WinsomeX:


Now you are getting the point.

Tell me how many of Moses laws are left for Christians to obey today: all, some or non.

Paranthetically show me christians in the future kingdom and I will answer your queshuns

vooks:
Who/what is your master?

Yashua the son of joseph.

He is my master and I follow in his footsteps.

Unlike some dodgy fellows over here.

He also taught from the book of deutronomy[b] (Meaning reminder of the Law)[/b] more than any other book in the Torah.

We are trying our best to remind our brethren also of the first works.

Faith without works is dead.

WinsomeX:


I pity you. You haven't seen confusion. When the classes begin, then you will see confusion at its highest form.

As for the Maths, please do me the favor, show me where i or vooks were wrong and you will earn my apology on that; right away. I won't delay it like your Bayelsan Debtor, running everywhere looking for how to prove SirJohn wrong. I hope he finally finds a way of turning positive HIV to negative. You better advice him to pay up or his shame will not end on this forum.

SMh...

At least he is being honest and open.

Lawless son of a lawless father.

Scoffer.

WinsomeX:


Please don't get me wrong. Me and you are supposed to be on the same side now. The "bad" guys are the ones choosing what and what in Moses to obey. You believe Moses is whom Christians should follow; and I agree with you.

Now, let's do some Moses 101: which of the 613 laws of Moses must we still keep today sef? All or some??

Pls, everyone, grab your pen and paper and let's listen to a Modern Day Jew teach us "doctrine".

Scoffing only takes you deeper into hell.

Gombs:
MoshHigh.... you've got me confused though... slow it down.

My Apologies.

Zechariah 14:18 - And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith YAHWEH will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

WinsomeX:


In fact I must congratulate you for this. The very point I have been making too. That Bidam, Image, Gombs and the chief mesmerizer on this forum have not caught this Moses revelation enough. Their own stops at the "oily" tithes. Please provide them some updating classes, o thou Modern day Judaist!

My Master is a judaist as you put it. what are the ordinances of your own priesthood?

Very very very poor response, did you even read Zach14?

If its not pauline doctrine your heart cant function properly.

Ignorance is no excuse.

You have been warned.

WinsomeX:


I am saying that if after reading the NT, you still keep Moses then you have nor read your bible well.

(New testament) as you call is just a series of writings between brothers. The only revelation there is the book written by John.

If you could fly like an eagle you would have a more panoramic view.

Even Paul himself calls you to observe certain things but you chose to put that aside like the Lawless man.

Heathen simply means non-Isrealite. Does that make a Christian a heathen you tell me.
I
Zacharia 14 speaks of the the future mingdom of christ and at that time Isrealities will be observing the feast of tebarnacles, it also states clearly the heathen will also observe it by force or by fire.

Joker

Goshen360:


Yeah, Lawless because the Spirit of God in me was given to replace the laws. You're still confused up till date. When people do things by the Spirit which are also written in the law, does that mean it is the law they are following to do those things written in the law?

When people do things by (their) spirit which are also written in the law.

So your issues are with the written word AKA Christ?

As long as we don't refer to the written word it's ok.

Joker.

So you are now wiser than the Lord of heaven

Goshen360:


Just as he came to announce a NEW WAY to God APART FROM THE LAW.



He upheld the law in order to fulfill the law.



He taught the law in because that's the only thing they understood then and so that he can redeem those under the law. Why will he redeem them from under the law if they law was best for them? You're redeeming me from a good course? unto what? For what? Does that make sense to you at all?



No Apostle taught the keeping of the law when the revelation of the finished works was given to them. If you want to take us back to the law, you are fallen from Grace.

Dont be confused a mans way of life speaks more volumes than anything he says.

Can you look at the way they lived thier lives?

Its all written down you know.

Lawless children of the Lawless man.

Your master upheld to fufill and you choose not to follow suit.

Jokers.

WinsomeX:


Welcome o thou Chief Judaist.

Your disciples have been doing very badly defending Moses here. Unlike you, they want to keep the tithe but abolish the sabbath, circumcision and burnt offerings. I request you call them to order.

Tell them that if they must keep an aspect of Moses, they are indebted to keep the whole thing. Like you very lawfully do, o thou keeper of Moses.

Are you saying there is no part of the law which you keep?

Goshen360:


Yes, I am.....based on the truth of this scripture:

King James Bible
Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
1 Timothy 1:9

I am RIGHTEOUS MAN in Christ....Do you have problem with that?

2. If the Holy Spirit LEADS me, WHY SHOULD I STILL BE LED MY THE LAW?

Your professed master was lead by the Law.

He upheld the Law.

He taught the Law.

Same way with every last desciple and prophet since the beginning.

Which one you come dey?

The lawless man is called Lawless for a reason.

Goshen is proudly a Lawless Man

Gombs:
I'm gonna say this once...the Jerusalem council DID NOT cancel the out the necessity of circumcision and tithing. What they did was that they decided that Gentile converts to Christianity were not obligated to keep most of the Law of Moses, including the rules concerning circumcision of males.

Now, neither circumcision nor tithing has their inception in the Laws of Moses. And they were not obligated to keep most of the law because certain individuals came down from Judea and were teaching the brothers, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved " . The council was prompt to debunk that. Same as I have been schooling you that circumcision NEVER made one righteous. They never as you claimed said tithing and circumcision were not necessary, they said circumcision was not necessary for righteousness. Abraham was declared righteous by faith even before circumcision.

The Council did, however, retain the prohibitions on eating blood, meat containing blood, and meat of animals not properly slain, and on fornication and idolatry, sometimes referred to as the Apostolic Decree orJerusalem Quadrilateral.

As you can see from above, the Law was not completely abolished, a fact mba, Joagbaje me, bidam has been teaching here for ages. Goshen360 the confused grace preacher never seem to comprehend this.

His lack of comprehension is the Lords design.

For I shall separate the sheep from the goat.

spyder880: more

Nicee

Brimmie: www.nairaland.com/attachments/1461112_ChrisOkotie_jpg5911d6b664ab7924ede91e7b23b0ea55

Christianity taken to another level by
"Kris Okotie" self-styled "Pastor" former Hip-Hop Artist, now with Gun-totting armed guards with bullet proof vests & probably AK-4/ guarding him in his Church, while he's preaching the word of God?

So God of Men are not safe, in the Lords Temple?

I wonder what he is scared of?

His ex-wife attacking him with acid or agrieved staffs with unpaid salary?

Maybe, the catholics he has condemned to Hell would want a piece of him on earth before the After Life?

Real God of Men!

Woe! Woe! Woe!

At a glance one can now see who the false prophets truly and really serve.

The beast...the political arm of Satan.

The Gun man - he resolves all his conflicts ultimately by the gun and through violence

obadiah777: i dont speak in tongues

Kaylize76:

You cant touch me

TPB ! Wassup wit you girl.

Lang lang time.

oga spyder,
Reporting to class,not to sound ignorant o, why u use 4 courses of block for foundation? is it to make it stronger

sandijey:

What can't be?

TPB is that you??

Alfa Seltzer:

In the face of abject display of total lack of brain function from your disciple, one can only scoff.

Scoffer be Only good for one thing, that is to scoff.

sandijey:

Ogh my days! Lol. I am who I am............

It cant be.....

Kaylize76: Erm to those who believe Obadiah is a myso-chavo-psycho... He is just saying the truth of the matter...

Now lets push religion aside


There was a time when the man was REALLY the breadwinner and I mean 100% and the woman was the care taker of the house I think that was before the 1930 depression...everything was going smoothly and society was running well, you see happy families, responsible kids(omoluabi proper)... until capitalism started b!2tching about and then one person couldn't sustain the home due to the crippled state of the economy

Guess what happened after that?

Divorce rates skyrocketed
WASTAGE became the main order of the day (because there was two sources now)
Laziness
Education became sh78tty (schools now a days teach you how to be a zombie to a capitalist and how to not ask questions when you b90tt is on fire
Society started becoming chaotic.
With no one to teach the kids properly apart from strangers who don't give a dammmnnnn!!! about you, children were left to their own devices...from being idle to being useless in terms of skills and knowledge
and this is just 12% of the whole matter.
And since women could be extremely self-sufficient and to be honest, it always leads to my next statement, they found no need for a male partner and started gravitating towards females....that were either like them or were mentally or emotionally weak due to the fact that they needed to quench their thirst for control and domination...

Now back to religion

This juts shows that the devil knew what he was doing. The family is an important, if not the most important part of the society and he knew that. In order to turn society upside down, all he needed to do was to take the woman out of the house.

There is nothing wrong with what Obadiah said.

Explicit and concise.

A fatal blow to dem scoffers.

Ishilove: Sister Sandy, you never see situation wey fear you. If you have, no one will teach how to pray Elijah style kind of prayers. The kind of prayers that Paul and Silas. Prayers that shook the heavens and rent the dungeons open, do you think they were 'gentlemanly' prayers? The kingdom of God suffereth violence and the violenth taketh by force. When faced with certain situations, you pray with holy aggression, holy madness, with the spirit of 'enough is enough'.

I have been in those kinds of situations and MFM is the best thing that has ever happened to me. It was when I started praying those prayers you call 'big big grammar' that my eyes opened and my life changed forever. Back in those days, I would spend 3 to 4 hours at night blasting the heavens and the wicked ones would be in their hiding places quaking with fear. I dreamt dreams and saw visions. Ancient and hidden family secrets were revealed. I used to have chronic ulcer, but when I began to participate in the dry fasts, the ulcer disappeared forever.

Those were the days!!

Feel free to scoff at those big big grammar prayers, y'all, but the day you will need 'em, you will understand why we pray the way we do in MFM.

And do not use vain repitions as the manner of some IS (present continuous)

Yashua in all his wisdom knew that even long after he had passed by the heathens would still be doing this abominable thing.

Thinking that it was by thier much speak.....

Instead of the intentions of the heart.

Alfa Seltzer: obadiah, for some reason, we don't care what yahweh wants and we turn out just fine. shows that yahweh is just powerless and just claims that my success is his wish when I constantly disobey and mock him.

Satanic doctrines.

Did you create yaself?

Do you know what hour you will leave this realm

Meanwhile The most high has been jamming since the beginning of time, and here his children are still revealing to you his great works

Whose is like unto the most high God?

NONE!!!

Alfa Seltzer:

You need leadership where there is uniformity. There is nothing uniform between me and my wife. We are complemantary. I do things I can do. She does things she can do. No hierarchy. No conflict of interest. We don't even worship the same person.

ok now.

Alfa Seltzer:

Well, my family is neither a country nor a ship. Let us not confuse things. There is no such thing as a head or leader or what have you. It is not a military camp nor a business venture. It is a unity of love and there is no hierarchy in love.

Ever seen a unity with no leadership?

Please reveal to us the origin of this your uniqe creation.

Alfa Seltzer:

It's a manner of speech. Anyway something is keeping them together and it sure ain't those godly verses you guys spit around here.

Nothing wrong with Godly verses, they manifest in every culture and everywhere in creation and are a profound well of wisdom.

Satanic verses on the other hand tend to stimulate the devil complex.

We know the God like verses are supirior.

Alfa Seltzer:

Well, my family is neither a country nor a ship. Let us not confuse things. There is no such thing as a head or leader or what have you. It is not a military camp nor a business venture. It is a unity of love and there is no hierarchy in love.

You beginning to sound like jesus jones

or is it A crowley

or maybe even charlie manson

These men shared you views with startling accuracy.

Just saying, and see how they all ended up

David leary said lets all just love, love, love.But never did he ever mention a higher power in the equation.

You Mr man are on the same track unfortunatley.

Alfa Seltzer:

I'm sure she and her husband take care of each other which must be making yahweh go beserk.

You must be her husband then, since you are so sure.

Alfa Seltzer: A woman is in charge of Germany. Must make your god very angry. Things not working to plan for him in that great country.

Poor logic.

A woman in charge of germany doese not automatically make the woman a man

Are you with her behind closed doors when she is with her man??

Jokes.

Alfa Seltzer:

Yes, consequences for the poor souls duped out of their hard earned money with a few quotes from an old book.

You forgot to add the curses that follow those that collect such sums.

Read math 23 yashua at his most violent. he made some utteraces and proclaimed some curses on fellows that deal in such.