MayorofLagos:


I have held my tongue on the issue of SW voting out Jonathan to favor Buhari. It is time to speak to this.

In the primaries of 2008, Obama against Clinton. Obama beat Clinton in Iowa, a traditionally white stthe and went on to clinch the Democrat Flag. Obama then also beat the Repblican McCain and won the Presidency election. Obama was not elected because Whites wanted anything from him or that they were slaves to Blacks or because they hated Clinton or McCain. These are all sentiments and illogical attributes.

The mainstay of American politics and economy is white race, just as the mainstay of Nigerian politics and economy is Yoruba.

America, due to the irresponsibility of Bush Administration, had become a liability and lost command of global influence. The custodians of the value system rebelled against their own and gave electoral power to a political rookie with an unfamiliar name and presence.

Here in Nigeria, the Yorubas, the mainstay of the economy and politics of this nation, the custodians of our value system, went through the cycle in three phases:

1 - they demanded and got justice on political mandate stolen from Abiola. In the election of 1999 it was either Falae or Obasanjo, both Yoruba.

2 - in aftermath of YarAdua's death, Hausas dominated the throne and frantically rushed to rob Jonathan his statutory right by replacing the elected YarAdua with an un elected replacement from their midst. Ijaws were powerless, Ibos were powerless to oppose North and restore justice for Jonathan. The Yorubas opposed the Hausas and made sure Jonathan succeded and took the oath of office.

3 - Under Jonathan Nigeria became a liability, lost all glory and the Presidency became an embarrassment around the globe. In 2015 Yorubas once more stepped in to restore our national value stock. They opposed the candidacy of Jonathan.

4 - Yorubas voted Buhari in because we needed to restore the political credibility of Nigeria and it was evident Jonathan was "clueless" on what to do to keep the economy and political knots of this country from coming loose. Buhari does ot have a clue either, but they shored him up with a steady hand, a Yorubaman, to keep the stake at equity level so the aspirations of the Northerner can be tempered when a time comes again, as it often does, for Yoruba to jump in and correct errors.


Those who grieve over Yoruba power at monopolizing political direction of the country are haters of our national value system. These people are intent on destroying Nigeria at all cost and anyone advocating a repair and restoration is an enemy of theirs.

Anambra11, you SE/SS had plenty opportunity and options to retain Jonathan in power if the outcome of the election was unsatisfactory to you but you did not use any of your options. Buhari is in power because Yoruba voted him but Jonathan is out because you cowards failed to live to your threats that if Jonathan is not President nobody else will and you will burn Nigeria down.

While Orubebe, a SS man was stopping the count in opposition of Buhari's victory Ibos were behind the scene whispering to Jonathan to pick up phone, congratulate Buhari and concede the election. It was a calculated move meant to buy them out of probe and jailtime.

While results were still coming in we see Madueke and Ogar, hijab on head, next morning at cock crow visiting Abdulsalami to be their tenor in Aso. These were die hard pro Jonathan, already dumped their useless principal and looking for favors with incoming administration. Obiano was visiting and congratulating Buhari before any politician from West had done so.

You Ibos need to cover your face in shame. Yorubas survive with or without Nigeria.

In fact, in closing we ought to ask, can Nigeria survive without Yorubaland?

See delusion o! Chai, surely too much oil is not good for the brain. This one has gone far.

Abagworo:


Pay little attention to the IPOB miscreants. They don't represent the view of Ndigbo but that of PDP aimed at disrupting Buhari's government.

And APC thugs are the true representatives of Ndiigbo? Lol! Come to any Igbo facebook group and talk the trash you speak here and watch the amount of backlash you will receive from Igbo youths. I guess all Igbo youths are IPOBians. Ana emenu.

Rossikk:
What a load of garbage. The question is not whether you will run a democracy or not, but what type of political system you will operate. You don't even know this, yet you're talking of a new country. This was the same mistake South Sudan made. They were so focused on secession that when they finally got it, they had no clue how to run the new country. Now the place is split among various warlords and factions, with thousands dead in fighting. I see the same warning signs in the Biafran movement - no forward planning, taking things for granted, and assuming everyone will be on board come the new republic. That is a recipe for disaster.

On the contrary, unlike South Sudan, Ndiigbo had once ran a nation successfully until some Blood suckers came knocking on our borders forcing unity.

Unlike South Sudan we have a vast pool of quality human resources unrivalled by any other indigenous African group.

Unlike the South Sudanese, we have never had full blown war amongst ourselves, even though the Western region was homogeneous, they burnt themselves first in Kiriji war of 1877-1893 and then later in operation Wetie, the North burnt with Tiv and Jos riots, whereas in the East, we had learnt the art of negotiation and living in relative Peace amongst ourselves, the East was the most peaceful region in pre colonial Nigeria and still the most peaceful in the Post colonial Nigeria.

We are by far highly advanced people.

Comparing Igboland with South Sudan is the highest level of ignorance and naivety on your part.

Rossikk:
Typically thoughtless, beer parlour response to the Biafra issue. You need a proper economic plan - a verifiably workable blueprint, or Biafra will be worse than South Sudan. Do you even discuss what political system you will operate? All I see are loud, bombastic declarations with zero planning.

Political systems? Igbos practised the purest form of democracy before the Greeks knew the meaning of that word. We need not discuss about the system of government we would use, that already is engrained in our genetic make up, it's in our DNA.

Good idea.
They should site it in Yoruba and Northern states. I estimate that two of such nuclear plants in SW, preferably Osun and Oyo, and three in the North, preferably Katsina,Sokoto and Jigawa, will generate enough electricity to power Nigeria for 24 hrs in the next 5 decades or more.

They can as well employ all the staff to work on the nuclear plants from SW and Northern states.

This is one good development. Kudos to Buhari.

Rossikk:
Really? Where will the money magically appear from after secession? You plan to use Niger Delta oil money? That will probably lead to a South Sudan situation.

"Proud Igbo nation", you seem to have missed this part of my post.

Where will the money come from? The same place the money used to build up Igboland after the ruins of the civil war came from, with the FG neglect. That's exactly where the money will be coming from.

And secondly, I wonder how where the money will be coming from is any of your business. You are not Igbo the last time I checked.

Quick question for you, where did the money this Igboman is using to build this structure in his rural community coming from? https://www.nairaland.com/3215044/see-what-coming-up-rural

juman:
There are no so good leaders in nigeria that can lead the country to that height.

I wonder why we dont have the kind of awolowo anymore.

What exactly did Awolowo achieve for western region, when available stats shows that the Western region lagged behind the East, up to the start of the civil war.

Rossikk:
How is it better planned and organized? Those are just empty words signifying nothing. The city needs to erect more impressive structures, tar more roads, build a CBD, or central business district, and start building intra-city rail links etc, before even thinking of comparing itself to Lagos.

Exactly what I'm saying.

The above will happen immediately we break the current demonic entanglements we have with people of Lagos colony and the North. And Enugu becomes a true capital city of a proud Igbo nation, as she was Destined to be.

There is nothing like middle belt. Only naive Igbos are deceived by such silly terminology, there is but one North, controlled by the Fulani- Hausa Islamic core. Danjuma, Gowon, IBB, are all supposed to be middle belters, but we know better.

You lots are one with the Hausa-Fulanis, and would end up in same nation with them, in the end.

yemobrown:
Government not able to pay salaries would be the final straw. Mass protest looming.

Which massess? Yoruba and Northern mass

Cos the last time I checked, Easterners have been protesting for long now, not for salaries but for something more meaningful.

No source?

What happened to the billions purportedly recovered from the "yam eaters" ?

Dangerous25:
If I had my way,I think Africa should have only 6 countries :Westland,Northland,Southland,Eastland,Midland,Madagascar. Each Country will have 1 capital and two mega cities each . The rest of the lands would be conserved as parks . tribes will be abolished.only relevant cultures from all tribes will be preserved . all backward cultures and traditions would be abolished .

Lol! Which cultures are irrelevant and backward? Yoruba and Hausa-Fulani cultures perhaps. If so I will subscribe to this your idea. In addition to the capital of the New Western African country being in Igboland or in Ibibio-Annang-Efik region. Any other arrangement other than this will not be accepted by Ndiigbo.

So, what do you think now?

YET AT HOME THEY ARE MUCH LESS IMPRESSIVE THAN THE IBO BUSINESSMAN AND BUREAUCRATS ONE MEETS IN OTHER PARTS OF NIGERIA. PERHAPS, LIKE THE OVERSEAS CHINESE, MUCH OF THE CREAM OF THE SOCIETY IS DRAINED OFF SEEKING CAREERS IN OTHER AREAS. IF SO, AGAIN PERHAPS LIKE THE CHINESE, MUCH OF THE HOPE FOR PRIVATE INVESTMENT AND PROGRESS WILL BE THE GRADUAL RETURN OF MONEY AND INDIVIDUALS TO THE HOMELAND TO PUSH DEVELOPMENT.

Very apt observation. This is the way forward for Ndiigbo.

The FG starved our region of needed funds for development, instead they concentrated the funds and development in Lagos and North, forcing our people to migrate in mass to those places, if we must access those funds. Those who were able to migrate and access those funds became the cream of the Igbo society today, and they owe it to Igboland, the obligation of re investing those accumulated wealth back to Igboland, to uplift the living standards and general well being of those who stayed back home to rebuild our homeland that was bombed to ruins by the Egyptian fighter jet the Nigerian military.


OP. Nice thread, I am saving this in my collections. Thanks.

Rossikk:
Stop exposing your bushness. Enugu is a tiny village compared to Lagos. It can't even boast of one single high rise building, and you have the nerve to compare it to Lagos. Are you mad? And what exactly is 'beautiful' about Enugu? It's just a place that's had it's major roads fixed...nothing more.

Go and sit down.

Enugu is a better planned and organized city than Lagos and can only grow better when Igboland breaks free of the Nigerian yoke.

I didn't study law or any of law related courses, yet I can attempt some of those questions.

Any of the students that studied his texts and class notes well should be able to answer those questions comfortably.

Slap1 nwanne, how you see this current mania harsh economic condition? No be to leave this colonial entity remain?

I think it is better to outsource our leadership positions to foreigners, give them targets and pay them.

Haha! Funny but true.

fratermathy:

These are Ibibio people. They are not in the Yoruba-Igbo nairaland childish e-war.

Ibibios, like most other ethnic minorities such as Urhobo, Isoko, Itsekiri, Ika, Efik, etc, are detribalised people. The larger groups in Nigeria suffer from delusions of grandeur hence their frequent altercations.

I guess even minorities like Okpe are detibalized too.

Ethnic nationalism is still a potent force. The period or era if government by intimidation, coercive integration is over. No one group again can own the nation. Those denied justice may have no interest in peace .

This is Obiozor justifying the movements of MASSOB and IPOB.

Is there no way we can get men like Obiozor in places of more influence.

Or is he just saying these things for saying sake. He looks like a determined man.

I like what I'm seeing. This Rochas Ohanaeze meeting might have just been saved by Obiozor intelligent speech.

What do Nigeria elites do? None of the Nigeria political groups was able to involve a unified national ideology that other people accepted. This is true. What we see is ethnic nationalism which is not about to disappear certainly not in Nigeria no matter how we may want to wish it away.

So apt. Ambassador Obiozor was indirectly telling the Igbo people, to embrace ethnic nationalism and not be naive to think we could succeed any other way.

He is also wise enough to know that Nigeria will never ever be a nation, but would rather remain a battle centre for battling ethnic groups and their elites for supremacy.

So much wisdom in this Obiozor man.

Can anyone here tell me more about him( Obiozor)?

Who is this Ambassador George Obiazor? Very intelligent fellow. I'm impressed.

logicab:
You see how foolish you are on military matters? When a plan is formed, you secure all high value persons. If they had the intention of making Awo Prime Minister, they would have secured and kept him in a safe place as a matter of priority. Reason: if the details of the plot were discovered, the priority of those countering the coup would be to capture Awolowo and that would jeopardize the entire plans of the coup. I have tried to explain, but if you still don't get it, don't bother.

Awo was already in a secured place, in the East.

You are the one not getting it. Awo's insubordination inspired the military coup. All insubordination to authority in Nigeria can be traced back to Awolowo and not Nzeogwu.

That remains a fact.

I know you didn't see that angle, when you opened this thread with intent to dump Nigerian problems on the Igbo? Well, like they say, look before you reap.

Awo and by extension Yorubas remain the genesis of political unrest and insubordination in Nigeria. They destroyed our democracy and replaced it with disarray, truly the problem of Nigeria, like Sanusi surmised.

Every Yoruba man dead or alive most make Peace with the above reality and stop dragging Ndiigbo into their mess to cover their sins.

Aquariann:


Wow, so while the Federal government declared full blown war against Biafra, Biafra saw it as a simple "police action"

And the Midwestern invasion was also carried out by Federal troops.

And I never knew Ore was in Biafra land then.. Nice info

Stop listening to what your parents told you and carry out your own research

Stop talking trash!
Bia*** never invaded Midwest as an offense, we invaded Midwest after Nigeria invaded Biafra at Gakem border in present Northern Cross River.

Yes, the Nigerian state declared full blown war against Biafra, when they invaded her borders.

logicab:
I should remember? According to who? If you are slightly above the level of mental retardation, you should wonder why a coup that was planned to make Awo the Prime Minister witnessed no action (to secure a prime target in military parlance) at the Calabar Prisons where Awo was locked up.

Lol! Never knew they needed to scheme on how to release Awo, after the coup,when they would have become the only powers that mattered then.

Either way, Awo greed for power disrupted West and gave us operation Wetie. Awo introduced the first known case of insubordination to constituted authority in Nigeria, he planned the first coup( hostile take over) in the history of Nigeria. His preceded those of Nzeogwu and co.

wizzakosh:
shut your dirty crab if you know nothing about nigeria.

Nkea esikwa ebee?

Hagm0nd:
Ademulegun killed by an IBO man, his statue stands in Ondo City roundabout,Fajuyi died protecting an IBO man,yet they call us cowards and traitors.
Time will tell

Another trash from Yoruba propaganda archives.

Not only was Fajuiyi in full support of Nzeogwu actions and the coup, he persistently shielded them from being punished by Ironsi by pleading on their behalf, when the coup failed .

He was top of the death list of the Northern military junta who he obstructed from getting justice they demanded by shielding "the boys".

He didn't die protecting anybody, he died for his role in the coup. The story of Fajuyi dying to protect Ironsi was made up by the Yoruba propaganda media, who needed to paint the picture of the coup as an "Igbo coup", but couldn't sell such, if they remained true to Fajuyi's role in the whole debacle.

logica:
Yes, but this was the FIRST ever coup in Nigeria which shaped ALL other events. Every other coup you can mention happened as a result of this misadventure by these rascals. That's the difference. The mess you are seeing in Nigeria today traces back to that night of January 1966. Also, honorable men do not kill pregnant women (especially in front of their daughter).

No! The very first coup was the civilian coup hatched by Awo led AG to topple Tafawa Balewa's government, that very act of treason and insubordination driven by Awo's lust for power, set the precedence for future coup planners in Nigeria, it also inspired Nzeogwu and co.

Remember that the plan of Nzeogwu and co was to install Awo as the numero uno.

I'd say that Awo greed for power and lust for lucre, first of all set the Western region on fire, and inspired the first military coup in Nigeria.

Awo is to be blamed. He( Awo) and by extension Yorubas are the genesis of everything wrong with Nigeria, Sanusi was right.

See afonjas taking igbo fired missiles for their master. We fire at bubu, you slavishly take the bullet and complain that we hate.

This is the big issue.

Yoruba see any insult or criticism on Buhari as insult/ Criticism on them, since they are mainly the brain driving this Buhari government.

In this scenario, it becomes impossible for an Igbo to objectively or sentimentally criticize Buhari's government, without a Yoruba jumping in to defend Buhari and in the process receiving the shots meant for Buhari.
Then he turns around and say: " Igbos hate Yorubas and not Buhari".

Udmaster:
pls if it is a joke, stop it. We don't want argument pls.
They are ikwerres and not Igbo..
We the IGBO NATION do not want them.
ikwerres they are.

Gbam!

Ikechukwu48:


Why are you calling IPOB for? None of those men up there pretending for be igbo leaders deserve any Igbo person's respect. Those fools give one rat ass about Igbo except if it's to full there pocket.

When did any of them do for the improvement of igboland? When PMB was busy sending army to shoot innocent women, men and children, wtf did they get? Did any of them even speak up to condemn PMB talkless of assisting the family of the victims.

Was it not Obiano that went and donated cows to fulani despite fulani were last month reported to have terrorized an Igbo community in Enugu. Do you think he gave a rat ass? Obviously, all he cared about was being in the good eyes of PMB.

Okorocha self is worst of them all. That mofo would throw every igbo under the buss if it means increasing his political career. The worst part of it all, the Nigga have single handily destroyed ohaneze.
Last I checked ohaneze has a leader, why did Okorocha all of a sudden decide to start leading ohaneze despite Noone asked him or voted for him

All those men there deserve ZERO respect from any Igbo. Why should anyone respect an elder that does not respect themselves or an elder who does nothing for his ppl?

If IPOB disrespect those disgrace...kudos to them cause I'm woth them on that.

@topic
Can someone tell that goat Okorocha to stop using ohaneze for his political ashawoing. Secondly last i checked the leader and person whose been working on Igbo unity for years now is Asagba, not that thing okorocha. Let him go sit his ass down before he f2ks up the hard work of Asagba.

Straight up. 1 million likes.

All current Igbo so called elites are selfish political jobbers or capitalist, who wouldn't blink an eye to betray the interest of entire Igbo people, to preserve their useless power and continue linning their pockets with filthy money.

Bunch of heartless beigns. Their days of relevance are numbered.

Same set of people that had failed the Igbo nation.

They are part of our past and not so good present, they are sure not going to usher us into the golden future we desire.

Final verdict: Waste of time gathering. Next!

AgentOfAllah:


One's tribe isn't the lowest decimal possible, one's individuality is, and that's the only thing that counts when accounting for individual achievements. It is risible, otherwise, for any group; tribe, club, country or religion to claim the achievements of individuals. The achievements of an individual are simply that individual's!

But the crime of an individual can be used to characterize all members of his ethnic group, the actions of few individuals can also be seen to reflect the will and stance of their people, that will explain why crimes with Igbo names as perpetrators are seen as an Igbo bashing fest in NL with hypocrites like you nowhere to be found in such threads, and a coup by few Igbo elements was seen as an Igbo coup and used as a justification to unleash near genocide on the Igbo people.

The funny thing is that people like you think themselves intelligent, where as their folly is bare for all to see.