Jesus said it will speak but from all the evidences God's Holy Spirit never spoke on it's own except through humans!

Bishopkingsley:

So what your saying is that the holy spirit can not speak on it own because it is a force

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus said it will speak but from all the evidences God's Holy Spirit never spoke on it's own except through humans!

Lol... Jesus said it will speak now evidence say it never spoke except through human

I just want to be clear

I just want to hear from you did Jesus mean that it can speak on it own

Bishopkingsley:

Lol Jesus said it will speak now evidence say it never spoke except through human
I just want to hear from you did Jesus mean that it can speak on it own

Jesus often speak in parables hence you need wisdom to grasp his message otherwise you'll take it literally and misconception will set in!

God's Holy Spirit never spoke a word as if a person on it's own from Genesis to Revelation, rather men spoke as they're permitted by the spirit!

Bishopkingsley:


You are moving around the bush

If we go to Hebrew are you not the one who will translate what examples elohim means

Is it going to translate by itself

Why are you trying to avoid a common sense issue

If you write elohim down tell me who is going to translate it

Lol, you call going back to the root language in which the scriptures was written is “moving around the bush”?

No make me laugh abeg.

Echad (Unified One) vs Yachad (Solitary One)

Hint: One flesh is Echad…

John 17 v 22 is Echad…

It’s gonna be interesting tonight.

MaxInDHouse:

Jesus often speak in parables hence you need wisdom to grasp his message otherwise you'll take it literally and misconception will set in!

God's Holy Spirit never spoke a word as if a person on it's own from Genesis to Revelation, rather men spoke as they're permitted by the spirit!

A force can never speak ND you say holy spirit is a force even though that Jesus commanded he will send some one just like himself.. To teach us and guide us .. Another comforter now you open your
LYING mouth to say that comforter is a force that another person is a force do you see why people say you belong to cult any way continue to lie

Now if we find out from the Bible that holy spirit speaks

By his own

What are you going to say next

OkCornel:


Lol, you call going back to the root language in which the scriptures was written is “moving around the bush”?

No make me laugh abeg.

Echad (Unified One) vs Yachad (Solitary One)

Hint: One flesh is Echad…

John 17 v 22 is Echad…

It’s gonna be interesting tonight.

Echad (Unified One) vs Yachad (Solitary One)
Mean that any Hebrew teacher can translate it to fit what they want

And you and that teacher will start to argue which one is correct that is the point am trying to let you understand but you want to be running around the bush

If you had told me that your own interpretation is the ultimate then at least I can respect you

If you tell me that your interpretation of John 17 v 22 is Echad

Is better than the Bible then at least I will respect u

But failing to even ordinary understand that any words you put here means that you translate it from Hebrew is u fail to understand it then you don't have a stand

You are just confused

Bishopkingsley:


Echad (Unified One) vs Yachad (Solitary One)
Mean that any Hebrew teacher can translate it to fit what they want

And you and that teacher will start to argue which one is correct that is the point am trying to let you understand but you want to be running around the bush

If you had told me that your own interpretation is the ultimate then at least I can respect you

If you tell me that your interpretation of John 17 v 22 is Echad

Is better than the Bible then at least I will respect u

But failing to even ordinary understand that any words you put here means that you translate it from Hebrew is u fail to understand it then you don't have a stand

You are just confused

Lol, I guess the Hebrew authors of the scriptures were confused too.

Research on what “one” means in Hebrew and stop being emotional in your responses

OkCornel:


Lol, I guess the Hebrew authors of the scriptures were confused too.

Research on what “one” means in Hebrew and stop being emotional in your responses

Since you don't even understand the point no need for you to bring your translation

You open your mouth to say that one in Bible context that some place they got it wrong that you will translate it directly from Hebrew

So that I can get the message well so I thought you were the ultimate translator

One person must be correct you or the people who did the Bible

Now in your small mind u actually want me to believe your own more that the Bible own

Or are you now saying that your own and the Bible own is the same

Bishopkingsley:


Since you don't even understand the point no need for you to bring your translation

You open your mouth to say that one in Bible context that some place they got it wrong that you will translate it directly from Hebrew

So that I can get the message well so I thought you were the ultimate translator

One person must be correct you or the people who did the Bible

Now in your small mind u actually want me to believe your own more that the Bible own

Or are you now saying that your own and the Bible own is the same

Don’t believe anything I say, believe whatever you want. No matter how hard you believe in a lie, it never makes it the truth.

I’m only putting all these out there for the sake of anyone else who comes across the thread.

OkCornel:


Don’t believe anything I say, believe whatever you want. No matter how hard you believe in a lie, it never makes it the truth.

I’m only putting all these out there for the sake of anyone else who comes across the thread.

No one who has sense can read your own posts and accept your words

Because your beating around the bush

You are afraid to accept that your own translation is better than the Bible own

You are afraid to say that you know Hebrew more than the people who translate the Bible

You are afraid to say that God is only with you and that God is not with those people who translate the Bible

Every one knows that all your aim is to make sure that you prove to people that God is three God

That is just what you want to achieve

But thank God that they see you are a fake Hebrew translator

Bishopkingsley:


No one who has sense can read your own posts and accept your words

Because your beating around the bush

You are afraid to accept that your own translation is better than the Bible own

You are afraid to say that you know Hebrew more than the people who translate the Bible

You are afraid to say that God is only with you and that God is not with those people who translate the Bible

Every one knows that all your aim is to make sure that you prove to people that God is three God

That is just what you want to achieve

But thank God that they see you are a fake Hebrew translator

Speak for yourself bros. Unless you’re implying to everyone on this thread you don’t have enough sense to figure out what I’ve been saying all the while.

And by the way, the early church rejected modalism which you so wholeheartedly believe and labelled it a heresy. You can read all of that and still choose to live in denial, that’s between you and your conscience.

The truth doesn’t need too much words to prove itself.




For anyone that cares, go and research on;

1. The Hebrew interpretation of the Oneness of God - Echad (Elohim) versus Yachad (Eloi)

2. Early church heresies such as modalism, Sabellianism, and Patripassianism…which early believers and church fathers fought against.

Bishopkingsley:


No one who has sense can read your own posts and accept your words

Because your beating around the bush

You are afraid to accept that your own translation is better than the Bible own

You are afraid to say that you know Hebrew more than the people who translate the Bible

You are afraid to say that God is only with you and that God is not with those people who translate the Bible

Every one knows that all your aim is to make sure that you prove to people that God is three God

That is just what you want to achieve

But thank God that they see you are a fake Hebrew translator

Lmao, I can see you’re so emotional you can’t even reply properly.

I’ll put the burden of proof on you right now, since you accuse me of being a fake Hebrew translator, go to the Hebrew scripture and bring the correct interpretation of One from the Hebrew language applied to the God head. Put your sources here as well.

We are all waiting patiently.

I’ll finish this off this with words from the Hebrew Scriptures tonight.

This will be fun

I know cognitive dissonance when I see it in action. The person lives in outright denial of evidences provided and becomes emotionally aggressive

OkCornel:


Speak for yourself bros. Unless you’re implying to everyone on this thread you don’t have enough sense to figure out what I’ve been saying all the while.

And by the way, the early church rejected modalism which you so wholeheartedly believe and labelled it a heresy. You can read all of that and still choose to live in denial, that’s between you and your conscience.

The truth doesn’t need too much words to prove itself.




For anyone that cares, go and research on;

1. The Hebrew interpretation of the Oneness of God - Echad (Elohim) versus Yachad (Eloi)

2. Early church heresies such as modalism, Sabellianism, and Patripassianism…which early believers and church fathers fought against.

My beloved brother

I don't care if you believe my own

As long as you already say with this your mouth that

The father is God
Jesus is God
Holy spirit is God

As long as you believe this things

Then me and you don't have any problem

Now the process is what you don't like

Now I know you don't believe that it one into three

Rather you believe it three into one
Now to me this process is not relevant

The process is not a major problem because God never put the process as a foundation

The main foundation you already accepted it willingly lol that is what am happy about

Bishopkingsley:

A force can never speak ND you say holy spirit is a force even though that Jesus commanded he will send some one just like himself.. To teach us and guide us .. Another comforter now you open your LYING mouth to say that comforter is a force that another person is a force do you see why people say you belong to cult any way continue to lie
Now if we find out from the Bible that holy spirit speaks
By his own
What are you going to say next

You've been lying since about your TRINITY dogheads please can you quote or cite a verse where the word "TRINITY" is found written in the Bible?

Well quote a verse where the Holy Spirit spoke to the audience and precisely what was spoken!

I told you step by step wait when I reply then you reply but because you are erratic u could not wait but God is a God of order I am too

MaxInDHouse:


You've been lying since about your TRINITY dogheads please can you quote or cite a verse where the word "TRINITY" is found written in the Bible?

Well quote a verse where the Holy Spirit spoke to the audience and precisely what was spoken!

My lovely brother I have never once told you that Trinity is in Bible what we say is that the definition of trinity is in Bible so let get this clear

(1)
And now I am going to Jerusalem, drawn there irresistibly by the Holy Spirit, not knowing what awaits me, except that the

Holy Spirit has told me in city after city that jail and suffering lie ahead (Acts 20:22,23 .........

(2)
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them” (Acts 13:2


Conclusion.....
Out of the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter is established....
Once have i heard it in heaven twice on earth.... The Scriptures can not be broken those who try to break it break themselves

Since this verse contradicts the Jehovah's Witness belief that Jesus is not God, they mistranslated
John 1:1 in their New World Translation. ... The Jehovah's Witnesses' New World Translation has deliberately mistranslated all verses pertaining to the deity of Christ, including John 1:1, 8:58, 10:33, 14:9, Acts 20:28, Rom.

You're misconstruing the whole thing.
The Holy Spirit never spoke in the hearing of audience as a person!

For instance:
Jesus spoke to people! Matthew 5:2
In that place everyone both believers and unbelievers heard Jesus' voice.

Jehovah spoke to people! John 12:28
Both believers and unbelievers heard God's voice.

Holy Spirit never spoke in the hearing of unbelieving audience where people can say holy spirit is speaking to the Christians, rather this people perceived that God is directing them through His active force. Act 15:28

But if you think Holy Spirit is a person that can speak on his own then quote a verse like the two i cited above!

Bishopkingsley:

My lovely brother I have never once told you that Trinity is in Bible what we say is that the definition of trinity is in Bible so let get this clear
(1)
And now I am going to Jerusalem, drawn there irresistibly by the Holy Spirit, not knowing what awaits me, except that the
Holy Spirit has told me in city after city that jail and suffering lie ahead (Acts 20:22,23 .........
(2)
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them” (Acts 13:2
Conclusion.....
Out of the mouth of two or three witnesses every matter is established....
Once have a heard it in heaven twice on earth.... The Scriptures can not be broken those who try to break it break themselves

MaxInDHouse:
You're misconstruing the whole thing.
The Holy Spirit never spoke in the hearing of audience as a person!

For instance:
Jesus spoke to people! Matthew 5:2
In that place everyone both believers and unbelievers heard Jesus' voice.

Jehovah spoke to people! John 12:28
Both believers and unbelievers heard God's voice.

Holy Spirit never spoke in the hearing of unbelieving audience where people can say holy spirit is speaking to the Christians, rather this people perceived that God is directing them through His active force. Act 15:28

But if you think Holy Spirit is a person that can speak on his own then quote a verse like the two i cited above!

Lol go and drink eye washing drug so that you can read this properly

I will copy it from your Bible also

And now I am going to Jerusalem, drawn there irresistibly by the Holy Spirit, not knowing what awaits me, except that the
Holy Spirit has told me in city after city that jail and suffering lie ahead (Acts 20:22,23 .........
(2)
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them” (Acts 13:2

This shows how dishonest you are Mr Man.

There are many translations that you can't find those verses except in the KJV.

For instance:

Jerusalem Bible
Revised Standard
American version
And many others.

So if you're truly interested in knowing the truth you're free to check other translations of the holy scriptures but if you're contented with your lying TRINITY no wahala!

Bishopkingsley:
Since this verse contradicts the Jehovah's Witness belief that Jesus is not God, they mistranslated
John 1:1 in their New World Translation. ... The Jehovah's Witnesses' New World Translation has deliberately mistranslated all verses pertaining to the deity of Christ, including John 1:1, 8:58, 10:33, 14:9, Acts 20:28, Rom.

Act 13:2
As they were ministering* to Jehovah* and fasting, the holy spirit said: “Set aside for me Barʹna·bas and Saul+ for the work to which I have called them.”+ 3 Then after fasting and praying, they laid their hands on them and sent them off.

Guy use your brain!

What they're saying is perceiving the direction through God's active force.
There is no place in the Bible where holy spirit spoke in the hearing of eye witnesses, the only two persons who spoke are JEHOVAH and Jesus!

Bishopkingsley:

Lol go and drink eye washing drug so that you can read this properly
I will copy it from your Bible also
And now I am going to Jerusalem, drawn there irresistibly by the Holy Spirit, not knowing what awaits me, except that the
Holy Spirit has told me in city after city that jail and suffering lie ahead (Acts 20:22,23 .........
(2)
While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them” (Acts 13:2

MaxInDHouse:
Guy use your brain!

What they're saying is perceiving the direction through God's active force.
There is no place in the Bible where holy spirit spoke in the hearing of eye witnesses, the only two persons who spoke are JEHOVAH and Jesus!

(Acts 20:22,23As they were ministering* to Jehovah* and fasting, the holy spirit said: “Set aside for me Barʹna·bas and Saul+ for the work to which I have called them.”+ 3 Then after fasting and praying, they laid their hands on them and sent them off.

I just want to see how you are going to twist it

Exactly the way devil told eve did God really say that you should not eat from that tree

Bishopkingsley:
Act 13:2
As they were ministering* to Jehovah* and fasting, the holy spirit said: “Set aside for me Barʹna·bas and Saul+ for the work to which I have called them.”+ 3 Then after fasting and praying, they laid their hands on them and sent them off.

It simply means as they were worshiping they perceived that Barnabas and Paul will be more useful as traveling overseers, so they prayed over them and sent them to go forming and helping congregations!

Now you want me to use brain here and not use my brain when God and Jesus speaks oh my goodness

MaxInDHouse:


It simply means as they were worshiping they perceived that Barnabas and Paul will be more useful as traveling overseers, so they prayed over them and sent them to go forming and helping congregations!

perceived is your lying word you use to replace what holy spirit said.

May God have mercy on u

Witnesses view the Old and New Testaments as "God's inspired message to humans." But they don't take every word literally. Instead they believe that parts of the Bible are written in "figurative or symbolic language." ... But they believe that Jesus is not God and that there is no scriptural basis for the trinity doctrine.

We already know how the devil operates

Bishopkingsley:
I just want to see how you are going to twist it
Exactly the way devil told eve did God really say that you should not eat from that tree

If it's twisting then i won't be able to present where what i'm saying is working, all what you're saying now are just mere assumptions you can't PRESENT one single group where your Mr Holy Spirit is working!

But i will teach and show you where God's active force is working and the results thereof! James 2:18-26

Bishopkingsley:

perceived is your lying word you use to replace what holy spirit said.
May God have mercy on u

That's the TRUTH!

They perceived that God is asking them to do something through the direction from His active force.
May God help you to understand because you will just continue arguing over lies and then you won't find a single group of people (church) where what you're saying is working out!

Bishopkingsley:
Witnesses view the Old and New Testaments as "God's inspired message to humans." But they don't take every word literally. Instead they believe that parts of the Bible are written in "figurative or symbolic language." ... But they believe that Jesus is not God and that there is no scriptural basis for the trinity doctrine.
We already know how the devil operates

The highlighted is really laughable my guy!

You know how the devil operates but you can't point, present, show, direct, mention the name of any group where Mr Holy Spirit is working!