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Politics / Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 4:08pm On Jul 12, 2016

xharder:

In order words, Awo's introduction of Free Universal Primary Education was for the western region to catch up with the eastern region...

It always amaze me that they always claim first in education yet, the first VC's of UI,UniLag and yabatech were all igbos.

When ever i reflect on chinua achebe's quote on why other nigerians despise the igbo, I can but just say this man was a prophet....

Everything he wrote that happened then is just beginning to repeat itself....talking about burst of energy by the igbos

Spot on.

The Yorubas only had an initial lead geographical advantage of being close to Lagos, the port of the Caucasian entry into the country offered them, but their early lead was obliterated by Ndiigbo even before independence, and has remained so since then.

Politics / Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 3:26pm On Jul 12, 2016

MayorofLagos:

We do not ask for people to be afraid of us, never has.

Fear mongering is an art peculiar with Ibo and is why you call everyone else coward because your political and social view is structured around physicallity.

What bothers the senses is why your physicality and fear mongering is not winning you victories but Yorubas, your so called cowards, are a bloc of political strength in Nigeria and are indeed the only Southern race that Northerners fear upsetting.

Let me tell you about Abiola... Aare Ona Kankanfo of Yorubaland!

Abiola was offered a deal. Did you know this?

Abiola was offered a deal to surrender his electoral mandate and victory in exchange for release from prison. He choosed death over surrender.

We do not label ourselves brave but we are going to let the world see if you are justified in calling us coward.

If Yoruba was the one agitating for Biafra we would have secured alliance and guarantees of security from neighbouring peoples and use it to advance a permanent and irreversible treaty from the Nigerian nation by this time. It is so because our resolve in advocating liberties and social advancement is credible and reliable and every ally know without doubt that in victory Yoruba carry others along. We are an asset!

The same cannot be said of Ibos. You are a liability and risk to associate or tie one's political future to. Insteadof looking for allies you are busy calling people cowards.

Lets see how far your bravery will carry and bring Biafra into fruition. Keep at it!

Abiola was offered nothing. The military had the powers to take away his mandate, they need not offer him any conditions, he was not in position to make conditions, power takes whatever it liked, the Northern junta had power,his Yoruba people sold him out for Money, the Igbo could care less. Abiola died a forgotten man, everybody moved on especially the Yorubas, after their street protests yielded no fruit, they sold out and went about their businesses

Yorubas are not feared by anyone, least of all the North, the caliphate sits on Ilorin and were probably going to subdue the rest of Yorubaland , if not for the coming of the colonials.
I have come to see that the average yorubaman is delusional.

Yorubas don't want fragmented Nigeria because they fear they can't make it alone, they dread facing their Northern masters alone in a post fragmented Nigeria.

The North keeps making threats of annexing the rest of Kwara should Nigeria fragment, I'm yet to see Yoruba reply to that.

Politically too, you are naive and are treacherous, and had not really fared better than Ndiigbo, over all, in Nigerian politics.

Politics / Re: Irony Of The Igbo Marginalization Theory. by Igboic: 10:33pm On Jul 11, 2016

People Igbophobia is envy induced. There is nothing Ndiigbo can do about it, except we stopped being who we are, ie a people in constant pursuit of success, who are never satisfied with whatever they have but instead believe they can get more, if they put more effort. cool

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Politics / Re: Irony Of The Igbo Marginalization Theory. by Igboic: 10:30pm On Jul 11, 2016

[b] "The Igbo philosophy seems to be “money maketh a man” and the Igbo man is prepared to sink to any level or scale the
highest mountain to get money…No job is too menial for the Igbo man
...I think there are two main reasons why “the Igbo are everywhere.”
First, as I have stated, the Igbos will go to any length in search of money and since they are more willing than any other
tribe to do any type of work, no matter how menial, they are ready and cheap source of labour everywhere.
Another reason for their migration… is terribly overpopulated by its 12 million or so inhabitants, so that the Igbo is
constantly on the move in serch of a place to stand in.
While I admire the Igbos for their energy and industry, their insatiable desire for money makes me sick.
…I have stated elsewhere in this narrative that the Igbo does not believe that any kindness can be gratuitous and would
doubt your sincerity if you were prepared to do any favour for him without demanding or accepting a consideration.
As a matter of fact the Igbo man makes the offer before he begins to ask for the help he seeks. This remarks should,
however, not be taken to mean that there are no honest people among them.
There certainly are, but by and large, the average Igbo man seeks gain from whatever he does.
…One common charge against the Igbo is that if you give them an inch they will demand (and quite often take) a mile.
An Igbo man in search of residential accommodation is prepared to pay rent for even your kitchen store. Within a week of
his moving in, about half a dozen “brothers” come to “visit” him; within a fortnight more of them arrive. He then pleads
with you to allow them temporary accommodation in the house but soon they have become permanent and taken every
available space in your house.
There would be nothing wrong with this if they remained as tenant. But the sad part of it is that before the owner knows
what is happening these tenants are dangling money before his eyes for the purchase of the house itself or the adjoining
land.
The money comes to hand quite easily either through concerted efforts or some wealthy “brothers” or the tribal union,
and overnight the owner of the house becomes a tenant on his own land.
In like manner, they have surreptitiously ousted “nationals” of the other regions from their market stalls, from their
shops, from the rubber plantations and other forms of human endeavour. One may say, it is the stupidity of the other
people.
Is it any wonder then that some other regions in the federation entertain fear of possible Igbo domination?
IT IS TO BE HOPED THAT THEY DO NOT BECOME LIKE THE JEWS , objects of castigation and contempt for their industry
and adventurous spirit".

Oba Akenzua, 1965. [/b]

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Politics / Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 9:58pm On Jul 11, 2016

shukuokukobambi:

No wahala. You can believe that if it makes you sleep well tonight

What you can't argue against is that Ekwueme formed PDP with some folks and OBJ strolled in to take the crown and seize the entire apparatus and hierarchy of the PDP, using and discarding 5 of your sons as Senate presidents

Then the same OBJ fvcked you and others very well for 8 years. When he got done, he snookered the north by foisting a sick Yaradua on the throne and attaching an ijaw instead of yeeboe to him

When that one lost his senses from your eternal sucking of his balls, OBJ and Tinubu joined forces to chase him away and bring in buhari

So you see, for 16 years, a Yoruba man OBJ and another Yoruba man, Tinubu have decided the political destiny of this useless contraption of a country. Till date, the man OBJ still gets consulted by his former subordinate, buhari in running the country

I think I could live with that in the current circumstances

I don't see how the above uplifted the living standard of a Yoruba commoner. *shrugs*

Same OBJ that was begging Atiku for second tenure? Hmm

Politics / Re: Irony Of The Igbo Marginalization Theory. by Igboic: 9:46pm On Jul 11, 2016

Lol! Na today?

Even the Oba of Bini was lamenting about Ndiigbo in 1965. Akintola was shedding tears in his "Yoruba ronu" speech. Saraduna was not spared in the Igbophobia too.

Igbo, a conundrum that will never be understood by Nigerians, which is the more reason we must do the needful, the same thing the Jews did by establishing Israel.

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Politics / Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 9:35pm On Jul 11, 2016

mercyville:

You could be right but by the 60s,Yoruba took over until date.

You can keep deceiving yourself.

Politics / Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 9:29pm On Jul 11, 2016

MayorofLagos:
@igboic,

Obj was never a member of PDP, much more to even be thrown up as its flag bearer. The Northerners were unsure of the unpredictable but volatile Yoruba politics and at a time when every strata of Yoruba social class is toeing the same line and their demand is consistent on the one issue of political robbery, there is only one solution to the problem and that is to pacify the anger and restore what Yoruba say was rightfully theirs.....the presidential throne!

Ekwueme was already the flag bearer of PDP and was to contest against Falae of AD.

The Ibos did not know this but the Northerners were wise to see that if PDP fielded a non-Yoruba against a Yoruba AD the entire West and elements in North Central who were opposed to core North would vote for Falae. Coming on the heels of their resentment Yorubas will assert complete autonomy on the political future of the country if Falae won. They needed an alternative, a counter to AD victory. Hence the emergence of Obasanjo. Ekwueme, a founding member of PDP was displaced to insert Obasanjo.

Obasanjo in turn played fast on North but instead of bringing Ibo to succeed YarAdua he elevated Ijaw above into political succession ahead of Ibo.

OBJ was a powerless man in prison. He had no powers whatsoever.

Yorubas were powerless as well, if they were not, Abiola wouldn't have died.

It's ridiculous for Yorubas to say that the North that refused to give up power to Yoruba after your useless protests in Lagos were quelled by the North and didn't do nada to change Abiola's fate, will now turn around to now give away power on a platter of gold to Yorubas because of Abiola? I mean what's the worst Yorubas could have done? Start another round of protests and be pacified with force all over again by the North.

Power concedes nothing without demand, Yorubas had and still do not have the wherewithal to demand power from the North, Abiola protests and it's futility proved that already.

OBJ emergence had nothing to do with Yorubas, OBJ is a pipette the Caucasian powers brought in to do their bidings that Abacha had started resisting.
The North had to step aside.

Yoruba alliance with Kwara cannot win a national election, the Igbo and core North will nullify that, Awo already tried that with UMBC and it failed.

Nobody is or was afraid of Yorubas, the whole country had seen your worst during Abiola protests, and it was easily contained.

Stop deluding yourselves.

Politics / Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 9:07pm On Jul 11, 2016

shukuokukobambi:

"If your eastern region was being fed from lagos, western region wasn't. I will not give you stats but when every idiot knows that Western Nigeria Television (WNTV) created by Awo with cocoa money was kolobied by the federal govt to become NTA, then you can use your tongue to count your teeth. Or can you tell us how much the FG used to send to Western region as allocation?

In any case, how does that stop you actualising your utopian dream country?

Paul Anber's essay "Modernization and Political Disintegration: Nigeria and the Ibos" published in the journal of Modern African Studies vol. 5, No 2 (Sep, 1967) 163-179. See pp 171-172 for excerpt:
" '' A system of Universal primary education was introduced in Eastern Nigeria in 1953, though the mission schools had already prospered in the Region long before then. Despite the fact that there was a requirement for limited contributory fees, education continued to be very much in demand. Even at the time when universal primary education was first introduced, the percentage of the population over seven years of age who were literate was higher in the East than in any other Region: East, 10.6 per cent; West 9.5 percent; North, 0.9 percent. Since 1959, the East has had more teachers and pupils than any other area of the country, with the heaviest emphasis on primary education. Figures for elementary and secondary education indicate that the approximate ratio of teachers to population in 1963 was 1 to every 1,500 in the East, 1 to every 2,500 in th West, and 1 for every 10,000 in the north. Other statistical data reveal how rapidly the standard of living rose among Ibos. The East had the most extensive hospital facilities in the country by 1965, the largest regional production of electricity in the country by 1954, and the greatest number of vehicle registrations by 1963. The economic orientation of the Ibos was also reflected through membership of credit associations:in 1963 the East had 68,220 individual members, the west 5,776, and the north a mere 2,407." ''... His source was the Annual Abstract of Statistics ( Federal Office of Statistics, Lagos, 1965)

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Politics / Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 8:57pm On Jul 11, 2016

[b] Real identity

"My mother is from Iseyin in Oyo State, while my father is from Ilorin in Kwara State. My great-great grandfather originated from Mali and I am talking about some 150 to 200 years ago. And they are Fulani and that is where we got our Fulani connection from. My great grandfather settled in Ilorin preaching the religion of Islam. A section of Ilorin came from Gwandu and they were religious, but my people came there as practising Muslims from Mali with their own Quran. In fact, the Emir and I used to joke that we had our own Quran and that nobody gave us Quran. My great-grandfather brought our own Quran to Ilorin from Mali to Agbaji where we settled. The Agbaji quarters is about 200 to 300 years old. Over the years, religious piety and devotion have led the prohibition of drumming (in whatever circumstance) in the area.

But because of our connection with the Southern people, a lot of Yoruba are always in Ilorin and so we speak the same language.

If you look at the Ilorin people, the real Ilorin people like Saraki for example, the culture and their ways share affinity with those of the far Northern Nigeria. That accounts for the difference you observe between us and, particularly, people of the South-West, despite the existence, now, of Yoruba as a common language. I leave people to say whatever they like about me. Some people even say I am from Ogun State and some even say I am from Togo but I know where I am from. Even, not long ago, I had a letter inviting me to join in the formation of a Mali-Fulani Organization and that I should be its chairman.

What about your ancestral lineage? People have accused you of bearing Alhaji Abubakar Saraki when you needed votes from the North, Chief Olusola Saraki when you needed votes from the South-West and in the South-East and South-South, you answered Dr. Sola Saraki. How do you reconcile these differences?

People are just reading political meanings to my actions. My Islamic name is Abubakar. When were growing up in Lagos in those days, unless you were a Christian or bore a native indigenous name, you couldn’t get a school. If I wanted to be admitted to a school, I had to drop Abubakar in favour of Sola as virtually all the schools belonged to Christian organizations. It is not correct that I was changing names to garner votes. Politicians invent those kinds of stories against their opponents. You, yourself, should know who you are". [/b]

Politics / Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 8:47pm On Jul 11, 2016

shukuokukobambi:

No mind the idiat. No be him fault. Na my Yoruba brothers wey dey lead am on the pathway of imaginary importance na him I dey blame.

You wan go, you wan go. Why can't Ekwueremadu move a motion on the floor of the Senate? Na to dey follow a Yoruba man called Saraki like slave e dey get power

Is Saraki now a Yoruba man, after how his family boasted about their Fulani ancestors from Mali and how they were able to subjugate the Yoruba in Ilorin? grin

What type of attache by force be this

Politics / Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 8:45pm On Jul 11, 2016

I came here because the OP is one of my brothers who has no idea how progressive and self sustaining our western region was under Awo and others.

Lol. Where are the stats to prove the above, other than propaganda and repetition of the same propaganda. grin

Sane Yorubas commoners in the know are scared of Nigeria's disintegratio and are strongly anti secession, you think you know more than them? undecided

Politics / Re: The Western Nigeria, Nigerians And The Truth by Igboic: 8:20pm On Jul 11, 2016

MayorofLagos:
Ibos finally realized there is no way forward on Biafra and secession and now making a desperate move to position one nigeria as the only way forward.

Im happy that you recovered and gained your senses back. Again, hundreds of Ibo lives wasted in the unecessary and ill-planned protest but it is better to surrender than keep protesting and loosing lives. It is best to first have a solid plan with resolve to see it to the end than to start a uprising with a half life cycle. In the area of political organization and social liberties there are still lessons for Ibos to learn.

Ibos, disguised as Yorubas and Hausas, are on social media spreading message of unity for Nigeria and advocating ressons why Nigeria is incomplete without Ibos. If this is not an act of cowardness I don't know what other thing to call it.

Some years not long ago after a Yoruba won the election and was disenfranchised, the Yorubas, who the Ibos fondly refer to as cowards, staged an uprising that crippled the government and forced other ethnic groups to vacate Yorubaland in fear. The agitation was from top to bottom of the Yoruba ethnicity. Those infront leading the street protests were senior lawyers, politicians, retired military officers, academicians, diplomats, and so on....behind them were the ordinary citizens. Political militias were targeting military, police and goverment assets and terrorizing the institution and unity of Nigeria. As government arrested and put our leaders in jail their position was quickly filled by new set of leaders. Our Obas spoke with one voice and endorsed the actions of their subjects and demanded the government correct the injustice if they want peace. UK and US got involved as mediators and finally Federal Government caved in. For the first time in its history Nigeria conceeded the Presidential election to candidates from one ethnic race. It had not been done before and never since. Why? Planning, resolve and truth!

We don't call it an act of bravery, no doubt it is not an act cowardice....but we call it an act of political wisdom!

Those who call themselves brave and others cowards, at every turn of their political aspirations they meet roadblocks and the first thing they do is retreat. What kind of bravery is in this people's gene?

When are you Yoruboids ever going to get tired of this your propaganda?
It's really pathetic. How exactly did your street protests yield any result?

Was Abiola not still jailed, rotted and wasted in jail, sold out by Yoruba Obas and political class for love of money.

Obj emergence had nothing to do with Abiola, Obj had always been a beloved of the Caucasian pupette masters, he was the perfect puppet.

When Murtala Muhammad was removed by the Caucasian powers, Obj was brought in to stabilize things and give them( Caucasian powers) the things Murtala resisted and refused giving them.

When Abacha started proving difficult and had to be removed, the Caucasian masters once again turned back to their Favourite puppete Obj.

AD was a Yoruba party, of course it was always going to throw up a Yoruba candidate.

OBJ emergence had nothing to do with Yorubas, it had more to do with international powers at play, the Northen powers had no choice but to tag along, the election was a mere formality.

OBJ emergence had nothing to do with Yorubas, and at no time did the entire country surrender the presidential seat to the Yorubas.

It's time you snapped out of your delusions.

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Politics / Re: 1st Owerri Semi Tunnel/Interchange Nearing Completion (photos) by Igboic: 10:20am On Jul 10, 2016

HopeAtHand:
The problem with Igboland is that their red soil has a way of making even the most beautiful project look ugly.

Looks like a modified version of the EBEANO tunnel in Enugu.

How exactly does red soil make beautiful projects look ugly? What exactly are you on about?

Politics / Re: [photos] Ibadan Is More Developed Than Any Igbo State by Igboic: 10:03am On Jul 10, 2016

I don't understand why Yoruboids are masturbating here, haven't we all been here before and all accepted that SW is a big slum when compared to SE.

It would appear the Yoruboids are suffering from group memory loss.

Allow me to remind you lots again: https://www.nairaland.com/2576371/eastern-neighbourhoods-streets-made

Politics / Re: [photos] Ibadan Is More Developed Than Any Igbo State by Igboic: 9:57am On Jul 10, 2016

aressssa:
[s][/s]

Next time and before posting the brown roof pics, just know that we are proud of our brown roofs and they remain a rich reflection of our history and we are not embarrassed or ashamed especially considering the fact that your forefathers were living in thatched roof mud houses and caves back then...

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Below is Ibadan back in 1968.

Do you mind showing us what your villages in SE look like back in 1968?

No, you can not because it was nothing but caves....

https://www.nairaland.com/2497740/vintage-pictures-onitsha-anambra-before

Politics / Re: Policeman Tries To Snatch Biafran Flag In Enugu Stadium (Photos) by Igboic: 6:59pm On Jul 09, 2016

Elebiju:
you're trying to ignore the obvious now my good friend, if we have have a review of our constitution to support such autonomy then there will be no problem.

I thought we already did. Until someone said that they were made for archives, and not to be passed into law

Politics / Re: Policeman Tries To Snatch Biafran Flag In Enugu Stadium (Photos) by Igboic: 6:40pm On Jul 09, 2016

OlanreJohnson:
We yorubas hate oduduwa republic. We believe that the fulanis can lead us to the promise land the way they lead their cows to green grasses. One nigeria. God punish oduduwa!

Politics / Re: Policeman Tries To Snatch Biafran Flag In Enugu Stadium (Photos) by Igboic: 6:37pm On Jul 09, 2016

Omoluabi16:
This country ceased to exist in 1970. they better accept it.. their prime minister be cooling in Kuje for 9 months..despite sll their threats and noise nothing has happened.Now the cowards are jumping on the NDA bandwagon. I dey enjoy their facebook page. it is an amusing forum where you see illiterates exhibiting ignorance and propaganda.

Oga go and sit down and learn to embrace your Arewa brothers. Ndiigbo reject you. No be by force.

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Politics / Re: Policeman Tries To Snatch Biafran Flag In Enugu Stadium (Photos) by Igboic: 6:30pm On Jul 09, 2016

Elebiju:
He is not an ignoramus my good friend, Spain is practising unitary paliamentary and constitutional monarchy system of Government and is composed of 17 autonomous communities and two autonomous cities with varying degrees of autonomy thanks to its Constitution, which nevertheless explicitly states the indivisible unity of the Spanish nation. Catalonia is an autonomous community of the Kingdom of Spain, It is politically designated as a nationality by its Statute of Autonomy.
Nigeria is practising the federal system and our Constitution doesn't allow for such autonomy. I'm not against biafra but violence won't bring about its actualization I really think the igbos have some traitors amongst them. Cc igboid phockphockman

In the end, Spain is averse to Catalonia flying their flags, but nevertheless, were civil enough to allow justice reign.
If it were in Nigeria, Buhari will frustrate court proceedings, and will be applauded by enemies of Ndiigbo hiding behind fake patriotism.

This has nothing to do with the system of government Spain practices, which again is a result of Spain yielding to the demand of groups for autonomy, but a reflection of how far advanced the Spainish are as a people.

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Politics / Re: Policeman Tries To Snatch Biafran Flag In Enugu Stadium (Photos) by Igboic: 6:21pm On Jul 09, 2016

SirToby:

That is a blatant lie. They Don't. FIFA is strongly against such. The last one the did in champions league final against Juventus they were fined for it.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/may/20/barcelona-catalan-flags-copa-del-rey-sevilla

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