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Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 5:11pm On Jul 20, 2014
Weah96:

So you ask a question, and if I don't know the answer, then my ignorance is sufficient proof that you have the answer? Is it not possible that we both don't know?
u nd whu? Hahahaaa.....i wil giv u d answer. I knw u wil pretend ova dis nd stil doubt in ur heart buh wen u go to bed in ur secrete, speak to d air u breath, get som concentration, break ur heart down nd neva harden it, wid faith, ask God to realy show u d truth as He grants u knwledge wisdom nd understandin. Afterwards read the book of John nd try analysing other verses in d new testamen. u might hv read b4, buh probably not wid a gud heart nd clear mind to seek d truth. If u wudnt mind, i can giv u verses to help u. Hebrews 4:12, 1john 1:9, and hebrews 11:6. And without faith it is impossible
to please him, for whoever
would draw near to God must
believe that he exists and that he
rewards those who seek him.''

seek to know God bro. Nd ye wil find him.
2corinthians 4:3-4. And even if our gospel is veiled, it
is veiled only to those who are
perishing. In their case the god
of this world has blinded the
minds of the unbelievers, to keep
them from seeing the light of the
gospel of the glory of Christ, who
is the image of God.
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 4:03pm On Jul 20, 2014
Weah96:

What is?
i tot u hv consulted all d atheist fr knoledge nd u r comin to answer my simple question. Dnt say is not because i'm a christian. If u dnt hv proof hw mankind came about, neva claim God is not real. because He is d creator. He is greatful nd jxt to forgiv u dou. Tnx
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 7:33am On Jul 20, 2014
c'est vraiment exact et logique.
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 6:54am On Jul 20, 2014
Weah96:

Non sequitur.
quod verissime dicitur.n
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 6:42am On Jul 20, 2014
Weah96:

Non sequitur.
funny! Dats tot block of ur empty head. It realy folows wat we ar sayin ok. Hv u forgoten u guys said u hv a reason to disbliv God. If u dnt hv proof, u beta shut up, take d bible nd learn sense.(sory fr dat). I wil giv u time to ask ur scientists or parents or anybody who hv deceived u up to dis xtent which u r goin to realise ur ignorance, dat they shud help u trace wher they came frm, nd if they r dull enough to tell me its an ape? Jx ask dem wer the ape came frm. Truely, they wil also hv tot block which clearly shows dat God is real nd is the creator of the universe in which d atheist finds himself. He realy created us for eternal life buh out of sin, death came our way. God has given us anoda oportunity thru Christ who stil strengthens us on earth both in our rise nd fall. Nd now as it is apointed onto man to die,judgement awaits fr justification dat u ar holy enough to b wid God. Seek the truth nd d truth shall set u free ye hypocrite! God stil luvs u
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 11:12pm On Jul 19, 2014
i am glad you know that

dont be glad because it not frm me bro. I quoted frm the book of true divine knowledge(Bible) nd tnd God u knw dat too. Seek the truth frm the bible odawise u wil proof to me wher ur great great grandfather nd deir father's came frm. God is the creator of evrytin b4 science built on it. It doesnt make science superior nd because of dat dnt be blind enough to forget God. Tnx
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 10:00pm On Jul 19, 2014
fubbyy: I use bb curve 3, can it do it?
i knw of one atheist who repented nd came to knw d reality of God after he came to realise nature is beyon the understandin of som of his profesors who claim God is not der. He realy testified hw they wer determine to tempt the faith of christian wid deir science so dat they go astray frm God's path. Buh truely God being his witnes, God has realy opened His eye fr true knowlegde wen he started to doubt wat his profesors says nd started to read d bible fr proof. Truely he found it fr the truth he said is hidden frm those who think they ar wise nd knws evrytin. We christians ar aware of the works of atheist thru d devil to wis souls fr satan. If u doubt God, prove wher actualy mankind came frm if u dnt bliv the almighty creatd.
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 6:38am On Jul 19, 2014
frank317:
I read what you posted, and i didnt get the answer to 'if God kept him alive, was God it that killed the millions that have died? my understanding may be poor though, but explain first.



i am glad you know that


matter of time what will happen?



in order words your good lord decides who to kill and who to keep alive? pls answer this. that means ur god is responsible for the millions that die every day.



that must be childish of him. he must be jobless to have this sort of project at hand. and when the whole world finds out that he has disgraced me, what will happen. tell your God to watch his over inflated ego... it might lead to self destruction



i'd rather be a fool that be delusioned.



blah blah blah blah blah
“Go to Hell!” Have you ever said
those words and meant it?
We imagine Hell to be an awful
place and wonder how a loving
God could invent it.
Maybe the rationale for hell is
hard to see
because of the dysfunction
inside of me.
Science tells me the universe has
laws,
and every effect is there because
of a cause.
It makes sense that if its true on
the physical level
moral and spiritual choices also
have results that are inevitable.
Want to spend eternity locked in
a room with Adolph Hitler,
Joseph Stalin,
Ossama Bin Laden, Saddam
Husen and Charles Manson?
Guess what? God doesn’t, And
neither do I.
What makes us think that a
person’s values change just
because they die.
Put the damned in heaven and in
time they’ll turn it into hell.
If you have any doubts, look at
the earth we live on. I’d say we’re
doing that here quite well.
Jesus told about a cruel, self-
centered rich man who died and
got hell as his sentence.
His heart was just as hard when
he got there; totally devoid of
repentance.
He expected God to send the
beggar who sat in sickness
outside his door, on whom he
had no compassion
He expected God to command
the beggar to leave the bliss of
heaven to suffer in hell as his
servant.
The man had no change of heart,
but continued on in his totally
self-centered and wicked
reaction.
My response is, “Of all the nerve!
You got what you deserve.”
Now, we rationalize and say,
“I’m not as wicked as they!”
But project a straight line beyond
the choices you make to the
directions they take.
Are the restraints on your life’s
immoral directions really from
within or from without?
Where is your real love? What are
the real desires of your heart?
God is Love and takes no
pleasure in damning people.
But God is also good and just, so
Hell was prepared for the devil
and the rest of those who love
evil.
Hell is not a necessary
consequence.
Hell is for those who refuse
repentance.
It is not an irreversible destiny.
God said through Jesus, “Come,
rest in me.”
He undid the consequence of my
rebellion and dysfunction when
he paid the price on the tree.
He brought forgiveness and the
promise of new life and heaven
for you and me.
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 12:27pm On Jul 18, 2014
i realy pity ur level of understandin or i wil jx gues u didnt read wat i posted. Its apointed unto man to die nd after death judgement. U wil die nd i must die buh it all just about a matter of time.buh the gud Lord decides on whom to stay nd whom to leave. I guess god decided dat u live so dat u wil be disgraced one day nd den His Holy name be magnified to d whole world. It takes knowledge to understand the works of God.The fool hath said in his heart,
There is no God. They are
corrupt, they have done
abominable works; There is none
that doeth good. Ouch! U r not diferent frm the devil dat tested Christ. Surely by deir fruits, ye shal knw dem
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 11:23am On Jul 18, 2014
frank317:


you really believe that i will turn to an animal because i dont believe in your God? am i going to be the first or have people you know been turning to animals?
i am worried that you may be suffering from a mental disorder(no insult intended). i just hope you are ok.

sorry... i am not afraid of hell becasue it does not exist. pitying me is a waste of time bro.
and just as it is apointed fr man to die and after death, judgement. He will wipe away every tear
from their eyes, and death shall
be no more, neither shall there
be mourning, nor crying, nor
pain anymore, for the former
things have passed away.” the earth is not ur place of stay. If u repent, God wil rescue u out of dis wicked world full of sins.each nd everyone wil die nd afterwards wat hapens matters most. Dont b scared bro because u r dangerous nd God knws u. Ur master is already in hell waitin fr u if u dnt repent. God hv mercy on u
Religion / Re: The Population Of Hell by joezakdeen(m): 11:07am On Jul 18, 2014
dats wat 1corinthians 4;5 teaches u? Neva judge for u are not God. Tnx
Religion / Re: The Population Of Hell by joezakdeen(m): 11:02am On Jul 18, 2014
frosbel: How many people are going to hell? Specifically, the 'Christian' Hell. 'Christianity' is the most important religion, and the only one, other than Islam, that claims non-adherents will go to Hell. So let's take a look, because it's going to be crowded down there.

Muslims: 1.4 billion
Non-religious and atheists: 960 million to 1 billion
Hindus: 900 million
Buddhists: 400 million to 600 million
Other religions (Chinese traditional, animism, deism, Shinto, etc): 800 million
Sikhs, Jews, Baha'is: 48 million

So that's a total of about 4.5 billion to 4.7 billion people. But wait, there's more. Because the total "Christian" population of 2.1 billion includes many millions of people who do not actually live a Christian life (and are therefore going to Hell). The population of Hell should rise. Consider the following:

Only roughly 30% of Christians globally attend church regularly. In Brazil, for example, 80% of the population is "Catholic" but only 36% attend church regularly! Similarly, in the US, 78% call themselves Christian, but only around 40% attend church regularly--at best (Religious Tolerance, Nation Master).

In many supposedly "Christian" countries, female use of contraceptives exceeds 60, 70 or 80%. This includes many countries in Latin America. In the US, studies have indicated that almost all Americans have had sex outside of marriage.

Most Christian sects think they are the "true" religion and other denominations are heresy. They can't all be right, which means that somebody is going to hell!

In many countries, petty theft, tax evasion and money laundering are a way of life--in direct violation of the 8th and 9th Commandments. To say nothing of the countless millions who work on the weekend, violating the 4th Commandment (to keep the "Sabbath" ).

These offenses are not necessarily punishable by eternal damnation (that depends on particular beliefs). But they speak to an overall lack of adherence to 'Christian' doctrine. There are millions of people who call themselves 'Christian', but who nonetheless do very un-Christian things, including borrowing spiritual guidance from Buddhism, new age religions, Taoism or other non-Christian sources. It seems reasonable to add another billion or so to the damned total.

So out of 6.8 billion human beings, a staggering 5.6 billion are going to Hell. That is 82% of all humanity! If we factor in the many hundreds of millions of people who have lived before our time, we can easily get up to 90 or 95% of the entire human species that has ever lived.

'Christianity' would seem to be an extraordinarily dark belief system, to claim that almost all of our fellow humans who have ever lived are destined for an eternity of suffering because they don't happen to agree with their "Lord." Is that the work of a just and loving "God"?

Personally, ( edited ) if there is a God, it sure as hell isn't the 'Christian' god. That guy's a psycho.

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Disclaimer : At this stage of my finite understanding, I am not referring to ETERNAL DEATH but ETERNAL TORMENT. So please take note of this when reviewing and discussing the article - show some integrity by abiding to this statement.

Also the 'Christian' god being referred to is not Yahweh but the god of the 'Christians'.
'Christianity' is also put in invited comas as it is not the real Christianity based on biblical Truths .

Therefore do not pronounce
judgment before the time, before
the Lord comes, who will bring
to light the things now hidden in
darkness and will disclose the
purposes of the heart. Then each
one will receive his
commendation from God.
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 10:47am On Jul 18, 2014
frank317:

how then does God keep someone alive? remember you said the God kept the OP alive despite his rebellious life? now you contradict you self by saying that 'the strenght is not in them, they allow satan take control of their life.'

mnnn... the poster was rebellious was the strength of God in him? if not why did you say God kept him alive. please i need answers from you.
y cant u think nd realise u hv answered urself?he being alive is a gift God has given everyone even if u sin. Dat strength is fr everyone to live includin u as u type even to make mockery of Him. Dats hw merciful He is. Buh if the strength wer a blessing, it wudnt b der after intended sin.i pray dat the Almighty God opens ur eyes for easy identification of the truth. Trust me, there is a satan in u! Sory fr dat.
Religion / Re: The Quran Or The Bible,which Is God's Word? by joezakdeen(m): 10:34am On Jul 18, 2014
deezzle: None...both are work of some simpletons...Quran from an unlettered simpleton. Both are inaccurate exaggerations of local events (Noah flood and Egyptian plague) written by people who never knew about dinosaurs, microbiology, genetics and astronomy.

If those are the words of any god, then that god must be an idiot and deserves no worship but utter condemnation.
we hv eva had ur type of
being in d past so no new. D
lives of nebuchardnezzer,
pharoah, amin, major nuhuli
who out of deir smal
knowledge nd wealth tot d
world was for dem. At d end,
som turned into animals nd
thereof. I'm imagining the
type of animal u wil turn wen
the anger of the Almighty
coms on u. Bliv it or not, God
is God nd there's non like Him.
pity urself ccos u hv life dou
buh u wil neva xperience
eternal life if u dont repent
out of ur arogance. God wil
bring u down dat day. Neva
mind cos there wil b indeed
knashing of teeth wid no
rescue. Buh i pray dat God
forgivs u because He is a
merciful God since u r
speaking out of ignorance.
Sory fr dat. God always reveals the truth.
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 10:21am On Jul 18, 2014
frank317:

do you realize that the bolded means that God killed all the people that have died in the past?
we hv eva had ur type of being in d past so no new. D lives of nebuchardnezzer, pharoah, amin, major nuhuli who out of deir smal knowledge nd wealth tot d world was for dem. At d end, som turned into animals nd thereof. I'm imagining the type of animal u wil turn wen the anger of the Almighty coms on u. Bliv it or not, God is God nd there's non like Him. pity urself ccos u hv life dou buh u wil neva xperience eternal life if u dont repent out of ur arogance. God wil bring u down dat day. Neva mind cos there wil b indeed knashing of teeth wid no rescue. Buh i pray dat God forgivs u because He is a merciful God since u r speaking out of ignorance. Sory fr dat.
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 10:32pm On Jul 17, 2014
brownideye: op.....you are lying

who owns your life?
god owes the life of everyone including u. He manipulates u nd everyone including al d worthy kings dat has past buh He is faithful, just, loving nd merciful to forgiv u even if u make mockery of Him now. U hv ur wil here on earth, u might not ecieve ur punishment here. Buh rememba wen He coms to judge the world, u wil hv no xcuse to mock again. God realy hears each nd every true believers prayer embarked wid faith. Neva mind because u r not wider dan God. Trust me there is a satan in u!
Politics / Re: Should Boko Haram Be Stopped By Force Or With Negotiation. by joezakdeen(m): 6:54pm On Jul 17, 2014
boko haram is a satanic group formed to kill. Not only force can stop dem bro buh also prayer. Buh i tink if d negotiation fails, den force must folow. God hv mercy.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Quranic Statements Under Review by joezakdeen(m): 6:49pm On Jul 17, 2014
Muhamed which muslims said
was revealed in d bible came
to kill? Omg! The holy spirit
deliver by way of healin,
comfortin, nd spiritual rhelm
manipulation. Which of dis
features can muhamed
depict? Mercy! They shud com
nd feel the power of the holy. Hw can muhamed perform a miracle? Yet u bliv Him as d holy spirit. Respect the true power of God, comparin Him to a mere muhamed(man like me) mercy!
Religion / Re: The Quran Or The Bible,which Is God's Word? by joezakdeen(m): 6:36pm On Jul 17, 2014
the autenticity of the bible revealed in quran. Hahahaa...."And if thou wert in doubt as to
what We have revealed unto
thee, then ask those who have
been reading the book from
before thee..." (Surah 10, Yunus,
verse 94). God luv u. Neva b blind. Fr the blind can neva lead the blind. They will all fall in a pit as hypocrites.
Religion / Re: The Quran Or The Bible,which Is God's Word? by joezakdeen(m): 6:32pm On Jul 17, 2014
do u muslims knw the quran needs prove the bible b4 man can bliv it acordin to the quran? Buh unfortunately dere's non!
Religion / Re: Pastor David Oyedepo Plc by joezakdeen(m): 6:17pm On Jul 17, 2014
tbaba1234:

I am certain that you do not know the Quran, hadith or arabic more than me so learn a little bit about what it actually says first. You are not qualified to talk about some issues.

That is off topic. This article was not written by me, take what is beneficial and leave the rest.
pls i der any lie in wat i pasted? Luv the truth nd hate ur hypocricy bro. God luv u. U wasted ur tym nd pasted somones blessed life out of envy. Buh fr truth, u hate.
''by their fruits,ye shall knw dem'' pity!
Islam for Muslims / Re: Quranic Statements Under Review by joezakdeen(m): 6:06pm On Jul 17, 2014
dats y the bible clearly sayz ''lack of knowledge, my pple perish. They wil continue to kill demselves til they finish. ''he who pulls a knive dies by it. Muhamed killed, boko haram is continuing. Jesus wil neva pull a knife or cutlass wid the childish idea to fight fr God. We ar proud of him. His is worthy!
Muhamed which muslims said was revealed in d bible came to kill? Omg! The holy spirit deliver by way of healin, comfortin, nd spiritual rhelm manipulation. Which of dis features can muhamed depict? Mercy! They shud com nd feel the power of the holy spirit.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Quranic Statements Under Review by joezakdeen(m): 6:02pm On Jul 17, 2014
dats y the bible clearly sayz ''lack of knowledge, my pple perish. They wil continue to kill demselves til they finish. ''he who pulls a knive dies by it. Muhamed killed, boko haram is continuing. Jesus wil neva pull a knife or cutlass wid the childish idea to fight fr God. We ar proud of him. His is worthy!
Religion / Re: The Population Of Hell by joezakdeen(m): 5:22pm On Jul 17, 2014
frosbel: Hello does not exist, use your brains friends and read the bible constructively and without the clouded lenses of institutionalised Christianity which is also mystery Babylon.
hahahhaaa....tnk God u now hv tot block. Hell awaits u if u dont repent. God luv u bro. So b a luver of truth nd not hypocricy.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Quranic Statements Under Review by joezakdeen(m): 5:08pm On Jul 17, 2014
What kind of book is the Injil?
The Quran makes the following
statements about the Injil:
And in their footsteps, We
sent 'Iesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary) confirming
the Taurat (Torah) that had
come before him, and We
gave him the Injeel
(Gospel), in which was
guidance and light and
confirmation of the Taurat
(Torah) that had come
before it, a guidance and an
admonition for Al-Muttaqun
(the pious - see V.2:2). S.
5:46 Al-Hilali & Khan; cf. S.
57:27
He [Jesus] said, "Lo, I am
God's servant; God has
given me the Book, and
made me a Prophet." S.
19:30 Arberry
It is He Who has sent down
the Book (the Qur'an) to you
(Muhammad SAW) with
truth, confirming what
came before it. And he sent
down the Taurat (Torah)
and the Injeel (Gospel). S.
3:3 Al-Hilali & Khan
Sura 5:46 states that the Injil
was given to Jesus by Allah. Sura
19:30 and 3:3 then clarify that
the Injil is a book just as the
Qur'an and the Torah are books
that were sent down by Allah.
The Qur'an also contains a
second set of statements
regarding the Injil:
Let the people of the Injeel
(Gospel) judge by what Allah
has revealed therein. ... S.
5:47 Al-Hilali & Khan
Say: "People of the Book,
you do not stand on
anything, until you perform
the Torah and the Gospel
[Injil], and what was sent
down to you from your
Lord." ... S. 5:68 Arberry
Those who follow the
messenger, the Prophet
who can neither read nor
write, whom they will find
described in the Torah and
the Gospel [Injil] (which
are) with them. S. 7:157
Pickthall
[Say (O Muhammad SAW)]
"Shall I seek a judge other
than Allah while it is He Who
has sent down unto you the
Book (The Qur'an),
explained in detail." Those
unto whom We gave the
Scripture [the Taurat (Torah)
and the Injeel (Gospel)]
know that it is revealed
from your Lord in truth. So
be not you of those who
doubt. S. 6:114 Al-Hilali &
Khan
These verses make clear that the
Injil is the book of the Christians,
the book that is with them and
which they believe in. The
author of the Qur'an even
admonishes the Christians to
fully obey (the Torah and) the
Injil that they have.
The Contradiction
However, here is the problem:
when we look at the New
Testament, the book which is
the Scripture of the Christians,
we see that it nowhere makes
the claim that it is a book that
was "given to Jesus". On the
contrary, the New Testament
consists of several books that
were written by followers of
Jesus (under the inspiration of
the Holy Spirit) AFTER the
ascension of Jesus.
Therefore, the Injil can EITHER be
a book given to Jesus, OR it can
be the book that the Christians
hold as they Holy Scriptures, but
it cannot be both. Muhammad
apparently assumed that the
Scripture of the Christians (and
Jews) would be very similar to
the Qur'an, the book which he
thought he received from Allah.
However, Muhammad was
clearly ignorant of the matter.
The essential nature of the
Qur'an and the Bible are very
different. A book "given to
Jesus" in a similar way as
Muhammad claims to have
received the Qur'an does not
exist and Christians have never
claimed that such a book existed
at any time. This claim of S. 5:46
is merely a wrong idea that
sprang from the mind of
Muhammad.
Had the author of the Qur'an
made only statements like those
found in S. 5:46 and 19:30, it
might have been an option for
Muslims to claim that the Injil of
Jesus was simply lost. Jesus
indeed received such a book
but, somehow, it disappeared.
Muslims could have said that the
NT clearly is something very
different from the Injil as
defined by the Qur'an, and could
have concluded that therefore
they do not believe in the
Christian New Testament since
the Qur'an does not endorse it.
However, the second set of
statements above prevents this
explanation. The Qur'an
identifies the Injil as the
Scripture of the Christians. Thus,
since the Injil is the book of the
Christians, the Qur'an makes a
blatantly wrong claim about the
basic nature of the Injil. It
neither is nor ever was a book
given to Jesus.
The Source?
How could this error arise in the
mind of Muhammad? He may
have heard statements like in
the first verse of the Gospel
according to Mark:
The beginning of the gospel
of Jesus Christ, ...
and mistakenly thought that this
meant the same as "the Torah of
Moses" i.e. a revelation given to a
prophet in form of a book.
However, reading the context
shows that it means "this is the
beginning of the Gospel ABOUT
Jesus Christ"; the Gospel is the
message telling us about the life
and teaching of Jesus, written
up by his followers, not a book
given to Jesus himself.
Muhammad projected his own
experience of receiving
revelation of a book (the Qur'an)
on Jesus and simply assumed
that the book OF Jesus that was
held sacred by his followers
must also have been a book
given TO Jesus (like the sacred
book of the Muslims is the book
given TO Muhammad). However,
Muhammad was wrong about
this, and this mistake exposes
the Qur'an as a forgery. The
Qur'an is not divine revelation
but a collection of mistaken
assumptions by its author.
But the Bible is corrupted!
In most cases when the Qur'an
contradicts the Bible, Muslims
shout, "but the Bible is
corrupted", as if that is the
answer and solution to every
such problem.
There are at least two reasons
why this response will not solve
the problem.
First, the Qur'an never claims
that the Injil is corrupted. There
are certain accusations against
the Jews, but no charge that the
Christians corrupted their
Scripture. The section, What the
Qur'an says about the Bible,
investigates this matter closely
and shows that the Qur'an does
not support the Muslim claim of
Bible corruption.
Second, even if there had been
some corruption of certain
passages, small changes
resulting in certain shifts of
meaning, this cannot possibly
explain the above contradiction
in the Qur'an. Here we have a
fundamental difference in the
nature of the book which
cannot be accounted for either
with gradual changes or with a
sudden change.
For illustration: The Qur'an is
(allegedly) a book that was "sent
down" from Allah to Muhammad.
It was (supposedly) not written
by Muhammad but given to him
by Allah. On the other hand, the
Hadith are memories of the
companions and followers of
Muhammad, formulated and
written up by Muslims long after
the death of Muhammad. They
are their recollection of what
Muhammad said and did.
Would it be possible for anyone
to change the Qur'an (the book
given to Muhammad) into a
collection of hadiths without the
Muslim community realizing that
their scripture had changed into
something entirely different?
Without doubt, the Muslim
answer will be a resounding NO.
But if that is impossible for the
Muslim book and community,
why would any Muslim think
that this would have been
possible in the Christian
community? Originally, the
Christians had a "book given to
Jesus" but one day they woke up
and their scripture had turned
into a collection of writings by
followers of Jesus and nobody
realized the change, and nobody
protested against it? Believing
such a theory demands a lot of
blind faith in the Qur'an. It is
impossible. Anyone with the
least bit of common sense will
have to conclude that this
cannot possibly have happened,
and this implies that the author
of the Qur'an simply made an
error regarding the nature of
the Christian Scripture.
Religion / Re: The Population Of Hell by joezakdeen(m): 4:45pm On Jul 17, 2014
frosbel: ^^

Muhammed in Hell ? Who put him there , you ?

SMH
dats acording to d hadith. I quoted pls.
Religion / Re: The Population Of Hell by joezakdeen(m): 4:43pm On Jul 17, 2014
christ is d only way, truth nd light, no one else goes to the father unless thru Him. Repent!
Religion / Re: The Population Of Hell by joezakdeen(m): 4:42pm On Jul 17, 2014
dats hypocricy bro. God forgiv u for actin in His stead. God is the only judge nd knws who nd hw many r goin to hell. Truely the bible says ''lack of knowledge, my pple perish'' in d sight of God u dnt knw anytin ok. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book
12, Number 770:
Narrated Abu Huraira: The
people said, "O Allah's Apostle!
Shall we see our Lord on the
Day of Resurrection?" He
replied, "Do you have any doubt
in seeing the full moon on a clear
(not cloudy) night?" They replied,
"No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said,
"Do you have any doubt in seeing
the sun when there are no
clouds?" They replied in the
negative. He said, "You will see
Allah (your Lord) in the same
way. On the Day of Resurrection,
people will be gathered and He
will order the people to follow
what they used to worship. So
some of them will follow the sun,
some will follow the moon, and
some will follow other deities;
and only this nation (Muslims)
will be left with its hypocrites.
Allah will come to them and say,
'I am Your Lord.' They will say,
'We shall stay in this place till our
Lord comes to us and when our
Lord will come, we will recognize
Him. Then Allah will come to them
again and say, 'I am your Lord.'
They will say, 'You are our Lord.'
Allah will call them, and As-Sirat
(a bridge) will be laid across
Hell and I (Muhammad) shall
be the first amongst the
Apostles to cross it with my
followers. Nobody except the
Apostles will then be able to
speak and they will be saying
then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah
Save us.'
There will be hooks like the
thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you
seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The
people said, "Yes." He said,
"These hooks will be like the
thorns of Sa'dan but nobody
except Allah knows their
greatness in size and these will
entangle the people according to
their deeds; some of them will
fall and stay in Hell forever;
others will receive punishment
(torn into small pieces) and will
get out of Hell, till when Allah
intends mercy on whomever He
likes amongst the people of Hell,
He will order the angels to take
out of Hell those who
worshipped none but Him
alone. The angels will take
them out by recognizing them
from the traces of prostrations,
for Allah has forbidden the (Hell)
fire to eat away those traces. So
they will come out of the Fire,
it will eat away from the whole
of the human body except the
marks of the prostrations. At
that time they will come out of
the Fire as mere skeletons. The
Water of Life will be poured on
them and as a result they will
grow like the seeds growing on
the bank of flowing water..."
Muslims may find the above
narration incredible. Again, this
shows the ignorance of Muslims
regarding their religion. There is
no ambiguity in this Hadith. It
clearly states that Muhammad
and his followers are in "Hell."
According to this Hadith,
Muhammad is not in heaven but
in "Hell," awaiting for the arrival
of the "Day of Judgment" to get
into heaven. And he will be the
first to cross the bridge with his
followers to go to heaven. Please
note, this bridge ( As-Sirat ) is
"laid across Hell" and serves as
an exit to heaven. Since the
bridge is "laid across Hell,"
Muhammad has to be in "Hell"
for the Hadith to speak of him as
being among the first to use it to
come out from there.
The "Day of Resurrection"
Religion / Re: The Population Of Hell by joezakdeen(m): 4:35pm On Jul 17, 2014
frosbel: ^

Nope, it does not exist , it is a sadistic religious nonsense concocted by people who wanted to control other gullible people.

God does not work in the realm of fear only SATAN does.

Away with all the religious Lies and Myths.

smiley


i feel pity for u hypocrite. Dont u knw dat the lord God almighty is the only person dat knws the number of pple goin to heaven nd a ctegory of pple. Wen did u because a judge nd actin in God's stead whiles He is the only judge? God forgiv bro. Truely God said ''lack of knowledge, my pple perish'' buh u dont knw anytin in d sight of God ok. Dont follow gestures of pple which tempers faith of christian. Accordin to the hadith, muhamed nd all his follower ar goin to hell, hv u read dat? Jesus Christ is d only way, truth nd light. If u dont knw jesus, u dnt knw God. Repent! Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book
12, Number 770:
Narrated Abu Huraira: The
people said, "O Allah's Apostle!
Shall we see our Lord on the
Day of Resurrection?" He
replied, "Do you have any doubt
in seeing the full moon on a clear
(not cloudy) night?" They replied,
"No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said,
"Do you have any doubt in seeing
the sun when there are no
clouds?" They replied in the
negative. He said, "You will see
Allah (your Lord) in the same
way. On the Day of Resurrection,
people will be gathered and He
will order the people to follow
what they used to worship. So
some of them will follow the sun,
some will follow the moon, and
some will follow other deities;
and only this nation (Muslims)
will be left with its hypocrites.
Allah will come to them and say,
'I am Your Lord.' They will say,
'We shall stay in this place till our
Lord comes to us and when our
Lord will come, we will recognize
Him. Then Allah will come to them
again and say, 'I am your Lord.'
They will say, 'You are our Lord.'
Allah will call them, and As-Sirat
(a bridge) will be laid across
Hell and I (Muhammad) shall
be the first amongst the
Apostles to cross it with my
followers. Nobody except the
Apostles will then be able to
speak and they will be saying
then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah
Save us.'
There will be hooks like the
thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you
seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The
people said, "Yes." He said,
"These hooks will be like the
thorns of Sa'dan but nobody
except Allah knows their
greatness in size and these will
entangle the people according to
their deeds; some of them will
fall and stay in Hell forever;
others will receive punishment
(torn into small pieces) and will
get out of Hell, till when Allah
intends mercy on whomever He
likes amongst the people of Hell,
He will order the angels to take
out of Hell those who
worshipped none but Him
alone. The angels will take
them out by recognizing them
from the traces of prostrations,
for Allah has forbidden the (Hell)
fire to eat away those traces. So
they will come out of the Fire,
it will eat away from the whole
of the human body except the
marks of the prostrations. At
that time they will come out of
the Fire as mere skeletons. The
Water of Life will be poured on
them and as a result they will
grow like the seeds growing on
the bank of flowing water..."
Muslims may find the above
narration incredible. Again, this
shows the ignorance of Muslims
regarding their religion. There is
no ambiguity in this Hadith. It
clearly states that Muhammad
and his followers are in "Hell."
According to this Hadith,
Muhammad is not in heaven but
in "Hell," awaiting for the arrival
of the "Day of Judgment" to get
into heaven. And he will be the
first to cross the bridge with his
followers to go to heaven. Please
note, this bridge ( As-Sirat ) is
"laid across Hell" and serves as
an exit to heaven. Since the
bridge is "laid across Hell,"
Muhammad has to be in "Hell"
for the Hadith to speak of him as
being among the first to use it to
come out from theere
Religion / Re: The Population Of Hell by joezakdeen(m): 4:28pm On Jul 17, 2014
frosbel: ^

Nope, it does not exist , it is a sadistic religious nonsense concocted by people who wanted to control other gullible people.

God does not work in the realm of fear only SATAN does.

Away with all the religious Lies and Myths.

smiley


i feel pity for u hypocrite. Dont u knw dat the lord God almighty is the only person dat knws the number of pple goin to heaven nd a ctegory of pple. Wen did u because a judge nd actin in God's stead whiles He is the only judge? God forgiv bro. Truely God said ''lack of knowledge, my pple perish''
Religion / Re: Pastor David Oyedepo Plc by joezakdeen(m): 4:17pm On Jul 17, 2014
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book
12, Number 770:
Narrated Abu Huraira: The
people said, "O Allah's Apostle!
Shall we see our Lord on the
Day of Resurrection?" He
replied, "Do you have any doubt
in seeing the full moon on a clear
(not cloudy) night?" They replied,
"No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said,
"Do you have any doubt in seeing
the sun when there are no
clouds?" They replied in the
negative. He said, "You will see
Allah (your Lord) in the same
way. On the Day of Resurrection,
people will be gathered and He
will order the people to follow
what they used to worship. So
some of them will follow the sun,
some will follow the moon, and
some will follow other deities;
and only this nation (Muslims)
will be left with its hypocrites.
Allah will come to them and say,
'I am Your Lord.' They will say,
'We shall stay in this place till our
Lord comes to us and when our
Lord will come, we will recognize
Him. Then Allah will come to them
again and say, 'I am your Lord.'
They will say, 'You are our Lord.'
Allah will call them, and As-Sirat
(a bridge) will be laid across
Hell and I (Muhammad) shall
be the first amongst the
Apostles to cross it with my
followers. Nobody except the
Apostles will then be able to
speak and they will be saying
then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah
Save us.'
There will be hooks like the
thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you
seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The
people said, "Yes." He said,
"These hooks will be like the
thorns of Sa'dan but nobody
except Allah knows their
greatness in size and these will
entangle the people according to
their deeds; some of them will
fall and stay in Hell forever;
others will receive punishment
(torn into small pieces) and will
get out of Hell, till when Allah
intends mercy on whomever He
likes amongst the people of Hell,
He will order the angels to take
out of Hell those who
worshipped none but Him
alone. The angels will take
them out by recognizing them
from the traces of prostrations,
for Allah has forbidden the (Hell)
fire to eat away those traces. So
they will come out of the Fire,
it will eat away from the whole
of the human body except the
marks of the prostrations. At
that time they will come out of
the Fire as mere skeletons. The
Water of Life will be poured on
them and as a result they will
grow like the seeds growing on
the bank of flowing water..."
Muslims may find the above
narration incredible. Again, this
shows the ignorance of Muslims
regarding their religion. There is
no ambiguity in this Hadith. It
clearly states that Muhammad
and his followers are in "Hell."
According to this Hadith,
Muhammad is not in heaven but
in "Hell," awaiting for the arrival
of the "Day of Judgment" to get
into heaven. And he will be the
first to cross the bridge with his
followers to go to heaven. Please
note, this bridge ( As-Sirat ) is
"laid across Hell" and serves as
an exit to heaven. Since the
bridge is "laid across Hell,"
Muhammad has to be in "Hell"
for the Hadith to speak of him as
being among the first to use it to
come out from there.
The "Day of Resurrection" or
Religion / Re: Pastor David Oyedepo Plc by joezakdeen(m): 4:15pm On Jul 17, 2014
tbaba1234:

I am muslim. This topic was not written by me and it was posted way back in 2012
the reason y u sufered nd brot dis is simple dat u r a hypocrite nd ur quran clearly says it. U r all goin to hell a u folow muhamed who leads u as a false prophet. Now see.... Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book
12, Number 770:
Narrated Abu Huraira: The
people said, "O Allah's Apostle!
Shall we see our Lord on the
Day of Resurrection?" He
replied, "Do you have any doubt
in seeing the full moon on a clear
(not cloudy) night?" They replied,
"No, O Allah's Apostle!" He said,
"Do you have any doubt in seeing
the sun when there are no
clouds?" They replied in the
negative. He said, "You will see
Allah (your Lord) in the same
way. On the Day of Resurrection,
people will be gathered and He
will order the people to follow
what they used to worship. So
some of them will follow the sun,
some will follow the moon, and
some will follow other deities;
and only this nation (Muslims)
will be left with its hypocrites.
Allah will come to them and say,
'I am Your Lord.' They will say,
'We shall stay in this place till our
Lord comes to us and when our
Lord will come, we will recognize
Him. Then Allah will come to them
again and say, 'I am your Lord.'
They will say, 'You are our Lord.'
Allah will call them, and As-Sirat
(a bridge) will be laid across
Hell and I (Muhammad) shall
be the first amongst the
Apostles to cross it with my
followers. Nobody except the
Apostles will then be able to
speak and they will be saying
then, 'O Allah! Save us. O Allah
Save us.'
There will be hooks like the
thorns of Sa'dan in Hell. Have you
seen the thorns of Sa'dan?" The
people said, "Yes." He said,
"These hooks will be like the
thorns of Sa'dan but nobody
except Allah knows their
greatness in size and these will
entangle the people according to
their deeds; some of them will
fall and stay in Hell forever;
others will receive punishment
(torn into small pieces) and will
get out of Hell, till when Allah
intends mercy on whomever He
likes amongst the people of Hell,
He will order the angels to take
out of Hell those who
worshipped none but Him
alone. The angels will take
them out by recognizing them
from the traces of prostrations,
for Allah has forbidden the (Hell)
fire to eat away those traces. So
they will come out of the Fire,
it will eat away from the whole
of the human body except the
marks of the prostrations. At
that time they will come out of
the Fire as mere skeletons. The
Water of Life will be poured on
them and as a result they will
grow like the seeds growing on
the bank of flowing water..."
Muslims may find the above
narration incredible. Again, this
shows the ignorance of Muslims
regarding their religion. There is
no ambiguity in this Hadith. It
clearly states that Muhammad
and his followers are in "Hell."
According to this Hadith,
Muhammad is not in heaven but
in "Hell," awaiting for the arrival
of the "Day of Judgment" to get
into heaven. And he will be the
first to cross the bridge with his
followers to go to heaven. Please
note, this bridge ( As-Sirat ) is
"laid across Hell" and serves as
an exit to heaven. Since the
bridge is "laid across Hell,"
Muhammad has to be in "Hell"
for the Hadith to speak of him as
being among the first to use it to
come out from there.

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