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Religion / France Moves Closer To Banning Full Muslim Veil by MrIbu1: 11:28am On Jan 16, 2010 |
LA VERRIERE, France – The man she married is French, her four children were born in France and she speaks French with only a trace of her native Arabic tongue. Faiza Silmi contends her clothes — a head-to-toe robe and filmy tissue covering her face — are the reason France has denied her citizenship in her adopted land. The 32-year-old Moroccan may soon be facing an even fiercer blow. A top French lawmaker submitted a draft law this week that would ban such Islamic dress anywhere in public, a measure that would set a European precedent and trap thousands of women between their religious convictions and the law of the land. "They say I'm too attached to my religion," Silmi told The Associated Press at an empty restaurant near her home southwest of Paris, her large eyes peering from a slit in her veil. "Lots of Christians live in Morocco and we don't make them wear scarves." Unlike Muslim headscarves, full-body, face-covering robes are a rare sight in the streets of France, home to an estimated 5 million Muslims, the largest such population in western Europe. France's main Muslim leaders have declared that Islam does not require women to cover their faces with niqabs or burqas. In a country whose national emblem is Marianne, a bare-chested woman, there is deepening concern over the all-encompassing garb, often black or brown and worn with gloves, attire typical in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states. Here, it is widely viewed as a gateway to radical Islam, an attack on gender equality and other French values, and a gnawing away at the nation's secular foundation. President Nicolas Sarkozy opened the door to a possible ban in June, telling a parliament session in Versailles that such dress "is not welcome" in France. A parliamentary panel set to work in July on a six-month mission gathering information on the garments. On Tuesday, the head of Sarkozy's conservative UMP party in parliament's lower house, Jean-Francois Cope, jumped the gun before the panel's report was finished, and filed draft legislation on a ban. "No one may, in spaces open to the public and on public streets, wear a garment or an accessory that has the effect of hiding the face," the draft text reads. The document cites public security concerns, thus includes all face-covering clothes, in a bid to head off challenges from those who might claim such a law would violate constitutional rules on individual rights — a major concern along with how such a law would be enforced. It foresees fines for those who break the law. The initiative, unlikely to go to debate before spring, would be the second time France targets Muslim dress. A 2004 law born in acrimony bans Muslim headscarves and other "ostentatious" religious symbols in the classrooms of French public schools. Sarkozy's party dominates parliament and the president reiterated Wednesday his wish for a law on full veils, though it's too early to say whether it will pass. Europe's growing Muslim population has bred tension across the continent. Wariness is pervasive since deadly attacks in Madrid in 2004 and in London in 2005 by Islamic radicals living in Europe. And some non-Muslims sense a threat by a foreign culture to their way of life. It took only four minarets on Switzerland's 200 mosques to push the Swiss to vote "no" to minarets in a November referendum. However, France, which wants an Islam tailored to the West, would be the only western European country to target the all-enveloping robes and niqabs, the cloth hiding the lower face. "We're going to become the laughing stock of democracies" should France ban the clothing, said Raphael Liogier, a sociology professor who runs the Observatory of the Religious in Aix-en-Provence. He is among critics who say a ban would be a violation of basic rights and "transgression of the fundamental principles of our republic." Muslim leaders of all tendencies have warned that a ban risks stigmatizing all Muslims, and anti-terrorism judge Marc Trevidic told Sunday's Journal du Dimanche that a ban "will maybe push impulsive people to want to commit attacks." However, Andre Gerin, who heads the parliamentary panel, says the full-body veil is an "attempt to instrumentalize Islam for political ends" via a "fundamentalist and barbaric ideology" that oppresses women. Gerin, a communist who served for years as mayor of Venissieux, a suburb of Lyon known as a haunt for Muslim fundamentalists, insists the phenomenon is growing. But at Friday prayers recently at a mosque northwest of Paris in Argenteuil, considered a bastion for Salafists who adopt a literal reading of the Quran, only a handful of fully veiled women were seen. Some expressed fear of a ban. "We won't be able to leave the house," said Oumeima Naceri, a 19-year-old convert draped in black garments, including a filmy "sitar" veil covering even her eyes. "That frightens us enormously , It's like asking us to go naked." Official statistics on burqas are impossible to gather. A 2004 report by a French intelligence service put the number of women in full veils at some 4,000. More than a quarter had converted to Islam, some experts estimate. Silmi, the Moroccan woman seeking French citizenship, began veiling herself completely only after coming to France in 2000. She said she and her husband Karim, who was born in Paris to Moroccan parents and has French citizenship, discovered a deepening of their faith through books and cassette recordings not available in Morocco. She insists her partner did not impose the veil on her — and says she is in the process of divorcing him after 10 years of marriage. Silmi was refused French citizenship for what authorities said was her failure to assimilate into French culture. Assimilation is most often defined by a candidate's ability to speak French, though not in her case. In each of three reports following interviews with Silmi, officials described her clothing. Her pro bono lawyer, Ronald Sokol, an American living in France, said that is what kept her from becoming French. Silmi lost an appeal to the Council of State, in June 2008, which ruled that she "adopted a radical religious practice incompatible with essential values of the French community." She has now turned to the European Court of Human Rights. "A woman must cover herself. It's writtem in the Quran," Silmi told AP. Lawmaker Daniele Hoffman-Rispal, member of the parliamentary panel, said she sees women clad in all-encompassing robes on market days in her district in eastern Paris and is bothered that "they have a right to look at me , see my eyes, my smile" but she cannot look at them. But if a ban were passed, "Will we hire dozens of police to put them on street corners?" she asks. She worries, too, about women who could become shut-ins to avoid getting caught. As for Silmi, she said she will consult a Muslim sage on the Internet about what to do should a legal ban be passed. "If he tells me not to remove my veil, I prefer to return to Morocco" rather than break French law, she said http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100115/ap_on_re_eu/eu_france_forbidding_the_veil |
Romance / Re: How Should I Play The Game? by MrIbu1: 1:31pm On Jan 15, 2010 |
well bros u should have ask peoples opinion b4 calling her in the first place, If i where u i will tell her that i made a mistake on the number i wanted to call, then after hearing her voice that u would want to know more simple. but u have already call her by her name |
Romance / Re: A Virgin Girl Friend Disvirgined Be Another Guy by MrIbu1: 12:24pm On Jan 15, 2010 |
once a cheater is always a cheater, how are u sure is her ex boy friend ? |
Romance / Re: A Virgin Girl Friend Disvirgined Be Another Guy by MrIbu1: 12:17pm On Jan 15, 2010 |
I agree with the first poster =toliamy old friend my foot, where has the old friend been all this while just take share of ur own cake |
Romance / Re: I Am Afraid Of Being 30 And Still Unmarried by MrIbu1: 11:31am On Nov 22, 2009 |
Dont be afraid my dear but if you dont mind i will like to be your friend and i believe things will work out well if are ready tell me so that i will mail you my full info. |
Nairaland / General / To The Moderators Why my Posts Keep Mising ? by MrIbu1: 12:40pm On Nov 18, 2009 |
to the moderators why post keep mising, i just wondering what is the matter |
Travel / Re: Is It Possible For Some One To Change His Surname Name by MrIbu1: 4:42pm On Nov 17, 2009 |
No this is his first time of having international passport, and the reason is that he dont his surname, is not prounceble and all that |
Travel / Is It Possible For Some One To Change His Surname Name by MrIbu1: 4:32pm On Nov 17, 2009 |
i just want to know becos a friend of mine told me that he want to travels outside nigeria and he want to change his surname in the passport that he does not like it |
Family / Is It Possible For Some One To Change His Surname Name by MrIbu1: 4:30pm On Nov 17, 2009 |
i just want to know becos a friend of mine told me that he want to travels outside nigeria and he want to change his surname in the passport that he does not like it |
Romance / Re: I Dont Believe In Lone Any More? by MrIbu1: 11:24pm On Nov 13, 2009 |
@190 and FG O1 what is the Bleep with u guys, did igbo girls force you to date them, watch your back nonsens |
Romance / Re: 53 Ways To Make A Woman Happy by MrIbu1: 1:13pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
@nwaka_80 Are u trying to tell me that i dont suppose to be here ? This ur name self are u a midget or better still a dwaft. |
Nairaland / General / Re: Am Back Where Are My Fans by MrIbu1: 1:09pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
@sexyZee i know say dis ma fake mr ibu Do u need confirmation and refrence |
Nairaland / General / Re: Am Back Where Are My Fans by MrIbu1: 1:05pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
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Nairaland / General / Re: Am Back Where Are My Fans by MrIbu1: 1:01pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
@sexyLeamon I know I'm Cute, I know i'm sexy. I don't need to be told!!! Are u sure!!! |
Nairaland / General / Re: Am Back Where Are My Fans by MrIbu1: 12:51pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
You again 190 or Vboot what u call your self, mind u if not i will tell S.Z to turn down on u. |
Romance / Re: 53 Ways To Make A Woman Happy by MrIbu1: 12:41pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
But the reverse is the case |
Nairaland / General / Re: Am Back Where Are My Fans by MrIbu1: 12:21pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
My fans knows there self, i guess u are 1 of them |
Romance / 53 Ways To Make A Woman Happy by MrIbu1: 12:05pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
How to Make a Woman Happy It's not difficult to make a woman happy. A guy only needs to be: 1. a friend 2. a companion 3. a lover 4. a brother 5. a father 6. a master 7. a chef 8. an electrician 9. a carpenter 10. a plumber 11. a mechanic 12. a decorator 13. a stylist 14. a phsiotherapist 15. a gynaecologist 16. a psychologist 17. a pest exterminator 18. a psychiatrist 19. a healer 20. a good listener 21. an organizer 22. a good father 23. very clean 24, sympathetic 25. athletic 26. warm 27. attentive 28. gallant 29. intelligent 30. funny 31. creative 32. tender 33. strong 34. understanding 35. tolerant 36. prudent 37. ambitious 38. capable 39. courageous 40. determined 41. true 42. dependable 43. passionate 44. compassionate WITHOUT FORGETTING TO: 45. give her compliments regularly 46. love shopping 47. be honest 48. be very rich 49. not stress her out 50. not look at other girls AND AT THE SAME TIME, YOU MUST ALSO: 51. give her lots of attention, but expect little yourself 52. give her lots of time, especially time for herself IT IS VERY IMPORTANT: 54. Never to forget: * birthdays * anniversaries * arrangements she makes |
Nairaland / General / Am Back Where Are My Fans by MrIbu1: 12:00pm On Nov 12, 2009 |
Hello NL am back to naija after a long time, so what is new |
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