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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 3:49am On May 20, 2017
forgiveness:


Which Nairobi's towers?

I do things to educate myself and not to win or lose. Being fair to myself is one of the principles I adopted before learning.

To be honest, three good sources placed KCB height at 99m. They say where there are two witnesses...

Lemac is 23 floors, counting from the ground floor up to the last floor. It is very glaring from pictures that it's indeed 23 floors and the two sources are right on point.

The other 3 floors are buried under ground. We call it basement. They are inconsequential when the building is measured from the ground floor up to the last floor.

Just direct me to two or three sources that confirmed the building is 126m. On my part, I have checked and everywhere I checked confirmed it is below 90m.

The source I gave you counts only 5 for Nairobi and 5 for Lagos. It was I that double checked to confirm but I discovered 1 was missing on both sides. Teleposta Tower was missing from the list and the ministry of Communication Building was missing from the list.

I added both to each counts.

Talk of buildings over 100m high. Africa has only 2 skyscrapers. one in Nairobi and the other in Jo'burg with two more under construction in Nairobi.

Meanwhile here is a list of high-rises in Nairobi with over 20 floors. Can Nigeria beat that?

Complete Towers
1. Britam - 31
2. UAP - 33
3. Times Tower - 33
4. KICC - 28
5. NSSF building - 28
6. Nyayo House - 27
7. Teleposta Tower - 27
8. Anniversary Tower - 27
9. LéMac - 26
10. 4th Ngong Avenue Tower - 25
11. Co-op Bank House - 25
12. KCB Tower - 24
13. Ambank House - 22
14. UoN Chandaria Tower - 22
15. National Bank Tower - 21
16. King's Distinction Residence Tower - 22
17. Viewpark Tower - 20
18. Hazina Tower - 25
19. Uchumi House - 21
20. Kenya Re Tower - 21
21. Lonrho House - 22
Topped Out
1. Prism Tower - 34
2. Parliament Tower - 26
3. FCB tower - 25
Under Construction
1. Hass Tower 1 - 67
2. Avic Office Tower - 46
3. Hass Tower 2 - 45
4. Montave Tower 1 - 40
5. Montave Tower 2 - 40
6. Hazina Trade Center - 38
7. Avic Hotel Tower - 35
8. Avic Tower 3 - 28
9. Upper Hill Chambers - 26
10. Avic Tower 4 - 25
11. One Place Africa - 24
12. Avic Tower 5 - 24
13. Avic Tower 6. - 24
Total over 20 floors complete and under construction = 37.
Nairobi is peerless.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 3:34am On May 20, 2017
CocoMilian:



I dont get the obsession with this pic honestly Nigerians can you be at least creative for once when you tryin arguing jeez smiley

Very useless people.

There's one of them here who says nothing of importance but keeps talking about other people and how Kenyans have been taking this thread too seriously yet he's been here since last year bitter over everyone. I think he's a gossip yet he's a man. lol. I know you know him, he has an ugly name starting with O and follows me everywhere getting bitter over everything I post. lol.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 3:27am On May 20, 2017
Marcelo290:
Objectively speaking, Nairobi and Mombasa are the only two cities you got, I took my time to research on these other places you posted, only to discover they are just mere towns, some have good touristic appeal though, but these places are visited mainly by foreigners, where then is the chunk of your other citizens? don't make me believe what I've been hearing and seeing on google is true.

In Nigeria we have other cities bustling in business and every social life you can think of, all state capitals in Nigeria have attained some level of development, there are still many more of them like Aba, Warri, Onitsha, Zaria, Nnewi, etc.. Not to mention places like Calabar, Enugu, Owerri, Ibadan, Akure, Kano, Kaduna, Uyo, and many others, not adding other major towns, these are all outside the Lagos, Abuja and Port hacourt you already know, and there are level of social activities and developments going on in all these places..

We are developing more than 40 cities at a time, you now see why most times I find it tiring to engage in dick measuring comparisons with you guys.

In Universities you just got University of Nairobi and Kenyatta university with good structures, here we have UNN, UNILAG, ABU ZARIA, UNIBEN, UI, UNICAL, UNIILORIN, UNIPORT, UNIJOS, UNIUYO, UNIZIK, UNIMAID etc Not including other world class private Universities apart from the federal ones I just listed, including State varsities...

My point is, we got much of everything, while you guys keep boasting with the few you got, none of us live in forests, so you see why these whole arguments sound funny and flawed to me... nevertheless, you guys are making progress, but we are incomparable at least for now.

I posted here photos of Kenyan universities other than UoN and KU and every body agreed they were waay more world class than those craps you call UNILAG, IU, UNIBEN and whatever. Thing is, Kenya has way better universities than Nigeria.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 3:11am On May 20, 2017
arinzeejikonye:




You got nothing on nigeria

Ugly....
and please post something outside Lagos and Abuja as we are posting outside Nairobi and Mombasa.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 3:07am On May 20, 2017
TayserMahiri:


For real though, who are these people
Who bewitched them?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 9:11pm On May 19, 2017
forgiveness:


Now you talking but your irony no fit deceive me. gringrin

I have not come here to win or lose, I have come here to learn. Hope you have the same mindset. grin...


If you had come here to learn you would be learning. But you're not. You choose to believe what makes Lagos look superior. I'm sorry sir, you in particular are not here to learn but to win.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 9:07pm On May 19, 2017
Nowenuse:


Since when did number of highrises equate to development?
London got their first highrise building in 2011. Has that stopped London from being a major financial centre of the world?
What shallowness!
"London got its first high-rise in 2011" - can these Nigerian kids get any more dumber?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 9:06pm On May 19, 2017
Eastwalk:
We call this supermarket in Nigeria

Stop losing focus.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 9:04pm On May 19, 2017
Eastwalk:
You lost focus, not the right person undecided undecided

Sure..... too uninformed for my taste.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 9:00pm On May 19, 2017
freshest4live:

Shopping malls? They would show you the ones from Nairobi and Mombassa. Still don't know if there are other cities in Kenya. In Nigeria there are other cool places too we hardly talk about like Cross rivers, Enugu, Owerri, and even my small oil city warri. Benin has also improved a lot. There are many more cities l haven't been to as well.

That shopping mall has nothing on a Kenyan shopping mall in small Kenyan town.

Buffalo Mall Naivasha

Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 8:55pm On May 19, 2017
Eastwalk:
Unilag senate building
Did you just post this immediately after making an ugly accusation? lol
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 8:49pm On May 19, 2017
TayserMahiri:

Would be better to see if the streets are bleached too... wink
Wacha uchokozi. hahaha
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 8:48pm On May 19, 2017
uzzyfire:
yes kinera is very beautiful grin grin
What is Kinera?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 8:44pm On May 19, 2017
forgiveness:


Because the other two are below 100m. grin

From 10, it has reduced to 9. grin Now, remove KCB and LéMac and you will have 7(plus the one topped out). Comprehend!? grin those are the imaginary ones. grin

Give me the evidence to show that all the 8 are underconstruction else I will term it another lie. grin

Why are you struggling so hard to remove Nairobi towers? Lol.

I&M bank is just over 99m but below 100m. Some sources put it at 99 while others put it at 100. I first included it in the list but when I saw how bad you were struggling I knocked it off to avoid lots of argument.

KCB however is 100m and I've given you several posts to show you how LéMac's height was increased. You just pretend not to get it. Interestingly the website you're using to place Nairobi's count to 6 and LéMac at less than 100m places Lagos' count at 5 yet you don't use it to conclude Lagos has only 5 towers over 100m lol.

Interestingly the website you use also places many other towers at heights that were long revised (For instance it places Hass tower 1&2 at 212m and 137m yet the heights have been long revised to 320m and 201m).
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 8:36pm On May 19, 2017
freshest4live:

These Kenyans think the only thing that can make a mega city is the number of highrise and skyscrapers. Lagos is still the business hub of Africa and Africa's fifth largest economy (if you consider it a country). It is definitely the business capital of Africa.

You keep shifting goals when you're beaten and every time we beat you lol. It's you Nigerians who started the high-rise thing. I can see you're trying to escape it after being beaten now.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 8:34pm On May 19, 2017
Hbuyosh:


To be honest, I really no longer regard SA with awe like in the past, watching all these infrastructural projects going on in Kenya. Whoever will win in the August elections, may the president be the person who will have the capacity to steer this country further to higher levels of development.

Actually SA is still much ahead. Upperhill may be taller but the infrastructure in Sandton is first world. Look at those roads. Their buildings might be shorter too but the architecture is amazing.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 8:30pm On May 19, 2017
Nowenuse:
Kenyans are such shameless people. Imagine Muafrika2 using the pic of the most handsome man in Kenya as his own picture.

I dare Kenyans to post at least 3 selfie pics of themselves. I can post 10 of my selfie pics here.

For all those who have been dying to see my face cheesy
Here am i, my humble self. @TayserMahiri, Muafrika2(the shameless kenyan),
(my pic will always be on my profie henceforth!)
@Cocomilian (my ugly Kenyan crush wink), @fanficgirl, Ednite (my real crushes) howdy?

I want to see the Kenyan, Ghanaian or South African i am chatting with here that is more handsome than me! (A challenge)!

You're still a kid. No wonder you sound so immature.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 8:23pm On May 19, 2017
Here are Nairobi's Complete Towers with over 20 floors. (Tower and number of floors)

Did I hear someone say Nairobi has 18 towers complete and under construction over 20 floors same as Lagos? Well check it out.

Complete Towers

1. Britam - 31
2. UAP - 33
3. Times Tower - 33
4. KICC - 28
5. NSSF building - 28
6. Nyayo House - 27
7. Teleposta Tower - 27
8. Anniversary Tower - 27
9. LéMac - 26
10. 4th Ngong Avenue Tower - 25
11. Co-op Bank House - 25
12. KCB Tower - 24
13. Ambank House - 22
14. UoN Chandaria Tower - 22
15. National Bank Tower - 21
16. King's Distinction Residence Tower - 22
17. Viewpark Tower - 20
18. Hazina Tower - 25
19. Uchumi House - 21
20. Kenya Re Tower - 21
21. Lonrho House - 22


Topped Out

1. Prism Tower - 34
2. Parliament Tower - 26
3. FCB tower - 25


Under Construction

1. Hass Tower 1 - 67
2. Avic Office Tower - 46
3. Hass Tower 2 - 45
4. Montave Tower 1 - 40
5. Montave Tower 2 - 40
6. Hazina Trade Center - 38
7. Avic Hotel Tower - 35
8. Avic Tower 3 - 28
9. Upper Hill Chambers - 26
10. Avic Tower 4 - 25
11. One Place Africa - 24
12. Avic Tower 5 - 24
13. Avic Tower 6. - 24

Total over 20 floors complete and under construction = 37.

Nairobi is peerless.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 7:39pm On May 19, 2017
TayserMahiri:
Eland antelope pondering on what to do once he gets to downtown nairobi



One of the most beautiful cities on the continent. Only Cape Town can claim to be staunchly ahead of Nairobi in terms of beauty on this continent.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 7:38pm On May 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


She clearly mentioned that a Nigerian sponsored her ? undecided

KarmaKill et CocoMilian , Huddah lightened her skin but its not as Vera's .

Whatever rows your boat man.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 7:28pm On May 19, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


How you got to still make Nigerians look bad even when it seemed impossible has to be a skill grin . Vera Sidika wasn't dating a Nigerian before she turned white neither was Huddah Monroe . I'm a blogger so I know these things cool

Huddah Monroe is naturally lightskinned. I never knew bloggers know everything.........you've just proved otherwise anyway.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 7:26pm On May 19, 2017
obaaderemi:
Has anyone ever told you how ridiculous and pathetic you sound when you are desperate?Even a change of name has not changed you.Hahahahahaha.


You must be a big gossip wherever you come from. You spend more time talking about other people here than sharing anything substantive. No wonder Vaxx said all your posts have no content. lol.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 7:19pm On May 19, 2017
Prism Tower updates.

133m

Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 7:16pm On May 19, 2017
Jay254:
Avic is rising very fast.. 6 at a go
.


.....and someone claims this building is still in proposed stage. Lol
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 7:13pm On May 19, 2017
obaaderemi:
Nothing is hidden anymore,gringo.

Google pundits. People who think they're experts on everything since they discovered they can use Google and will argue strongly over something they don't know just because of a blog they read or Wikipedia. This is not the kind of brains I would want to debate with. Sorry.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 6:36pm On May 19, 2017
TayserMahiri:
1. One Afric render and progress

2. Lemac render and progress

The LéMac render you gave was the initial one that was designed to be 87m tall. It had 2 penthouses on its roof. The final product as you can see has a dome shaped roof-top bar and is 126m tall.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 6:33pm On May 19, 2017
forgiveness:



Unfortunately, CTBU doesn't count 'PROPOSED' and UNDERCONSTRUCTION' structures. grin

The CTBUH insist that a building should only be added to the official tallest list when it is (i) topped out structurally and architecturally, (ii) fully clad, and (iii) open for business, or at least partially open. This became the CTBUH official definition of a building’s "completion".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CTBUH

Point of correction the tallest building underconstruction is Corporate Tower 2 - 200m - 210m

And Abuja World Trade Center Tower 38-45 floors, 158m. grin

There is another one but... grin

You forget I was responding to your post where you were talking of you beating Kenya once your buildings are complete. Lol. Does CTBUH only insist when talking about Nairobi or does it ignore its rules when talking about Nigeria?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 6:29pm On May 19, 2017
forgiveness:


You eyes don dey clear small small. grin The early the better. grin

Now that you have confirmed that we have 8 completed skyscrapers, I will proceed to the next one. grin

Yes! You are right. CBN Abuja is 95m. Bhuuuhahaha!

While CBN Lagos is 100m. Bhuuuhahaha! shocked grin

Does that solve it. grin

The Emporis link of Lagos that you provided gives total number of buildings in Lagos over 100m as 5 but you say Lagos has 8. The same link gives Nairobi's complete structures over 100m as 6 and you stick to it despite me giving you a more updated list. Where is your consistency?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 6:26pm On May 19, 2017
forgiveness:



1, This article ranks skyscrapers on the African continent by height. Initially, only a small number of major financial and commercial centers boasted large skylines, such as Lagos, Johannesburg, Nairobi, Harare and Abidjan. However, since the 2000s, skyscrapers have been constructed in many other African cities, including Cairo, Maputo, Abuja, Kampala, Cape Town, Durban, Addis Ababa, Dar es Salaam, Luanda and Port Louis.

Since 1973, the tallest skyscraper in Africa has been Johannesburg's Carlton Centre, which stands 223 metres (732 ft) tall. However, several taller buildings are proposed.


This list ranks African buildings that stand at least 100 m (328 ft) tall, based on standard height measurements by CTBUH. This includes spires and architectural details, but does not include antenna masts and minarets. Buildings over 150 m (492 ft) tall are highlighted.


Suffry Suffry lie. grin

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Africa

2, @bolded have been found wanting. LéMac Tower is 90m while KCB tower is 99m. grin
Snapshots confirmed I am correct. grin


3, As you can see from the snapshots, the blue color placed because confirmed they are still proposed projects. Bhuuuhahaha!

Okay. You win. Hass Tower is still proposed and only 212m high. Avic tower is still proposed and 176m high. Hass Tower 2 is only 137m tall and still proposed. UAP and Britam are still under construction. Happy now?
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 6:20pm On May 19, 2017
obaaderemi:
And I guess they told you in primary school Mombasa was founded in 70AD like your comrade I was replying stated? Shehe Mvita founded Mombasa as it is known.Btw,I got books on African history.


Okay buddy. After a few random google searches you now know about Mombasa more than we who live there. Clap for yourself.
Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 5:55pm On May 19, 2017
forgiveness:



1, we are not in stone age when people swallow lies without giving credible source. It is an era we can verify every single statement by pushing a key on phone. At a click your lies are exposed. grin

Sorry, the snapshot proved you just lied. A discerning mind can tell. grin

2, All the long list of these 'PROPOSED' buildings can't disapprove, Lagos has 8 completed skyscrapers while Kenya has 6 skyscrapers completed as Africa’s parameter is concerned. grin

3, Eko Atlantic City could have 1,200 skyscrapers if they are made real at minimum height of 100m. grin Sorry, your proparganda can't sell. grin

How are my lies exposed? How is you saying "Nairobi has only 6 skyscrapers" whilst I've listed 8 complete, 1 topped out and 9 under construction proving I'm lying? I gave you a list of 8 complete buildings over 100m in Nairobi - are the buildings I listed non existent? Please out of the 8 complete ones, one topped out and 9 under construction explain which one is imaginary.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by KarmaKill: 3:02pm On May 19, 2017
forgiveness:


If talk about Highrise, you will be slaughter by the numbers of highrise springing up left right and center in Nigeria, especially Lagos, Abuja and Port Harcourt. grin

I see you're avoiding my posts after I gave you all the facts. You Nigerian guys have a bad belief that you're the top in everything hence you never bother to look at the facts. We once did a list of cities with the highest towers over 20 floors in Africa on skyscrapercity and Lagos was nowhere. I can bet you Lagos will be lucky to be half of Nairobi in terms of high-rises too. Port Harcourt I doubt if there is a single high-rise in that city. Just like you're shocked with skyscrapers, towers over 100m so will you be with high-rises.

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