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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 10:41am On May 08, 2021 |
Wuoche: Inform google to update their pics. Google map is not satellite images that are as current as it gets 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 10:43am On May 08, 2021 |
AfroCircus: Nonsense this doesn’t represent Lagos. Go tell google update their images. We all sat here and watched videos on Lagos cbd and that sure so t what we saw in most of this street the drive through showed. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:45am On May 08, 2021 |
Transportation plans do not make car traffic move....tell us how this has been implemented. Are you using FM stations to urge people to move their cars ![]() Kenya has many plans - but for Nairobi metro - we have NAMATA that is pursuing BRT, Commuter Raila and NMT - Not idle talk - but there is progress in all these fronts. Bus Rapid Transit System-A bus-based public transport system designed to improve capacity and reliability within the NMA. Commuter Rail System -An integrated passenger rail transport service that primarily operates within the NMA metropolitan are connecting commuters to various locations. Non-Motorised Transport-Increasing the use of bicycles and the ease of walking in urban environments that allow residents to easily access affordable public transit or to bike safely. Just30: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:46am On May 08, 2021 |
AfroCircus:did you realize they moved cars out of 50% to 75% of the neighborhood? Cars are driven on the exterior roads of the neighborhood which has been turn into major roads, while streets in neighborhoods have become mostly pedestrian area. In Barcelona the reclaimed roads have not been converted to bike lanes but rather a pedestrian area that have play grounds and walk ways that bicycles can use. So like I said, you don't need bike lanes especially when there are no cars on the street. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 10:48am On May 08, 2021 |
rvp20182:So you also want to say that South Africa, the country with more business investments outside her land can't set up a business in Kenya? Your system is flawed, just take the L and go sleep. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:49am On May 08, 2021 |
I know it look like CBD by Nigerian standards. I don't blame you. It certainly look more business district than what you got in \west africa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVNM8N-QnZw The road is Outering - the middle of eastland - particular section - is donholm interchange - Vlain: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 10:49am On May 08, 2021 |
AfroCircus: U are joke and u wasted ur time in this foolery. Lagos cbd road is better and more maintained than anything in Nairobi. This is just a fact that ur heckling outdated imag cannot disprove. Get something more updated. Those place has been rejuvenated. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 10:50am On May 08, 2021 |
rvp20182: Calm down I will prove it to u guys and this noise will go down the drain. Wait for it 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:53am On May 08, 2021 |
More evidence of your failed education policy. I said South Africa companies excel everywhere in Africa except kenya. We let them come and we bury them. Mzal3ndo: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:56am On May 08, 2021 |
The audacity. This part of eastland. Lower middle class part of Nairobi. Would be middle class if not upper middle class in Nigeria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDvFOmus8o&t=392s Vlain: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:58am On May 08, 2021 |
rvp20182:In Accra implemented transportation plans has already moved cars out of communities into their exteriors where major roads take the daily traffic. Public access buses and individual cars moves majority of traffic while leaving the middle of communities free for bikes and community members. People can throw parties on community streets with permit from their Districts Assembly. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 11:00am On May 08, 2021 |
rvp20182:Proof that Kenyans are idiots. Reason this, if a company can thrive in every market except one and all markets have similar characters, the failing market is the one with problems. You guys like to complain about other nations doing you bad while you play the same dirty games. the sooner you accept the facts the less it will hurt in the future. You guys have a terrible and biased business environment. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:01am On May 08, 2021 |
How was this done? Are you seriously that obtuse? Show us pictures? The least I have seen from videos - you have a serious problem of hawking right into the walkways - As for communities or estates - it mostly dirt unpaved roads. Example - This Luthuli avenue Nairobi - one of busiest street - selling electronics - was converted into walkways - and matatus removed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kfJWdMN92Q&t=59s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY5Pk7xJFzg&t=126s Just30: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Zfree: 11:04am On May 08, 2021 |
DjReddie: This is hilarious to watch. It is a slap in the face to the Ghanaians on this thread who have been desperately trying to compare the great City of Nairobi to their little city Accra. This Ghanaian vlogger was speaking his local language in the whole vlog but believe me I watched the whole thing. I got a rough idea of what he was saying in the few times he spoke a word of English. It is truly telling. The dude is ranting nonstop about how crap Accra is compared to what he was seeing in Nairobi. Let's try to dissect the content of the two vlogs; Basically this Ghanaian guy did the two vlogs in what looks like the areas around Kasarani, along Thika Superhighway. The dude was amazed by Garden City Mall. He said he had never seen anything like it in Accra. He also reminds his Ghanaian viewers that Nairobi alone has over 50 malls, while the whole of Ghana has less than 10. He also says that Kumasi, Ghanas' second city, doesn't even have a mall that can compare to the dozens of malls found in other Kenyan cities and towns. He also talks about Housing. This Ghanaian YouTuber seems to be impressed by the public housing in Kenya. He was amazed by all the Apartment buildings he was seeing. This is just around Kasarani areas. He seems to wonder why Accra has not embraced this kind of affordable public housing like in Nairobi. Believe you me, this dude mentioned the word 'Apartment' like thirty times all in awe at the blocks of apartment buildings he saw in Kasarani . He also says that in Ghana, potential tenants have to pay the whole rent six month or one year in advance. While in Nairobi you can find any house of your choice in a matter of minutes and all you need is your deposit and 1 month rent. There is a lot more that the guy talks about that only Ghanaians can understand. I know the Ghanaians in this thread won't dare translate the complete content of the vlog or comment about it because it exposes the lies they have been trying to sell here all this while. 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:06am On May 08, 2021 |
Our companies excel abroad - for our size of our economy - we are punching beyond our weight. Only TZ have their usual petty jealousy but elsewhere we are doing fine. It's really your loss - because Kenya companies could help unchain your from KABURU (boer) of South Africa. Mzal3ndo: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:15am On May 08, 2021 |
Yes the Ghanians including their president already acknowledge Nairobi to be their north star. So this Vblogger was a little late. Their president is aware - and his Beyond AId Strategy - has Nairobi pic on it's cover. I have never understood why housing would be such a challenge in West Africa. Nairobi it's question of money - you have 10 dollars - or less - you go to slums - and find a hovel - straight away - you have 30 dollars - you go to pipeline or such areas - and have 1000 houses to see - the same for any income level - there are so many houses - for any price. The highest deposit is 2 months - otherwise it's standard one month - water and electricity deposit - and you have a house - anytime anyhow. Kenya house hunting is an afternoon affair - and you can move in the same day. You can land in the airport and have rented out a house the same day. There is almost TO LET sign everywhere. Zfree: 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:18am On May 08, 2021 |
rvp20182:It was done just by improving major access roads and closing off neighborhood roads by using a cul de sac planning for neighborhoods. In Accra Central, each 6 by 4 grid planning blocks are car free and has been populated by pedestrians while leaving the exterior roads for cars. It's good to see that your city authorities are now thinking and implementing plans with people in mind. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:24am On May 08, 2021 |
Is that why Africa Traveller talked of terrible traffic jams all over Accra. Doesn't quite make sense? I guess it coz most of Kenya estates are already cul de sac...so in Accra you could drive through everywhere? I find the care free and pedestrian had to belief. What I have seen - is crazy market days - where hawkers are allowed to put their umbrellas on major roads and sell their wares. Just30: |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:24am On May 08, 2021 |
Zfree:So you still want to compare the small Nairobi to a historic city like Accra that best it in all things? This is a Ghanaian taking part in a protest to put pressure on Government just like how we put pressure on all govt to make sure we get the best out of them. This is how come we have become so developed. By holding our leaders to account. This guy was not even comparing anything in kenya to Ghana because there is very little to compare. He was comparing his years of travel around the developed world to Ghana. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:29am On May 08, 2021 |
You have a talent for propaganda ![]() ![]() Just30: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:33am On May 08, 2021 |
rvp20182:Yes He was staying near the Tetteh Quashie interchange which is one of the traffic bottleneck in ACCRA that has yet to be redeveloped. Contracts have already been awarded to redeveloped the interchange to remove the traffic there. Kenya does not have any specific planning for it communities, no kenyan community has that kind of planning. In Accra, you can drive through most places as long as it is a public access road. You can go and study the Cul De Sac planning, community roads lead to nowhere but the community while access roads lead to major highways. Hawkers are permitted at traffics to do their business That has created means for the poor to make a living in our expensive to live in cities without having to result to erecting huge slums all around like you see in Kenya. This is part of the reasons why extreme poverty is almost eliminated in Ghana. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:36am On May 08, 2021 |
rvp20182:the guy is in Kenya and taking part in activism in Ghana using his voice just like Ghanaians all around the world are doing. He never compared kenya to Ghana because he knows that Ghana is above kenya in All things. You are so desperate to place Kenya on the same level as Ghana but its hasn't work because you have never succeeded in matching us in development. Woyale 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 11:40am On May 08, 2021 |
rvp20182: Why u are still taking baby steps on just a stretch of road”thika” Lagos continually leave u in the dust. Lagos adds more boat with new route and about 15 new jetties along the coastline under construction. Just like we did and still doing for our brt. 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 11:41am On May 08, 2021 |
rvp20182: Yes the audacity and I will live up to that audacity 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:41am On May 08, 2021 |
Ignoring the other balderdash - you have many slums - and secondly, slum is not where people do business - it's where they sleep. Slums are in South Africa - how can it miss in poor Ghana. The slums are reality until a country becomes developed (GDP per capita at least 12,000) or at best 20,000K. Just30: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:42am On May 08, 2021 |
Why not buy a ferry morons? How many people will those boat carry - a city of 20M people - some sleeping 5 days in traffic. Mombasa ferry carries thousands.These or even large vessels is what lagos need. NOT KAMIKAZE BOATS ![]() https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRvqAENy-jo Vlain: 1 Like
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:50am On May 08, 2021 |
rvp20182:Sorry we don't have many slums ![]() ![]() ![]() Did I say slums was where people do business? Your brain must be freezing again. ![]() ![]() Did I say Ghana does not have slums? Even developed countries have slums from the US to England to France 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:54am On May 08, 2021 |
Nobody cares about what you say. You should already know that. We care about WHAT emperical data SAYS Secondly ALMOST the entire Ghana's Accra and Kumasi - are for me SLUMS - coz it informal - has no sewage - no roads - and look really shady But here is quick google search -About 45% of Accra residents live in some form of slum housing. These areas are overcrowded, have limited access to piped water and poor sanitation facilities. ... Old Fadama is the largest informal settlement in the city of Accra. Approximately 5.5 million people live in slums in Ghana. Just30: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfroCircus: 11:55am On May 08, 2021 |
Vlain:Last I was there, that's what I was made to believe. Then which streets are the best in Lagos, give us names |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 11:58am On May 08, 2021 |
rvp20182: Smh!!! U must be stupid.so I will serious compare this modern 21st censor to that pan of metal that ferries people around in a chaotic way just like the chaotic Marathi. U stand in troops with the scorching sun frying ur brain on the sea whilst inhaling the body of our of the throngs of people choking ur breath- able space. Smh!!! What an idiot in this 21st. U Mombasa backward primitive style of movement is as a result of absence of bridge to move sea of people,goods and vehicles to the other side of town-hence why u had to settle for this primitivity right in this 21st century. FYI lagferry has a passenger boarding capacity of 50 people max- all seated on cUshioned chair with air conditioner and comfortable view of Lagos metropolis and the coastline- now this is very peaceful,sane and serene than ur Matatu on sea ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Vlain: 12:00pm On May 08, 2021 |
AfroCircus: What rubbish!!! How would u tell me to give u the best street in Lagos. Lagos is a big metropolis, u keeping seeing better streets as u explore. Did ur visit take u to Ikotun,vi,EAC and the rest. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AfroCircus: 12:02pm On May 08, 2021 |
Vlain:If you're talking of the video from 3 pages back, that's the main road linking MMA and Lagos Island, a highway. Give us names of those upmarket streets in Lagos and we'll look em up |
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