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Dating And Meet-up Zone / Re: Which Nairalander Will Take Out On A Date For Just One Day? by Jesus2: 4:21pm On Aug 03, 2011
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Satellite TV Technology / Re: 2 In 1 Setup,ew3 And Sirius 4 On 1 Dish by Jesus2: 9:53am On Jul 08, 2011
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Phones / Pls Help With Manual Configuration For Glo Mobile Browsing On Pnone And Pc by Jesus2: 2:27pm On Jun 30, 2011
Pls i need the manual internet configuration for mobile browser with glo. Glo said my PDA is not supported and i need to browse. Pls help with the latest APN, IP Port pls. for pay as u go.

I just recharged my line and needs to browse. Pls help with the settings

Thanks
Phones / Re: Phone Engineers On Nairaland Willing To Assist You - Part II by Jesus2: 2:17pm On Jun 30, 2011
Pls i need the manual internet configuration for mobile browser with glo. Glo said my PDA is not supported and i need to browse. Pls help with the latest APN, IP Port pls. for pay as u go
Romance / Re: Nl Women Exposed! by Jesus2: 9:06pm On Jun 20, 2011
Or may be becos there are very few real,honest and matured guys that wouldnt cause them any harm
Religion / Re: Celestial Church of Christ: Your Experience And Opinion by Jesus2: 7:14pm On May 18, 2010
lagerwhenindoubt:

I tried Cele once (when I was lost, dejected and forsaken) and the experience was thrilling (at least for the Night Vigil). the guy on the drums was no ordinary human being. cos no ordinary human can beat the drums the way he did. I was literally thrown into a trance by the beats and for almost 5+ hours i was on another spiritual plane. by dawn all my worries were gone, my purpose and confidence returned and all the rest is history.

grin

Cele and cherubim owns african music. Cele made me a multi instrumentalist and a good singer in the few years i spent there

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Religion / Re: Are Women To Submit To Their Husbands In Everything? by Jesus2: 5:16pm On May 18, 2010
toba:

Let me join here by saying in the case of marriage it shouldn't be master/servant relationship. because if we go by the post of jesus2 above in a situation of 60/40 or 55/45 power/control sharing deal, that will be almost equal to parleys/buddies like u say u re with your woman

Thks toba. I will say the servant here doesnt mean same thing as a normal steward or domestic staff. Its like an elder to younger brother thing from same blood. where the younger will serve and show respect to the elder
Religion / Re: Are Women To Submit To Their Husbands In Everything? by Jesus2: 4:45pm On May 18, 2010
Mudley313:

so, is the husband suppose to be a willing servant to the marriage as well? or only the wife? cos where i'm from, a healthy relationship is suppose to be 50/50
Healthy relationship lets say 60/40 isnt bad. U be guy now. u no sey if u give our women plenty chance they can misuse it at times. Its better we have a slight edge. After all its a mans world and they themselves agree with us

Mudley313:

and yea, i understand exactly what a willing servant is. if u read my last post you'd understand what i was driving at. the ancients buy a slave n owns the slaves family n all dat bs, and with time, if the slave is in a position to be freed but is happy wit the masters treatment, he can decide to become a willing servant instead of opting for freedom. dis usually is cos he/she is already used to slave mentality n co-dependen[/b]t of the master. so there's virtually no difference between a willing servant n a willing slave, [b]the only similarity is they're not forced to take such a role. if thats what u are lookin for in a wife, no qualms. dem full village

If based on mentality well thats relative to the slave with hs/her delusion of equating hs/herself to slave for willingness.

I presume u meant difference as against similarity u have in ur post. I agree with the difference in that a servant should not be forced while a slave may be force
Mudley313:
"submitting" to their husbands is the type of term derived from ancient jewish n arab writings like the bible n koran, due to the fact that they were written by ANCIENT mysoginist men who viewed themselves superior to women. but the stone ages way of thinking have far been outpaced by more advanced n humane way of reasoning. so, should the husband also submit to the wife? or its just the wife?

The answer i gave to the first part should do for this part as well. To have it fair 60/40 or 55/45 is still good.
NB husband to take the larger portion of control.


Hope we can agree that a wife can be a willing servant as against a willing slave?
Religion / Re: If U Play Insturment Let Meet by Jesus2: 3:01pm On May 18, 2010
JeSoul:



Wow, all? I salute you oh.
Yes i do minus talking drum and trumpet.

I made a request to u on pastor chris' thread up there
Religion / Re: Are Women To Submit To Their Husbands In Everything? by Jesus2: 1:22pm On May 18, 2010
Mudley313:

well, in your book of ancient jewish myths, which condones [size=14pt]SLAVERY[/size], n written by stone aged mysoginist jewish men, it is not wrong

The [size=16pt]slave[/size] was encouraged to become a "proselyte" (doulos) (Exodus 12:44). He might be set free (Exodus 21:3; Exodus 21:20-21; Exodus 21:26-27). The law guarded his life and limbs. If a married man became a bondman, his rights to his wife were respected, she going out with him after six years' service. If as single he accepted a wife from his master, and she bore him children, she and they remained the master's, and he alone went out, unless from love to his master and his wife and children he preferred staying (Exodus 21:6); then the master bored his ear (the member symbolizing willing obedience, as the phrase "give ear" implies) with an awl, and he served for ever, i.e. until Jubilee year (Leviticus 25:10; Deuteronomy 15:17); type of the Father's [size=16pt]willing Servant[/size] for man's sake (compare Isaiah 50:5; Psalm 40:6-8; Hebrews 10:5; Philemon 2:7).
What has the above got to do with the issue of a wife being a willing servant?

When will u atheist start reasoning like normally people without being sarcastic in ur opinion about all issues pertaining to the bible

Lets view it from a non biblical angle. The topic is 'Are Women To Submit To Their Husbands In Everything'? and the subject deduced is 'willing servant'
Is their any similarity between a willing servant and a slave?

Lets see what the dic and not the bible says about our subject

willing :cheerfully consenting or ready: a willing worker. disposed or consenting; inclined: willing to go along. done, given, borne, used, etc., with cheerful readiness.



Servant :One who expresses submission, recognizance, or debt to another: your obedient servant. a person in the service of another.



Now willing+servant=a person cheerfully consenting or ready to be in the service of another
Is there any thing that seems like force there or Slavery?

A wife must be a willing servant and not a forceful servant. I work in an organisation. Im a willing servant serving my boss as well as our clients cheerfully and not by force and i get paid my monthly due as and when due. Will u now say im a slave? In everything in life, one person must be on top while another must be a little lower.

Take for instance NL, jesoul and ur fellow athesit manmustwac are servants to us and to seun. In they are willing servant cos no one is forcing them to be moderators.

Lets liken it to husband and wife. A wife should be willing to serve her husband and the children as well as others around her.

Being a willing servant isnt slavery mr mudley.


Mudley313:

and there's a clear difference between a public servant n a servant to another (a master; in this case a husband) whether willing or unwilling

Marriam-Webster
Main Entry: ser·vant
Pronunciation: \ˈsər-vənt\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from present participle of servir
Date: 13th century
: one that serves others <a public servant>; especially : one that performs duties about the person or home of a master or personal employer




My guy, the key word here is servant. the definition i got from dictionary.com is this a person employed by the government is a public servant..

The persons role is to serve the employer the government and the populace. Servant and slavery are not same.

Late yar adua was a public servant and a master like the likes of IBB, Abacha and co but he emphasised on the word 'servant leader' i.e im a leader and will lead by serving. In the context all the definitions that can be ascribed to a servant could also have been assigned to yar adua. yet hes not anyones slave.



In summary, that a wife is advised to be a willing servant doesn't mean shes a slave according to the definition of a willing servant.
Religion / Re: Loveworld Christian Network Is Da Bomb by Jesus2: 12:02am On May 18, 2010
@ogajim, ur signature is nice. I hope the fool will not die of thirst,becos fishes do die of thirst in water loool
Religion / Re: Are Women To Submit To Their Husbands In Everything? by Jesus2: 11:55pm On May 17, 2010
Mudley313:

n your mental state dont need no examination for it is already certified unstable for expecting to have a willing servant for a wife just becos some ancient stone aged jewish men said so in some book of fairy tales
urs needs to be examined for plagiarism on my post.
BTW whats the meaning of a willing servant? Is it wrong for anyone to be one?
Religion / Re: Is The Christian God And Muslim God The Same ?/ What Is The Name Of God ? by Jesus2: 11:49pm On May 17, 2010
Confirmed @Airdig.
There are many gods created by men,yet one sumpreme being in the person of eternal God is single out.Whom all other gods still reference.
Religion / Re: Are Women To Submit To Their Husbands In Everything? by Jesus2: 11:39pm On May 17, 2010
Mudley313:

willing servants? u still living in the stone age or sumthin?
your mental state needs to be examined for quoting me out of context.When Late Yar adua offered himself as a 'servant' leader, was he 'living in the stone age or sumthin'?
Religion / Re: Are Women To Submit To Their Husbands In Everything? by Jesus2: 10:45pm On May 17, 2010
As willing servant makes sense&not forcefully
Religion / Re: Nuclearboy . . . On Abraham, Genesis 14 by Jesus2: 10:38pm On May 17, 2010
Nuclearboy are asserting that no one can beat viaro on NL?
i will throw him to the atheist&theists like david,noetic,deepsight etc
Religion / Re: If U Play Insturment Let Meet by Jesus2: 10:28pm On May 17, 2010
Go for u. All instrumentalists must have idea on all genres of music
Religion / Re: If U Play Insturment Let Meet by Jesus2: 8:59pm On May 17, 2010
What if i tell u i play all with the exception of talking drum&trumpet
Celebrities / Re: War:chioma Chukwuka Vs Muma Gee by Jesus2: 8:42pm On May 17, 2010
bawomolo:

curses are not real. who gave chioma the power to hand out curses anyway?
who is she? Elisha or Elijah?
do want to start? What concern Elijah&Elisha in this matter?
Politics / Re: Should Jonathan Contest In 2011? by Jesus2: 8:27pm On May 17, 2010
The northerners ruled for most part of Nigerias 50yrs&nothing to show. ObJ spent 8yrs, we can now use gsm to post on NL, 3yrs by yar adua nothing. Now Northerners again? No way
Nairaland / General / Re: This Lagos! 10-year-olds Smoke Hemp In Ajegunle by Jesus2: 8:19pm On May 17, 2010
Police sef they smoke am
Properties / Re: 2(nos) 2bedroom Flats To Let At Ramat Ogudu Gra by Jesus2: 7:42pm On May 17, 2010
lizzyangelt:

I need a neat 3 bedroom flat in Ogudu
3 bedroom flat now available in ramat. Inside the same compound with the 2bedrooms. Just built in march 2010. Rent asking N1m but negotiable. Call me if interested 07029170205.
Religion / Re: Is Man Truly In The Image Of God? by Jesus2: 4:01pm On May 17, 2010
Kay 17:

Originally, the theist who asserts the existence of God or gods, naturally bears the burden of proof. The atheist who doubts, has as proof, the lack of evidence on the part of the theist on the existence of God or gods. The wide variation of God or gods according to cultures and geographical locations, is indicative of the creation by man.Because you are afflicted with the certitude of the existence of God, makes you no different from a Mormon or Muslim or Hindu, or Buddhist, who are as equally convinced as you are.

When proving a case in the law court both the despondent and the respondent are to present thier cases different without relying on the others' claims as evidence

Kay 17:

Maybe the fewer gods the better, One is okay, NONE is far better!

Yea there are many gods created by man, but the God almight is complete different and stands alone and unique as one
Religion / Re: Is Man Truly In The Image Of God? by Jesus2: 3:56pm On May 17, 2010
mazaje:

Men created all the Gods including your God who the ancient jews created and named Yahweh. . . . .

U may as well prove ur case that God was created by man with substantial evidences
Nairaland / General / Please Unban the user "Jesus" by Jesus2: 3:53pm On May 17, 2010
What is wrong with the NL administrators that delights in using their powers any how when they are not God almighty?

I didnt post any spam yet u made an assumption and went ahead to relieve me of my posting privileges its absolutely un acceptable please un ban jesus now else

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