ima1:

Okay I am tired of all these naija men always demanding respect, you yourselves don't respect your women, you don't appreciate all we do to support your a** but you keep demanding respect like its your damn rite, if your mama no name you respect don't be demanding it, respect comes with understanding, it is earned not one person demanding it from the other,

If you act like men and do what a man needs to do, then we'll have no reason to disrespect you, but when you act like you are the ish, it don't work for us, cuz your not the best thing since sliced bread.

Moreover when you are with a white woman you turn woman rapa, like the white woman would put up with ya excreta, you are here complaining about black woman.

Shame on you.

You know this back-talking of men is NOT what is tolerated back home.

My father has told me the stories.

Naija men do not allow any type of disrespect/back-talk nonsense from any woman of there community.

we DEMAND respect.

and the SAME should be over here.

You think it's bad here-- we need to take you to some Arabic countries and show you what they do to women if they so much as even unruly LOOK THEM BOLDLY in the FACE.

Now let's try this AGAIN with no interference from the MODS this time, shall we??  . 'Kay?

Travelista:

You can't be serious about this. Black women (in the US) are constantly being attacked from all angles and sadly, the people leading the pack are Black men.

You name for me ONE single Black-Female-HATE movement made by black males in this country besides the coon WHITE-ZIONIST-VIACOM-OWNED BET silly-azz rappers, in which Black women are their number 1 customers and supporters of BTW.

can you name one?

Hmmmm?

Yes-- take your time. I KNOW you dont have an answer for me.

however-- I can count SEVERAL movies, books, films, and television talk-shows of the BLACK WOMAN's TREASON on her man for the past 50 YEARS!!!!!

Waiting to Exhale, The color Purple, How Stella got Her groove back, alice Walker's whole book set, Every book Terry Mcmillan came out with, every book Michelle Wallace came out with, Kola boof, almost ALL the Madea movies, the Maury Povich Show, and the most RECENT movie-- PRECIOUS.

black woman we can go ON and ON with the amount of hate movies and books your BLACK FEMINIST movement and authors has assaulted the black man with for going on over HALF a century, with the majority of black women LAUDING and PRAISING each and all of this anti-MAN filth.

You all should be the LASt to talk about disrespect with the way you all TURNED on the black man after post-civil rights era-- via late 1970's.

Travelista:
Black women in this country stand by the Black man to the point that SHE becomes the loser in the grand scheme of things.

^^^Feminist rubbish.

the black woman was the LOSER yet it was the BLACK MAN who PRIMARILY was the one who was LYNCHED, BEATEN and DRAGGED, while Massa had you up in the kitchen being his mammy watching over his kids and cooking him biscuits for dinner.

LOL!

Right black woman-- you being in Massa's comfortable house, with access to all his food was just SOmuch more miserable compared to that NO-GOOD black men getting their focal places cut off outside, burned alive and hung from a rope. Yeah.

even today-- due to school gender-bias the black male is behind the black woman in the career and education field. but yet-- BLACK WOMEN supposedly are the ones that are losing. Psssh, Keep lying to yourself.

Travelista:
SHE bears the children; SHE raises them alone;

the question IS WHY does she RAISE them alone, huh?

In the majority of these OOW cases are the two married??

NO-- THEY'RE NOT!

so essentially you are trying to make a case for what is a LOOSE WOMAN having SEX and getting impregnated OUTSIDE of MARRIAGE, is that correct?

Black Woman have falled down so low that they are now trying to make cases for the lowest element of women that there is in this world. (Whores, Sluts, Non-for-Profit Prsotitutes). It's a little something called RESPONSIBILITY. No other culture in the world outside of black america has pity for and condones the activity of loose women-- and in certain parts of the world your lucky if you dont get excommunicated from the rest of the mass, if not ALL-OUT STONINGS or full-out EXECUTION!

Bottomline--If you as a woman decide to have intimacy with EVERY man in the village-- and what's worst not even PROTECT yourself, you deserve all the pain and punishment those consequences give you.

Travelista:
SHE is expected to be a ride-or-die chick for a man that doesn't even care enough to handle his responsibilities towards his family.

His "family" is the one he marries and decides to commit for a LIFE-time.

Thus the difference between when a man chooses a woman to be his "mistress" or his "wife". You women STILL havent learned this?
this happens in ALL cultures.

How about you give us the statistics of black men who are IN marriage and give us the ACTUAL batting average, of men whom actually PLEDGE to want a family.

Oh-- but of course-- you WONT! because then that would trash almost absolutely every statement that you've made in this thread.

Travelista:
I have yet to meet any other group that is so quick to take a dump on their women the way the Black man is; many take pride in telling people how worthless Black women are and that stuff hurts because you wonder how men can talk about a group that includes their mothers, aunts and sisters.

Ummm,  NEWFLASH!

White american guys trash the hell out of white american WOMEN ALL The time via internet and radio!:
http://www.nomarriage.com/
http://www.eebell.net/mwc/nomaam.htm
http://theghostnation.com/forums/
http://www.the-niceguy.com/
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/tempe-az/TU5LD2QKTPPQ23NH6
http://theghostnation.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjqAb6KqkxE
http://russianwomen./2006/08/25/why-american-and-western-women-are-turning-ugly/
http://ihatewhitewomen..com/2009/10/american-women-cant-compete-with.html
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2202591131&topic=11899


black women please wake up out of the dreams that you have about these other races being perfect and living harmonious lives with each other. almost ALL the comments I have made in this thread have been said PLUS WORST by men of other races on Western women. Your self-hatred and inferiority complex really shows with alot of you black women of today.

Travelista:
victimhood in a man is so unbecoming.

Ummm and you think the constant whining, crying and complaining on t.v. and the internet 24/7 from "single lonely" bitter black women isnt?

queeneve:
There are ONE MAN TO EVER 10 WOMEN IN THE WORLD.  Common sense, THERE ARE GOING TO BE ALOT OF SINGLE WOMEN NO MATTER WHAT COLOR THEY ARE.  Now, if you are going to compare USA WITH OTHER COUNTRIES, you do not have a chance in hell, NO OFFENSE to the ladies from other countries. 

According to black women, they are single in numbers that rival and beat out other races.

BLACK WOMEN are the ones who keep perpetuating this "single black woman" campaign and not ANYONE else. well, except for the white media whom profits off of constnatly uses them to feed off of their insecurities.

SMH.

I commend you on making the statement in saying that BLACK WOMEN arent alone when it comes to not finding mates-- EVERY HUMAN BEING goes through this crap. now if only we can convince 99.99% of the OTHER black females who keep chanting about how THAT isnt the case and the black woman's scenario is just SOOOO DIFFERENT.

black women are the only group who keep this argument going in circles-- no one else cares.

queeneve:
There may be alot of single women, not just BLACK WOMEN, single women period in USA, but catch this, WOMEN IN USA HAVE MORE FREEDOM AND RIGHTS THAN ANY women around the world.  If a woman is single in USA, it is not a death sentence because guess what 75 PERCENT OF THE WOMEN IN USA ARE THE BREADWINNER OF THE FAMILY.  EMBARRASSING!  SINGLE OR NOT, IF A WOMAN DOES NOT GET MARRIED, SHE STILL LIVE AS GOOD AS MARRIED WMEN IN USA WITH A WORKING HUSBAND.   

EXACTLY!

Man-- I think I'm starting to fall in love with you.

now if only we could make a MILLION  more YOU to drown out the rest of them.

queeneve:
NOW SINCE WE COMPARING, women in other unindustralized countries, MUST DEPEND ON MARRIAGE TO SURVIVE ESPECIALLY WHEN THE PARENT HAVE 23 KIDS TO TAKE CARE OF, they SELLS THEIR DAUGHTER OFF AS SOON SHE HIT PUBERTY, which worse, A MARRIED HO OR SINGLE WOMAN WITH FREEDOM?

PEOPLE WANT TO LOOK AT AMERICAN SINGLE WOMEN AS IF THEY ARE DISEASED, BUT THEY ARE LIVING WELL WITHOUT A MAN, WHILE THE MARRIED HOES DROOLING WITH JEALOUSY, PLEASE AND THE WOMEN WHO HAVE KIDS ARE SINGLE MADE THAT DECISION TO KEEP THEM, YOU DON'T THINK THESE NIGERIAN GIRLS NOT HAVING ABORTION?  THINK AGAIN BUSTER!

AT LEAST AMERICAN WOMEN AREN'T COWARD TO ABANDON THEIR KIDS AFTER A SORRY ASSED MAN SAY I QUIT, LET SEE IF YOU CAN SURVIVE ON YOUR OWN WITHOUT HELP IN YOUR COUNTRY,

you make a LOT of good points that I agree with. but I am NOT about bashing women and people from other --in your words-- "less industrialized countries".

we MUST understand them and sympathize with them-- no matter the harsh words they so carelessly dish out at us. We are better than that.

I understand a LOT of other blacks LOVE picking on black americans out of an inferiority complex that THEY secretly have and hold about themselves and the conditions they come from. But our people (black americans) got to be better than that and move past silly nationalistic tribal shouting matches.

THIS is precisely the reason why Africa is in the shape it's in TODAY!
People within the very same DXMN COUNTRIES cant even stand each other.

Totally shattered with No concept of unity at all in the african continent.  We cant even UNIFY to just build NATIONALISTIC ECONOMIC SUCCESSES, forget our socialization and how we view each other.

now-- this is not Africa-bashing because I am African myself-- Nigerian. born of proud African parents. but I can also see other BLACK POV also.

luap:

Yeah, I can see your point. Most black women are disrespectful to black men for some reason. I married a black woman, and you have to teach them that your intolerable to disrespect. Just do not put up with it. You have to be willing to leave them and walk away.

Some black woman like to compete against black men. It is strange. Black man has to go to work all day, compete with whites, then come home and compete again. The heck with that, just leave them and go get a white women or teach your black women that your not going to put up with that B.S.

The sad truth is that black women in the usa have the highest single rate. Ever wonder why? They have this im tough attitude. Black men. go get the women that makes u happy, white, black, asian, indian, what ever. Black women, change your attitude or continue being single or unwed mothers.

THATs what I'M sayin'!

I never thought when I made this thread that I would actually hear a REAL brother stand up and speak on this issue, like you have so eloquently did.

Great post, my friend!

I see the mods are deleting my posts now.

should have known SMH.

FL Gators:



2. Look at black men taking credit for where credit is not due. Are you God? Did you create black women?

the black man IS GOD.

No one came before him.

The black woman used to be one-- before her egotism and feminist movement dragged both her and her man down to the grave!

MRbrownJAY:

So you admit that you're gay and you DONT like girls,, right?

good to know.

go get laid, or in your case-- POUNDED. lol

Travelista:

You can't be serious about this. Black women (in the US) are constantly being attacked from all angles and sadly, the people leading the pack are Black men. Black women in this country stand by the Black man to the point that SHE becomes the loser in the grand scheme of things. SHE bears the children; SHE raises them alone; SHE is expected to be a ride-or-die chick for a man that doesn't even care enough to handle his responsibilities towards his family. In essence, the Black woman is expected to do the work of a Black man while handling the chores of the Black woman all without gaining ANYTHING from the association.

I have yet to meet any other group that is so quick to take a dump on their women the way the Black man is; many take pride in telling people how worthless Black women are and that stuff hurts because you wonder how men can talk about a group that includes their mothers, aunts and sisters. Mind you, I don't go for the guys that think that way but they're so vocal with their garbage that other groups start to repeat the rhetoric and you have Black women wondering why their men think so little of them.

You talk about respect: what makes you think you deserve it? You want respect as a Black man? Then earn it because it's not automatic. Show me that you're a man that handles his business and I will treat you like the king that you portray yourself to be (remember, you also have to treat your woman the same way!); but, if you're the type to lay on the couch all day, scratching your musty balls as I work. . .you're looking for a lifetime of trouble because it's going to be war. You sound like you're afraid of the strength that is the Black woman; honestly, few are probably checking for you in the first place, so it's no loss to womankind either way. If you want submission, I'm sure you can find it but don't make it seem as if Black men are under attack; victimhood in a man is so unbecoming.

more black feminist rubbish.

i'll address this headache of a post tomorrow.

MRbrownJAY:

what the hell are you on about?! first you write about black women disrespect and now you come here talking about this mambo jambo about "every" men living their lives to impress women?!

It isnt mambo jumob, iddiot.

It's a verifiable FACT.

Men in most cultures grow up with the tendencies of trying to earn the respect and admiration of the local women around them.

This is whats called HETEROSEXUAL BEHAVIOR.

Cant help it if you arent hip to it because you are more interested in manliness than the rest of us are womanliness, gay-boy.

MRbrownJAY:
ok let me rephrase so you can understand like a 5yr old what i am talking about:
i am a very secure person, i know how worthy i am, dont need anyone's approval for that . no man should ever change or pretend to be someone he is not just to"impress" women.

BULL-SHXT!

You mean to tell me that if there were absolutely NO women around on the Earth today, you-- supposedly a heterosexual man-- wouldnt be living your life COMPLETELY different than from what you are doing now?

I can tell you one thing-- I sure as hell would BE!

People change, conform and modify their standards ALL the time just be accepted in social circles. Human beings do this because we are SOCIAL ANIMALS/MAMMALS and are very survival alot of times depends on it!

It is a matter of life and death in many animal cases that their social standings and behaviors is what determines who wakes up the next morning or not-- especially true of that of humans.

the whole, "dont change for anyone, just be yourself" utterly banal cliche full of empty feel-good rhetoric is just that! Not one single person on this Earth truly lives life the way the TRULY would, because of the very HARD and very REAL social consequences attached to such. Like I said to you before, get off the bull.

Oh,  btw-- when speaking to me in terms of REALISM in the world, just know that I live in REALITY, not some idealistic magically-made up ill-concocted, philosphical fantasy ramblings on how I THINK life should be.

MRbrownJAY:
now,if you go around pretending to be who you are NOT to impress women THEN you have no ground to stand on when they disrespect your sorry a$$ afterwards for being a phoney!
BE YOURSELF, BE PROUD OF WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER (however little as it may be)

See, reply up above, fantasy-man. this aint how it happens in the real world.

MRbrownJAY:
of course it is!!!! any woman has the right to demand/decide whatever she feels is the standards/requirements in her men.

You're both off-subject and off-course, lame-boy.

I suggest you go back up and re-read what this thread is supposed to be about.

MRbrownJAY:
if black women feel that they have been mistreated etc by black men then they have the right to not want to deal with blackmen any longer.

No one here ever argued against that.

In fact-- black women who wish to date out, I've always advocate they do, so that we dont have to put up with their bull-shxt anymore. You've got the wrong man pegged here, bozo.

MRbrownJAY:
if you know that you are one of the good brothas out there then you shouldnt worry and shake in your boots because the sistas will either find it out or you will be happier with other races anyway. or are you saying that good responsible black men dont find good women?!  

See reply above.

not one of my posts reeked an IOTA of insecurity about black women dating outside of their race or not "finding me as a good responsible brotha."

Like I said to you before, BOY-- both off-topic and OFF-COURSE with what I actually provided via verbatim my OWN words.

You must be a FEMALE, reacting so emotionally to a post that really had nothing to do with you, nor suffice your insane amount of PMS-ing that you ae doing here. Must be that time of the month for a lot of you feminized homosexual black males.

MRbrownJAY:
to each their own but then accept that brothas before you have "fukced the market up" and you will have to show that you aint one of the so called deadbeats out there if you want to be "respected". either way you cant blame sistas for having a negative representation of us and vice versa!

Ohhhh? Pulling out the "deadbeat black male "card, eh? You must be more of a female more than I originally thought you were.

You've done nothing but regurgitate the same old tired Oprah Winfrey-rehearsed one-liners black women have been fabricating about for half a centruy.

Here's a CLUE, slowpoke in case you havent figured it out YET! DEAD-BEAT MALES cant exist if the DEADBEAT women didnt have their legs open BEFORE MARRIAGE to START WITH. Loose women create LOOSE MEN and then eht ineavitable-- LOOSE CHILDREN who then carry on a VICIOUS CIRCLE of LOOSE CULTURE.

Unless all these women are being forcebly despoiled, you nor the Oprah winfrey magazines, channels, and oratory you methodically subscribe to dont have a leg to stand on.

MRbrownJAY:
YET would care about their judgment if you dated someone who cares to give you the respect that you required?! you are confused to say the least!

What REAL PRO-BLACK BLACK man wouldnt care or listen to the judgement/advice of his sisters.

this is what black women CLAIM to be complaiing about today. That brothers arent opening their ears to them.

and you advocate we keep going along the same route that black women have claimed they tire of us?

You truly MUST be a sell-out.

I couldn't help but notice when I mentioned the fact that i could ONLY be with a black woman, that THIS is the way you responded:

MRbrownJAY:
to each their own

LOL-- SMH. pathetic.

you make black men look bad. that's if you ARE one

Okay, slowpoke.


I tried to hold back, but it seems as if we're just going to have to take it there,

FL Gators:

Nope. Just a black woman tired of black men with the mentality that they automatically deserve respect where it is not due.

What have you men done to deserve respect from black women?

we have built the african civilization that you females so arrogantly take for granted for-- along with all the luxuries you enjoy today.

If it werent for the black man, many of you would not be here!

We, as men in general are sick of the attitude we recieve from ungrateful women of today!

Women have forgotten their place.

We all need to adopt Arab Islam and have THEM show you and other disrespectful, man-hating, boisterous, uncouth, and ill-mannered women what REAL servitude, honor and RESPECT to their men is all about!

MRbrownJAY:

@poster
i dont give a damn what black women (or white/yellow or green ones) think of me as a black man. i know what i think of myself and i dont need the approbation of any women. if you require their approval to consider yourself a great guy then you have failed.

You dont know what you are talking about.

every man regardless of color or nationality always lived his life to impress his woman.

This is no different with black men and black women.

Almost 60% of a man's actions can be dictated by what his woman finds attractive in him.

get off the bull.

MRbrownJAY:
if a woman doesnt like what you have to offer, as a person, then move on to the next. blaming all black women just because you hang out or are attracted to trash isnt solving the problem.

if you now hate black women that much then go for whites/yellow/green ones and be done with the black "ungrateful" ones. . . . . . . . as simple as that.

This isnt about what a woman has to offer me. this is about discussing an issue that has become a major one in the western hemisphere involving black communities WORLDWIDE.

I am a PRO-BLACK-- which means I dot date nor am I attracted to women of other races-- hence the reason why I am asking questions on BLACK WOMEN here, because I only seek to be in a relationship with only black women.

besides-- even If I did want to date out, all black women would do is deem me a sell-out, just like they do so many U.K. and american black males of today when they see them with white women.

Thus presenting the equation with a DOUBLE DILEMMA for a lot of black males seeking to alleviate their pain with the opposite sex.

THIS is the harsh reality-- I cant help it if you want to walk around acting impervious to it.

FL Gators:

Plz shut up. Mtcheeeew, didirin

You must be a disgruntled black woman

Hello, brothers.

I know that this is a subject many black women and expecially the black feminist lebians dont want us to talk about.

But I just had to bring this subject up.

now, many times-- we hear from black women that it's the black men that constantly disrespect them-- but very rarely do we ever hear from the men's side.

so I come to you brothas with a question.

Let's be real-- do black Men feel disrespected by black women alot of times?

I sure as hell know that I do!

It's almost as if women have totally forgotten their PLACE!

I have a lot of African, UK, caribbean, and american friends-- and they all ABHOR Western black and WHITE women. all of my African friends REFUSE to date any African woman from the states, because they claim that when they come over they forget their place as women, and pick up the disrespectful behavior towards men that Western culture teaches them is cute.

Just three days ago-- I had two black women assault me on a thread talking about self-hatred. and when I tried to shame them in their activities they laughed at me.

So Naija brothers-- I come to you today. What do you feel about the average black woman and her disrespect of the black man today?

thanks!

ohisng:

Why do Naija females not respect the men? They act like they are the men in the r/ship and dont want the stress of being accountable to a person. My opinion? If you do not want to be accountable to anyone, get the heck out of the r/ship!

Good god-- you've noticed this too, my good man?

I was just tellin' this one sista named "iice" on here about that.

black women-- the world over are losing their minds and the respect of their men along with it, it seems!