ishmael
because of ignoramus like you, i stopped contributing to online discussions. Wetin we don talk wey you dey bring my parents into matter??

For the records, you piece of scum, i passed my SSCE & JAMB at the 1st sitting; when i was in SSS3 before proceeding to the great U.I.

Presently am in U.K undertaking my MSc, so intellectually am definitely not your equal.

Now ask your thick brain, why am i in u.k for my masters?? because i know a day would come when my so-called 1st class certificate from U.I won't be enough. So when the day does come, instead of crying or making frustrated arguments like you and HND-holder, i will be in a better position.

Piece of advice, DO something before its too late.

All these so called poly graduates you have mentioned tell me one significant progress they have brought to these nation, if not corruption and lack of initiative.

Meanwhile the same fola adeola of GTB implemented a no poly graduate recruitment process o, abi how many poly graduate dey gtb?

Now to buttress my point read this quote from the editorial of punch on 23/12/05

''It is absolutely futile to target policies at compelling employers to put workers they consider unproductive on their organisations’ payrolls. It is the need of the society, as dictated by market forces, and not the wishful thinking of government or any group of graduates, that determines whether a particular worker is employed or not. In their optimizing behaviour, firms are compelled to hire only those they consider relevant to the maximum achievement of their profit motives. Even in the public sector, the suitability of workers is most objectively determined by the quality of institution attended and the grade of certificate obtained. At the interview stage, other tools of selection are applied to pick out those who might have obtained their certificates by fraudulent means.''(The punch, Employers and tertiary graduates, 23rd of dec. 2005)www.punchng.com/editorial/article01

I will sincerely advice you guys to go and read the full text, it will definitely enlighten and educate you.

Hnd-holder:

Why are you flying like sosoliso or bellview? I am sorry for you because your fall will be wost than Almaisigha. You speak like a person that refuses to face reality. The way slave came to the world is also the way SON arrived. Obasanjo, Ayofayose, Aragbesola are proud products of polytechnic. Kolawole olawuyi, and so many other respectable Nigerian were product of the polytchnic.
Let face the fact. I am not a BOY I am a man of your father's Age and tired of degrees as I have obtained the highest my ability could take me. A third degree for that matter. Psychologically this issue is killing. Why Polytechnic education? Everybody should be happy where ever they find themselves. Those that are not academic brilliant is never their fault. Do you want them to hang them selves? Say amen that what took us to the polytechnic will happen to your children.

Whats all this about? ain't we talking about Polytechnic vs uni graduate? so how come my father comes into it? must you mention that? i value and respect my parents so i DO NOT tolerate reference to them when its not called for. Therefore i feel there's no point continuing this discourse with you. And i demand an apology from you.

Hnd-holder:

This is a war. You better stay away if you do not know what to write on this issue. You look like "Ajebuta" Can you say amen if I wish your life to be like that of HND holders? Something lead us into the polytechnic so such thing should lead your children

oh boy which ones now. why the curses, God forbid bad thing my child go to polytechnic? impossibility of the highest order. God almighty will not let it happen.

PrettyH, i don't understand your point about being priviledge/underpriviledge. It simply does not hold water because there are numerous underpriviledge kids in federal universities so also priviledge kids in polytechnics. Concerning your jamb scores, i find it very hard to believe that you score above the cut-off mark and you were offered a pre-degree course. Sister please lets be truthful.

Lovely story if only it were to be true.

anyways my comment: I have always believe its good to have extra marital affairs and this story just prove my point. There is always something good like in it. while it might not be escape from death, it could be numerous other things like good sex which will eventually lead to long life. Perhaps it could even be the good food, you know girlfriends cook better or maybe the lack of nagging. Whatever it is, extra marital affairs has its advantages. I recommend it to you guys planning to get married and to you married men i will only say WHAT are you waiting for.

HA HA HA, do you guys know why am laughing? cos its so funny, poly graduates and their sympathisers should boycott banks like access. Like they give a damn or if it will ever affect them, imagine what a silly idea.

PrettyH while i am not trying to get personal, the fact is your jamb score was obviously below par which was why they offered you pre-degree course.

Hnd-holder, point of correction i never said poly graduates are fool. Its just that the bulk of them are unempolyable even some university graduates.

The fact is when you people mention develop countries, try to find out what obtains there first. Like you think a graduate of one ordinary state uni in america and a graduate of say harvard are in the same league. People levels dey, even in the so called develop countries.

I guess few people are patriotic enough to have 9ja anthem as ringtone. Funnily i have americam anthem as my ringtone so if anyone needs it i can get it across. I know some people will crucify me for that now.

Meanwhile Oga seun am still waiting o.

well my point now is that he should leave the girl, simple as that. Ofcourse the baby is yours so you will have to support the BABY not the mother o. But please for the sake of your future and so as not to regret later in life, leave her now immediately. It will only hurt for a while but she will get over it.

Think about your future.

Seun:

A lot of Nigerians abroad will be happy that they can buy phone cards for their friends in Nigeria.

SEUN in your dreams. you can take a quick poll of foreign based nigerians on nairaland to confirm.

Fdeveloper:

The point of the service is not to enable subscribers to use their phones in the UK where of course there is no coverage so I don't quite see the point of your argument here.

The point, which you so obviously fail to see, is that (well you are wrong there's coverage in U.K through roaming agreement) because few nigerians use their phones abroad therefore the service was never meant for them. It follows that since they hardly use their phones in u.k so why give them the facility to enable them recharge these phones. This just does not make sense until you realise this is purely a business decision, with the sole aim of increasing their revenue. So i do not see any reason why people should jubilate about the service, well except you are a shareholder in MTN.

Come to think of it, they should be congratulated for their business sense. Imagine MTN has created a new business model by simply extending their market share, nay create a new market. This new model enabled MTN to increase revenue by getting individuals that do not utilise their service to pay for the service.

Whao seriously they deserve an award, just think about it. I think the guys in their corporate strategy division are genius.

Fdeveloper:

If you took the trouble to do some basic research before making such a sweeping statement, you would know that this is not a service that is unique to Nigeria.
I would be very glad if you could clearly explain to me how the ability to recharge a prepaid line remotely makes us Nigerians "poverty stricken" as you put it? If that is true, then the same applies to citizens of many other countries including a number of so called "developed" ones where it is also possible to recharge prepaid lines remotely.

I think you need to be a little more constructive in your criticism.

Fdeveloper:
The availability of the service in other countries do not justify its introduction, in other words its still disgraceful.

Its obvious you are only looking at the technology aspect of the issue, ability to recharge remotely. This is not about the technology, how many nigerians use their MTN line in u.k? very few. So the ability to recharge remotely means someone in u.k have to recharge their phone for them. Which is the premise of my disagreement with the service, it does not make sense. Believe me even the brains behind the technology at MTN will confirm to you, its all about tapping into the pockets of nigerians based in u.k. They are the target of this service not people living in nigeria. Mtn has just found a clever way of making more money. its that simple, to further prove my point just look at oluwizard's comment.

No nigerian based in u.k will ever like this new service.

i feel like crying, is just too sad. imagine what this nation as turned into? what a colossal shame!!!!! but well there's God and justice will definitely be done. No thief shall go unpunished.

SEUN
I am still awaiting your reply to the questions i asked. Kindly reply as soon as possible.

joftech:

What access bank failed to know is that what people learn in univesity is irrelevant to what they will face on the field.

They should have embark on retraining these workers.

What i know is that it's your IQ that matter not the school or grade you manage to get.

Very soon the only people they will be employing will be people that have overseas degrees, it's happening already anyway.

Well my dear friend i refuse to agree with your submission, reason being that while university is not suppose to teach you everything you will encounter in life. It is meant to equip you to handle yourself professional and develop your cognitive thinking. I daresay our so called higher institutions, even first generation universities, fail in this task. Though the state universities and polytechnics perform more woefully in this endeavor.

Believe me it is not my intention to deride graduates of these institutions, but the fact is you can always tell the difference when you meet a poly/state university graduate and say a graduate of U.I or Unilag. The difference is very clear.

As per your submission on re-training the workforce, do you not know that some people can not adapt to training. Re-training such individuals, mostly graduates from these institutions, is just a waste of funds. Moreover access bank obviously felt the cost of training will be better utilised elsewhere. 

On your last point i agree wholeheartedly with you, sooner than later organisations will be requiring only expatriate degree holder. Ofcourse only a fool will not see the handwriting on the wall. What with most people, especially decision makers in the corporate arena, sending their wards abroad for training. Do you think they just have the urge to waste their money? No, they are preparing these kids to take over from them (example Globalcom/Adenuga). No matter how much you hate this it will sure come to pass. A word is enough for the wise.

I fully and wholeheartedly support access bank concerning this issue.

IAH kindly grab a copy of access bank annual report to know more about the position of access bank in the banking industry. Aig & Albert rank way up on the list of people that brought the most innovation to corporate nigeria. These guys are so good they almost took over union bank, just ask Mr Oboh.

The access bank management are trying to build a world class organisation to compete with the best in the world. The trend in management has moved towards human resource as a competitive advantage, access bank is only trying to leverage on this.

Let us be truthful to ourselves, the standard of graduates from polys & state uni is absolutely nothing to write about. Personally i think these schools should be scrapped. They are consistent in churning out half-baked graduates. I know it could be painful but the fact is poly & state uni products are second class graduates. Most people that ended up in these schools failed/scored low mark in the uni jamb. Attending these school at the onset as already confirmed a second class status on an individual. Ofcourse someone will say we can not all go to first generation universities, well my answer is we can not all go to heaven but where do you want to go?

JOFTECH
How can you see any good in a retrogressive law? The explanation you put forward serves to further confirm to us that those engineers are out to rip people off. Why will they not want clients to have knowledge of the prices? probably because they have something to hide.

Meanwhile on the issue of security, computer village is right beside the old african shrine and a lot of those miscreants are still in the vicinity. Until they are properly uprooted from the area, the security problem will persist.

BREAKING NEWS
okocha is no more captain of bolton wanderers, imagine he was de-captain for k nolan (small boy oh). That is the man you guys want to make african footballer of the year o. He was a good player but his best days are over.

Affordable
I completely agree with you jo. What a rubbish idea, so nigerians are so poverty stricken that they need people based abroad to pay their phone bills? Its ideas like this that turn nigeria into laughing stock in the comity of nations. se MTN no dey south africa, so why are they launching this stupid idea in nigeria? abi south africans are not in U.K.

A typical nigerian mentality will not see anything wrong in this, this idea is just a reflection of the poverty in nigeria. It is so annoying when people attribute this type of agbero commercialisation/idea as worthy of innovation. You people should be crying for nigeria insteading of jubilating.

Now every idiot in nigeria with a relative sweeping/washing gutter in london will expect him/her to pay his phone bills.

SEUN
its people like you, he should beware of. people who will never say the truth, you push othr folks into trouble meanwhile you avoid it. tell me are you married, if not why? and if you are @ what age? let us hear what you got to say

Natasha

If i may ask which Drogba r you talking about? because if its the same didier he was anything but consistent last season even jose acknowledge that. And this season, girl please if not for lampard chelsea would have reverted back to form (1-0 margin)

Also before i usually get emotion and disturbed by the garbage 'nollywood' churn out until i realised that this films were not intended for people like me. There were being produced for people with low I.Q, these people are the target market.

AJISAFE
ha infact i love you believe me (though not in a sexual way o). I thought i was the only sensible person being offended by the crap that is being portray as movies. You definitely hit the nail on the head and i totally agree with your points.

Someone said nigerians abroad watch home videos, fine no problem but who are these people? are they not the same set of razz uneducated ignoramus that watch it in nigeria. oh because they have now manage to sneak into western countries now make them intelligent. For your information educated and ENLIGHTEN nigerians abroad do not watch it.

Personal i think some of this movie producers should be arrested and jailed for defamation of our corporate character and image, believe me i feel that strongly about it. I absolutely do not think any intelligent person will watch nigeria home video period.

DANONE

Utter rubbish you just allowed yourself to be hoodwinked into slavery. so what if she was pregnant, na she go be the first? How can you marry at the age of 22, what were you thinking. It is highly unfortunate but you just lost your precious youth and freedom, now you are in serious boundage.

Imagine you did not even enjoy your youth, have fun and be adventurous. At that tender young age, your life is already over. I know they (the congregation) will call me names but am the only one saying the truth. You made a very big mistake marrying that girl, believe me you will always regret it, no matter what anybody here say to console you.

Lovely story if only it were to be true.

anyways my comment: I have always believe its good to have extra marital affairs and this story just prove my point. There is always something good like in it. while it might not be escape from death, it could be numerous other things like good sex which will eventually lead to long life. Perhaps it could even be the good food, you know girlfriends cook better or maybe the lack of nagging. Whatever it is, extra marital affairs has its advantages. I recommend it to you guys planning to get married and to you married men i will only say WHAT are you waiting for.

Drogba - a highly over-rated striker, though that does not mean he's rubbish, he is just not that good.

Okocha - please spare me, you guys should read his last interview. Even the man himself acknowledged his diminishing role in his 2nd rated club.

Obafemi - i need to be convinced. i really think his game has not gotten to that level yet, he should probably leave inter for a club where he could get more games. well give it to him, he is strong and aggressive but lacks the finess of a top striker. He puts too much effort into it but it should come naturally e.g thierry. Mark my word he will probably go the way of Amokachi

ETO - while i hate to say this but truth be told, i think he probably deserves it. Apart from the over rated ivorien, he is currently the best in africa.