chuglothen:

Thanks for the response. So if i get an outcome letter for degree alone, so in my application... I will not claim point for employment experience?
Then another thing is....only Tasmania is sponsoring Customer Service manager on 190. The other state Adelaide is sponsoring on 489. Should i go with Adelaide's 489 considering that Adelaide has opporrunities or Tasmania 190 though the state has the highest unemployment rate in Australia

you do not need/have to claim points for experience.As for choosing a state, I know nothing and can't advice u on that matter. Good luck

uchenna2017:
@Jorgan please come and explain more on this point test. What happened were the person got positive for employment and negative for Uni does the same thing imply.

I need to know so I can still dust oga documents and try the point test.

can't say for sure, but I know that some assessing bodies example ACS sometimes access only your employment then refer you to vetassess to get your qualifications accessed so it really boils down to ur assessing body, in ur case it's tricky, if u can get 60 points without qualifications but a positive in employment then I suggest u call DIBP and ask if u r eligible, additionally not all assessing bodies give point tests advice separately . It would have been safer if ur assessing body can give u a PTA for employment alone to clean up the bad stain a negative assessment letter has on ur final application. In my case I have been told by vetassess to contact dibp and ask if I can get my 15 points through a PTA regardless of my overall negative assessment.

chuglothen:
House, am back again. So am afraid of getting a negative assessment from VETASSES because my qualification is not relevant to my work experience. Can I apply as a Zoologist and indicate I do not want to claim points for work experience. Can that get me a positive assessment?
Oga Bellong and Co, help a distressed soul

To help urself from getting seriously burnt by vetassess just like me, I advice u have a phone consultation with their agent, that costs $220 for 30 minutes. If u nominate customer service manager as ur occupation irrespective of ur degree, as long as u have more than 3 years of experience u should be able to get a positive outcome for ur overall skills assessment.(This waiver is only restricted to some occupations tho)

Another thing u can do without consultation first is to nominate zoologist as ur occupation and do a full assessment even with ur banking experience, but u will eventually get a positive outcome for qualification ( comparable to AQF) but negative for ur employment then ur overall outcome will be negative. BUT that won't be d end, you will den proceed to get a POINT TESTS ADVICE from vetassess $380 to get an outcome letter for your degree alone. That will effect your 15 points and it will be taken into consideration by DIBP. I got to learn about this from vetassess on Friday, because we hv been in an ongoing battle for 8 good months

jorgan:


Pls I hv carefully followed your last 4 replies, but I hv a question, what if your assessing body in this case vetassess, assesses your qualification as highly relevant to ur nominated occupation and comparable to AQF, but your employment is not relevant? Can u still claim points for qualification for EOI?

pls @lawland lawland help with this question I beg

Azy123:
Plunge already taken since that is why I claimed 15 points. That was what I believed to be true but started doubting and fearing when I saw comments. As it is, nothing has changed.

CASE CLOSED. This case was open on this forum and closed before with the same conclusion.

Thanks lawland for the example from experience. If we like we can read all blogs but one single comparable experience helps put the mind at rest.
Thanks NNBB2012 for the info. Alphadoor #5 pt_movement#

Summary for others

As far as you have a positive assessment from an assessing body and the point you are claiming is clearly supported by CEP. the following applies...

1) If you have a positive assessment with one qualification and have another qualification that is higher you can use the higher qualification to claim point.
2) If your assessment authority is silent on the higher qualification - you can claim point for it
3) If the qualification is not related to your occupation - you can claim point for it
4) Even if you complete the highest qualification yesterday - you can claim point for it today

@ZoeW edit your 189 EOI Asap congrat on your ITA in advance

Pls I hv carefully followed your last 4 replies, but I hv a question, what if your assessing body in this case vetassess, assesses your qualification as highly relevant to ur nominated occupation and comparable to AQF, but your employment is not relevant? Can u still claim points for qualification for EOI?

nkechima:
@jorgan
Keep trying bro, it will be alright next attempt.

Summarize Text (30-40 w): Following A who did what type format to write
Or
Divide and Conquer - That's how you do it !

Here's a trick some people used. If there are 3 paragraph in the summary text article, They made one line summary of the 3 paragraph and then joined them together or made a summary of the summary.

Describe Graph: following a format/ template.

Tips number 1. You don't need to describe everything. Content doesn't matter, but Pronunciation and Oral Fluency. It is impossible to explain everything in 40s, hence worry about your Flow and Pronunciation.

Template:

Introduction: 10 s

This graph/bar chart/pie/etc shows the (chart name) from (this year) to (this year) or (over this certain year) or similar depending on the question.

Body points: 20s

Choose any point you like, it doesn't matter if you leave the most important data, just don't stop talking. For example, you can say,

1. the maximum is this.
2. the minimum is this

That's just the simplest of example, you can say a variety of that.
That's 2 points, you can also say more points if you have time.

Conclusion: 10 s

Most people don't say conclusion and hence lose marks. It is one of the most important thing. Official guideline say you should try give a conclusion.

You should definitely use either Overall or In conclusion to start the conclusion with so the computer understands you are saying a conclusion.

e.g. In conclusion, the trend shows its rising, or In conclusion, A is always higher than B, etc.

Most important: Don't correct yourself if you make a mistake - it's quite hard as it's our habit to do so, just say the next word, even if its xxxxxxxxxx, just keep on talking : Yes this tip is from Pearson. Computer doesn't care what you say, but how you say it !!!

This is very helpful, thanks for this

DatechMan:


Did you try PTE-A?

yup I did, speaking messed me up

bellong:


This is not to spite of insult you. It is for lack of better word.

What you have done is Penny wise, pounds foolish. $810 is enough to write 3-4 English test depending on the one you write.

Why subject yourself to the torture of Vetasses all over again when you could have written another English test.

You have a positive assessment in your hand, I don't think getting a state sponsorship is that easy either without adequate work experience. Young man, dust your English and ace the 20 points.

Yes, you can do it.. others have done it.. you will not be an exemption.

Thanks bellong, u r right! I was having doubts about writing another English test cause I have made 4 attempts in 6 months. But since it's my last hope now, I hv no choice! Thanks for d pep up

Jbelieve:


Please what is your job position? And how many years experience do you have?
I intend assessing for this occupation soon.

Builder, and I have 1 and 6 months of experience

mabeline1:

I don't think you can do that like vetassess stated for you to get positive outcome both should be positive. My husband had the same issue why not rewrite your English test and make use of your first assessment.

My 2cent sha

thanks so much, you are right! apparently to be eligible at all for the PR Visa you must have had at least 12 months of work experience in nominated occupation.

Giving english test another shot then!

greetings to everyone, please i need your help (especially for those that have assessed with vetassess) and advice on a very serious issue.

Before the new MTLSSL and STSOL list was released in April i had already put in my EOI for state nomination visa 190 for the occupation PROJECT BUILDER. Vetassess is the assessing body for this occupation. I got a positive outcome for this occupation way back in January. My points breakdown is:-

Age:- 30 Points
Qualification:- 15 points
English:- 10 points

but when the list changed, the occupation project builder was only restricted to the visa 189 rather than 190, but i don't meet the minimum points to apply for the 189. So what i did was to nominate another occupation construction project manager which can be used to apply for visa 190 through state nomination.

The way vetassess assesses is very demonic as they do not assess separately for qualification and employment but rather they do both at once in a full assessment. i got my assessment for the change of occupation few days back and the outcome letter states that my Qualification is highly relevant to the occupation i have nominated, but my work experience is not highly relevant. That both qualifications and work experience must be positive to get a "POSITIVE SKILLS ASSESSMENT OUTCOME".

I only want to claim points for qualification and i do not even have enough years to claim points for experience. if it were possible, i would have just assessed for qualification alone, but vetassess dont assess a single aspect of your skills. I just spoke with my case officer a few minutes ago to see if i can use my qualification alone on that outcome letter to claim points for my qualification for EOI, but she stated that i must present both positive qualification and positive employment for visa 190/189, that it is only in the case of applying for a post study work visa that i can present only qualification.

so right now i am at a crossroad because i dont think the woman knows what she is taking about. do i go on with submitting an EOI claiming points for age, english and qualification but in the outcome letter reference number( which carries a positive qualification and a negative employment) in my application form or just look elsewhere for inspiration in getting points?

Please and please i have been on this issue for two days now i am lopping everyone for an advice? thanks so much

SallyAUS:


@ metrecube; Congrats

please want to ask; I have a B.Sc. in Building from Nigeria and an MSc. in Construction Project Management from The UK, with about 1-3 years experience in the construction industry. My question is should i be applying for project builder or construction project manager?

to add to what metrecube said, I would advise that you assess construction project manager instead of project builder becos with construction project manager, you can apply for either d 189 n 190 subclasses, or even d regional but with project builder u r only restricted to visa 189! I am currently facing ds problem I initially got assessed as a project builder and put in my EOI for 190 but after the skilled list was revised, d occupation was removed from d state list, I now hv to reassess as a construction project manager as I only hv 55 points and I m relying on d state nomination

More this one is for visas 186,187, 190 and 189

https://www.border.gov.au/WorkinginAustralia/Documents/reforms-australia-permanent-employer-sponsored-migration-programme.pdf

This should come in very handy for you guys, this is a factsheet on d immigration crack down. Apparently, d STOL list will be updated every six months and a stiffer English requirement is on its way come July 1 and penal test

https://www.border.gov.au/WorkinginAustralia/Documents/abolition-replacement-457.pdf

Prolivingproof:


I don't think you fully understood what mctowel01 posted

Maybe he/she should hv been more specific, there r rounds for 12th of April and 26th of April and still more for those that their occupation is still well below the quota. For engineering, IT, yes, this maybe d last one but many occupations still hv a long way to go before July 1.

na so una go just mislead person. Below is a link for occupation quota and ceilings to guide anyone that is yet to put in an EOI abeg, plan accordingly n don't b misled!

http://deltaimmigration.com.au/Australia-jobs/occupation-ceilings.php

mctowel01:
Hahaha
Very funny day. My battery was at 2% at 2pm waiting for the ITA. I was in the bank, waiting for confirmation before paying for medicals. Some mins past two, no invite... omo, I started thinking about the people that might have been doing me from the village. Next thing I heard was the round will be at 3pm. You need to see me asking security and strangers for usb charger. Shortly after the thing landed at 3pm, my phone went off till this evening.

Thaks to everyone that have been part of the journey to this stage. Respect to chief bnimz, the selfless mamajaz and Jamson. Crazy to say that this round is that last possible round for 60pointers till God knows when and also the last complete round for the year's quota. Its all grace.
Its been a long journey.... Thankful

Don't mislead people, get ur facts right! This round is not the last one

bellong:


If you write a passionate letter to Malcolm Turnbull and Peter Dutton, they will bear the cost..

Does Nigeria government bears the cost of visa for foreigners?

Wetin person no go hear...

lmfaoooooooooooo

234ng44uk:
Result of IELTS of 4th March, 2017 have just been released. I had a near perfect score which recently expired. Surprisingly, my scores in this latest test is unbelievable, it is ridiculous. How can one go from LRWS 8/9/8/8.5 to 7/6.5/7/6.5 in just about 2 years? Please note that I lived in the UK for the better part of those 2 year period. "I'm not understanding".
Is someone there cooking up scores? If that is the case then IELTS in Nigeria is a scam.

i just suffered the same predicament, its not only nigeria but here in Australia as well! On to PTE straight

owenklay:
Hey,

Hope you are enjoying the 'trekking'? Lol!

Solitin40:
Jorgan thank you for the hints but the you remembered that somebody told before going to Australia that you need drivers license for you to get a job and what you told the person was that ’the Man go struggle '

God bless the people of Nairaland back to back

yeah bro I remember, u r right! I was naive but now I see.

oluwatobi94:






Mates not all this information is correct. I've stayed in newcastle for almost 2 years now and I got my first job the second third day I arrived. And I have a lot of people that started their first job the same day they got to Australia.

Mate?! Lol okay

POTUSUK:



Thanks Jorgan for that detailed response. But is it that getting an Australian Drivers licence is Hard?

I can't say for sure if it's easy getting an AU license but I know that there r different classes of licenses with crazy restrictions n monitoring. There is the L, P1, P2 & C! You must take some driving lessons, fill logs n then some exams. The most independent license here I think is the C, but for the rest there r speed restrictions, second, third n even fourth party monitoring. Google to get a better insight

onyemamuoc:
make u no laugh me, I'm heading to Newcastle university... but mehnnn their campuses are plenty.. all scattered from Sydney to Newcastle city from Newcastle city to Newcastle precinct from there to Singapore then to one other name like that...all the same..my flight will land in Sydney. maybe I have to head straight to the school to determine my base...have you gotten your grant?

Just a little advice for you:-

Carry ur load and base in Sydney. Yes UoN has campuses in Sydney, Ourimbah, Callaghan n Newcastle city precinct! If your chosen program has core courses in Sydney just stay in Sydney n don't come to Newcastle. Otherwise if you want to base in Newcastle, bring your drivers license (naija license) it's a must! Set aside 800 -1600$ to get a car! If not, you will struggle trying to get a job here, trust me, you will struggle! This is not a case of people with different luck or that you don't need to get a car, you got God n hustle skills! Big NO! Hell NO! Guys here hv stayed up to 6 months without getting a job, some hv been forced to move to Sydney (where you can get jobs easily) some have had to travel outside Newcastle everyday to work! The only jobs you can find here r cleaning jobs, retail replenish n age care! All of which you need a car! As long as you r on a student visa, don't come to Newcastle.

However if you don't want to take my advice n u still want to come to Newcastle, buy plenty tissue papers and jackets! You will cry so you need tissue to wipe ur tears, then the jacket is for the cold, you know, it's winter so you will need to cover your body while waiting at the bus stop for public transport that don't arrive according to schedule.

Overall, Newcastle is a friendly city with great multicultural people! Downside: getting a job, n transportation.

elnino2015:
Hello house,

Please I have some pertinent questions that I need you guys to answer

1. Do Australian universities request for official transcripts sent from foreign universities to consider international students for admission like US and Canada schools do

2. How much is the current exchange rate of the AUD to the NGN. I'm applying to UNSW and they are requesting for an application fee of AUD100. Please I'll like to know the Naira equivalent of this.

Thanks in anticipation for your answers.

Hello,

1. Yes Australian unis request for your official transcript. You can send directly to the school you plan to apply yourself or you can request your school to make the transfer (soft copy).

2. Nigeria trades in three major currencies, the USD, POUNDs and EUROs! And the most widely used is the USD. No set rate for the AUD. However, you can get around this, since you will pay for your application fee using your debit or credit bank provided by a Nigerian bank, u will be debited in USD/naira. Hence the rate of 1 USD to 1 AUD as @ the point of typing this is 1.30 dollars. Now divide AUD100 by 1.30 this approximately gives you USD77 then multiply the USD77 by the black market rate of your debit card provider, say 295 naira (Stanbic). Your application fee then is 22,715 naira.

I hope this is clear enough?!

adim02:
E house please help me thank God oooooooooooopooo my Visa just land ooooooooo.jorgan my good friend Newcastle University here we come.

Whoop whoop this is the best news for me so far this week...Really happy for u frank! Thank God! Really happy for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!this is great

oobidike:
Whao, your prompt responses are always helpful. Thanks a lot
please paying of school fees is quite tough for me, I have left my filled form A with first bank since 3weeks now but it still hasn't gone.
Please which bank is quite faster with this process.

Pls prepare ur mind to defer your admission, don't try to withdraw ur form A application unless u have a concrete option.

Keep the pressure on your bank and if possible get the phone number of the telex officer that you submitted your form to. Inform your school of an imminent deferment.

Wallsbunny:
Cheii..God is good

Oya make una sharply help me Praise GOD

I must appreciate the efforts of some great people on this thread, (they are people I call the A-Z Guru's and Oga's). You guys are doing a great job God reward y'all greatly. Been a silent reader after i was denied 572 visa last year(Depressing). I keep asking myself "Can u BELIEVE one more time? i Jump off and shake my refusal, dust documents, REFIRE.

If i shout it wont be enough! You are the great and mighty God, so beautiful to be PRAISE. It was a very tough journey all through the process! and a Long wait which i almost lost hope.

I lodge SAME 572 application in Jan and to God be the Glory I got my Granted Yesterday. To all Expectant, Grace will speak for you this season, in Jesus name!

Congratulations

magastefan:
I got admission to study geosciences at macquarie for 1.5yrs and same course in UWA FOR 2YRS. Pls house which should I go for considering casual jobs in Sydney and Perth. Which was be easier to get casual jobs. @nibbs, scrollmeout, Jorgan and other gurus in the house..... I nid ur help urgently.

if I am not mistaking, uwa is cheaper than Macquarie. Both cities have great job opportunities, whether Casual jobs/part-time or full time. Realistically, Sydney has more job opportunities and a higher cost of living compared to Perth.

If I were you, I would just go for the uwa offer since its 2 years, you can get more post study visa options after completing your studies compared to the 1.5 years Macquarie is offering you. That's if you plan on settling down in au after studies. You can also easily get a casual job in Perth. Most africans r there.

Stan658:


Please can you help me with a list of some universities that I can apply to? Would it be necessary also to take IELTS or other English tests?

Pls check this link for schools http://www.australianuniversities.com.au/list/ you got lucky today, but there r somethings that require you checking Google. One of such is this.

As for the English test, you may not need it for most schools in Australia. So if you don't have time to write it now, don't bother! But na beg I dey beg you, Pls write an English test and pass it in your free period. You will thank me later!

Stan658:


Thanks a lot Jorgan. Please can I get your number. I really need help, I'm clueless about the procedures and I need directions. Hope to hear from you. Thanks a lot

Bro the best place you can get help is by seeking everyone's opinion on here. There r really very wonderful people on this thread, ready to help.

i will advise that you ask your questions here so we all can guide you, in order for you to make an informed judgement. Don't solely rely on one person's words.

But if u insist on my number my mail addy is in my bio.

Stan658:
Hi, I'm new here and I need a lot of help. Is it possible to apply to a school in Australia and still meet up this year? Are there good schools that one can apply for Masters using a 3rd class Bachelor's Degree from Nigeria. Is it possible to be granted a study visa even though I have no one in Australia? Thanks a lot. Expecting a reply soon

Hello, yes you can meet up this year! The intake dates for Aussie universities fall in the months of February/March, May, July/August & November on Trimester & Semester basis.

Yes, you can use a 3rd class Bachelor Degree from Nigeria to apply and get an offer. But be ready to apply in at least 3-4 universities to improve ur chances.

Yes you can be granted a student visa whether you have someone there or not.