Lamakinde:
I got my citizenship approved yesterday the 6th of March 2023 and called my council today who booked me in for ceremony next week Thursday 16th of March 2023. I had my biometric done on the 18th of January 2023 despite booking immediately after Indefinite to remain decision on the 18th of of December 2022.
Timeline
ILR - Biometric (Super priority)- 18/12/23
Indefinte to remain decision - 19/12/23
Citizenship application- 20/12/23
Citizenship Biometric - 18/01/23
Citizenship Approval - 06/03/23
Called Council to book ceremony - 07/03/23
Ceremony date by Council - 16/03/23

Duration of Citizenship approval -1 month 2wks.

Thanks everyone for all the support since this journey started in 2017 July/August for first Application.

Hello, please did you wait for your ILR BRP to arrive before applying for naturalisation or was the email confirming it was successful enough?

oxygyne:


Wao, feel for you.

This application has caused you a lot of pain and money loss including wedding deposit?? Damn!!. You have tried but thank goodness it came out at the end. To think all these just for the fiance visa, imagine!!.

Stay strong, get well soon and I pray it only gets better from here on out.

With the benefit of hindsight, you should have done priority considering you had made wedding plans already but I guess no one would have thought the process would take that long.

In our case, we had our registry wedding in January but scheduled and planned our white wedding for July (deposits made, date set and invites sent out). Submitted priority application in March and got the visa in April *phewwww* but I must confess, the anticipation was stressful so I would advise anyone to make application and get the visa before making concrete plans about wedding in UK.

Once again, so sorry for what you've been through..relax and follow you hubby back to the UK.

Thank you so much for your kind words. Exactly, I kept kicking myself for not doing priority and we could afford it too but I thought it would be enough time. Awww, Congratulations on your wedding.
I’m not looking forward to the next application but at least I’ll be doing that within the UK. I’m just focusing on my recovery for now.

Lexusgs430:



Congratulations......

On a lighter note, are you sure it's not the email arriving that ruptured your appendix? Some emails can easily carry heavy weight on the heart, appendix + liver.......

Lool! I guess we will never know, I’m just happy the situation didn’t get any worse

Hello everyone,
I found out this thread a few days after my application but still read every single page.


Type : settlement fiancé visa
Priority : No
Date of application : 17/03/2018
Biometrics : 21/03/2018
Documents sent : 31/03/2018
Documents received email: 13/04/2018
Application not straightforward : 14/06/2018
Email requesting payment of IHS Fee : 25/06/2018 (payment done immediately)
Escalation by MP : 18/07/2018
Escalation by email 1 : 19/07/2018
Escalation by phone call : 25/07/2018
Escalation by email 2 : 09/08/2018
Escalation by email 3 : 17/08/2018
MP reply confirming visa approved : 21/08/2018
Decision made : 23/08/2018
Ready for collection : 24/08/2018
Passport picked : 03/09/2018
Visa dated from : 21/08/2018 - 21/02/2019

A few things to note,
1. I applied for a fiancé visa for my wedding on 01/09/2018. I didn’t have to pay for the IHS as this visa is only for 6 months and I would have switched to a spouse visa after marriage. We had put down wedding deposits for a venue, caterer, etc. Due to the delay, we lost almost £6k in deposits because our wedding insurance couldn’t cover everything.
2. We did our traditional wedding in June in Lagos and My greatest regret was not just going to the registry and going for full spouse visa but I thought it was the most straightforward application.
3. 4 different guests who used our wedding IV cards for their visa application as proof of purpose of visits all had their visas way before mine.
4. A few hours after the email to collect my passport, I fainted and needed emergency surgery as I had a ruptured appendix that previously gave no symptoms. My husband had to come 2 days after and he’s still with me.
5. I’ll end up going back to the UK at the end of the month or whenever I’m stronger.

papoudaupolos:

Wit ur short limbs and chubby nature , it's obvious u are the ones built for manual wahala or husler as u are calling it.the nonsense they are teaching u in schools doesn't mean a crap to us.u r jus learning an English to serve better.

No offence but you really need to go back to school

m.

JMAN05:


No, you are the one that spoke falsehood. Since you are so proud to admit your mistake, I ll have to rub it on ur face. All this while you go and quote where you got what you said, why haven't you done the same for this ? You know there is no way to prove the falsehood. You said the verses had been there for 52yrs. So show me how it was there all these for 52yrs. By now you should have giving a link. Admit you were wrong, pride won't allow you.

Give answer to this question and stop running. Whether you take in Indian hemp through the mouth or infuse it, haven't you done the same thing? Food can be eaten or infused, do you disagree? (What is hard in this if not that you don't want to face the truth?)

You're just grasping at the straws now and its so disappointing but I'm not surprised. Like I said, I asked you a question on the 3rd of November and I'm going to ask you the question again for the umpteenth time, I'll even quote how I wrote it more than a week ago

"The bible said do not eat blood. The same leviticus speculates death for adultery, so why don't you kill your members that commit adultery? So now bible laws is not black and white anymore, it's now principles? So answer this please, what principle said you can take blood fractions?"

It's been 11 days since I asked you that question and you haven't given me an answer but you come back days later asking me about indian hemp. Why can't you answer the question? How hard is it? are you not a fraud for trying to deflect the question? After all, it's something your church said you can do.
So why can't you defend your beliefs? Why can't you explain a simple question about your doctrines? You think by asking a question without answering the one posed to you, your ignorance isn't visible? I can only imagine how hard it must be for you, for not being able to answer a simple question knowing you'll contradict your church's teachings. So you scurry away for a few days and come back with a random question and side track what I asked. It's pathetic at this point, give up already.

JMAN05:


Oga answer the question: Whether you take in Indian hemp through the mouth or infuse it, haven't you done the same thing? Food can be eaten or infused, do you disagree?

Your statement that ALL those verses had always been there in the NWT is false. Since you don't have any proof, just keep mom.

Madam, you're just exposing your hypocrisy by this continued display of ignorance. You call yourself a bible teacher and bla bla but simple questions, you refuse to answer because you know the answer doesn't correspond with what they teach you. I said it was removed, you asked for proof and I gave you. Now you want to see where it was, I've told you where to search but you don't want to, so you keep shut because you have nothing tangible to defend

Peacefullove:



And yeah, Finally I arrived at the point I needed , If Sexual intercourse remains sexual intercourse despite if it was done through the mouth, Anus or Vagina .. no matter the way it was done still Fornication and anyone doing that cannot claim to have not fornicated .

how then can you Separate someone that takes BLOOD from the vein from someone that takes the exact same BLOOD from the mouth ? is that still abstinence from Blood , does it make any sense to you if anyone said I abstained from blood but takes bag of BLOOD into their body ?

Well, you should be asking the Jehovahs witnesses that question because they said they abstain from blood, but still take blood fractions transfusion

Peacefullove:


I earlier told you the dictionary you quoted emphasized vaginal sex, but only placed anal or MouthAction as secondary .

Whereas OXFORD dictionary I quoted for you earlier doesn't recognize the so called secondary form of sexual intercourse . Only Vaginal sex !! to emphasize my point that opinion varies.

so tell me how you arrive at Anal or Oral is directly Sexual Inter course ? Where is that written in the bible ?


Today many girls who thinks they are preserving their virginity gives MouthAction , including Anal and yes, They believe they have not fornicated, what do u say to that ?



#In short, my point is if opinion varies and some count oral or anal sex to include Fornication, which are not even spelled out in your Bible are they wrong ?

If some people now includes transfusion into the body to mean same as Eating through the mouth , are they also wrong ?

and just like a Girl who receives penis from the anus and. claims she hasn't fornicated since it wasn't through the vagina , So also folks who receive blood via transfusion and claim they are still abstaining since it wasn't received through the mouth , get my point ?

if u present the argument that blood transfusion is not mentioned in the bible, Show me the word " MouthAction " or " Anal Sex " in the same bible ?

Mate, wtf does that have to do with me. I showed you how sexual intercourse includes other forms of sex from the dictionary but you said it's secondary . So if you want to believe that anal or MouthAction is not fornication, good on you. 1 corinthians 6:9-11 says "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men"

By your definition, men can't have sexual intercourse with each other because one doesn't have a vagina. Does that make the slightest of sense to you?

Peacefullove:


Simply the original definition is the first one.

religious intervention led to the one tagged (2) , and it was not the primary meaning of sexual intercourse . not all dictionary includes such, telling you there are varied opinion . Grow up

Now, my question is : Where did your bible say Anal Sex or MouthAction is Sexual intercourse or Fornication?

Lmao, I should grow up but you're arguing with a dictionary definition? It's clear your reason is flawed. The bible isn't a dictionary to tell you the meaning of words, so don't be silly.

1stflight:


Guys, JWs in the house, please I need comments on this post and the one I made before this. This should be my 5th posts on this topic but I have not gotten a reply.

Kindly note that I am not here for unnecessary arguments......

Peace!!!

They won't answer you oh, Any one I ask this question will either run away or try to ask a question to deflect from it. They've not told them in their church how to answer it yet and they don't want to accept their hypocrisy and double standards

Peacefullove:


sexual intercourse
noun
sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, especially the insertion of a man's erect penis into a woman's vagina, typically culminating in orgasm and the ejaculation of semen.

From the above , Anal sex is not Fornication since Vagina is not penetrated right ?

Meriam Webster Dictionary
Definition of sexual intercourse

1 :heterosexual intercourse involving penetration of the vagina by the penis :coitus
2 :intercourse (such as anal or oral intercourse) that does not involve penetration of the vagina by the penis

JMAN05:


Sorry, you ain't running anymore, answer: Whether you take in Indian hemp through the mouth or infuse it, haven't you done the same thing? Food can be eaten or infused, do you disagree?

Of course you did well by supplying a prove to back up your statement about " pollute".



I ask again your proof or be identified as a fraud. Proof

Lmao, I asked you a question on the 3rd of November and you don't answer and you come on the 5th of November and ask me a question and yet I'm the one running away?

Be identified as a fraud? what the hell? What do they even teach you in your church? I said it's in your own bible, what will it take to open your bible and check? I'm not your governing body to spoon feed you every information you need that you should have.

So since you refused to answer my question for how many days now, are you a fraud?

JMAN05:


Seriously? With ALL those verse? Your proves pls.



Answer the question: Whether you take in Indian hemp through the mouth or infuse it, haven't you done the same thing? Food can be eaten or infused, do you disagree?

I should answer the question but the one I asked you 2 days ago, no response. I asked you "Why are you allowed to take blood fractions if you're asked to abstain from blood?". You asked where the word pollute was in reference to blood and I showed you, after you insinuated that I was lying, no response on that too. So your next line of action is to jump and ask more questions while ignoring the ones that you can't defend.
Using your analogy, I shouldn't take a fraction of indian hemp, right?

And by the way its your "proofs". Go and find the old version of your bible and check, I can't do your research for you.

Peacefullove:




Oga, am not JW

I only need clarification, If a man insert his thing to a woman's back, is it fornication?

Sex is when a man penetrates a womans vagina, isn't it ?

Can we say a person who does it from the back gas abstained ?

Answer me this, and let's apply that logic to the issue of blood . if abstain from blood only means don't eat blood and not don't transfuse blood, Then does it mean abstain from fornication only mean don't penetrate the vagina ?

Madam, fornication means sexual intercourse, read and educate yourself on what that means please.

lovingJehovah:
Ask them this question.
If your doctor asks you to abstain from alcohol, would it be safe to consume it intravenously?

Ahh you're still here? The picture of the watch you said I was lying about, you jumped and passed? Lmaooo.

Since God says abstain from blood, why are fractions allowed in your religion?
Or will you dodge this question too?

Peacefullove:


Abeg me I get question.

for pesin wey no believe bible, no problem .

but if una insist sey na that book called Bible u wan follow, answer me this question .



' but that we write to them that they abstain from things contaminated by idols and from fornication and from what is strangled and from blood. ' Act 15 vs 29



your bible said you Christians should abstain from blood , The word ' Abstain ' , what does it mean ?

Same Bible also say ' Abstain from fornication ' in the same bible portion, no be so ?

If Blood transfusion is not eating blood since what is transfused is not through the mouth, it means if a person have sex from the anus, He is never guilty of Fornication since he didn't penetrate the vagina ?

I need your view Sir .

Are you being ridiculous on purpose? Where did the bible specify which sex falls under fornication. So since abstain means keep away from blood totally, why does your religion allow blood fractions to be taken?

JMAN05:


Tell me how you saw ALL those verses above for 52 years.



Your analogy didn't cover my basic point in Lev 17. So I asked: Are you attacking Gods clear command or don't you gt it? If you eat blood, what is the punishment for that? Lev 17:10. If God stipulates death for eaten blood, how is that covered by your analogy?

Good students of the bible don't see just laws -black and white - they see principles behind the law. Whether you take in Indian hemp through the mouth or infuse it, haven't you done the same thing? Food can be eaten or infused, do you disagree?



The principle in the mosaic law guides true xtens today. We are not under the law. We see how great a sin is, by reviewing how it was viewed in the law. As such, give it a grave punishment allowable in the xten era - disfellowship. In the xten congregation, disfellowship equals death as done in the law. This should be clearer.



You do well! Where did you see the pollute you were talking about?

1) Your New world translation had been in print for 52 years with those scriptures inside before they took it out.
2) The bible said do not eat blood. The same leviticus speculates death for adultery, so why don't you kill your members that commit adultery? So now bible laws is not black and white anymore, it's now principles? So answer this please, what principle said you can take blood fractions?

3) I had said before it was in the 2nd to the last paragraph of this link
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200000774

We abstain on that account from things strangled or that die of themselves, that we may not in any way be polluted by blood, even if it is buried in the meat

lovingJehovah:
I have read many of your previous posts and your sinister motive is very clear. You are an anti-Jehovah's Witnesses. Sadly, we do not set out on our daily activities to please you or your cohort. We owe our lives and service to the one who gave us life and our hope of everlasting life.
Nkem, you are insignificant to us because the devil cannot stand between us and our loving God, Jehovah (Isaiah 41:10). What do we care about your argument with a Catholic?
You are a sadistic person carrying out the will of your father, the devil as you may read in John 8:44 (You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies). You have told so many iniquitous lies against us and even claimed that one of our members wore a wristwatch worth $21,000 on air and you keep spreading the lies online.
This is the only way you can satisfy your urge as Proverbs 4:16 (For they cannot rest until they do evil; they are robbed of sleep till they make someone stumble) perspicuously describes you.
I asked you of your own doctrine and you simply denied your god and your faith. What a Christian! Matthew 10:33 (But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven). This is someone blaspheming the Jehovah's Witnesses who are bold and proud of their faith and belief You told me that you have no doctrine (John 8:44). When a genuine or sincere person disagrees with someone's faith, he presents what he feels is the better faith with evidence. At least Jehovah's Witnesses present a positive message even if you don't agree with it. But for you to make a lopsided attack without anything to propound, it becomes futile and questionable. Your attack is not based on our doctrines, it is based on resentment and spite and that is why you evaded questions that might open your can of worms.
How can someone without a doctrine judge the Jehovah's Witnesses who fearlessly carry the message of the Bible to every door in favorable and unfavorable seasons as Jesus commanded in 2 Timothy 4:1-2 (1 I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his Kingdom: 2 Preach the word; be at it urgently in favorable times and difficult times; reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all patience and art of teaching)?
A sane and spiritual mind will always count on the Bible and not on false stories copied from anti-JW bloggers.
Nkem, it is not by force to listen to us. If you do not want to hear the message, act mature like others and be civilized about it. We do not force the message of the Bible upon you.
Ultimately, since you cannot converse in a civilized manner with Jehovah's Witnesses without being inciteful, I am a proud member who is proud of his doctrine and his God, Jehovah. As Christians, we endeavour to apply the counsel given to us in 2 Timothy 2:23 (Further, reject foolish and ignorant debates, knowing that they produce fights).
To this end, I choose to end this conversation here and I thank you for your time.
It is baseless and a massive waste of time with you.
Take win and leave

lmaoooooooo! what the entire hell? Are you deranged? Did I really hurt you that much, by asking questions or are you just insane? You've just proved my point that everything isn't alright with you at all. So I tell you I don't practice a religion but you're insisting I'm denying my God? If there is one thing I will leave for you is to go and think why a religion you follow permits you to say all those things you've said.

About the wristwatch, it was in your jw broadcast of February 2015. Try not to lie and allow emotions to cloud your judgement

BIBLESPEAKS:


what you've done is you've rubbished the bible's laws and principles, saying it doesn't fit in today's society.

your reasoning is that because the bible never mentioned blood transfusion, it makes of okay.

same reasoning can be that since the bible never mentioned cigarette and other hard drugs, a christian shouldn't have objections to it. your thinking is pathetic.

the bible is made up of principles, these are building blocks of the law. with the passage of time the application of bible principles might mean that certain things newly introduced to society will be rejected by true Christians. really we are talking about pleasing God here, and if we know that an act although not stated categorically in the bible but carries the same meaning as something condemned in the scriptures, we do well to avoid it.

and finally, not Nathan Knorr or the Governing body but the bible says for us to abstain from blood because blood is life and is Gods. and I can't see how transfusing blood keeps one free from blame.

But the bible didn't say anything about blood fractions, so why is it allowed in your religion?

lovingJehovah:
we do not force you to like us and we are not your toys. Do you get that? If you insult us, it doesn't change anything about us. Say whatever you feel and we are not disturbed. You have never liked us and we do not feel pity for ourselves because we are confident of our God and our message. You have always had the perception that we are a cult and you probably must have made many posts disparaging us, so how can that be a worry to us?
Do tell, what can we do about that? You can go on insulting us but you cannot say that of any other religion. Because they will come for you with all they have. You can only say that to the JW because they are peace-lovers and not that they are insane or unlettered.
what is your religion? Please, tell us if you are proud of it and I will consider your doctrines.
Can you tell the public your doctrines and correct us where we have got it wrong instead of casting aspersion?

"
My dear, is everything well at home? Because this your write up indicates something deeper is wrong oh. "You're not our toys", "you're not disturbed by what we say", "I have never like you and I probably but at the same time must have made posts disparaging you."

Re-read your post and tell me if a sane person will type all of that because I talked about your doctrines that were false and you couldn't even defend.
I've had arguments with a catholic friend about some of their doctrines and not once did he make it as an attack on their church and their person. Why does your religion like to act like you're persecuted?
You want to know my religion and consider my doctrines to deflect from your own? Lmao, I don't have any religion, oya consider my doctrine.

JMAN05:


All these are not found in the ancient bible manuscripts.




I don't see the point. Are you attacking Gods clear command or don't you gt it? If you eat blood, what is the punishment for that? Lev 17:10. If God stipulates death for eaten blood, how is that covered by your analogy? Or you are against Gods command?



I didn't see "blood represents life", nor " pollute" in the link you gave. That was what I sent you to bring. If it was in that link you saw what you are asking, I wonder how you saw pollute and "represent". Let me assume you didn't remember where you saw " represents life". Bhs has it.

2. The laws in the Mosaic law serve as a principle for true xtens today. Death equals disfellowship. A disfellowshipped person is dead in the eyes of the congregation. My frequent reference to the osaic law is to see how grave the sin is.

1) So why were they in your previous bible editions for 52 years and you magically figure out that it wasn't in the old manuscript? So which manuscript did you originally use? And are your religion not guilty of Deut 4:2, 12:32?

2) You don't see my point or you don't want to see my point? I simplified my question as best as I could and even added an illustration. So what part don't you get? How am I attacking God's command? It says do not eat blood. Eating blood and blood transfusion are totally different things.

3) It's in the 2nd to the last paragraph, read it again. I'm sorry but even you know death doesn't equal disfellowshipment. They are 2 totally separate things. so if a person who was disfellowshipped comes back and becomes one of your members, is he now resurrected?

In regards to blood representing life, here are links from your own website

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-study/respect-gods-gift-of-life-blood/

In paragraph 10, the first sentenced clearly states Blood is holy to Jehovah because blood represents life

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2004444

It states in in paragraph 4,6 and 10


https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/bible-about-blood-transfusion/
It states this in the last paragraph

lovingJehovah:
Your opinion does not count. We have seen tougher men with political powers come harder than hiding behind their uncle's laptops to throw shades. You are insignificant compared to the pressure and attack that Jehovah's witnesses take on this earth. If not for bloggers you would not be able to construct those words in your comment. We are not disturbed by all those libelous rants. They do nothing to us because we are guided by Jehovah's spirit. We just serve God and people feel threatened by our presence. Jesus said if they are not against us, they are for us. Are we against you? Why would you waste your time chasing shadows? Jehovah's Witnesses are not coming for you, bro! Do not panic, mate! You have attacked all the Jehovah's witnesses on this section and still, you are not pleased. We are on the field every day so we face bigger insults and curses than internet trolls can ever throw at us. Trolls are the least on the pyramid.
Okay, let us talk. What is your religion?
You do not even know me to call me a narcissist. Aren't you judging?
Seriously bro, try to improve on your punctuation.

wow! What a christian you are. I can bet money that no sane human being on this earth is threatened by the presence of Jehovahs witnesses. People look at you lot, as a cult full of brain washed people with un-Christian flip-flopping doctrines. Or they are just irritated by people who knock on their doors preaching a message they can't successfully defend.

Hairyrapunzel:


What of your governing body? Those 7 old imperfect illiterate men in new York have taken the place of Jesus in your lives. They even claim to be the channel your food is dispended
They are your renowned men.

Brainwashing is real mehn.

Tell me about it, imperfect and illiterate but rich enough to wear a $21,000 watch while appearing on a program that was broadcasted to their millions of poor followers. They are just as guilty as the churches they condemn, bunch of brainwashed hypocrites

TheControversy:

Dearie leave them that's how they behave. Arguing with them is like pouring water on rock, it won't sink in. They are so blinded by their beliefs they will swallow whatever their leaders tell them. That's how they believed the world would end in 1975, many of them sold their houses. Show them things their leaders are covering up about their church and they will run away and avoid you like a plague instead of finding out if it's true. Very ignorant set of people.

thank you my dear, I guess when someone is brainwashed, you can't ever make them see it till they decide for themselves. I bet none of them know about Beth-sarim (the mansion that was supposed to house Abraham, Moses, David etc when they resurrected from the dead) where their president used to live while driving a cadilac but they'll look down on other pastors doing the same thing.

JMAN05:


My reply is with Christendom in mind. Of course, we have a book that covers the belief of many religions, entitled MANKIND SEARCH FOR GOD. Islam, Hinduism, Shintoism, Christendom, and more are covered in the book. With it, you can learn the origin and the beliefs of other religions. But my above reply was with xtendom in mind.



More than 20 scriptures. Pls list the 20 scriptures so that I ll know what am replying.



I don't understand. Read Lev 17:11,14. And make your question clearer.



Pollutes? Tell me where u got that from. With regards to taking blood, God said:

Lev 17:10

‘If any man of the house of Israel or any foreigner who is residing in your midst eats any sort of blood, I will certainly set my face against the one who is eating the blood, and I will cut him off from among his people.

But many religions do not equal 4,200 religions so till you've compared and contrasted all of them, you can't know for sure if they are wrong or right.
In reply to your other points

1) Matthew 23:14
Mark 7:16
Mark 9:44
Mark 9:46
Mark 11:26
Mark 15:28
Mark 16:9-20
Luke 17:36
Luke 23:17
John 5:4
John 7:53
Acts 8:37
Acts 15:34
Acts 24:7
Acts 28:29
Matthew 17:21
Matthew 18:11
John 7:53 - John 8:11 (a whole 12 verses missing)
Romans 16:24


2) Okay, your religion says you don't take blood because God said not to and also because blood represents life. If someone needs a blood transfusion to live, you don't take it because of that reason. So you're putting the value of blood above the person's life. If blood represents life, why sacrifice the person's life to respect the blood?

It's like me saying an expensive doll represents my child and I have warned everyone not to destroy the doll. My sister then finds out the doll is made of poisonous material and instead of immediately throwing it away to preserve my child's life, she said because I had said no one should touch the doll, she'll let my child potentially die from the effects of the doll.

3) I got it from your own website
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200000774

In lev. 20:10, it says you should kill anyone who commits adultery, do you do that in your church?

atoleybaba:
I am happy dy left u. Cos d bible even says there is time to speak and time to keep quiet. When someone keeps repeating same line and dy try to correct d person thinking buh d person keep holding on to d same line what will u do? U keep quiet and let d person cont dwelling in his ignorance until maybe God sees that d time is right for ur heart to be soften just like Paul. Enjoy ur night brother I av ntn to tell u again my hand don dy pain. Cos av been repeating same thing to u. Which church u dy go sef?

, I'm happy they left too because they didn't know why they were there. That's the same thing with you isn't it? You keep repeating the same illogical thing over and over again. Enjoy your own night sister, because you've been repeating what I said. If I tell you will you come to my church?

saintmark88:



Dnt mind these guys oh....I have choked one up on his lies and he ran away...I pray he comes back so we will c how he will twist himself into anoda corner

haha! Tell me about it, for people that claim to be bible teachers, it's so easy for them to run away from simple questions that make them use their brains. They just rely on what the elders tell them and believe blindly

atoleybaba:
I only showed u d usefulness of d card. At this junction I will just av to end d conversation cos now u don't even av any point again. And u that understands English so well am shocked u still don't av sense to know that cos it is important to own d card doesn't mean d org forces u to get d card. U just want to av a reason to hate d witnesses. U better listen when dy preach to u cos it means ur life if u obey

of course, end the conversation and run away. You said it's mandatory for a JW to get the card and yet you say a witness is not forced. It's like saying as a student, it's mandatory you pay school fees but you're not forced. Does that make sense? The fact that the school cannot forcefully collect the school fees doesn't mean it's not compulsory.

I should listen to them when I have asked almost 4 of you questions and you all run away? That's the difference between you and I. You've been taught to hate the world and the things in it, to the point that having a normal argument has made you think I hate you and your members. Do better please.

saintmark88:



Dnt mind these guys oh....I have choked one up on his lies and he ran away...I pray he comes back so we will c how he will twist himself into anoda corner

. It's mind-boggling how they pick and choose what to answer and run away when it suits them or in the case of atoleybaba, argue blindly and add cheap insults.