Wuoche:


Nairobi streets are much better than any street in Nigeria, the problem with you is that any good picture from Kenya you claim that they are edited. Now I want you to also tell us that those Google map images are also edited.

Inform google to update their pics. Google map is not satellite images that are as current as it gets

AfroCircus:
More of Broad Street and it's feeder streets

Nonsense this doesn’t represent Lagos. Go tell google update their images. We all sat here and watched videos on Lagos cbd and that sure so t what we saw in most of this street the drive through showed.

Transportation plans do not make car traffic move....tell us how this has been implemented. Are you using FM stations to urge people to move their cars or Juju.

Kenya has many plans - but for Nairobi metro - we have NAMATA that is pursuing BRT, Commuter Raila and NMT - Not idle talk - but there is progress in all these fronts.

Bus Rapid Transit System-A bus-based public transport system designed to improve capacity and reliability within the NMA.
Commuter Rail System -An integrated passenger rail transport service that primarily operates within the NMA metropolitan are connecting commuters to various locations.
Non-Motorised Transport-Increasing the use of bicycles and the ease of walking in urban environments that allow residents to easily access affordable public transit or to bike safely.

Just30:
We have the Ghana national transportation plan

Which has introduced BRT in Accra and Kumasi, with the Kumasi Light Rail still under going feasibility studies.

Our National transportation plans have made car traffic moved onto major will leaving the middle of communities free of cars just like Barcelona is doing.

The only difference is, Ghana have not turn the roads in those communities into play grounds.

Good your NMS has now seen the future

AfroCircus:

The bold part earmarks my point, certain parts. So what happens with the rest of the city where cars can go willy-nilly? Then the French policy bans cars from half the city-center on Friday's, so what happens during the rest of the week?

It's only a small portion of the French capital that's permanently car free. In fact, the largest car free zone in Europe is just a small portion around the Brussels' city square, its stock exchange, and Rue Neuve avenue.

Hence why bike lanes are important throughout the cities.

did you realize they moved cars out of 50% to 75% of the neighborhood?
Cars are driven on the exterior roads of the neighborhood which has been turn into major roads, while streets in neighborhoods have become mostly pedestrian area.

In Barcelona the reclaimed roads have not been converted to bike lanes but rather a pedestrian area that have play grounds and walk ways that bicycles can use.

So like I said, you don't need bike lanes especially when there are no cars on the street.

rvp20182:
The ease of doing business captures all that. Just say Tanzanians have no experience setting up business outside their country. Kenya has open door policy. Tanzania honestly cannot hack in Kenya - if South Africans companies cannot - please save your money and run. Kenya has brutal competition - and those that fail or find they cannot come - and get favours they normally get from banana republics - they start bad-mouthing kenya.

Setting up a company in kenya is easy and free for all - you don't need to see a minister or name - but be ready for competition.

There is a reason why our economy is a largest non-mineral economy in SSA - it down to a very strong private sector that is guaranteed to give you the most brutal competition.

So you also want to say that South Africa, the country with more business investments outside her land can't set up a business in Kenya? Your system is flawed, just take the L and go sleep.

I know it look like CBD by Nigerian standards. I don't blame you. It certainly look more business district than what you got in \west africa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVNM8N-QnZw
The road is Outering - the middle of eastland - particular section - is donholm interchange -

Vlain:



That is Nairobi cbd, and I will prove it. I am just waiting for the right time to bite like a serpent.

AfroCircus:
More of South C, tell me if it passes for a slum in Lagos

U are joke and u wasted ur time in this foolery. Lagos cbd road is better and more maintained than anything in Nairobi. This is just a fact that ur heckling outdated imag cannot disprove. Get something more updated. Those place has been rejuvenated.

rvp20182:
I know it look like CBD by Nigerian standards. I don't blame you. It certainly look more business district than what you got in \west africa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiGa5WjMjko
The road is Outering - the middle of eastland - particular section - is donholm interchange -

Calm down I will prove it to u guys and this noise will go down the drain. Wait for it

More evidence of your failed education policy. I said South Africa companies excel everywhere in Africa except kenya. We let them come and we bury them.

Mzal3ndo:

So you also want to say that South Africa, the country with more business investments outside her land can't set up a business in Kenya? Your system is flawed, just take the L and go sleep.

The audacity. This part of eastland. Lower middle class part of Nairobi. Would be middle class if not upper middle class in Nigeria


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDvFOmus8o&t=392s

Vlain:


Calm down I will prove it to u guys and this noise will go down the drain. Wait for it

rvp20182:
Transportation plans do not make car traffic move....tell us how this has been implemented. Are you using FM stations to urge people to move their cars or Juju.

Kenya has many plans - but for Nairobi metro - we have NAMATA that is pursuing BRT, Commuter Raila and NMT - Not idle talk - but there is progress in all these fronts.

Bus Rapid Transit System-A bus-based public transport system designed to improve capacity and reliability within the NMA.
Commuter Rail System -An integrated passenger rail transport service that primarily operates within the NMA metropolitan are connecting commuters to various locations.
Non-Motorised Transport-Increasing the use of bicycles and the ease of walking in urban environments that allow residents to easily access affordable public transit or to bike safely.

In Accra implemented transportation plans has already moved cars out of communities into their exteriors where major roads take the daily traffic.

Public access buses and individual cars moves majority of traffic while leaving the middle of communities free for bikes and community members.

People can throw parties on community streets with permit from their Districts Assembly.

rvp20182:
More evidence of your failed education policy. I said South Africa companies excel everywhere in Africa except kenya. We let them come and we bury them.

Proof that Kenyans are idiots. Reason this, if a company can thrive in every market except one and all markets have similar characters, the failing market is the one with problems. You guys like to complain about other nations doing you bad while you play the same dirty games. the sooner you accept the facts the less it will hurt in the future. You guys have a terrible and biased business environment.

How was this done? Are you seriously that obtuse? Show us pictures?
The least I have seen from videos - you have a serious problem of hawking right into the walkways -

As for communities or estates - it mostly dirt unpaved roads.

Example - This Luthuli avenue Nairobi - one of busiest street - selling electronics - was converted into walkways - and matatus removed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kfJWdMN92Q&t=59s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY5Pk7xJFzg&t=126s

Just30:
In Accra implemented transportation plans has already moved cars out of communities into their exteriors where major roads take the daily traffic.

Public access buses and individual cars moves majority of traffic while leaving the middle of communities free for bikes and community members.

People can throw parties on community streets with permit from their Districts Assembly.

DjReddie:
WATCH THIS GHANIAN YOUTUBER SHOCKED HOW NAIROBI LOOKS, (MAY 2021) - can someone translate please ...!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqnJbNZBy9A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k_-ZnXY-1A

This is hilarious to watch. It is a slap in the face to the Ghanaians on this thread who have been desperately trying to compare the great City of Nairobi to their little city Accra.

This Ghanaian vlogger was speaking his local language in the whole vlog but believe me I watched the whole thing. I got a rough idea of what he was saying in the few times he spoke a word of English. It is truly telling. The dude is ranting nonstop about how crap Accra is compared to what he was seeing in Nairobi.

Let's try to dissect the content of the two vlogs;
Basically this Ghanaian guy did the two vlogs in what looks like the areas around Kasarani, along Thika Superhighway. The dude was amazed by Garden City Mall. He said he had never seen anything like it in Accra. He also reminds his Ghanaian viewers that Nairobi alone has over 50 malls, while the whole of Ghana has less than 10. He also says that Kumasi, Ghanas' second city, doesn't even have a mall that can compare to the dozens of malls found in other Kenyan cities and towns.

He also talks about Housing. This Ghanaian YouTuber seems to be impressed by the public housing in Kenya. He was amazed by all the Apartment buildings he was seeing. This is just around Kasarani areas. He seems to wonder why Accra has not embraced this kind of affordable public housing like in Nairobi. Believe you me, this dude mentioned the word 'Apartment' like thirty times all in awe at the blocks of apartment buildings he saw in Kasarani .

He also says that in Ghana, potential tenants have to pay the whole rent six month or one year in advance. While in Nairobi you can find any house of your choice in a matter of minutes and all you need is your deposit and 1 month rent.

There is a lot more that the guy talks about that only Ghanaians can understand. I know the Ghanaians in this thread won't dare translate the complete content of the vlog or comment about it because it exposes the lies they have been trying to sell here all this while.

Our companies excel abroad - for our size of our economy - we are punching beyond our weight. Only TZ have their usual petty jealousy but elsewhere we are doing fine. It's really your loss - because Kenya companies could help unchain your from KABURU (boer) of South Africa.

Mzal3ndo:

Proof that Kenyans are idiots. Reason this, if a company can thrive in every market except one and all markets have similar characters, the failing market is the one with problems. You guys like to complain about other nations doing you bad while you play the same dirty games. the sooner you accept the facts the less it will hurt in the future. You guys have a terrible and biased business environment.

Yes the Ghanians including their president already acknowledge Nairobi to be their north star. So this Vblogger was a little late. Their president is aware - and his Beyond AId Strategy - has Nairobi pic on it's cover.

I have never understood why housing would be such a challenge in West Africa.

Nairobi it's question of money - you have 10 dollars - or less - you go to slums - and find a hovel - straight away - you have 30 dollars - you go to pipeline or such areas - and have 1000 houses to see - the same for any income level - there are so many houses - for any price.

The highest deposit is 2 months - otherwise it's standard one month - water and electricity deposit - and you have a house - anytime anyhow.

Kenya house hunting is an afternoon affair - and you can move in the same day. You can land in the airport and have rented out a house the same day. There is almost TO LET sign everywhere.

Zfree:


This is hilarious to watch. It is a slap in the face to the Ghanaians on this thread who have been desperately trying to compare the great City of Nairobi to their little city Accra.

This Ghanaian vlogger was speaking his local language in the whole vlog but believe me I watched the whole thing. I got a rough idea of what he was saying in the few times he spoke a word of English. It is was truly telling. The dude was ranting nonstop about how crap Accra was compared to what he was seeing in Nairobi.

Let's try to dissect the content of the vlogs;
Basically this Ghanaian guy did the two vlogs in what looks like the areas around Kasarani, along Thika Superhighway. The dude was amazed by Garden City Mall. He said he had never seen anything like it in Accra. He also reminds his Ghanaian viewers that Nairobi alone has over 50 malls, while the whole of Ghana has less than 10. He also says that Kumasi, Ghanas' second city, doesn't even have a mall that can compare to the dozens of malls found in other Kenyan cities and towns.

He also talks about Housing. This Ghanaians vlogger seems to be impressed by the public housing in Kenya. He was amazed by all the Apartment buildings he was seeing. This is just around Kasarani areas. He seems to wonder why Accra has not embraced this kind of affordable public housing like in Nairobi. Believe you me, this dude mentioned the word 'Apartment' like thirty times all in awe at the blocks of apartment buildings he saw in Kasarani .

He also says that in Ghana, potential tenants have to pay the whole rent six month or one year in advance. While in Nairobi you can find any house of your choice in a matter of minutes and all you need is your deposit and 1 month rent.

There is a lot more that the guy talks about that only Ghanaians can understand. I know the Ghanaians in this thread won't dare translate the complete content of the vlog or comment about it because it exposes the lies they have been trying to sell here all this while.

rvp20182:
How was this done? Are you seriously that obtuse? Show us pictures?
The least I have seen from videos - you have a serious problem of hawking right into the walkways -

As for communities or estates - it mostly dirt unpaved roads.

Example - This Luthuli avenue Nairobi - one of busiest street - selling electronics - was converted into walkways - and matatus removed


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kfJWdMN92Q&t=59s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY5Pk7xJFzg&t=126s

It was done just by improving major access roads and closing off neighborhood roads by using a cul de sac planning for neighborhoods.

In Accra Central, each 6 by 4 grid planning blocks are car free and has been populated by pedestrians while leaving the exterior roads for cars.


It's good to see that your city authorities are now thinking and implementing plans with people in mind.

Is that why Africa Traveller talked of terrible traffic jams all over Accra.
Doesn't quite make sense?
I guess it coz most of Kenya estates are already cul de sac...so in Accra you could drive through everywhere?

I find the care free and pedestrian had to belief.

What I have seen - is crazy market days - where hawkers are allowed to put their umbrellas on major roads and sell their wares.

Just30:
It was done just by improving major access roads and closing off neighborhood roads by using a cul de sac planning for neighborhoods.

In Accra Central, each 6 by 4 grid planning blocks are car free and has been populated by pedestrians while leaving the exterior roads for cars.


It's good to see that your city authorities are now thinking and implementing plans with people in mind.

Zfree:


This is hilarious to watch. It is a slap in the face to the Ghanaians on this thread who have been desperately trying to compare the great City of Nairobi to their little city Accra.

This Ghanaian vlogger was speaking his local language in the whole vlog but believe me I watched the whole thing. I got a rough idea of what he was saying in the few times he spoke a word of English. It is truly telling. The dude is ranting nonstop about how crap Accra is compared to what he was seeing in Nairobi.

Let's try to dissect the content of the two vlogs;
Basically this Ghanaian guy did the two vlogs in what looks like the areas around Kasarani, along Thika Superhighway. The dude was amazed by Garden City Mall. He said he had never seen anything like it in Accra. He also reminds his Ghanaian viewers that Nairobi alone has over 50 malls, while the whole of Ghana has less than 10. He also says that Kumasi, Ghanas' second city, doesn't even have a mall that can compare to the dozens of malls found in other Kenyan cities and towns.

He also talks about Housing. This Ghanaian YouTuber seems to be impressed by the public housing in Kenya. He was amazed by all the Apartment buildings he was seeing. This is just around Kasarani areas. He seems to wonder why Accra has not embraced this kind of affordable public housing like in Nairobi. Believe you me, this dude mentioned the word 'Apartment' like thirty times all in awe at the blocks of apartment buildings he saw in Kasarani .

He also says that in Ghana, potential tenants have to pay the whole rent six month or one year in advance. While in Nairobi you can find any house of your choice in a matter of minutes and all you need is your deposit and 1 month rent.

There is a lot more that the guy talks about that only Ghanaians can understand. I know the Ghanaians in this thread won't dare translate the complete content of the vlog or comment about it because it exposes the lies they have been trying to sell here all this while.

So you still want to compare the small Nairobi to a historic city like Accra that best it in all things?


This is a Ghanaian taking part in a protest to put pressure on Government just like how we put pressure on all govt to make sure we get the best out of them.

This is how come we have become so developed.
By holding our leaders to account.

This guy was not even comparing anything in kenya to Ghana because there is very little to compare.

He was comparing his years of travel around the developed world to Ghana.

You have a talent for propaganda So the guy chooses Kenya to compare everything but Kenya to Ghana . The BONOBO in his true element!. He twists and turns himself into knots so many times a day - the best contortionist would be proud of our bonobo here.

Just30:
So you still want to compare the small Nairobi to a historic city like Accra that best it in all things?


This is a Ghanaian taking part in a protest to put pressure on Government just like how we put pressure on all govt to make sure we get the best out of them.

This is how come we have become so developed.
By holding our leaders to account.

This guy was not even comparing anything in kenya to Ghana because there is very little to compare.

He was comparing his years of travel around the developed world to Ghana.

rvp20182:
Is that why Africa Traveller talked of terrible traffic jams all over Accra.
Doesn't quite make sense?
I guess it coz most of Kenya estates are already cul de sac...so in Accra you could drive through everywhere?

I find the care free and pedestrian had to belief.

What I have seen - is crazy market days - where hawkers are allowed to put their umbrellas on major roads and sell their wares.

Yes

He was staying near the Tetteh Quashie interchange which is one of the traffic bottleneck in ACCRA that has yet to be redeveloped.

Contracts have already been awarded to redeveloped the interchange to remove the traffic there.

Kenya does not have any specific planning for it communities, no kenyan community has that kind of planning.

In Accra, you can drive through most places as long as it is a public access road.
You can go and study the Cul De Sac planning, community roads lead to nowhere but the community while access roads lead to major highways.


Hawkers are permitted at traffics to do their business
That has created means for the poor to make a living in our expensive to live in cities without having to result to erecting huge slums all around like you see in Kenya.

This is part of the reasons why extreme poverty is almost eliminated in Ghana.

rvp20182:
You have a talent for propaganda So the guy chooses Kenya to compare everything but Kenya to Ghana . The BONOBO in his true element!. He twists and turns himself into knots so many times a day - the best contortionist would be proud of our bonobo here.

the guy is in Kenya and taking part in activism in Ghana using his voice just like Ghanaians all around the world are doing.
He never compared kenya to Ghana because he knows that Ghana is above kenya in All things.

You are so desperate to place Kenya on the same level as Ghana but its hasn't work because you have never succeeded in matching us in development.

Woyale

rvp20182:
Transportation plans do not make car traffic move....tell us how this has been implemented. Are you using FM stations to urge people to move their cars or Juju.

Kenya has many plans - but for Nairobi metro - we have NAMATA that is pursuing BRT, Commuter Raila and NMT - Not idle talk - but there is progress in all these fronts.

Bus Rapid Transit System-A bus-based public transport system designed to improve capacity and reliability within the NMA.
Commuter Rail System -An integrated passenger rail transport service that primarily operates within the NMA metropolitan are connecting commuters to various locations.
Non-Motorised Transport-Increasing the use of bicycles and the ease of walking in urban environments that allow residents to easily access affordable public transit or to bike safely.

Why u are still taking baby steps on just a stretch of road”thika” Lagos continually leave u in the dust. Lagos adds more boat with new route and about 15 new jetties along the coastline under construction. Just like we did and still doing for our brt.

rvp20182:
The audacity. This part of eastland. Lower middle class part of Nairobi. Would be middle class if not upper middle class in Nigeria


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sDvFOmus8o&t=392s

Yes the audacity and I will live up to that audacity

Ignoring the other balderdash - you have many slums - and secondly, slum is not where people do business - it's where they sleep. Slums are in South Africa - how can it miss in poor Ghana. The slums are reality until a country becomes developed (GDP per capita at least 12,000) or at best 20,000K.

Just30:
Yes

He was staying near the Tetteh Quashie interchange which is one of the traffic bottleneck in ACCRA that has yet to be redeveloped.

Contracts have already been awarded to redeveloped the interchange to remove the traffic there.

Kenya does not have any specific planning for it communities, no kenyan community has that kind of planning.

In Accra, you can drive through most places as long as it is a public access road.
You can go and study the Cul De Sac planning, community roads lead to nowhere but the community while access roads lead to major highways.


Hawkers are permitted at traffics to do their business
That has created means for the poor to make a living in our expensive to live in cities without having to result to erecting huge slums all around like you see in Kenya.

This is part of the reasons why extreme poverty is almost eliminated in Ghana.

Why not buy a ferry morons? How many people will those boat carry - a city of 20M people - some sleeping 5 days in traffic.

Mombasa ferry carries thousands.These or even large vessels is what lagos need. NOT KAMIKAZE BOATS - that look like boats for tourist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRvqAENy-jo

Vlain:


Why u are still taking baby steps on just a stretch of road”thika” Lagos continually leave u in the dust. Lagos adds more boat with new route and about 15 new jetties along the coastline under construction. Just like we did and still doing for our brt.

rvp20182:
Ignoring the other balderdash - you have many slums - and secondly, slum is not where people do business - it's where they sleep. Slums are in South Africa - how can it miss in poor Ghana. The slums are reality until a country becomes developed (GDP per capita at least 12,000) or at best 20,000K.

Sorry we don't have many slums

Did I say slums was where people do business?

Your brain must be freezing again.

Did I say Ghana does not have slums?

Even developed countries have slums

from the US to England to France

Nobody cares about what you say. You should already know that. We care about WHAT emperical data SAYS
Secondly ALMOST the entire Ghana's Accra and Kumasi - are for me SLUMS - coz it informal - has no sewage - no roads - and look really shady

But here is quick google search -About 45% of Accra residents live in some form of slum housing. These areas are overcrowded, have limited access to piped water and poor sanitation facilities. ... Old Fadama is the largest informal settlement in the city of Accra.

Approximately 5.5 million people live in slums in Ghana.

Just30:
Sorry we don't have many slums

Did I say slums was where people do business?

Your brain must be freezing again.

Did I say Ghana does not have slums?

Even developed countries have slums

from the US to England to France

Vlain:



Hell nah

Last I was there, that's what I was made to believe.

Then which streets are the best in Lagos, give us names

rvp20182:
Why not buy a ferry morons? How many people will those boat carry - a city of 20M people - some sleeping 5 days in traffic.

Mombasa ferry carries thousands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRvqAENy-jo

Smh!!! U must be stupid.so I will serious compare this modern 21st censor to that pan of metal that ferries people around in a chaotic way just like the chaotic Marathi. U stand in troops with the scorching sun frying ur brain on the sea whilst inhaling the body of our of the throngs of people choking ur breath- able space. Smh!!! What an idiot in this 21st. U Mombasa backward primitive style of movement is as a result of absence of bridge to move sea of people,goods and vehicles to the other side of town-hence why u had to settle for this primitivity right in this 21st century.

FYI lagferry has a passenger boarding capacity of 50 people max- all seated on cUshioned chair with air conditioner and comfortable view of Lagos metropolis and the coastline- now this is very peaceful,sane and serene than ur Matatu on sea

AfroCircus:

Last I was there, that's what I was made to believe.

Then which streets are the best in Lagos, give us names

What rubbish!!! How would u tell me to give u the best street in Lagos. Lagos is a big metropolis, u keeping seeing better streets as u explore.

Did ur visit take u to Ikotun,vi,EAC and the rest.

Vlain:


Nonsense this doesn’t represent Lagos. Go tell google update their images. We all sat here and watched videos on Lagos cbd and that sure so t what we saw in most of this street the drive through showed.

If you're talking of the video from 3 pages back, that's the main road linking MMA and Lagos Island, a highway.

Give us names of those upmarket streets in Lagos and we'll look em up