Gorgeous4lyf:


There are many developed countries of the world that are equally or even more developed than Nigeria. I don't want to mention names but you know them. If you have issues with the state of the country please channel your anger to the corrupt politicians we have or the gullible citizens who support them, collect peanuts during voting/elections and people who either refuse to participate in the election/political process in the country.

Pastors are not the problem of Nigeria, corrupt politicians and Nigerians are.

The rot in Nigerian society that produces corrupt governments is the same rot that produces the prosperity gospel. Probably the only advanced nation in the world where this religious scam thrives is the US evangelical movement with the likes of Kenneth Copeland, Joel Osteen, the Falwells, TD Jakes, Creflo Dollar, Paula White etc (known frauds among the US mainstream, who are worshipped by gullible Nigerian Pentecostals). And Nigerian Pentecostal pastors take great inspiration from these American scam artists to similarly scam gullible Nigerians. Most civilized countries do not tolerate the way Nigerian Pentecostal churches operate - a major reason the likes of Oyedepo, Oyakhilome and Ashimolowo have gotten in trouble with British authorities for predatory practices considered antithetical to the role of religious institutions as registered charities.

But more than the predatory scams run by Nigerian churches is the effect that religion as a whole has on Nigerian society and culture. Nigerian culture is just empty. Its intellectual traditions close to non-existent. This is a massive country of over 200 million people that produces very little in globally renowned intellectual output (literature, arts, cinema, scientific achievements etc). Just a massive cult of fanatically religious, god bothering zombies.

Gorgeous4lyf:


Go and steal your own if it is easy...
Godless people without any sense of morality condemning men of God because it is a convenient way to excuse themselves of the decays in their own lives.

The proliferation of people like Oyedepo in Nigeria is symptomatic of the "decay" of our society. There are no Oyedepos in Switzerland or Sweden or Japan. It's decayed shitholes like Nigeria where cult leaders like him abound to scam a very desperate population seeking refuge in religious delusions. Nigeria is the most religious country on earth (where everyone is a god bothering zombie) and is still the absolute pits of the world that contributes very little to the progress of humanity.

The existence of churches like Lord's Chosen is evidence that Nigerians are some of the lowest IQ humans in the world.

IbeOkehie:


LOL!!! Let me not argue too much.

Venezuela has the LARGEST reserves of crude oil in the world. The government took over the entire crude oil industry in 2001 or so. It then pegged the price of petrol at around 10 cents.

Just go read up what has happened since then.

The USA is the biggest producer of crude oil in the world. The government there imposes a tax on petrol.

Anyway go check out Venezuela. Get informed.

Nigerians will pay full price for their fuel because Tina said so. That's all!!!

Good Luck to Nigeria

Why are you particular about Venezuela? Why not Algeria? Or even war-ravaged Libya. Or the Gulf States. Or Iran. Why must your benchmark be the worst of the worst?

And who is asking Nigeria's government to take over the entire crude industry (or any industry for that matter)? That's a strawman. Nobody is asking Nigeria to become a socialist state like Venezuela where all industries are government-owned. I believe the NNPC should be unbundled and managed by the private sector, with the government as key stakeholders - much like was done with NLNG. It's not too much to ask that the government should be able to account for what marketers it is paying its subsidy to (the incompetent morons in the NNPC for donkey years could barely even tell you how many liters of refined crude products they were paying subsidies on - something that should be elementary accounting), and what holdings those marketers have in Nigeria, and the data should be able to form the basis to gather intelligence about those who could be smuggling subsidized products across borders. These things aren't rocket science. The will to do the job isn't there because those tasked with plugging these leaks are the same people profiting from it. The truth is while a lot of subsidized products move across the border, much of what the NNPC claims to be paying subsidy on is fictitious (by inflating the volume of product subsidized) and the criminals at the top simply pocket these fictitious subsidies and claim the fuel is being smuggled out:
https://budgit.org/subsidy-removal-and-nigerias-daily-petroleum-consumption/

Again, stop comparing us to the US. Nigeria cannot be run like the US. The US is an exception to the rule - not the rule. Most countries have energy subsidies cos they recognize its impact on the local economy and welfare of its citizens.

IbeOkehie:


Back in 2011 to 2012 when the Jonathan govt tried to remove subsidy, I attended all sorts of public events and argued a lot with people about this topic. Everyone I talked to about it was against the removal of subsidy. I got frustrated to the point I distilled my argument down to one sentence - "Nigerians will one day pay full price for their fuel".

That day is almost here. Tina is a beautiful girl and this is her day.

You don't know Tina? She the one that said "There Is No Alternative". Get it?

There will be no fight against corruption because it's IMPOSSIBLE to stop. If the Fed Govt likes she can station the entire Army, Customs and Air Force all along the border, the imperative of the Free Market will still overcome all the obstacles.

The ONLY SOLUTION is to get government out of the business of subsidizing and setting prices of petrol...and university education and rice and pilgrimages and forex and train service and everything else. Yes, Nigerians will suffer but that is how great nations are made. Or they can continue with the same system they've always had since 1914.

The ONLY solution is FREE MARKETS. Take it or leave it!!!!

Good Luck to Nigerians!

Nigeria over the course of the 4th Republic has trimmed its government footprint in the economy with many total or partial privatizations, and a lot of market deregulation and Nigeria is a more dystopian shithole than it has ever been. The history of the Nigerian economy is replete with countless examples of our complying with the deregulation and austerity proposals, and free market reform demands of our international creditors like the IMF, and suffering devastating economic pain with little gain. American-style free market economics is not the blueprint for progress for 3rd world hellholes like Nigeria. Energy subsidies boost economic activity and exist in most countries in the world. The same claims about petrol smuggling is what the oil sector has been battling with crude oil theft and it's lazy to simply let the government off the hook by blaming its staggering incompetence on malign, nefarious actors that are apparently unstoppable. Nigeria went from producing over 2 million barrels of oil per day as far back as the 90's to sometimes averaging 800k in the last administration. They also blamed their incompetence on shady actors (oil thieves in this case rather than smugglers).

It's honestly amazing to hear people advocating that Nigeria, an oil producing nation (and poverty capital of the world), should subject its citizens to the oil price in international free markets - especially given the vulnerability of our currency.

nairalanda1:


Because when a smuggler takes fuel at N920 and heads to NIger or cameroon, or benin, or even Central African republic, he can make a cool profit of at least N500 Per liter.

TELL ME, how won't he be able to bribe the customs man and STILL come home with a profit.

Whereas, if fuel was sold at market price, no one is going to do nothing like smuggling.

It is worse in some other countties. Venezuela sells fuel at N40 equivalent. Colombia its neighbour...fuel is over 30 times that amount. Guess how much smuggling goes on between both countries.

The problem with selling petrol at "market price" is that the ongoing rapid devaluation of the naira (which continues to increase the landing cost of fuel products) has pauperized most of the population and made petrol at "market price" unaffordable. Last year, when subsidies were removed on petrol and it was selling at just over N500, I was fully behind the move, while sermonizing to everyone that would listen about the fiscal gains the country was going to make from subsidy removal. When the naira continues to plunge, fueling further inflation as energy prices continue to skyrocket, you can't continue acting like everyone groaning under the weight of the government's incompetence are simply illiterates who don't understand economic fundamentals about "market price" and incentives for smuggling and product diversion.

The smugglers are not smuggling wraps of cocaine in their anus or ingesting them. The quantities of petrol being alleged to be smuggled amount to thousands of tankers taking it across borders daily. THOUSANDS OF TANKERS DAILY. This is absolutely impossible to do without the active connivance of many well connected, highly placed stakeholders, and demanding that the people in power do the jobs taxpayers expect them to do and plug the leaks (rather than useless, performative whining in the media about the problems we already know) seems a better long-term solution than simply continuing to accept skyrocketing energy costs at "market price".

And can you people quit your low IQ argument about Tyla and whatnot. I feel deep embarrassment for you guys.

KingCold:
I'm not drug trafficking that's for sure

That's irrelevant to what I asked. And I don't know you to know what you're doing "for sure".

Amarachieze:


The man that insulted the woman most probabbly an animist or athei st was not concerned about noise pollution as some of you insunuated but on the veracity or validty of the preaching. According to him the woman is jobless and hungry and should stop wasting her time but look for job.
Pls Nigerians are still grappling with the most basic needs of life such as food, portable water, clothing and other survival needs and not noise pollution-

If you don't know what the man is, there is no point in you speculating. 99% of Nigerians are Christian or Muslim. As an Igbo man, there is 99% chance he's a Christian. His telling her to go and look for a job was his way of insulting her - but it doesn't mean it wasn't her noise that irritated him. I'm an atheist myself and I've never met a Nigerian atheist before in real life - except on internet forums like this. But even when I was a practicing Christian as a student, I found it revolting for someone to enter a bus and feel he/she has the right to shout unsolicited "word of god" at people. Also recall that a Lord's Chosen woman used to enter my street around 5:00am, and stand right infront of my house gate with her megaphone to scream her "word of god" at people sleeping. The narcissism of it never ceases to amaze me. I respect people and their space and can't imagine walking into a street that is not my own (I later had to warn the estate security men to stop letting her in and haven't seen her since) to start screaming unsolicited nonsense at them. I remember once being in a BRT (where there are signs stating "No Hawking. No Preaching" ) where a woman (another Lord's Chosen narcissist) started her sermonizing and some passengers were trying to show her the "No Preaching" sign in the bus and she wouldn't stop - until the bus driver who saw the commotion stopped the bus and told the woman to either observe the rules or leave the bus.

I know you Christians are holier than all of us and we're all going to hell, but please be lawful, be cultured and be respectful of people's personal space. You might understand how bizarre your actions are if other religions like Islam had evangelists who go around screaming the tenets of their faith in street corners and buses, but the madness is just a Christian thing - usually the Pentecostals - so it doesn't bother you. If you want to evangelize, do it respectfully like Jehovah's Witnesses do - who would ask for you attention and if you decline, they respect your wishes. Not uncivilized, virtue signaling, narcissistic nonsense from people who just love to hear their own voice.

Plenty of Nigerians aren't grappling with the lack of basic needs and it's their right to ask for respect and sanity. And even those that are grappling with lack of essentials still have a right to demand respect and sanity. It all boils down to respect. Somebody who would carry a megaphone around to disturb the peace of neighborhoods just lacks respect and decorum.

KingCold:
I'm not mistaking you for anything. I'm responding as you give..

I reside in a good neighborhood, I'm not a tourist, I'm sorted, I'm safe. When it comes to hell-holes speak of your country, leave mine alone

Who's holding your country? What are you doing on a Nigerian forum?

KingCold:
LOL. if we're a "hellhole" I just wonder what you're since you get no visitors

It seems you mistake me for someone who is in some juvenile diiick measuring contest. I'm more than happy to admit that Nigeria is the absolute pits of the earth, and one of the worst shitholes to live in on the planet. None of that detracts from the fact South Africa is a crime-ridden hellhole with some good spots for tourists. I know this. You know this. Everyone knows this.

Kushites:


You WHITE DEMON.

You are NOT a Nigerian.

How dare you say “our passport”?

I know you on this Forum.

You are lying white racist filthy dog who comes here PRETENDING to be a Nigerian, and then trash talks the country.

And because you’re a filthy white suprematist you’ve come in here to attack BOTH black populations of Nigeria and South Africa.

Haven’t you found a better job to do in all these years, you filthy animal?

Are you that deranged Rossikk fella who has like 50 different monikers/accounts here? Better calm yourself and stop foaming in the mouth like a rabid dog.

KingCold:
A tourist mecca which is a supposed "hell-hole" we get taught new things every day

South Africa is one of the most naturally beautiful, endowed countries on the planet. Great coastlines, stunning landscapes, good weather. It has more tourism potential than almost all African countries combined, and yet gets less annual visitors than Morocco. - with Egypt typically being the top African destination. You'd get probably 10 times the annual visitors you get now if the country was not a crime-ridden hellhole.

Two things can be true at the same time:
1) Nigerians are among the worst class of immigrants anywhere in the world due to the propensity for crime. It's a massive stain on our passport.
2) South Africa, with sky high murder, rape and violent crime rates, is one of the most crime-ridden hell holes on the planet which is overwhelmingly a product of the indigenous population - and the locals love to project these pathologies on immigrant groups to make themselves feel better about deeper systemic problems they have to tackle.

emmyileri:
Mockery and insult is part of the trial and challenges of evangelism. Jesus Christ, The early Christians and apostles experience worst. God will definitely reward everyone both now and after life.

The early Christians were greatly persecuted because Christianity was a minor cult religion in historic Palestine and the Roman Empire. Modern Christians are not. On the contrary, Christians are the persecutors - the ones who in every street corner and market and bus, will not allow people rest, with riffraffs disturbing the peace of citizens to signal their superior virtue. You insult your own early Christian forebears by comparing your "trials and challenges" to them.

Taiwojon:

Oga we don hear you

Better repent
Jesus died for you

Jesus and Christianity are fantasies sold by colonialists to the dumbest race of people in the world who kill themselves over imported religions - the African man. Better find ways to be productive to society, rather than wallowing in delusions about the heavenly mansion that is waiting for you.

Amarachieze:

Was the foolish reprobate that verbally assulted the woman complaining of noise pollution?
And what is noise pollution in a country that cannot afford the basic infrastructural needs of citizens.
You claim educated and civilized yet lack tolerance; why not call police if he was actually concerned about noise.

So if a country has infrastructural problems, then everyone should constitute whatever nuisance they want? So you need somebody to tell you that a woman carrying around a loudspeaker to blare out unsolicited preaching in streets and infront of people's houses who are sleeping by 4:00 am is constituting a nuisance? You think that is "tolerance"? If people came from outside to dump their garbage infront of your house, would you classify that as acceptable actions requiring "tolerance"?

Arostar2023:


Maybe. But for sure, she is going to buy a bigger and better megaphone...una must repent . I used to do this some years back. You don't know the satisfaction one gets in preaching the good-news. Since we have religious liberty here, it's isn't a bad idea to inconvenience some folks in order to save their soul.

I'll never understand the kind of narcissist who thinks he's entitled to disturb everyone he sees with preaching. It's a personality disorder. And dumb. If you want to preach to people, you can do it the way Jehovah's Witnesses do, approaching and engaging them, and if they want to listen to you, fine, if not, you go your separate ways. That's respectful. Standing outside people's houses to blare your loudspeaker, or entering buses to shout among passengers is uncouth, crude, rude, narcissistic behavior. And should be illegal - as it is in civilized countries (which Nigeria unfortunately isn't).

longayink:


Dumb talk?
Owerri zone fought Udenwa over relocation of IMSU from Owerri.
Owerri zone fought Ohakim over talk that IMSU would be relocated outside Owerri.
Owerri zone fought Okorocha standstill over talk that IMSU would be taken from Owerri to Ideato.
Don't pretend you don't know that it's all the government institutions in Owerri with students and staff population nearing 300,000, that make Owerri develop ahead of rest of Imo state.
Cities develop because of just one public university in them. But Owerri zone clutches tight to more than 4 public universities, and does waka to rest of Imo state.

Again, this is just a nonsense talking point. I don't know what you mean by "Owerri zone fought". Fought how? It's not that easy (and a waste of resources) to relocate an entire university. Nothing stopped all these Orlu zone governors from building universities in Orlu, since many Orlu village men with no imagination think that only universities bring urban development - even though Onitsha does not have one single university or tertiary institution of any kind (technical colleges, nursing colleges, teaching institutes etc) and is still by far the most populated and urbanized area of Anambra.

You people's Owerri envy no go kill you sha. I've said it many times in this thread that I have heard many groups of people crying marginalization in Nigeria (usually because they are forgotten, abandoned minorities in their state) but Orlu people are the first and only existing people in Nigeria that I've heard crying marginalization despite ruling the state for over 20 out of the last 25 years in Imo state (the Owerri zone ruling for less than ONE year), and having big majorities in the Imo House of Assembly. Una no get shame at all, sha and you don't know how silly you sound to the rest of us.

Broveens42:


Nnewi is a typical village compared to many LGAs in Imo , no matter how hard you try to shade your own pictures
Visit Ngor okpala, Oguta, Nwangele etc


#oguta in pictures

Lol.....that last place is a resort community in Rwanda. Oguta, my arse! The landscape and greenery and level of planning alone would tell you that it is not some random town in Imo state. Una go just dey lie anyhow.

longayink:
However solid a road was built, human/vehicular traffic wears off the road with time. There is population influx to Owerri from rest of Imo state, because of continued heaping of all govt institutions in Imo state in Owerri district.
Human/vehicular traffic quickly tears off the roads of Owerri district. Those who located all government institutions in Imo state in Owerri, and the succeeding governors who swallowed the falsehood that every govt development project must be located in the state capital, are to be blamed for unending reconstruction of roads in Owerri district. Give it 4 more years, the roads being done in Owerri district will require resurfacing again.

Why do you Orlu people love parroting the emboldened dumb talking point? The Onitsha metro area in Anambra which has continued to expand has next to no government institutions. Cities don't develop just because you site a few universities in them.

Stolen:
Umunne m, I'm going through alot in this nairaland, just over Anioma state creation.

If u notice, the post i made earlier have again been taken down.

I dont know y Yoruba are so concerned over Anioma State to this extent.

Both them and the Bini are no longer sleeping.

We call the ijaw land grabbers for claiming other tribes and growing.


Yet we dont realise the delibrate attempt to shrink Ndigbo by size to a dot in a middle.

They have constantly told the Anioma they are not Igbo because Bini want to expand.

They went as far as sending the Olukumi set up Kingdom in Oshimili, smililar to the one in Benin or IdU.

We neeed to be very careful of the yorubas, they are diabolical. Yes Bini is Yoruba.


Anioma state is a liberator and it will solidify them as Igbo. Biko those our brothers close to the Gov and Orumba reps should shoot down that Etiti proposal. I have been calling for this because I'm following events.

Just tell them to remove Orumba from Etiti.

Dalu!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ0RGQt0o-g

Just look at the historically illiterate, ignorant nonsense an adult is typing. And some of you wonder why many Igboid groups in the Niger Delta absolutely despise Igbos.

SmartPolician:


Zion Ministry singlehandedly transformed its part of Okota in Lagos...from lodges to hotels, bottled water manufacturing to olive oil manufacturing company, Seraphic Foundation, hospital, etc. Many churches are fighting so that Zion Ministry doesn't come down to Imo State because most of their members will start worshipping at Zion. That's the challenge most churches around Ago-Okota (especially Catholic Churches) are facing now. This is one ministry that people (especially Nigerians abroad) fly in from around the world to worship with, so that will definitely boost the air traffic of Imo airport.

Meanwhile, Zion Ministry is already building a psychiatrist and old people's home in Anambra. The project was initially estimated at 250m but, according to Evangelist Ebuka, it will cost over 500 million now because the project design keeps changing to incorporate new ideas. He plans to build one in all the 5 Eastern states, plus Delta, Rivers and Plateau States. He said he doesn't want to see mad people roaming the streets of those states.

I know that area of Ago-Okota very, very well and I've done projects there. Zion ministry "singlehandedly transformed" gini? What are you talking about?

millionaireman:


This Mba5 bloke who in some places claims that he is from Anambra State. Are you here again badmouthing Orlu? FYI, it's the SC who deposed former gov Ihedioha, not anyone from Orlu. What has Orlu zone benefited from Imo state? Okorocha was voted into office by Owerri votes at the crucial supplementary election. Your bitterness over the name Orlu, has no limits, has no basis. Easy.

My dad is from Oraukwu, as some people here have known for years, and my mum is from Agulu. Keep consoling yourself, sha.
Who said Ihedioha was deposed by Orlu? What does that have to do with the fact the Orlu zone have held power in Imo for almost 21 of teh last 25 years and STILL shamelessly cry about marginalization?

As for Anioma being a SE state, it's just a pipe dream. It would conceive of itself as a 7th SS state. I don't think people here understand how deep the Igbophobia of Ukwuani people in particular runs, and Ika people definitely don't see themselves as Igbo. And it has even infected parts of Oshimili. Ndi Aniocha are the only reliable allies of Ndigbo among Anioma people. I wish there was a serious state creation movement to merge Igbo communities in southern Benue with Northern Enugu and Ebonyi. They also happen to be highly impoverished, neglected areas which could do with state-level funding. But there is honestly no attractive state creation movement. The proposed Etiti state looks a jumbled mess. Overall, Anioma seems the best of the bad options.

ChukwuEmeka00:


Seems you consume too much beer parlour history.

Let me ask you...

What did Owerri take, and from whom?

Owerri is the capital of Imo State. It's right for Owerri to house most State government institutions as the State Capital.

Meanwhile, your deliberate lies cannot change the fact that for the past 20 years, the Orlu cabal have been manipulating the entire Imo State in the following ways:

👉🏾 Frustrating every efforts to rotate government in Imo State. Which is why all Governors since 1999 except Ohakim and Udenwa, are from Orlu. Orlu held power for 20 years while Owerri zone and Okigwe zone haven't seen 8 years in government house.

👉🏾 Those Orlu governors took everything from all parts of Imo and relocated them to Orlu zone. An example is the teaching hospital and the school of nursing (which were situated in the capital at Owerri).

👉🏾 Orlu has planned for years to rob Imo State dry and breakaway to create their own State. It will not work though.

👉🏾 If your beer parlour lies are true, then you should hold your Orlu brothers accountable because they have been the ones governing from Owerri since Nigeria's return to Democracy.

What we need is Anioma State.

Orlu State, Etiti State and Adada State are useless acts of balkanization of Igbo land.

Anioma offers hope for a better future for all of us as Igbo people.

Much of this is correct except the emboldened. Udenwa is from the Orlu zone too. Infact, from Orlu LGA proper. By the conclusion of Uzodimma's 2nd term in 2027, the Orlu zone would have ruled Imo for almost 24 of 28 years since 1999. The Okigwe zone would have had only Ohakim's 4-year term. And the Owerri zone would have been in power for just over 7 months after Ihedioha was deposed. The Orlu zone's cries of marginalization in Imo state is the most laughable, shameless and simply deranged political stunt I've ever seen in Nigerian politics. People who cry "marginalization" in Nigerian politics tend to be ignored and neglected with no political power, but I've never seen where a people who are the dominant political players in a state are the ones crying marginalization. It's made me see them as greedy, manipulative, dishonest and very toxic and has definitely turned me off their statehood quest - which I hope fails catastrophically. Imagine your appeal for statehood being "our own sons in leadership have misgoverned the state for donkey years, so you should reward us with a new state (including a big chunk of Anambra) and make our LGA the capital of the state, so that we can monopolize the resources and dominate everyone like we've been accusing Owerri people of doing"

In the midst of the economic disaster that has been unleashed on this country over the past year (and continuing to accelerate as we've become the new Zimbabwe) and the manifest multi-sectorial failures, as citizens groan under the biting hardship, this victory lap over the Supreme Court LG decision (as if this is the main challenge we're facing) is some very, very desperate stuff. And very, very stuupid stuff. Nigerians as a people have to have the lowest IQs on the planet.

Gajagojo:
You sound frustrated and slow witted

Projection from a buffoon who can't even stick to a line of argument and just repeats the same witless drivel like a programmed robot. I get that you get your kicks from indulging your Igbophobia, but you can at least engage your brains while you do it.

Gajagojo:


You are vomiting the same putrid verbigeration
They went to the Willinks Commission proves they have always asserted their difference
All your whining about "OTHERS" pushing an agenda is just paranoid rumination

Again, what does this have to do with anything I said? Did I argue anything about whether they went to Willinks Commission or not? Did I argue anything about whether they asserted their difference or not? You're arguing against your own strawman constructs and rambling utterly irrelevant drivel. In a thread where I said they have the right to assert whatever identity they wish, you're still somehow acting like I said the opposite. Are you reetarded?

B2mario:
I am in support of anybody dying. They shall live and be disgraced alive. My problem is let them stop creating false information here and making it to look like truth. Don't be surprised that many of them are not Igbo. The informations they are putting here with false crafted evidence are not true. There has never been anytime any core Orlu block rejected the creation of any form of Orlu state, even Ihiala and Nnewi south has never done that. Orlu state has always been the plan since 1976.

When Sen. Arthur Nzeribe thwarted the move to create Orlu state with Orashi state movement from the same zone claiming that he was not duly consulted. The proponents of Orlu state retorted to change of name (Njaba, a name of the major river in the zone) to unify all state agitation in the zone. The initial arrangement is always Orlu state.

You're delusional:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/06/state-creation-cttee-settles-for-ugwuaku-state/
Half the local government of the Orlu Senatorial zone rejected Njaba statehood. Except you think the only reason they rejected it is because of the name (which would be an absurd claim), that was de facto rejection of Orlu state. You can keep dreaming about Nnewi South.

millionaireman:


And you don't know that Njaba state proposal is more or less like the Orlu state proposal.
It's not necessary that other local government areas outside Orlu senatorial district join Orlu state. The confusionists Etiti state proposal has already hit the rocks - no democratic method can succeed in mixing together local government areas without known traditions connecting them, to form Etiti State. Not even military govts can succeed in conscripting these diverse local government areas to form Etiti State.

No, the Njaba state proposal was not as expansive as the Orlu state proposal.
It is not necessary either for all local governments in Orlu zone to join your state agitation. Ohaji/Egbema people have already told you to pound sand, and stated their open preference to remain as Imolites and there is no way they're going anywhere with you - especially when they have the oil. But yes, if your agitators can overcome their laziness and arrogance and actually consult broadly with the communities they intend to partner with, then they can maybe you can get more supporters for your Orlu state paradise of 10 or so local governments (you're definitely not getting Ohaji/Egbema).

millionaireman:
Bill for Orlu state will also pass 2nd reading.
At the appropriate time, we shall see that not most Nigerians pervert the course of justice. Enugu and Ebonyi states shall not be divided for the 3rd and 2nd time respectively to create 6th state for the southeast; whereas it's the 12 local government areas of Imo West Senatorial district that naturally deserve the 6th state.

Imo state will provide the bulk of the territory for Etiti state. Shey it's division of Imo that you want? You'll get it. Even though Orumba people have rejected the Etiti state and prefer to stay in Anambra, the proposal is more likely to succeed than the Orlu clownery cos they're not mad people trying to annex Anambra territory as far as Nnewi like the lunatics of Orlu state agitation. You could have simply tabled the same Njaba proposal as 2 decades earlier and got more buy-in from stakeholders, but your greed is what will prove your pitfall.