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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 11:42am On May 26, 2021
timbros:


Before we start digressing, let me repeat the subject under discussion. Euros vs World Cup, which is tougher to win?

I am not against the European slots vs their counterparts. The point is, to whom more is given, more is expected. Compare the slots that Europe has with trophies won, you will see that Europe have underperformed in World Cup woefully.

2006
2010
2014
2018


How else can dominance be expressed? Argentina and Brazil have been the only ones that could rival European countries because of their footballing culture but drug wars and conflicts have damaged that , how many young promising footballers from Brazil, Argentina or Uruguay, do you know today?

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:50am On May 26, 2021
BlueAngel444:

We get too many attackers no striker or goal scorer

Mount, Havertz, Werner, Pulisic, CHO, Ziyech,


Barkley, RLC, Abraham

If we can sell players and steal Auba from Arsenal

Aubameyang at 31 is a big gamble considering his recent form.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 12:05pm On May 26, 2021
Trevor012:



Grealish vs Bruno premier league stats

Chance created from open play...... Grealish 70 in 26matches while Bruno 77 in 37matches.


Big chances created Grealish 14 in 26matches while Bruno 20 in 37matches


Assist.... Grealish 10 in 26matches while Bruno 12 in 37matches


Goals from open play...... Grealish 6 in 26matches while Bruno 9 in 37matches.


But Agenda and Slander ok.

Once you start discussing 'open play' I'm not interested. Maybe you should write to the FA and tell them to remove freekicks, corners, throwins, and penalties from the game.

Bruno has been absolutely vital to Manyoo, and has carried them on his back for 2 straight seasons. Being the main man at Villa is not the same as being the main man at Manyoo.

Dean Smith the Aston Villa Manger had this to say about Grealish absence
Jack being out has been an opportunity for others. I think our results have been indifferent like many other clubs in the Premier League since New Year. Not many teams have got any rhythm.

“Our results have been indifferent with Jack in the team as well as out of the team over the last eight or nine games.

We put in a really good performance without him at Leeds and should have got a result against Sheffield United without him.

Like I said, I will back the agenda. Let's just leave it at that

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 12:10pm On May 26, 2021
nihilistjnr:


[s] Once you start discussing 'open play' I'm not interested. Maybe you should write to the FA and tell them to remove freekicks, corners, throwins, and penalties from the game.

Bruno has been absolutely vital to Manyoo, and has carried them on his back for 2 straight seasons. Being the main man at Villa is not the same as being the main man at Manyoo.

Dean Smith the Aston Villa Manger had this to say about Grealish absence


Like I said, I will back the agenda. Let's just leave it at that [/s]
If you are not dropping stats on how picking Grealish over Bruno is an agenda and slander am not interested. The stats I posted already proves how ridiculously good Grealish is.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 12:15pm On May 26, 2021
Trevor012:

[s]If you are not dropping stats on how picking Grealish over Bruno is an agenda and slander am not interested. The stats I posted already proves how ridiculously good Grealish is. [/s]

The Aston Villa Manager himself told you that he did not miss Grealish in his team, and team performance with or without Grealish is the same.

There is no stat in this world that can counter that. Them no born Ole well to say the same about Bruno.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 12:17pm On May 26, 2021
nihilistjnr:


[s] The Aston Villa Manager himself told you that he did not miss Grealish in his team, and team performance with or without Grealish is the same.

There is no stat in this world that can counter that. Them no born Ole well to say the same about Bruno. [/s]
K

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Odunharry(m): 12:34pm On May 26, 2021
nihilistjnr:


Grealish to Bruno

I dont know whether to be amused or appalled at such slander. Let the agenda agend sha. Ride on bro we dey ya back grin
That guy hate Bruno no be small.

He even thinks Bruno is the reasn Martial was out of form earlier the season.

United thread will tell you more.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 12:46pm On May 26, 2021
Odunharry:

That guy hate Bruno no be small.

He even thinks Bruno is the reasn Martial was out of form earlier the season.

United thread will tell you more.

So the guy na your fellow scumrade sef.

Well, if he wants to slander penandez I'm all for it cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 12:59pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:
This tournament won’t pass France or England.

I’ve gone through the squads of France, England, Portugal and Belgium.

Portugal no get good subs for backup, Belgium don’t have straightforward serious players, just fancy players with high price tags.

England is a complete team, thou I don’t rate their coach. France is so much complete too.

I don’t see any team outplaying France or England in this tournament. I don’t.

Will you put your money on this ? Folks will be surprised when a totally different team wins it.

You can’t accurately predict something like this
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:01pm On May 26, 2021
Leyqute:


Will you put your money on this ? Folks will be surprised when a totally different team wins it.

You can’t accurately predict something like this
We’ve passed that generation where any team can just win a tournament.

France, England and maybe Portugal is winning this tournament.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:02pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

Let me help you to direct it properly. ibime you have a mail sir lol

That's how we know players that engage with opposition frequently unlike escorts that will be jogging 5 yards behind and never engage to get dribbled. Plus those who play more matches against those who chop bench.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:06pm On May 26, 2021
Ibime:


That's how we know players that engage with opposition frequently unlike escorts that will be jogging 5 yards behind and never engage to get dribbled. Plus those who play more matches against those who chop bench.
Like swz123 said A definition of all gingers no efficiency.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:07pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

Like swz123 said A definition of all gingers no efficiency.

When you escort all day, nobody dribbles you

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:12pm On May 26, 2021
Passes gon. Number two in the league

Tackles. Number 3

Escorts who never need to be dribbled, who just jog while opposition run past them will never show up on dribbled stats

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:19pm On May 26, 2021
Ibime:
Passes gon. Number two in the league

Tackles. Number 3

Escorts who never need to be dribbled, who just jog while opposition run past them will never show up on dribbled stats
By your definition then escorts should be the ones getting dribbled more since they are useless and easily bypassed unlike the almighty Højbjerg but it's the opposite here. Maybe he is actually all ginger with no efficiency. cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 1:28pm On May 26, 2021
timbros:


Let me be clear here. I am not discussing club football. The discussion is Euros vs World Cup. None of them is club competition.

If European team from the "toughest" competition, Euros, have more than double the slots of other continents, then it should be easier for us to be seeing and all European semi finals every tournament.

No other continent have more than 5 slots but Europe have 13 slots! Tell me how they wouldn't be dominating World Cup trophy haul if they really have the toughest continental competition.

Europe dominates world football. Simple.

And you’re looking at things without taking other variables into consideration apart from sheer number of participants.

The fact that European countries have more slots in the World Cup is not really to their own advantage, as you thought. With probability it would seem so; 13/32 is way higher than 5/32. But it isn’t the entire truth. Spain would prefer to meet Ghana than France in the World Cup.

European teams are the toughest teams in the competition. So European teams mostly eliminate European teams.

If you pitch one European team, say Germany, against teams from other parts of the world, 7 out of 10 times they’ll win. But with another European team it’s usually 50/50 or 40/60.

So even if there are 5 European teams in the tourno, they’ll just beat everybody else and get to the final. Their path to the final will be easier.

You think England wouldn’t have a better chance to get to the last World Cup final if they had met Peru, South Korea or Equatorial Guinea in the semis instead of Croatia? The odds of them winning reduces when it’s against another European team than if it wasn’t.

They get to more semis and finals because they’re the best, not because of their numbers in the competition.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:28pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

By your definition then escorts should be the ones getting dribbled more since they are useless and easily bypassed unlike the almighty Højbjerg but it's the opposite here. Maybe he is actually all ginger with no efficiency. cheesy
Escorts don’t mark, they don’t face opponents, they don’t attempt to challenge them.

They escort them to do what they want to do and how they want to do it. How can a player dribble an escort that didn’t challenge him?

Una no dey watch ball?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 1:31pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

We’ve passed that generation where any team can just win a tournament.

France, England and maybe Portugal is winning this tournament.

I see you’ve added Portugal to the list. Care to expand it? You’ve got like 24 different choices o grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:33pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

By your definition then escorts should be the ones getting dribbled more since they are useless and easily bypassed unlike the almighty Højbjerg but it's the opposite here. Maybe he is actually all ginger with no efficiency. cheesy

No, escorts don't engage because they don't get there.

Every player loses approximately half their duels.

The more you duel, the more you lose. Also the more you win. Escorts don't duel.

Fourth picture is Ngolo Kante duels showing he loses half his duels

1st and 2nd picture shows Wilfred Ndidi and Fernandinho placing high on Dribbled Past per game stats in previous seasons.

3rd picture shows Allan being dribbled past the most per game last season.

You will never see a püssy escort like Jorginho on such lists, because he is always strolling 5 yards behind or outside camera frame.

Usually when you see a player on Dribbled past list, check tackles made, he will also be there. All that means is his style of play is to engage opponents frequently.

The transvestite should keep exposing his poor grasp of stats

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:34pm On May 26, 2021
Leyqute:


I see you’ve added Portugal to the list. Care to expand it? You’ve got like 24 different choices o grin
I earlier rated Portugal but has to choose England and France ahead of them because of subs. If Na by first 11, Portugal get am, possibly more than England, but that’s not enough.

If Bruno or Ronaldo gets injured, it’s actually over for them, same can’t be said for France and England wey their subs fit make standard 11. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:34pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

Escorts don’t mark, they don’t face opponents, they don’t attempt to challenge them.

They escort them to do what they want to do and how they want to do it. How can a player dribble an escort that didn’t challenge him?

Una no dey watch ball?
Please help us that don't watch ball with video evidence of this so called escorts doing so cheesy cheesy.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Odunharry(m): 1:34pm On May 26, 2021
nihilistjnr:


So the guy na your fellow scumrade sef.

Well, if he wants to slander penandez I'm all for it cheesy cheesy cheesy
Lol. We dn dash am to Chelsea fc since..
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:35pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

Escorts don’t mark, they don’t face opponents, they don’t attempt to challenge them.

They escort them to do what they want to do and how they want to do it. How can a player dribble an escort that didn’t challenge him?

Una no dey watch ball?

Even in real life escorts won't tackle you. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:38pm On May 26, 2021
Ibime:


No escorts don't engage because they don't get there.

Every player loses approximately half their duels.

The more you duel, the more you lose. Also the more you win. Escorts don't duel.

Fourth picture is Ngolo Kante duels showing he loses half his duels

1st and 2nd picture shows Wilfred Ndidi and Fernandinho placing high on Dribbled Past per game stats in previous seasons.

3rd picture shows Allan being dribbled past the most per game last season.

You will never a püssy escort like Jorginho on such lists, because he is always strolling 5 yards behind or outside camera frame.

The transvestite should keep exposing his poor grasp of stats
Get where? Does dribbling a player involves when the player is behind you?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:42pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

Please help us that don't watch ball with video evidence of this so called escorts doing so cheesy cheesy.
Jorg, Busquet and Rodri are examples of escort Dm. They don’t engage opponents, they are only useful when they have the ball because of their passing abilities, not when opponents are penetrating with the ball.

The likes of Hberg, Kante, Fred, Fernandiho, Ndidi and Rice will be dribbled because they engage players a lot and it’s normal for them not to succeed anytime they engage players which is why they get dribbled sometimes.


This shouldn’t be hard to understand, unless you are trolling.

If e sure Pep, he should bench Fernandiho and buy another Rodri to use. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:42pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

Get where? Does dribbling a player involves when the player is behind you?

Your answer below

donstan18:

Escorts don’t mark, they don’t face opponents, they don’t attempt to challenge them.

They escort them to do what they want to do and how they want to do it. How can a player dribble an escort that didn’t challenge him?

Una no dey watch ball?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:43pm On May 26, 2021
airmark:


Even in real life escorts won't tackle you. grin
grin cheesy grin

I think the guy is trolling, because what he’s arguing shouldn’t be hard to understand.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 1:43pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

I earlier rated Portugal but has to choose England and France ahead of them because of subs. If Na by first 11, Portugal get am, possibly more than England, but that’s not enough.

If Bruno or Ronaldo gets injured, it’s actually over for them, same can’t be said for France and England wey their subs fit make standard 11. grin

How probable is it that someone else wins it apart from those 3?

Me, I’m tipping Germany. Because of Timo Mighty grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:45pm On May 26, 2021
Leyqute:


How probable is it that someone else wins it apart from those 3?

Me, I’m tipping Germany. Because of Timo Mighty grin
grin grin cheesy grin

I no get your time

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:45pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

Jorg, Busquet and Rodri are examples of escort Dm. They don’t engage opponents, they are only useful when they have the ball because of their passing abilities, not when opponents are penetrating with the ball.

The likes of Hberg, Kante, Fred, Fernandiho, Ndidi and Rice will be dribbled because they engage players a lot and it’s normal for them not to succeed anytime they engage players which is why they get dribbled sometimes.


This shouldn’t be hard to understand, unless you are trolling.

If e sure Pep, he should bench Fernandiho and buy another Rodri to use. grin
I said provide enough video evidence let's all see how Rodri,Jorg and all the other escorts where running away from attacker bro.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:47pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

I said provide enough video evidence let's all see how Rodri,Jorg and all the other escorts where running away from attacker bro.
Provide videos proving that Hbjerg is all ginger with no efficiency.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:48pm On May 26, 2021
Ibime:


Your answer below

Ibime I am checking the stats per 90mins from Squwaka and it seems like even Jorginho has better defensive stats and at an ever better rate of success than Højbjerg. What do you have to say? Could it be that some players are more Sensible than others and don't dive in foolishly?

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