boyestick:
Please house,electric oven or gas oven which is one is better for personal use ?

It depends.
If power is not an issue, electric is better (especially, the fan oven). Typically consumes 2kW - 3kW which most average generator struggle with.
If power is an issue, gas is better.

Freshre:
come this woman everytime you be having one problem or other with people in this section wetin dey do u self? Hope you are mental OK? You should desist from working for this woman if you want to have peace of mind.. Nawa oooo

Did you register just for episodes like this.
22nd August, is just 2 days ago.

PAPAFEELERS:
Good day All and trust your day is progressing well.

Please what can one add to a soakway to douse the odor emanating from it? the soakaway is not full just to make it clear but the odor comes out from the vent ontop of the soakaway.

I am wondering if there are chemicals or freshners that can be placed in the soakaway or vent to douse the order?

We learn everyday and the knowledge shared will be beneficial to the society.

Cc: NEXT, Spyder,Rottech, abdulswastexc,Egunsbaba,Twinskenny,Gbadexy

U trap is what you need to insert. I'll share a picture later in the evening. It's something similar to what happens at WC where odour can't pass through the water.

Edit: ignore. On re-reading it's clear the odour is outside and not inside the building. The solution I proposed is for indoor odour.
Raise the pipe very high as suggested. Methane and other constituents is lighter than air and would not come down when released at a higher height.

n3xt:
Madam Eyinne, abeg please kindly let us find a way to resolve this issue.

The contractor had no intention to defraud you. This is a simple case of business misunderstanding and his misinterpretation of your complaints as a personal attack when it’s very unnecessary.

I’ve been there before so I know how it works.

Abeg, my sister! Pls allow peace to reign.

As a matter of fact, it was this your eye-opening complaint that made me to go and measure all the doors (local, foreign, wooden, steel, Turkey, 5ft, 3ft etc) in my house.

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@michilins the best thing to do now is to keep your cool and try to see things from the clients perspective.

Pls don’t assume that your brilliance was not being recognized. Try to see how your proactiveness, genuine help and smartness is not doing what you wanted them to; rather than add clarity, they added confusion.

The pros here know you’re not wrong but how do we explain this to an already aggrieved client without sounding insensitive.

It takes tact and diplomacy.

I’d advice you to stop responding to every comment on this matter and start looking for a way to get this matter resolved to the clients satisfaction.

God bless you!

Well said.
Nothing to add.

Assumption can either make or mar you. Get it right and you'll be praise to high heavens; get it wrong and you'll be labeled names.

That's how it is done everywhere is not tenable. People want to go outside the box. Hauling insults when mistake is made is not a way forward.

I asked someone to do electrical piping for me. Even after I explained everything that I don't intend to use external changeover switch (that I have an DIN type I want to use in the DB and so every pipe should terminate in the DB), the contractor still went ahead and create the usual external changeover type. When I enquire he said he couldn't fathom how possible I could realise my dream, that he doesn't want to spoil his work. Of course, I was furious as the walls had already been plastered. His apology doused the tension. Breaking would have cost me more money so I had to make some adjustment and adapt. It's always very painful when what you get is not what you ordered for.

@michilin, you may feel that you took the right decision and that you're right. Service delivery goes beyond contract signing (agreement), to delivery and customers satisfaction. Without the bolded, you loose referrals.

If you and your client are willing, you can resolve this amicably. Put a call across; show empathy.

twinskenny:


Coiling the cable that way is wrong according to one of my oga who has been doing this for a long long time….

Attached are the reasons

That would be true if customers are charged in kVA. But customers are charged in kW, so its irrelevant.

The only downside is that you will need higher current to power same load when coiled than when not coiled. Because of increase current, more heat would also be generated in the enclosure. Even at that the coil would have to be substantial to cause much inductance at 50hz frequency.

During lightening however, induced current can be very high in that length of wire and can increase potential for sensitive equipment damage.

gbadexy:
In other news, in a bid to give premium finish to houses, I've invested in tools as advised severally for business owners by our erudite contributors here.
We can apply primer to smoothen a plaster surface with electric paint spraying machine.
We have electric wall sanders to give smooth finish and we apply premium emulsion, matte and satin with spraying machines to give a very smooth finish that only spraying could give.
Here is a link to the thread with the facebook link to the video demonstration:

https://www.nairaland.com/6710667/spray-application-primer-wall-paints

Well done boss. Nothing can be compared to automation. Now you can focus more in getting deals instead of on how the work will be done.

TMT post at https://www.kobocity.com/blog/235-top-5-artificial-intelligence-applications-in-construction is closely related.

Someday I'll be able to afford your service.

yungmin:


The person simply asked what a 12 X 12 room is in SQM. He didn't say he wanted wall area of something else. He wanted the area in SQM. @gbadexy's was the one who made assumptions.

You missed the message trail. He was referring to total area to be painted for a room of that size.
Edit: so you were the one who made wrong assumption.

The calculation you quoted is wrong. The one you quoted is for floor area while Gbadexy's is for wall area.

Edit: [s]Please take note and render apology accordingly.[/s]
Already pointed out.

InvertedHammer:


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Imagine the discrepancies in Gbadexy's calculations in elementary mathematics.

54m - 32.76m = 21.24m (over-quotation is almost double the actual size).

This is how they overbill unsuspecting clients.

It is sad coming from an experienced contractor.

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gbadexy:

Matte, satin and silk sir.

Between satin and silk, which will you recommend and why? Can dirt be easily wiped off from both?

gbadexy:

Regal paint sir.

OK boss.
What's the price of your satin paint (a drum - 20 ltrs) and how many square meters can one drum cover (screeded wall)?

Dark mode revamped. Head to https://www.kobocity.com and register.
After registering, to switch to dark mode, go to profile and select dark mode.

siralos135:


I used Gbadexy paint in my new build.His paint is a major highpoint of my house.Just a simple wash with soap removes any stain(even marker stains) without the paint loosing it's shine.
I recommend Gbadexy's paint 100%

What's the name of the paint.

House electrical wiring and safety is one area most home owners often do not give much attention. This discussion here is eye-opening:
https://www.kobocity.com/d/197-electrical-wiring-what-you-should-know-before-building

michlins:
one told me that I must grease his hands if I want to work in one site like that.


Made a supply and he told oga I used inferior materials. I want die. Fear religious knucklehead

That's the product of 'we are saved by His grace alone and not by our deeds'. Christians are erroneously made to believe that doing good/bad is of no consequence so long as you accept christ. Humanity is thrown to the wind.

sonnie10:


In the future, when people grow old and are wheel chair bound or use some sort of mobility aid, how do they navigate this step down design?

Reason why I dont fancy it.
When I relocated from from one place to another, that's how I was still climbing non existent step for some days.

Agreement not kept
Trust breached
Reputation damaged
Reparation not done
Loyalty/customer lost
Referral lost

How do we hope to grow our business if we continue like this
What's our business plan and goal
I feel more comfortable dealing with a foreigner than dealing with my country men

BiigTee:
Sitting on the German floor

German floor is not for load bearing. I think it should have been dug and a proper footing done. Still, I'm not a structural engineer; this is just my opinion.

FreeConCiencE:

What is the implication of this?

If the load is much on it, the floor may go down

bobkezel:
Good evening House, pls which would you advise...
Elevated dining room or dining room same level with the sitting room...

Depends on individual choices. Some prefer elevated dining. Personally, I prefer a level ground all over the house so long as the topography of the compound permits.

gbadexy:

Exactly sir. Same with the finance minister.

With oil above $50 and with restriction of $100 per an account holder, there's no reason why importers/manufacturers should be starved of FX. And there's no excuse for inability to maintain a stable exchange rate.

Is there a foundation for the introduced column or it's siting on your German floor?

BiigTee:
Yes

1. True to ur words.. The engineer working there introduced 2 new columns directly beneath the dining which is the most affected area..
2. The whole decking wasn't recast upto 10" thickness.. Only certain portions were to correct the sloping and level up the decking. The thickness of the recasting varied from 3-10 inches.

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This is a dilemma @Bigtee will suffer. It is a vicious circle. 99% of any Nigerian engineer that enters that site will find something to do "better". It might just be a case of good money chasing after bad.

I think before @Bigtee deleted his many posts, there was somewhere he said that the correcting engineer introduce a Rolling Steel Joist (RSJ) steel beam underneath the decking and with a corresponding photo as well. I think the RSJ steel beam should compensate for the extra load. With the introduction of the RSJ steel beam, gave me some confidence the correcting engineer probably know what they are doing.

Regarding load management for the upper floor, I will use 6" or even 5" hollow blocks. But then, I'm not a structural engineer.

GoodFaith:



You People grouping to together for BS
Why did you think he/she is here to intimidate?
Lots of fuckers here playing games
There are different type 419 and Yahoo-- Nairaland should not ne use for games
Anyway We Nigerians don't like doing thing the right way-- it's all about Nigeria
Nigeria is a dead country and buried 60 FT under

Because the account was registered for the purpose of the issue at hand.
1) first post: it quoted spyder880 and changed what was quoted
2) second post: he claimed having a contract to give the accused.

Edit: I may not be accurate most times in my argument but I try to think rationally.

Before we crucify the contractor:
We should investigate the cause of the vibration while we hold the contractor for the sloping deck.

Making him to refund for what is not his fault would not satisfy law of justice. He should only refund to the extent to which he is liable.

Is the vibration caused by poor workmanship(eg poor concrete mix ratio)?
Or inaccurate structural drawing? Or poor quality material?

GlassHearts:



Wow I can't believe this and to think my Inlaw and I almost called his number after recommendation from an associate.. But I said no let me come and investigate this Rotech on nairaland. Wow! This is unfair.Imagine putting my structure in LEKKI ajah in his hands and he won't be accountable for any issues.
Please he needs to reimburse at least half of the. 1.2 million before I will ever consider him that will justify he's an honest business man.
Kindly let us know on this platform how it goes it will really help.
Sorry again sir.
Oga ooooo!

You just registered, oga.
Are you trying to intimidate him into refunding more than he's liable for?

BiigTee:
I would have shared in ur opinion if I didn't go there personally and see depth of the problem first hand.. I went to he site.. Stood on the decking at point A. The engineer walked and took a little jump on point B and the whole decking bounced! I was even scared for myself! If not that the engineer was well grounded in the field he would have ended his contract there and then! As that wasn't initially what he was paid to do! He was paid to supervise block work, lintel and parapet works..

After the cost of corrections done over there.. I can't even afford to do parapet again.. As funds budgeted have been largely depleted on corrections!.

The engineer in question didn't charge a penny extra on his professional fees for the corrections he did as he knew that the issue was unforseen and already costing alot! I bought all the materials myself! So he the engineer didn't gain anything from pointing out an obvious issue!

To be candid and blunt, I think the new engineer con you. He capitalized on your fear.
That building footprint doesn't need what he did, especially when the structural drawing was followed. Except the structural drawing was incorrect.

It doesn't look like any beam spans more than 4m.

Edit: this is not to say that there was no error in levelling.

n3xt:


Who recommended this solution?

I think 10 inches thick concrete is just too much load on the structure regardless of the justification the engineer might have given.

Sorry for this error.

________

A simple fix for such issue is just to section the slab after confirming that the as-built design of the slab conform with structural design requirement.

I was about saying this same thing but since I'm not a professional, I decided to keep quiet.
Hope the columns are strong enough to bear that load.
Let it not a case of 'the thing I feared is now happening to me'.

rotecch77:
Good evening all.

My comment here is to say noting but the truth and to all of us both client and contractor, if you do bad and expect good reward it’s a joke you can’t get such,
If you do good and people are ready to paint you bad.... don’t worry your good did will fight for you, I understand that nobody is perfect but we still have good people’s in this world

. Let’s go to the issue at hand now.

@ bigitie contacted us here as others clients do to handle a slab ( decking) work for him in ogun state which both of us agreed.

We are to handle cost of LABOR and SUPERVISION ONLY.NO MATERIALS

Material
The client bought ALL the MATERIALS himself, even when he bought at high rate, it took me and my project manager to went round with him for a whole day to get the remaining materials at good rate in his present and he paid for such and they delivered it to site for him.

Omonile wahala
Hmmm, we almost lost a worker to omolenile, they came to site to stop us 3 diff times with GUN, MATCHES and JUJU, Infact it’s terrible experience.
The day we are casting the client was there with us ( my workers, site supervisor, project manager) that day the client also was TOTALLY CONFUSED he didn’t know what to do again. The omonile deal with my workers seriously and they took money again from us.
This drama lasted for like 3hours, haaaaa omonile hmmm it’s not good ooo. We see segeee dat day.

The slab
The client provides structural design which we follow accordingly without missing any part, ( pics attached)

The stair way
The issue of omonile delayed the casting and we finished the work at night around 9pm with touch light ( at the process ONLY ONE of the RISER plank break ( simple cutting off when-ready to tile the stir) not an issue )


Slab Slope
As you all know the Last level is where to follow while preparing your slab beam which we did after himself and I with others worker checked the building height ( unfortunately nobody sense the buildings height is slightly diff in height by 6” in one side )
We did the formwork we put the reinforcements and he came to check it and he was there the day we casted it.


Last and current issue
@bigitie called me last Sunday that the decking is bouncing in sittingroom area, I said its not possible we did what we supposed to do and you saw it then, he now said another engr as take over the upper structure job ( bcs we don’t agree on price about this upper floor) so I said May be they loaded much block on a sport there, later he said the new man will take care of that.
Later he said the building slope I said my site man will come on 3days time to check ( tue - wed)
But my site man couldn’t make it until 4 days after ( today) they check round with the new man and himself and FOuND OUT THAT ITS 5” or so in slope In ONE side only due to POOR FOUNDATION they did for him with NON accurate block Height which the NEW ENGr that handle the new job also told him in the present of my site supervisor that went there to check. The issue .



Bum bigtie said he will come to public
To publish my name and my workers name.

Well if you do good .., good things shall follow you.

Thank you all

What's the slab dimension for the part he said is bouncing?

BiigTee:
Bottomline is Rotech77 casted a decking that's vibrating.. Made a mockery of a staircase and still went on to frame a decking that slopes by a whole 10 inches in some areas.. Yet he sees absolutely nothing wrong in the job he did.. Offered zero compensations despite my spending over 1.2m to recast and reinforce a decking that was cast by someone who claims to be a professional.. The next few images show the extent of correction made!

The flight of this stairs is too long. While it looks nice, it functionally not okay. It would be tiring for kids to climb.

pussiboner:


You can ignore me Boss, I won't ignore you sir.

If your intention is to win the guy over to kobocity, then think again. The unrepentant uncouth dude would ruin the small reputation you have.

I don't work with assumptions. I'm more concern with creating a working system. People naturally gravitate towards a working system. Society/upbringing gives birth to the quoted; no one is born that way.

Does the presence of a few bad people make a society bad? Has NL reputation been ruined?

I've ignored one moniker that starts with p and end with r

Stanley000 you would have just given him a hand sketch if you felt the other drawing wasn't okay (especially as another professional was already working on his brief). That's how to genuinely help.

The was to salvage this is to give him a working drawing that meets his taste. I and my architect have done several corrections before we settle for one. As a professional, I believe that won't take you time to do. For the honour of your profession, please take that step and give him what he'll be proud to work with.

Kentucky404:



Read from here : https://www.nairaland.com/2550211/general-topic-thread-to-discuss-anything/2224#102150802 to the latest page

KelvinCoaster:

Hey bro,
you don't need to drag this matter further!
Stanley000 has registered his name in NL Hall of shame(n3xt).
No need helping him!

Does that mean samoranononi should count his loss and move on as he's not satisfied with the drawing? Or are you willing to pay him back?