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Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 9:58pm On Aug 28, 2014
frosbel: Don't congratulate yourself too soon, our schedule is not based on your expectations but on the right timing and right audience.


What you fail to see in the immediate now is how thousands have already been delivered from this LIE on nairaland , and are also passing on this truth to others and creating a pyramid scheme not of mammon but of liberation from this demonic LIE of the tithe.

We will share the final tract once I get a few things (work related ) out of the way.

wink
did you say tithe is demon? This is a true manifestation just as Jesus told peter that he is a devil. Hmmm....i wish u really knew what u are saying. Its between u and whichever God you serve. Gudluck anyway.
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 8:29pm On Jul 23, 2014
Boomark:

A statement. Ignore the question mark and brace yourself. Would you accept the truth or have you sworn never to change your mind?

Those who have sworn not to change their mind on paying tithe will not be at peace when the truth is been revealed. They will certainly run on arrival.

In Mat 23:23, Christ never condemned tithe. He also remembered malachi 4:4 and kept the law(animal sacrifice inclusive). He never condemned it. So do you keep all that he kept, as his follower or you do you keep some?
undecided
Boomark:

A statement. Ignore the question mark and brace yourself. Would you accept the truth or have you sworn never to change your mind?

Those who have sworn not to change their mind on paying tithe will not be at peace when the truth is been revealed. They will certainly run on arrival.

In Mat 23:23, Christ never condemned tithe. He also remembered malachi 4:4 and kept the law(animal sacrifice inclusive). He never condemned it. So do you keep all that he kept, as his follower or you do you keep some?
Is this what u are going to base and print? Hahahaa..certainly its not based on the bible so the wiseman wil consider it as graphic and laugh, unless they are blind, ignorant or hypocrites like u. Its u that need change of mind. What's ur base proof, if Jesus didnt condemn it and also said christians shouldnt neglect it, but we should combine it with love and mercy for others. Are u now God? Ask yourselves, is what u are printing actually from the bible? Its what i'm telling u from myself or actually from the bible. I know your conscience wil come to know the trurh if u are not cursed with hardened heart. God loves u all.

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Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 7:16pm On Jul 23, 2014
Boomark:

When you are ready to brace yourself you let us know?
never include me in lies to deceive poeple, probably the anger of the almighty might come upon me if i folow u. Buh i wil be very glad if u include me to bring the truth into light. U can insult me anyhow u like buh i know the truth hurts. Sorry to say, u guys are lacking divine knowledge and wisdom buh its rather unfortunate u think u have since u have thrown ur bibles away and u also have fools to follow u. If the blindman leads a blind, wont they all fall into pit? God have mercy
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 7:15pm On Jul 23, 2014
smiley
Boomark:

When you are ready to brace yourself you let us know?
what's the meaning of that? Is that supose to be a question or a statement? grin
Boomark:

When you are ready to brace yourself you let us know?
what's the meaning of that? Is that supose to be a question or a statement?
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 5:03pm On Jul 23, 2014
PastorKun: @Frosbel
How do you propose we go on with the printing and distribution of the tracts? In my opinion the piece drummaboy wrote is an excellent and balanced one and I think we should proceed with it.
I do not suport fake pastors in nigeria buh i suport the bible for promptin us to continue payin our tithe.
U should that since Christ never condemned it, u are not wiser than Him and i assure u that u cant.
Anti-tithe is anti-Christ
anti-tithe is anti- God
and u shall never prosper.
You are blinded out of hypocricy because u think u even know more than the bible so you twist it to suit your conditions and tradition which is your own way of disobeying God's comandment. This is why Jesus said in matthew 15:3-9 dat ''...3 Jesus replied, "And why do
you break the command of God
for the sake of your tradition? 4
For God said, 'Honor your father
and mother' and 'Anyone who
curses his father or mother
must be put to death.' 5 But
you say that if a man says to his
father or mother, 'Whatever
help you might otherwise have
received from me is a gift
devoted to God,' 6 he is not to
'honor his father ' with it. Thus
you nullify the word of God for
the sake of your tradition. 7
You hypocrites! Isaiah was right
when he prophesied about you:
8 " 'These people honor me
with their lips, but their hearts
are far from me. 9 They
worship me in vain; their
teachings are but rules taught
by men.'"
this is not of the bible as u rob God. God is the father of all justice and i leave u guys for Him. If u want to be free from paying tithe, you are freeing yourself for the devil indeed. God is truely merciful. Anti-tithe? Are u not ashamed as a christian?

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Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 11:22am On Jul 23, 2014
.All
Scripture is breathed out by
God and profitable for
teaching, for reproof, for
correction, and for training in
righteousness, that the man
of
God may be complete,
equipped for every good
work.
2 Timothy 3:16-17.
If Jesus didnt condemn tithe payin, who are u to condemn it? God loves a cheerful giver and we believers know that our wealth goes where our heart is. Pls open your eyes and never be deceived by those who dont go to church for they dont know what happens there. Men of God go for evngelism, what shud they eat? Those who print leaflets containing word of God, what shud be used to pay the printing. Hiring of buses and machines for God,s work. Organising visits to the orphanage and giving to the widows out of the tithe payed. We christians also know that, even a cup of water to the man of God demands a lot of blessings from God because we understand God takes care of them through us acording to what the old people did. Pls if u dont pay ur tithe, will any pastor arrest u? Why dont u leave the word of God as it is? Jux because u dont want to pay out of greediness because u are not realising its God who gave u, u are now trying to twist the word of God in your favour. God forgiv u all. We understand what our money is being used for and should this be ur headache if the devil has blinded u? Learn for u do not know yet! Pray and God wil open your eyes for u have not seen yet. Tnx
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 9:41am On Jul 23, 2014
tithes were paid for the levites,widows,the poor and the needy in the old testamen, fair enough under the law. ''But did Christ who was worthy and truely knw what was realy right by then condemn the tithe? Its a question for u. When Christ rebuked the pharasees, he said in matthew 23:23 that..."Woe to you, teachers of the
law and Pharisees, you
hypocrites! You give a tenth of
your spices--mint, dill and
cumin. But you have neglected
the more important matters of
the law--justice, mercy and
faithfulness. You should have
practiced the latter,'' without
neglecting the former''

pls are christians of today deaf enough to hear from Jesus confirming the tithe that we shouldnt neglect it?

Our fore fathers paid tithe and its suposed to be throughout the generation of Abraham to now and thats why Christ never condemned it...see....numbers 18:20-28,God said..20 And the LORD said to
Aaron, “You shall have no
inheritance in their land,
neither shall you have any
portion among them. yI am
your portion and your
inheritance among the people
of Israel.
21 z“To the Levites I have
given every tithe in Israel for
an inheritance, in return for
their service that they do, their
service in the tent of meeting,
22 aso that the people of
Israel do not come near the
tent of meeting, blest they
bear sin and die. 23 But cthe
Levites shall do the service of
the tent of meeting, dand they
shall bear their iniquity. It shall
be a perpetual statute
throughout your generations,
and among the people of
Israel they shall have no
inheritance. 24 For the tithe of
the people of Israel, which
ethey present as a
contribution to the LORD, I
have given to the Levites for
an inheritance. Therefore I
have said of them that they
shall have no inheritance
famong the people of Israel.”
25 And the LORD spoke to
Moses, saying, 26 “Moreover,
you shall speak and say to the
Levites, ‘When you take from
the people of Israel the tithe
that I have given you from
them for your inheritance,
then you shall present a
contribution from it to the
LORD, ga tithe of the tithe.
27 hAnd your contribution
shall be counted to you as
though it were the grain of
the threshing floor, and as the
fullness of the winepress.
28 So you shall also present a
contribution to the LORD from
all your tithes, which you
receive from the people of
Israel. And from it you shall
give the LORD’s contribution
to Aaron the priest. Throughout your generation.
In the days of malachi, they paid tithe under the law, to those who preached. Didnt paul know this? So paul said in 1corinthians 9:8-11 that....8 Do I say this merely from a
human point of view? Doesn't
the Law say the same thing? 9
For it is written in the Law of
Moses: "Do not muzzle an ox
while it is treading out the
grain." Is it about oxen that God
is concerned? 10 Surely he says
this for us, doesn't he? Yes, this
was written for us, because
when the plowman plows and
the thresher threshes, they
ought to do so in the hope of
sharing in the harvest. 11 If we
have sown spiritual seed
among you, is it too much if we
reap a material harvest from
you?
They law givs preachers right to tithe up til dis day so Christ didnt condemn it. Because of this again timothy said in 1timothy 5:17-18...17 The elders who direct the
affairs of the church well are
worthy of double honor,
especially those whose work is
preaching and teaching. 18 For
the Scripture says, "Do not
muzzle the ox while it is
treading out the grain," and
"The worker deserves his
wages."
so based on the right preachers hav to be suported acording to the law, paul told the corinthians dat...1 Now about the collection for
God's people: Do what I told the
Galatian churches to do. 2 On
the first day of every week, each
one of you should set aside a
sum of money in keeping with
his income, saving it up, so that
when I come no collections will
have to be made.1corinthians 6:1-2. This is an old thing done for men of God who preach well.because paul said....'13 Don't you know that those
who work in the temple get
their food from the temple, and
those who serve at the altar
share in what is offered on the
altar? 14 In the same way, the
Lord has commanded that
those who preach the gospel
should receive their living from
the gospel.
The book of hebrew confirm it in hebrew 7:1-9...1 This Melchizedek was king of
Salem and priest of God Most
High. He met Abraham returning
from the defeat of the kings
and blessed him, 2 and
Abraham gave him a tenth of
everything. First, his name
means "king of righteousness";
then also, "king of Salem"
means "king of peace." 3
Without father or mother,
without genealogy, without
beginning of days or end of life,
like the Son of God he remains a
priest forever. 4 Just think how
great he was: Even the patriarch
Abraham gave him a tenth of
the plunder! 5 Now the law
requires the descendants of
Levi who become priests to
collect a tenth from the people--
that is, their brothers--even
though their brothers are
descended from Abraham. 6
This man, however, did not
trace his descent from Levi, yet
he collected a tenth from
Abraham and blessed him who
had the promises. 7 And
without doubt the lesser person
is blessed by the greater. 8 In
the one case, the tenth is
collected by men who die; but
in the other case, by him who is
declared to be living. 9 One
might even say that Levi, who
collects the tenth, paid the tenth
through Abraham,
the bible which is the word of God is realy held through generation and christians hav to hold unto it.romans 1:16 says...16 I am not ashamed of the
gospel, because it is the power
of God for the salvation of
everyone who believes: first for
the Jew, then for the Gentile.
Religion / Re: Nigerian Pastors Let my people be free by joezakdeen(m): 9:26pm On Jul 21, 2014
Tgirl4real:

Tithing isn't a new testament doctrine. There was a reason it was established and that reason is no longer valid now. A lot has been said on it on this forum already.
did i only quote the old testamen? Is the book of 1corinthians nd 1timothy in the old testamen.certainly not dear! There are other quotes in hebrew which suport payment of tithe. Dont be deceived. I thought u read all what i posted. Tnx
Religion / Re: Nigerian Pastors Let my people be free by joezakdeen(m): 3:20pm On Jul 21, 2014
PastorKun: @joezakdeen
Can you briefly tell us how the bible defines tithe with scriptures to back your definition? Also can you tell us God's purpose for establishing the tithe ordinance, what it was meant for, who the beneficiaries should be and the conditions precedent to be a tithe beneficiary? Kindly back up all your answers with undiluted scripture. Thanx
malachi 3:10...says....Bring the
whole tithe into the
storehouse, that there may be
food in my house. Test me in
this," says the LORD Almighty,
"and see if I will not throw
open the floodgates of heaven
and pour out so much
blessing that there will not be
room enough to store it.
Nd wen tithes are paid
xpecialy to b given to those
who preach nd teach the
word of God.
Nehemiah 12:44 says....On that
day men were
appointed to be in charge of
the storerooms for the
offerings, the first part of the
harvest, and the tithes. They
were responsible to collect
from the fields outside the
towns the portions required
by the Law for the priests and
Levites. For all the people of
Judah took joy in the priests
and Levites and their work.
The tithes given ar not
misused ok because the man
of God is worthy to b taken
care of as 1timothy 3:16-17
says...The elders who direct
the
affairs of the church well are
worthy of double honor,
especially those whose work
is preaching and teaching.
Unles odawise ur church is
fake or u dont go to church, u
cant rebel the payment of
tithe in d bible. They must also
benifit because they realy
suffer during the night nd
pray fr the church.
1corinthians 9:13-14
reads....Don't you realize that
those
who work in the temple get
their meals from the offerings
brought to the temple? And
those who serve at the altar
get a share of the sacrificial
offerings.
Pls som men of God ar gud
enough to share their
payment wid the poor nd
needy. Wat evidence again do
u need to pay ur tithe as a
christian nd b blessed. See..
Malachi 3:8-9. Will a man rob
God? Yet you
rob me. "But you ask, 'How do
we rob you?' "In tithes and
offerings. 9 You are under a
curse--the whole nation of
you--
because you are robbing me.
Pls read the bible nd go to
church nd stop folowing the
tots of som hypocrites. Dis is
hw the church shud be.
Unless odawise. Dou i dnt
suport the works of som fake
pastors bcls Christ made us
awre of dem.
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 2:47pm On Jul 21, 2014
DrummaBoy:

kai kai

English don suffer
jx wanted to type fast bro. Was a typin mistake buh english is of man. I tot u came around fr us to seek d truth or u came to chek english. I shorten som intentionaly so dnt wory bro. Glory be to God dat u can understand. Tnx

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Religion / Re: Nigerian Pastors Let my people be free by joezakdeen(m): 2:19pm On Jul 21, 2014
pls dats falls on d warning Christ gave to christians dat, other wil com to deceive dem nd fr that matter they shud b vigilant. Well noted buh if u think they r not true men of God as the bible say..by their fruits y shall knw dem'' shud dis prevent u frm goin to a church dat hv descent pastors nd uses church moni wel? Shud it prevent u frm goin to church nd payin ur tithe as the bible says? Is dat the only church in nigeria? R u goin astray because of the duins of man? At the end, God wil com nd judge everyone including the pastor nd He alone knws His sheep fr He is the true shepherd dear. We must pay tithe to embark on the work of God nd also posibly a portion to d poor and needy wher necesary.unless odawise, be anxious fr notin pls
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 1:38pm On Jul 21, 2014
i wudnt waste my time here, buh it realy pains me wen pple who claim they ar christians mislead others nd yet they wil also folow dem because they hv puten down theri bible nd listening to men. Buh i asure u, all those hypocrites wil b disgraced as Christ lives. I knw God neither sleeps nor slumber fr those who luv Him nd seek the truth rather dan lies to show pple dat they knw nd they ar oga. God is truely merciful.
Religion / Re: Nigerian Pastors Let my people be free by joezakdeen(m): 1:27pm On Jul 21, 2014
frosbel:

Read Acts 3:6 and Matthew 10:9
d fact dat peter said he has no gold to ofer doesnt mean if he had, he wudnt giv. Its even not compulsory if u hv. Bsides dats not tithe acording to d bible, acordin to d txt it was giving to d poor nd needy buh peter rather healed. Tithe is not taken frm unbelievers who do not even knw its esence buh if u r in d family already u hv to suport to facilitate the evangelism of today. Dats y jesus said we shudnt colect frm those we r goin to preach to. Buh after they come nd understand the teaching nd stay, its also fair dat they giv frm their heart to b able to win anoda lost sheep. Pray fr understandin of the bible bro nd learn. wink
frosbel:

Read Acts 3:6 and Matthew 10:9
d fact dat peter said he has no gold to ofer doesnt mean if he had, he wudnt giv. Its even not compulsory if u hv. Bsides dats not tithe acording to d bible, acordin to d txt it was giving to d poor nd needy buh peter rather healed. Tithe is not taken frm unbelievers who do not even knw its esence buh if u r in d family already u hv to suport to facilitate the evangelism of today. Dats y jesus said we shudnt colect frm those we r goin to preach to. Buh after they come nd understand the teaching nd stay, its also fair dat they giv frm their heart to b able to win anoda lost sheep. Pray fr understandin of the bible bro nd learn. Lolx (sory fr dat bro)

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Religion / Re: Nigerian Pastors Let my people be free by joezakdeen(m): 1:11pm On Jul 21, 2014
frosbel:

Read Acts 3:6 and Matthew 10:9
i said its off head bro.
Religion / Re: Nigerian Pastors Let my people be free by joezakdeen(m): 12:55pm On Jul 21, 2014
frosbel:

1. Does God eat Money , tell me when you last sent the whole tithe money to God.
2. Why does the money always go to the preachers
3. Why do preachers always have to promise the sheeple 100 fold during tithe taking sessions, is this not bribery.

Read Acts 3:6 and Matthew 10:9


Ole ! grin
wow! Wat a christian! Hahahaa....i'm shocked! God does not eat moni nd He wil neva do because He has abundant to giv to givers. If u organise evangelism reachout to a cottage as the apostles did wen Jesus left, wil u walk to d vilage if u cant? R they men of God goin to starve to death? If they ar goin wid leaflet wil u borow fr the printing? Pls the tithe is given to be used fr the work of God unless odawise. Nd we r seeking d truth in d bible not about my life buh u u care to knw, i pay my tithe bro nd God is blessing my work. Bsides its not frm the pastors, its frm the bible dat promps every cheerful giver of assured blessings. I jx dont think u shud hv problem wid d men of God oga, attack d bible because i'm realising u dnt wana folow d bible. If not folow wat d bible says nd u wil not find true pastors who deserve their wages guilty. because the bible congratulates dem not u who doesnt want to promote the work of God. Tnx. Ur quotes ar off head bro.

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Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 12:09pm On Jul 21, 2014
Gombs: joezakdeen, I see u r new here... leave these guys be! I've been with them for 5years online...quit trying to convince them, Jesus said

Matthew 7:6 kjv
Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.


Wait for it...you, ur church, ur pastor would soon be grossly insulted here grin
hahahahaa.....i wil continue to defend the truth always until hypocrites hv thought block. If they insult my pastor, its out of knowledge because they dont even knw him. Tnx big boss. God bless u. No doubt. God is gud.
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 12:06pm On Jul 21, 2014
frosbel:

Men of God should work and be supported during times of intermittent need, but this support should also extend to the people of God.

The last time I checked Christianity is not a career !
tnk God u r saying ''men of God'' buh pls answer my question. Hahahaa
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 12:02pm On Jul 21, 2014
frosbel:

The church does not go to church.

I fellowship with a few people from time to time.

I use my money to meet the real needs of people around me, this is the whole essence of giving.

I do not give money to crooks and charlatans to further their enterprise or franchise businesses.

cool

dats gud bro to giv to d poor and needy. God wil surely bless u if truely u do buh ar u disputing the true fact i quoted in d bible dat says men of God(preachers nd teachers) shud be cared fr nd out their gud labour they shud hv their share? wink
frosbel:

The church does not go to church.

I fellowship with a few people from time to time.

I use my money to meet the real needs of people around me, this is the whole essence of giving.

I do not give money to crooks and charlatans to further their enterprise or franchise businesses.

cool

dats gud bro to giv to d poor and needy. God wil surely bless u if truely u do buh ar u disputing the true fact i quoted in d bible dat says men of God(preachers nd teachers) shud be cared fr nd out their gud labour they shud hv their share as their gather souls fr christ?
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 11:55am On Jul 21, 2014
shdemidemi:

Bless you bro...

As much as I understand what you are saying here, we must not hold the wrong end of the stick to think not paying tithe means not giving to the church.

The bible encourage giving a lot as It makes us understand God loves a cheerful giver. If 10% of your salary is what you can cheerfully give without thinking of how you will get it back in multiple folds, give it. If 1% is what you can cheerfully give, give it without being coerced to. What you don't want to do is to be selfish or greedy with whatever you have. Jesus nor His disciples never commanded any Christian to pay any fixed amount or percentage to the church.

If we must calculate all the tithes the nation of Israel gave at the time, it was about 35% if put together. Putting it in another way, what they paid then as a nation was tax. They put all these things into one pocket and they share and allocate for the good and benefit of their nation. Similarly, we(Christians) pay obligatory tax today to whatever state or country we are based.
tnx bro. Pple do not go to church because they dont hv d right church. Sory to say, buh acordin to d bible we shud no alow our doubts deceive us frm wat d bible says. Do as it is nd b blessed. Those who dont pay deir tithe ar those who mostly mismanage deir finance without God's guidance. Giv it a try, d bible contains knowledge to help us sucesful in a way we might not understand. God is all knowing dear
Religion / Re: Nigerian Pastors Let my people be free by joezakdeen(m): 11:46am On Jul 21, 2014
frosbel:

Nope, this is your own insinuation !
malachi 3:10...says....Bring the
whole tithe into the
storehouse, that there may be
food in my house. Test me in
this," says the LORD Almighty,
"and see if I will not throw
open the floodgates of heaven
and pour out so much
blessing that there will not be
room enough to store it.
Nd wen tithes are paid
xpecialy to b given to those
who preach nd teach the
word of God.
Nehemiah 12:44 says....On that
day men were
appointed to be in charge of
the storerooms for the
offerings, the first part of the
harvest, and the tithes. They
were responsible to collect
from the fields outside the
towns the portions required
by the Law for the priests and
Levites. For all the people of
Judah took joy in the priests
and Levites and their work.
The tithes given ar not
misused ok because the man
of God is worthy to b taken
care of as 1timothy 3:16-17
says...The elders who direct
the
affairs of the church well are
worthy of double honor,
especially those whose work
is preaching and teaching.
Unles odawise ur church is
fake or u dont go to church, u
cant rebel the payment of
tithe in d bible. They must also
benifit because they realy
suffer during the night nd
pray fr the church.
1corinthians 9:13-14
reads....Don't you realize that
those
who work in the temple get
their meals from the offerings
brought to the temple? And
those who serve at the altar
get a share of the sacrificial
offerings.
Pls som men of God ar gud
enough to share their
payment wid the poor nd
needy. Wat evidence again do
u need to pay ur tithe as a
christian nd b blessed. See..
Malachi 3:8-9. Will a man rob
God? Yet you
rob me. "But you ask, 'How do
we rob you?' "In tithes and
offerings. 9 You are under a
curse--the whole nation of
you--
because you are robbing me.
Pls read the bible nd go to
church nd stop folowing the
tots of som hypocrites. Dis is hw the church shud be. Unless odawise. Dou i dnt suport the works of som fake pastors bcls Christ made us awre of dem.learn!
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 11:31am On Jul 21, 2014
frosbel:

You are walking in gross deception and don't even know it.

I repeat, most of you are gamblers , hoping that God will double your money, this is called the love of Mammon. SMH.
hahahhaaa....gambler? May His mercy b upon u bro. Now r u against ur bible as a christian? Wel enough jx point me wher tithe is forbiden in d bible. Ei! Sory, ''ur bible''. Truth is truth and one. I quoted d bible nd u start to insult.lolx dats cool buh u shud know dat.....All Scripture is breathed out by
God and profitable for
teaching, for reproof, for
correction, and for training in
righteousness, that the man of
God may be complete,
equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:16-17. Dats ur problem as a christian bro. I even saw one post of ur wher u said hell is not real. U wonder weda u r truely a christian to say dis. God is alknowing bro.
Religion / Re: Nigerian Pastors Let my people be free by joezakdeen(m): 11:18am On Jul 21, 2014
Tgirl4real:

Very well said except for the highlighted.
i mean the bible prompts us to pay our tithe dear. Wat else pls?
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 11:13am On Jul 21, 2014
DrummaBoy:

Another person-miss-road.

What are you saying, what are we saying on the thread?

Please read the OP.
i no miss road bro. I'm only suportin d payment of tithe whereva it goes because my book of knowledge(bible) tells me to pay my tithe. Pls if u pay ur tithe, fine! Buh if u dont as an earner jux because u think pastors ar becomin rich wid ur moni,den woe onto u. Jx do wat a christians do. I cant miss road oga. Lolxx
Religion / Re: 100% Proof Qur'an Is Not The Word Of God by joezakdeen(m): 10:56am On Jul 21, 2014
pls christians shud b very vigilant nd determined because Christ talked about the false prophets nd muhammed(saw) is not diferent, jx dat it takes knowledge to identify him as one. The quran quotes torah as in yusuf and cudnt identify reuben whose talk rescued joseph. Jux because he was aware of the authentic buh God blinded Him as devil. The clearly states dat, the bible shud testify the quran fr its autenticity buh God being so gud, its not in d bible . Al they hv to say is the bible is curupt buh muhamed copied frm it. Tnk God there ar 4 raised revelations dat he is in hel jux because he wanted to be like Jesus. Nd the quran clearly reveals dat muhamed is leadin dem to heal nd deir postration wil not burn nd they wil come out as skeleton. Omg! Allah! A god dat promises hel!
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 10:09am On Jul 21, 2014
trustman:

For goodness sake where in the Bible did you get all these things you're stating here!?
malachi 3:10...says....Bring the whole tithe into the
storehouse, that there may be
food in my house. Test me in
this," says the LORD Almighty,
"and see if I will not throw
open the floodgates of heaven
and pour out so much
blessing that there will not be
room enough to store it.

Nd wen tithes are paid xpecialy to b given to those who preach nd teach the word of God.
Nehemiah 12:44 says....On that day men were
appointed to be in charge of
the storerooms for the
offerings, the first part of the
harvest, and the tithes. They
were responsible to collect
from the fields outside the
towns the portions required
by the Law for the priests and
Levites. For all the people of
Judah took joy in the priests
and Levites and their work.
The tithes given ar not misused ok because the man of God is worthy to b taken care of as 1timothy 3:16-17 says...The elders who direct the
affairs of the church well are
worthy of double honor,
especially those whose work
is preaching and teaching.
Unles odawise ur church is fake or u dont go to church, u cant rebel the payment of tithe in d bible. They must also benifit because they realy suffer during the night nd pray fr the church. 1corinthians 9:13-14 reads....Don't you realize that those
who work in the temple get
their meals from the offerings
brought to the temple? And
those who serve at the altar
get a share of the sacrificial
offerings.
Pls som men of God ar gud enough to share their payment wid the poor nd needy. Wat evidence again do u need to pay ur tithe as a christian nd b blessed. See.. Malachi 3:8-9. Will a man rob God? Yet you
rob me. "But you ask, 'How do
we rob you?' "In tithes and
offerings. 9 You are under a
curse--the whole nation of you--
because you are robbing me. Pls read the bible nd go to church nd stop folowing the tots of som hypocrites. Tnx bro
Religion / Re: Design An Anti-Tithe Tract for £50 by joezakdeen(m): 8:39am On Jul 21, 2014
frosbel:

Hello Brother , long time.

I agree with you , what can we do against these enriched men of God ( I deliberately called them enriched not rich because they have enriched themselves at the expense of the poor sad )

Hope you are well and God bless.
if u r afraid to go to church and giv, u r a miser and u r against God. The tithe is to take care of the men of God as the bible says and all moni given to the church has acounts, unless ofcourse a fake church. Wen u go to church, giv. Is there problem wid dat. Bsides those giving do not hv problem wid it abi? U knw wat? because God continues to bless dem wid wat they giv. Those who calim they know neva knw! If u dnt pay tithe, u r a thief to God nd perhaps u might not knw hw blind u r. God is merciful.

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Religion / Re: Nigerian Pastors Let my people be free by joezakdeen(m): 8:16am On Jul 21, 2014
the first time i saw dis topic, i realy laughed buh cudnt com on platform because i had my practicals to do so i gave it a wiper. Pls all christians shud b prepared of thse pple who wil come confuse nd temper their faith. Unles u wana go contrary to d bible as hypocrite nd a miser who doesnt want to help christianity grow. We r to go outside nd preach the word of God, baptise dem in water. Now wen the repent r we to leave dem?no! We hav to com to a gatherin day by day nd start to teach dem wat the bible says. If they come nd they hav, they giv contribution as ofertory to help in d ministry God to win anoda lost soul. Hw wud christianity grow? Look Acts 2:47 says...Praising God and having favor
with all the people. And the Lord
added to their number day by
day those who were being
saved.

His is how the bible talk about hw the church builds. The bible put pastors as our shepherd to guide us thru the bible. Acts 20:28. Keep watch over yourselves
and all the flock of which the
Holy Spirit has made you
overseers. Be shepherds of
the church of God, which he
bought with his own blood.
Romans 12:5. so it is with Christ's body. We
are many parts of one body,
and we all belong to each
other. The is the nature of a christian church weda smal or big congregation.
Psalm 111:5. Says..Praise the LORD! I will give
thanks to the LORD with my
whole heart, in the company
of the upright, in the
congregation.
Dis is the congregation of God(church). Pls pals unless u neva want to seek the truth frm the bible. Pray to God nd surely, u shal knw rather dan beieng a hypocrite. Find a church and go. Giv wen u hv and make sure u apy ur tithe.it make u hardworkin nd blessed. Unless u r an atheist, wher in d bible does it say we shudnt pay tithe? I wil giv u answer later. Lets com bak to our main topic.
Romans 16:17 says....I urge you, brothers and
sisters, to watch out for those
who cause divisions and put
obstacles in your way that are
contrary to the teaching you
have learned. Keep away from
them. God knows a christian heart and truely luvs it. Pls if u cant read ur bible, leave God and Hid pple alone. Find a church and go so dat u suport wid ur blessing nd strngth God has given u. Tnx

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Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 11:53pm On Jul 20, 2014
Weah96: Do you know the meaning of the French statement that you posted on this page?
r u tryin to tel me u were humble enough to do all i told u wholeheartedly? And u wer truely ready to seek d truth nd knw God? Yh i realy understand bro. U tot somone typed fr me? No! Pls jx knw dat, out of hypocricy the devil wil win souls even more dan sinners. Buh i hv not given u answer yet bro. I only made u read d bible so dat u wil knw hw blind u r. Nd God been so gud, u didnt read the whole book of John nd didnt get tym to interprete or relate it wid d new testamen i told u. U didnt say my prayer wid dat broken heart in faith. Dont wory bro. If u r ready to knw nd bliv God based on dis, u wil get the answer because the fear of the lord is d begining of wisdom. Its realy acurate and logical if truely u wana seek God. Rememba christianity is not physical is u see it.
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 8:16pm On Jul 20, 2014
Weah96: Your answer is a book written by Jewish men. How did they know?
did i giv u any answer? Nd if i did, wat was it? Hv u eva dreampt b4?
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 8:14pm On Jul 20, 2014
Weah96: Your answer is a book written by Jewish men. How did they know?
did i giv u any answer? Nd if i did, wat was it?
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 5:38pm On Jul 20, 2014
Weah96: ^^^You're too far gone into the rabbit hole. Even Morpheus can't rescue you.
until u r able to find answer to dis question, neva doubt God. Dou i knw '' Not all men has the grace been given to knw and bliv God'' u might b lucky to knw Him nd b blessed.
Religion / Re: Is This Not Enough Reason To disBelief God? by joezakdeen(m): 5:29pm On Jul 20, 2014
john 18:36. Jesus answered, “My kingdom is
not of this world. If my kingdom
were of this world, my servants
would have been fighting, that I
might not be delivered over to
the Jews. But my kingdom is not
from the world.

Dou we seek God frm the almighty, buh we also understand him because wen He takes a christians soul, it realy has eternal life. Not the body. If u folow d physical aspect of life, u wil neva get d truth hidden in d rhelms of the spirit. Pray dat if u bliv, god wil grant u d Holy spirit nd truely u wil testify the true God fr u cant stand. God is God. Buh u cant b u because u cant creat a living. Tnx

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