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Religion / Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by poopli: 8:10pm On Mar 20, 2013 |
Interesting!! |
Religion / Re: Davidylan, Striktlymi, Ihenobi, Chukkynwob: I Renouce Atheism. by poopli: 8:32am On Mar 20, 2013 |
Its been long i placed a post here because of the abuse of theists and atheists alike, the like that is tearing this thread apart but the truth need to be told. Mods you need to work on filtering bad words. The 2nd law of thermodynamics truly made evolution possible. Any biologist in the 21st century who claim that ALL laws of thermodynamics, not just the second law is irrelevant to life is truly off his mind. 1st Law - Energy is always converted in living organisms. 2nd law - Order in living organisms resulted because of the need for DNA to achieve a minimum energy state. 3rd Law - We all lose heat, a form of energy. Misunderstanding of the second law that order cannot come from chaos made creationists say that the 2nd law was against evolution. But thorough understanding of the energy(which cannot be created or destroyed) pathways in fact showed that order can come from chaos. This field is made more elaborate by quantum physics - electroconfiguration of elements and the arrangement of their electrons in orbits. Quantum physics revealed that electrons prefer a ground state always, that is, a minimum energy state. Because of this, evolution of life, from inorganic chemicals, known as abiogenesis, or more preferably by most biologists and chemists - chemical evolution, was made possible even in a time that is more chaotic than now and this is because matter prefers a minimum energy state, this state could only be achieved by forming bonds and complex chemicals that resulted into life. And indeed, life could only evolve at such time of chaos when order is really needed in disorder, this is why we do not see life evolving now - because the earth has cooled (3rd law) and the balance and equilibrium of energy state of the environment is now achieved by the presence of numerous life forms who exist by obeying the 2nd law of thermodynamics every single second they have life. Killing to live!! - increasing entropy to conserve theirs - 2nd law of thermodynamics. I must add that the 2nd law of thermodynamics CANNOT be fully understood without thorough knowledge of quantum physics. Some scientists even claim that the 2nd law is immediately connected to the big b.ang because continuous disorder in the cosmic egg reached a critical stage in which energy could no longer be held in a point and so exploded, exactly like a supernova of star. The 2nd law of thermodynamics is not just related to life and holds life together, its perfectly related to and perfectly explains "the existence of something rather than nothing" - the philosopher's mystery question - for those who know about that. I for one love to talk about the 2nd law, it is applicable to everything in the cosmos, both natural and artificial. We can look into our PC and understand the second law, or look into a cell and understand why it formed at all and stays intact without help of the supernatural. Ooman, however right, is harsh in treatment of this matter. Perhaps because your "opponent" continues to claim life is irrelevant to the 2nd law. I will not condemn you because someone saying life is irrelevant to the second law is like saying electricity is irrelevant in powering a computer. I dont think i would have approached this any better but still, i would do away with the rants and raves. 1 Like |
Religion / Re: How Atheism Has Helped Me Greatly by poopli: 1:15pm On Feb 21, 2013 |
more people becoming atheists this days |
Religion / Re: From An Unknown Author: A Proven Fact by poopli: 1:11pm On Feb 21, 2013 |
ooman: "A statement was made by an unknown author: |
Religion / Re: Why Religion Section Will Always Turn Christians Into Atheists, Not Vice Versa by poopli: 12:58pm On Feb 21, 2013 |
ckkris: this is because of immigration of people and civilization of people and not because of xtianity. USA helps alot of country too. |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 12:45pm On Feb 21, 2013 |
Logicboy03: it is true, organic evoltuion is the only explanation for all life, even though we dont have proof yet, it is the only possibility |
Religion / Re: You Think You Are Smart Because Your Are An Atheist?...oh Please!!! by poopli: 12:42pm On Feb 21, 2013 |
striktlymi: can i join? |
Religion / Re: Faith: What It Means To An Unprovable concept of God for the religious. by poopli: 12:40pm On Feb 21, 2013 |
this is one of the reasons i love ooman, his philosophies, keep up the good work, you are great 1 Like |
Religion / Re: Why Religion Section Will Always Turn Christians Into Atheists, Not Vice Versa by poopli: 8:26pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
Logicboy03: waiting for deepsight and co 2 Likes |
Celebrities / Re: Elton John And Husband Show-Off Baby Elijah by poopli: 8:14pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
there is absolutely nothing wrong with homosexuality. People have the right to live |
Religion / Re: Why Religion Section Will Always Turn Christians Into Atheists, Not Vice Versa by poopli: 8:12pm On Feb 19, 2013 |
ooman: @ OP very true very very |
Religion / Re: A Sermon For Those Who belong to satan by poopli: 10:44am On Feb 19, 2013 |
ekenedegreat: were u created by satan? You werent by God either |
Religion / Re: What Atheism Is Really All About: A Must Read by poopli: 9:44pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
ayswags: When they die they will know if hell exist or not but then it will be too late to know you have only wasted your time believing in fairy tales. |
Religion / Re: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by poopli: 9:43pm On Feb 18, 2013 |
front page "What Atheism Is Really All About: A Must Read " by ooman plsssssssssssss. Its worth it. |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 11:31pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
davidylan: Yes its funny even teens like you can now use the internet |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 11:19pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
I told y'all people deserted me because of my believes and you say that is not discrimination? Bye bye |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 11:06pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
chukkynwob: You know u r right. Am also tired of people twisting facts to fit their arguement. |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 11:04pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: I also disagree with aliens seeding life same way I disagree with god creating it. I think chemical evolution holds the perfect answers, though the theory lacks any backing yet. |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 10:57pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
chukkynwob: Religious discrimination is valuing or treating a person or group differently because of what they do or do not believe. Specifically, it is when adherents of different religions (or denominations) are treated unequally, either before the law or in institutional settings such as employment or housing Separating people and denying them simple rights because of their believe is discrimination |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 10:53pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
davidylan: YOU KNOW, FREEDOM FROM THE BIBLICAL DOGMA, ISLAMIC DOGMA AND THREAT OF HELL IS FREEDOM INDEED. HOWEVER, THE FREEDOM I MEANT IS FREEDOM TO LIVE YOUR LIFE WITHOIT BEING TOLD WHAT A GOD DOES OR DOES NOT WANT. |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 10:47pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
chukkynwob: Yes you have the right to hang with whomever, but it becomes discrimination when you reject/stop hanging out with someone because he has a separate believe from yours |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 10:42pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: When did I make you understand I dont want to hang with them. Breaking a friendship is one thing, separating yourself from another because of their believes is another. |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 10:38pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
[quote author=davidylan] This is actually a lie. 1. Atheists dont really want freedom. this nonsensical falsehood is synonymous with muslims saying saudi arabia is "peaceful"... well it is so because the law strictly forbids any religion outside of islam and prohibits non-muslims from going to certain "holy grounds". So atheists keep saying they want freedom but what they really want is a society that is free of christianity (lets face it, they dont care about other religions) and its moral obligations. If all atheists wanted was freedom then why is it that evangelical/militant atheism is most strident in the FREEST nations on earth where freedom of religion or lack of religion is enshrined in the law? 2. There are a large number of atheists who absolutely oppose homosexuality on secular grounds.[/quothe] YOU KNOW YOU ARE RIGHT. I COULD USE A WORLD FREE OF ALL DOGMAS, BIGOTRY AND PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN FAIRY TALES. WHAT WE ARE AGAINST IS NOT THE PEOPLE, ITS THE SILLINESS OF RELIGION THAT HAS ENSLAVED YOU. ALL OF YOU NEED FREEDOM FROM RELIGION. |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 10:37pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
[quote author=davidylan] This is actually a lie. 1. Atheists dont really want freedom. this nonsensical falsehood is synonymous with muslims saying saudi arabia is "peaceful"... well it is so because the law strictly forbids any religion outside of islam and prohibits non-muslims from going to certain "holy grounds". So atheists keep saying they want freedom but what they really want is a society that is free of christianity (lets face it, they dont care about other religions) and its moral obligations. If all atheists wanted was freedom then why is it that evangelical/militant atheism is most strident in the FREEST nations on earth where freedom of religion or lack of religion is enshrined in the law? 2. There are a large number of atheists who absolutely oppose homosexuality on secular grounds.[/quothe] YOU KNOW YOU ARE RIGHT. I COULD USE A WORLD FREE OF ALL DOGMAS, BIGOTRY AND PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN FAIRY TALES. EHAT WE ARE AGAINST IS NOT THE PEOPLE, ITS THE SILLINESS OF RILIIN THAT HAS ENSLAVED YOU. ALL OF YOU NEED FREEDOM FROM RELIGION. |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 10:27pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
davidylan: I already responded to it dunce. |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 10:25pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: The discrimination is that they ostracized me for my believes. Do you understand now or must I spoon feed you? |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 10:23pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
@chukkynwob Equity treatment is what I lack everywhere for my believes. Also is the fusillade of abuse here on nairaland. PLS DO NOT FORGET YOUR FAVORITY LINE: THE FOOL SAYS THERE IS NO GOD. Now how about that. NOW YOU SEE THAT DISCRIMINATION STEMS FROM YOUR LITTLE OLD BIBLE. |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 10:16pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Mr_Anony: Am not seeking to be friends with them. THEY LEFT ME SIMPLY BECAUSE I LEFT FAITH, WE WERE FRIENDS BEFORE . Why do you all xtians think the same stu.pid way on nairaland? |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 10:13pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Enigma: I disagree What most atheist agree to is freedom which include homosexuality and abortion which most xtians think is wrong. Also is strip clubs and divorce, but the fact is that I also see nothing wrong in working as a stripper or divorcing as long as no one is getting hurt. If both parties want to split, why force them to stay together in the name of religion. What you think are immoral are actually the dogmas that are written in the bible. Away from the bible, there is nothing like immorality. Ofscourse everyone knows stealing, killing and such behavior THAT HURTS ANOTHER PERSON is bad and no atheist, both in history and now support such behavior. |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 10:08pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
davidylan: You are not worth any further replies. |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 9:56pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
davidylan: You are the dumbest person on nairaland to ever engage in REASONABLE DISCUSSION.this is the second time I will be telling you this. You always advertisement your lack of basic understanding of any matter |
Religion / Re: The Cowardice Of Atheism by poopli: 9:53pm On Feb 17, 2013 |
Seriously this is not something to joke with, we live in a country where people are very stereotypical against atheists, some even think atheim is synonymoua to immorality. Xtians will move away from you because they believe one might be an hindrance to their prayer. Your position at work is also threatened. You just cant be an open atheist in nigeria and live peacefully. 1 Like |
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