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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:49pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

Provide videos proving that Hbjerg is all ginger with no efficiency.
Swz123 already provided the stats for that. Now provide your own evidence of those escorts like you said running away from attackers

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:53pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

Ibime I am checking the stats and it seems like even Jorginho has better defensive stats and at an ever better rate of success than Højbjerg. What do you have to say? Could it be that some players are more Sensible than others and don't dive in foolishly?
Let’s check something...

Let’s say out of all the necessary defensive duties in the midfield, Kante contested defensively 100 times, and won 40% of it.

Then Jorg contested 10 times and won 70% of it.

Who will be awarded a better success rate and who attempted more?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:53pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

Ibime I am checking the stats per 90mins from Squwaka and it seems like even Jorginho has better defensive stats and at an ever better rate of success than Højbjerg. What do you have to say? Could it be that some players are more Sensible than others and don't dive in foolishly?

I counted 8 black stars for Hojberg. How many did you count for Jorginho? Do you need an optician? Count and tell me.

Bear in mind anything you see Jorginho doing is in community defence with 3 defenders behind him who must have harrried the opponent into congested area for Jorginho to do clean work. Hojberg work is done in space, on his own strength.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 1:54pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

Swz123 already provided the stats for that. Now provide your own evidence of those escorts like you said running away from attackers
Send your videos ASAP.

Post it.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:55pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

Please help us that don't watch ball with video evidence of this so called escorts doing so cheesy cheesy.

Sometimes even cameraman leaves them behind.

That's why I say the work of an escort is marked by their absence, not by their presence.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:57pm On May 26, 2021
Ibime:


I counted 8 black stars for Hojberg. How many did you count for Jorginho? Do you need an optician? Count and tell me.

Bear in mind anything you see Jorginho doing is in community defence with 3 defenders behind him who must have harrried the opponent into congested area for Jorginho to do clean work. Hojberg work is done in space, on his own strength.
He only had better stats for aerial duals while Jorginho wins on ground duels. The matter on ground now is your opinion and the stats are not aligning one bit. Should we trust your opinion over the stats which are showing us Jorginho is more efficient than Højbjerg?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 1:58pm On May 26, 2021
Ibime:


Sometimes even cameraman leaves them behind.

That's why I say the work of an escort is marked by their absence, not by their presence.
Cameraman leaves the behind? The attacker must be flash or superman then cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 2:00pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

Let’s check something...

Let’s say out of all the necessary defensive duties in the midfield, Kante contested defensively 100 times, and won 40% of it.

Then Jorg contested 10 times and won 70% of it.

Who will be awarded a better success rate and who attempted more?
Since when did 40% success rate becomes higher and better than 70% success rate?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 2:01pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

Send your videos ASAP.

Post it.

I asked you first. Can you post those videos of those so called escorts running away and hiding from attackers?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:02pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

He only had better stats for aerial duals only only while Jorginho wins on ground duels. The matter on ground now is your opinion and the stats are not aligning one bit. Should we trust your opinion over the stats which are showing us Jorginho is more efficient than Højbjerg?

Average passes per Game, Hojberg top 10. No sign of Jorginho

Average tackles per game, Hojberg top 20. No sign of Jorginho.

Jorginho no fit defend better, he no dey even pass more than Hojberg which is supposed to be his specialty as an escort.

Where are you getting your stats from?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 2:03pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

Since when did 40% success rate becomes higher and better than 70% success rate?
Why you dey dodge the questions nh grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 2:05pm On May 26, 2021
Ibime:


Average passes per Game, Hojberg top 10. No sign of Jorginho

Average tackles per game, Hojberg top 20. No sign of Jorginho.

Jorginho no fit defend better, he no dey even pass more than Hojberg which is supposed to be his specialty as an escort.

Where are you getting your stats from?




We are not talking about passes here . All my stats are from Squwaka player comparison matrix per 90mins for each player.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 2:06pm On May 26, 2021
Leyqute:


How probable is it that someone else wins it apart from those 3?

Me, I’m tipping Germany. Because of Timo Mighty grin
grin grin grin

Germany squad ain't so bad o.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 2:06pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

Why you dey dodge the questions nh grin
You haven't answered my question yet. You are trying to tell us low success rate is better than high success rate bro cheesy cheesy.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 2:10pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

I asked you first. Can you post those videos of those so called escorts running away and hiding from attackers?

Watch Son’s goal and tell me if Kante or Hbjerg will be lazy and foolish enough to escort Son in that manner. grin



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUagN1UuhwM&feature=emb_err_woyt

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:10pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

We are not talking about passes here . All my stats are from Squwaka player comparison matrix per 90mins for each player.

Passes, Hojberg is bossing him. Tackles, Hojberg is bossing him. What is Jorginhos use case if he cannot outpass a so called ginger player.

Hojberg has been in EPL 5 years with 842 duels won. Jorginho has been 3 years with 368 duels won.

Hojberg has been in EPL 5 years with 1,218 recoveries, Jorginho has been in EPL 3 years with 689 recoveries.

Should we help you with Maths?

Passing, Assists, tackling, running, Hojberg is ahead on everything.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 2:15pm On May 26, 2021
Ibime:


Passes, Hojberg is bossing him. Tackles, Hojberg is bossing him. What is Jorginhos use case if he cannot outpass a so called ginger player.

Hojberg has been in EPL 5 years with 842 duels won. Jorginho has been 3 years with 368 duels won.

Hojberg has been in EPL 5 years with 1,218 recoveries, Jorginho has been in EPL 3 years with 689 recoveries.

Should we help you with Maths?

Passing, Assists, tackling, running, Hojberg is ahead on everything.

* Passes....one played 38games this season one played 28games in league. Did it ever occurred to you to check their appearance?

Can you show us the successful rate for both players for that duel and recoveries stats?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 2:16pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:


Watch Son’s goal and tell me if Kante or Hbjerg will be lazy and foolish enough to escort Son in that manner. grin



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUagN1UuhwM&feature=emb_err_woyt
Did you see Kante for that Harry kane goal?


Common sense Son is faster than Jorginho. The escort as you claimed didn't hide away or stop running after him which goes against your claim that escorts don't engage and hide away from attackers.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 2:20pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

....
https://twitter.com/mundialmag/status/1331161383648555014?s=21

Jorginho Na escort, although good in some areas.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 2:24pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

https://twitter.com/mundialmag/status/1331161383648555014?s=21

Jorginho Na escort, although good in some areas.
Is that the definition of escort? A fast player outrunning a much slower player ?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 2:29pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

Is that the definition of escort? A fast player outrunning a much slower player ?
It’s something to be out-paced and it’s another thing to be terrible defensively. Jorg was defensively terrible.

At this point, they weren’t running, Son stopped, Jorg as an escort was waiting for him to decide what to do with the ball instead of engaging him with a tackle or body jam.

Fernandiho no get that pace, but them no burn Son well to stop just to think of what to do with the ball.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 2:32pm On May 26, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
grin grin grin

Germany squad ain't so bad o.

Exactly. Timo to score in the final, win golden boot.

Omo ologo cool

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 2:33pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

It’s something to be out-paced and it’s another thing to be terrible defensively. Jorg was defensively terrible.

At this point, they weren’t running, Son stopped, Jorg as an escort was waiting for him to decide what to do with the ball instead of engaging him with a tackle or body jam.

Fernandiho no get that pace, but them no burn Son well to stop just to think of what to do with the ball.
From that screenshot where did Son stop?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:34pm On May 26, 2021
Hojberg finished 3rd in Spurs POTY awards behind Kane and Some

Fans award, he also finished 3rd.

I wonder when Chelsea fans will consider Jorginho rather than 80% of them wanting to chase him away with sticks and stones.

He is so useless that Kovacic and Mount of all people have been winning award and he wasn't considered.

Imagine Jorginho anchoring a back 4 defence. Na die we dey. TT is just protecting him with back 3 for now. He is a liability in the long term.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 2:36pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

From that screenshot where did Son stop?
grin grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 2:41pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

grin grin
Watch the video again Son didn't stop. He kept on pushing the ball before accelerateting away from Jorginho. If David Luiz was sensible and not rushing to meet Son like a mad man that goal wouldn't have happen. David Luiz rushed out like Højbjerg would have done with out thinking properly grin.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 2:46pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

Watch the video again Son didn't stop. He kept on pushing the ball before accelerateting away from Jorginho. If David Luiz was sensible and not rushing to meet Son like a mad man that goal wouldn't have happen. David Luiz rushed out like Højbjerg would have done with out thinking properly grin.
Son stopped, and then moved again.

Watch from 0:08 to 0:12... grin
https://twitter.com/mundialmag/status/1331161383648555014?s=21

David came out to engage/challenge him and got dribbled, reason i earlier told you that escorts don’t get dribbled because they don’t engage.

If Jorg had wanted to engage Son and not escort him. He would have made use of these lines to wait for him.

Jorg Na escort. He had all the time in the world to engage and challenge Son.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 2:56pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

Son stopped, and then moved again.

Watch from 0:08 to 0:12... grin
https://twitter.com/mundialmag/status/1331161383648555014?s=21

David came out to engage/challenge him and got dribbled, reason i earlier told you that escorts don’t get dribbled because they don’t engage.

If Jorg had wanted to engage Son and not escort him. He would have made use of these lines to wait for him.

Jorg Na escort. He had all the time in the world to engage and challenge Son.
Stop typing spoil. You can even hear the commentator saying Son is quicker than Jorginho. It's was all about son pace nothing like escort there David Luiz did absolutely nothing sensible there. He completely fooled himself. L

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donstan18: 2:59pm On May 26, 2021
Melvyn11:

Stop typing spoil. You can even hear the commentator saying Son is quicker than Jorginho. It's was all about son pace nothing like escort there David Luiz did absolutely nothing sensible there. He completely fooled himself. L
He has shifted from Jorg escort service to David Luiz, not Hbjerg again. grin

What a way to accept the L

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 3:04pm On May 26, 2021
donstan18:

[s] has shifted from Jorg escort service to David Luiz, not Hbjerg again. grin

What a way to accept the L [/s]
You have still not explained how a faster player running away from a slower one is called escort?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 3:16pm On May 26, 2021
DeadPresidents:


And there are definitely 5+ Portuguese players who'll start for England. Proves fecking nothing.

I'm not overrating Portugal, I'm just basing my analysis on the fact that one of both teams is the Arsenal of international football and we know which one it is grin
What even makes Portugal strong is not the name but the fact they have a very cohesive unit with experience playing together for sometime...Their team is more like that of Greece in 2004 albeit with a crop of more talented individuals players who can function in multi dimensional approaches...

I even rate Belgium ahead of England but the both of them have average coaches.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by swiz123(m): 3:55pm On May 26, 2021
Trevor012:

The only players that will start for England in that portugal squad are Dias and Ronaldo( Due to reputation not even merit).


Guy, Fernandes big pass every English player currently.. Ronaldo still has better stats than all English players.
No English defender will even want to compare himself with Diaz...

I don't even know what England has achieved of recent that you guys are hyping sef. A team that was struggling against Sweden at the World cup. Eliminated by Croatia and outclassed by Belgium.

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