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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by olabode89(m): 5:07pm On May 30, 2021
Joezinho:


Imagine this mumu that is still eating "mumu thank you" acting like he's in his early 40s..

Social media makes rabbits think they are cheetahs cox they run faster too

Chai... grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:09pm On May 30, 2021
Van Gaal and Mourinho were top coaches before not anymore...

There’s a reason Ancelotti is at Everton and Mourinho joined Roma. Where is Van Gaal sef? Why didn't any other top club go after him?

Football has evolved...Young coaches who prioritize high pressing, intricate passing and movement are now dominating the stage so those old men with their outdated approach and tactics can't cope...

There’s a reason most young coaches hold Bielsa in high esteem, he might be aging but he is one of the proponent of the style of football that's in demand at the moment...

So, the argument that we hired 2 top coaches before should be binned. Van Gaal and Mourinho used to be top coaches and are legends in their own right but we got them when others had milked every juice off them...

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Izanghi(m): 5:17pm On May 30, 2021
Lana1:

As usual, you will miss the point and cry about how much they've spent as if that was the point of my post.
I stopped reading that rubbish after you said we 've outspent all other clubs.

5 years is 2017 - 2021. Below is transfers for all clubs you mentioned between 16/17 - 20/21. That's 5 seasons.

All figures in pounds....

United - 644.6m

Madrid - 527.48m
Barcelona - 931.2m
Chelsea - 796.8m
Liverpool - 474.6m
Bayern - 371.5m
City - 939.5m
Guy, according to transfermarkt, we outspent chelsea in those years

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 5:21pm On May 30, 2021
Izanghi:

Guy, according to transfermarkt, we outspent chelsea in those years
My figures are from transfermarkt as well. Only difference is i'm not hiding behind netspend to make a point.

Between 16/17 and 20/21, that is the amount all those clubs spent on incoming transfers
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:21pm On May 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
Van Gaal and Mourinho were top coaches before not anymore...

There’s a reason Ancelotti is at Everton and Mourinho joined Roma. Where is Van Gaal sef? Why didn't any other top club go after him?

Football has evolved...Young coaches who prioritize high pressing, intricate passing and movement are now dominating the stage so those old men with their outdated approach and tactics can't cope...

There’s a reason most young coaches hold Bielsa in high esteem, he might be aging but he is one of the proponent of the style of football that's in demand at the moment...

So, the argument that we hired 2 top coaches before should be binned. Van Gaal and Mourinho used to be top coaches and are legends in their own right but we got them when others had milked every juice off them...

Don’t tow this line of reasoning.

Someone who just took Netherland to the semis of the World Cup, and had coached a number of top teams (and won titles with them) will still be regarded as a top coach as at that time. Maybe 5 years down the line when he stops winning trophies he’ won’t be regarded as a top coach anymore.

5-7 years down the line opinions might’ve changed tho.

If Klopp doesn’t win anything of note for the next 4 years he won’t be regarded as a top coach anymore.

At the time they were both appointed, LvG and Mourinho were regarded as top coaches who had been successful at the biggest scenes. Both were highly sought after at the time they were approached by Man Utd.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 5:22pm On May 30, 2021
Leyqute:


Ferguson or the Glazers?

Don’t you think it’s strange how a coach that’s known for breaking British transfer records suddenly thinks buying Hasard for 34m is too much?
It was Ferguson especially regarding the agent fee.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:23pm On May 30, 2021
Bombblacks:

It was Ferguson especially regarding the agent fee.

Okay
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 5:24pm On May 30, 2021
Our permutation and combination brothers are here again grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 5:24pm On May 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
Hazard even posted that he is joining the European champions. It had nothing to do with money but the preference of Hazard...Chelsea winning the UCL ultimately pushed them ahead of us.
Baba it was about the money. United pulled out of the deal due to the fee Lille where demanding and agent fee. Chelsea had no problem with that and got Hazard.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingTom(m): 5:25pm On May 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
Hazard even posted that he is joining the European champions. It had nothing to do with money but the preference of Hazard...Chelsea winning the UCL ultimately pushed them ahead of us.
I think he wanted the No 10 Jersey too if memory serves me right, but ultimately I believe it was just a gag to not come to united, knowing fully well that 'Prince' Rooney could not be displaced as far as that shirt number was concerned grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 5:26pm On May 30, 2021
KingTom:
Our permutation and combination brothers are here again grin grin

grin grin grin

What else do we need to do to make this prophecy come to pass?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 5:28pm On May 30, 2021
CapitalCee:
You see Telles, Van de beek, James, and Martial. a competent manager will make these guys monsters. No sensible agent will allow his player to play under ole

No manager can make Martial monster. None

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 5:29pm On May 30, 2021
This is Ferguson talking about the Hazard deal

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Izanghi(m): 5:30pm On May 30, 2021
Lana1:
My figures are from transfermarkt as well. Only difference is i'm not hiding behind netspend to make a point.

Between 16/17 and 20/21, that is the amount all those clubs spent on incoming transfers
Guy, you see our opinions are individually correct, we don't need to attack others who have contrary views to us, i could have gone all attacking too when you called my post "rubbish" cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:34pm On May 30, 2021
Leyqute:


Don’t tow this line of reasoning.

Someone who just took Netherland to the semis of the World Cup, and had coached a number of top teams (and won titles with them) will still be regarded as a top coach as at that time. Maybe 5 years down the line when he stops winning trophies he’ won’t be regarded as a top coach anymore.

5-7 years down the line opinions might’ve changed tho.

If Klopp doesn’t win anything of note for the next 4 years he won’t be regarded as a top coach anymore.

At the time they were both appointed, LvG and Mourinho were regarded as top coaches who had been successful at the biggest scenes. Both were highly sought after at the time they were approached by Man Utd.
How many top coaches do you see coaching countries?

Most coaches only consider national team jobs towards the tale end of their careers, the ones who are young who opt for national team jobs are simply not highly rated in most cases...

Van Gaal is revered for winning the UCL with those Ajax kids donkey years ago, his last big job was with Bayern before he went on top coach the Netherlands...His glory days were long gone and it's evident in his style of play abi na philosophy...

Mourinho, was at the peak of his powers when left Porto for Chelsea and through his Inter and Madrid reign. His approach is outdated, he can still win a couple of trophies but it doesn't change the fact that he is past it...Watching him coach us and recently Spurs tells me he can't change to suite the modern game.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karleb(m): 5:36pm On May 30, 2021
Leyqute:


grin grin grin

What else do we need to do to make this prophecy come to pass?

Two teaspoonful of OGS.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 5:39pm On May 30, 2021
During Mourinho's tenure, you never knew Glazers are the problem; you dragged the life out of Jose and even labeled his trophies IFA cup, Yorupa league, etc.

Suddenly, you remembered that the issue is from Glazers just to protect your MCM grin grin

When Nitrogen mentioned the idea of hiring and sacking, you dropped 1500 words to defend OLE and DNA approach

Ogbeni, summit another excuse

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:40pm On May 30, 2021
Bombblacks:
This is Ferguson talking about the Hazard deal
Seeing that Hazard rejected us for Chelsea, Fergie had to take a swipe at him too...Or do you expect Fergie to say Hazard choose Chelsea over us at a time they was already growing discomfort about the Glazers among the fans?

Or you expect him to say we signed Kagawa because he was cheaper? He had to hit out on the fee just because he knows the fans will always believe his take.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:42pm On May 30, 2021
Expert17:


grin

Always looking for an excuse to protect that fraud called OLE.

It’s tiring.

Ole has been steadying the ship for almost 3 years. You would think Man Utd has become the Titanic.

Solskjaer has lost more semifinals at United than it took Tuchel months to win the Champions League.

If that doesn’t make them think, nothing else would.

patrickmuf:
How many top coaches do you see coaching countries?

Most coaches only consider national team jobs towards the tale end of their careers, the ones who are young who opt for national team jobs are simply not highly rated in most cases...

Van Gaal is revered for winning the UCL with those Ajax kids donkey years ago, his last big job was with Bayern before he went on top coach the Netherlands...His glory days were long gone and it's evident in his style of play abi na philosophy...

Mourinho, was at the peak of his powers when left Porto for Chelsea and through his Inter and Madrid reign. His approach is outdated, he can still win a couple of trophies but it doesn't change the fact that he is past it...Watching him coach us and recently Spurs tells me he can't change to suite the modern game.

His approach won United 3 trophies. The best spell the club has had since Fergie retired.

His approach is what won Simeone a La Liga title, won Conte a Serie A title, won Galtier a Ligue 1 title.

Emery also tapped into that same approach to destroy Ole’s ultra modern, progressive, expansive attacking football last week.

There’s no one way to win a football game. There are many ways to skin a cat. Insinuating Jose’s football approach is obsolete and then cheering Conte or Simeone is hypocritical.

They all have the same philosophy.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:45pm On May 30, 2021
Don't say anything, just waka pass

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TrebleChamp(m): 5:51pm On May 30, 2021
LostMyZeal:


Lol...I know the unrepentant one

Redemption is a gradual process tho.

In no time, there shall be many converts grin


grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:03pm On May 30, 2021
Expert17:
[s]During Mourinho's tenure, you never knew Glazers are the problem; you dragged the life out of Jose and even labeled his trophies IFA cup, Yorupa league, etc.

Suddenly, you remembered that the issue is from Glazers just to protect your MCM grin grin

When Nitrogen mentioned the idea of hiring and sacking, you dropped 1500 words to defend OLE and DNA approach

Ogbeni, summit another excuse[/s]

I’m getting tired of this mosquito.

If you cannot get in the ring and contribute properly it’s better for you to just shut your mouth and watch from the sidelines like most sensible people do.

You cannot hold one original thought in your head. You cannot start any discourse on your all. All you do is jump on other discussions and contribute nothing meaningful.

Seriously, don’t fvcking bring your idiosyncratic childishness into this matter if you know you won’t be contributing anything tangible.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 6:04pm On May 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
Seen that Hazard rejected us for Chelsea, Fergie had to take a swipe at him too...Or do you expect Fergie to say Hazard choose Chelsea over us at a time they was already growing discomfort about the Glazers among the fans?

Or you expect him to say we signed Kagawa because he was cheaper? He had to hit out on the fee just because he knows the fans will always believe his take.
Baba stop drawing out scenarios from your head. Clubs pull out of deals all the time. Nothing different from this scenario. United pulled out of the Hazard deal because of the fees requested by both Lille and hazard agent like Ferguson already said. Case close

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:04pm On May 30, 2021
Leyqute:


[s]I’m getting tired of this mosquito.

If you cannot get in the ring and contribute properly it’s better for you to just shut your mouth and watch from the sidelines like most sensible people do.

You cannot hold one original thought in your head. You cannot start any discourse on your all. All you do is jump on other discussions and contribute nothing meaningful.

Seriously, don’t fvcking bring your idiosyncratic childishness into this matter if you know you won’t be contributing anything tangible[/s].

.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:04pm On May 30, 2021
Get into the ring.....Pele

Anthony Joshua grin grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 6:06pm On May 30, 2021
cheesy cheesy grin grin grin cheesy grin grin

Online boxing arena. Awon online champion. grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 6:06pm On May 30, 2021
Leyqute:


I’m getting tired of this mosquito.

If you cannot get in the ring and contribute properly it’s better for you to just shut your mouth and watch from the sidelines like most sensible people do.

You cannot hold one original thought in your head. You cannot start any discourse on your all. All you do is jump on other discussions and contribute nothing meaningful.

Seriously, don’t fvcking bring your idiosyncratic childishness into this matter if you know you won’t be contributing anything tangible.
Omo na person papa you call mosquito so wink cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Expert17: 6:07pm On May 30, 2021
nitrogen:
cheesy cheesy grin grin grin cheesy grin grin

Online boxing arena. Awon online champion. grin

grin grin

The thing shock me

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Trevor012(m): 6:07pm On May 30, 2021
Leyqute:


I’m getting tired of this mosquito.

If you cannot get in the ring and contribute properly it’s better for you to just shut your mouth and watch from the sidelines like most sensible people do.

You cannot hold one original thought in your head. You cannot start any discourse on your all. All you do is jump on other discussions and contribute nothing meaningful.

Seriously, don’t fvcking bring your idiosyncratic childishness into this matter if you know you won’t be contributing anything tangible.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 6:09pm On May 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
How many top coaches do you see coaching countries?

Most coaches only consider national team jobs towards the tale end of their careers, the ones who are young who opt for national team jobs are simply not highly rated in most cases...

Van Gaal is revered for winning the UCL with those Ajax kids donkey years ago, his last big job was with Bayern before he went on top coach the Netherlands...His glory days were long gone and it's evident in his style of play abi na philosophy...

Mourinho, was at the peak of his powers when left Porto for Chelsea and through his Inter and Madrid reign. His approach is outdated, he can still win a couple of trophies but it doesn't change the fact that he is past it...Watching him coach us and recently Spurs tells me he can't change to suite the modern game.
Coaching a country doesn't necessarily mean you are finished at the highest level.

Julen lopetegui,
Luis Enrique (family reasons)
Hansi flick etc
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 6:10pm On May 30, 2021
patrickmuf:
How many top coaches do you see coaching countries?

Most coaches only consider national team jobs towards the tale end of their careers, the ones who are young who opt for national team jobs are simply not highly rated in most cases...

Van Gaal is revered for winning the UCL with those Ajax kids donkey years ago, his last big job was with Bayern before he went on top coach the Netherlands...His glory days were long gone and it's evident in his style of play abi na philosophy...

Mourinho, was at the peak of his powers when left Porto for Chelsea and through his Inter and Madrid reign. His approach is outdated, he can still win a couple of trophies but it doesn't change the fact that he is past it...Watching him coach us and recently Spurs tells me he can't change to suite the modern game.

Mourinho was the second most decorated manager when we signed him. You can’t say he wasn’t a top coach at that time.

LvG was not as highly sought after as Mourinho but he was no Moyes. You can’t just discredit them.

The problem here is that you are evaluating the two managers based on where they are in 2021 and not where they were in 2014 (when we hired LvG) and 2016 (when Mourinho came in). And that’s being unfair and hypocritical.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by KingAlabi: 6:10pm On May 30, 2021
Leyqute:


I’m getting tired of this mosquito.

If you cannot get in the ring and contribute properly it’s better for you to just shut your mouth and watch from the sidelines like most sensible people do.

You cannot hold one original thought in your head. You cannot start any discourse on your all. All you do is jump on other discussions and contribute nothing meaningful.

Seriously, don’t fvcking bring your idiosyncratic childishness into this matter if you know you won’t be contributing anything tangible.
It is an expert thing grin grin
You harsh Sha. grin

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