Kobojunkie:
Ok. Let's who with Church here referring to Christ's which was built by Him.

Then we have that, as preached by Jesus Christ, Salvation only sets one up with eternal life while being born-again simply guarantees one entry into the Kingdom of God and not Heaven itself.

Jesus Christ sent His followers out to spread the Gospel, not teach people anything past that point. So those who call themselves pastors have nothing to do with Jesus Christ since the work they do was not commanded by Him.

Let me share an insight with you for knowledge sake not argument. Acts 5: 1-11
Read the above portion of what happened between Peter and a church member and tell me if it falls within your myopic context of what Jesus only sent his followers and not to teach beyond.
I am waiting.

Glink2018:


Daughter of Jezebel...you don't have any saying in this matter because you are under the rulership of the devil...

When a purpose is not known abuse is inevitable...Bishop doesn't want those lazy youth to abuse heavenly mandate and ask them to leave ....

Who are you to play God and decide who is under the rulership of the devil?
Please, if you are a Christian, let your speech be seasoned with grace. You can disagree without vomiting vile, unchristian abuse.

Kobojunkie:
it is the command Jesus Christ , God's Law in the Kingdom of God, gave to all of His disciples instructing them to spread the Gospel of the Kingdom of God to all the world.

Instead many false teachers and prophets have built for themselves businesses and kingdoms here on earth using that one command to dupe billions in the name of God. They catch and fleece God's sheep pretending they do so on behalf of God.

So who is a disciple of Jesus Christ?

SexyBabe001:


Bros, calm down... The pastor claimee they were sacked cos their money was low and Oyedepo debunked their claims that they were sacked cos they were not productive and not bearing fruit..

Biko, is English hard to understand? The media was awashed with the lies from the pastors but the man in charge debunked their lies and said they were sacked cos they were not productive. Did I digress from my earlier stand?

productive as in winning more members which they referred as winning souls? Jokers

.............the main issue now is what length will other young pastors go to win souls in order to avoid the sack letter

SexyBabe001:
I know the sacked pastors were lying.

If they felt they were sacked unjustly, let them dust themselves together and try to do something. All these media blackmail won't solve anything. Oyedepo was clear here that money was never the issue for their sack which they claimed they were for.

You can't hide for the truth, the God they claimed they were serving knows the indepth and what we don't know..

To those going overboard and saying insulting words, I know most of you will do far worse than he did..

When it comes to pastors your energy gets activated, to hold your senators and reps responsible, you won't but church.. You begin to quote bible. I am not surprise.. Even the devil goes to church..

You are blessed for this disposition of yours. We have misplaced focus in our dear country, the people we are meant to be calling out on social media like you mentioned senators and reps we don’t, but energy plenty wen it comes to church or other religious outfits, you can’t curse whom God has blessed o ye Internet judges.

AirBay:
.............the main issue now is what length will other young pastors go to win souls to avoid been sacked

correct yourself please.. Win members and not souls

Emmanuelhector:
correct yourself please.. Win members and not souls

Hmmmmnnn. yes, you're right but now seems the Bishop will accept MEMBERS and not necessarily SOULS.. As long as the young pastors win Members, their jobs are save

Damn....

Romanoff:

So who is a disciple of Jesus Christ?

A disciple or follower of Jesus Christ is one who lives in continual submission to and obedience of the teachings of Jesus Christ, God's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of God.

Shokoloko:

Who are you to play God and decide who is under the rulership of the devil?
Please, if you are a Christian, let your speech be seasoned with grace. You can disagree without vomiting vile, unchristian abuse.

Jesus Christ Himself that anyone who claims to believe in Him but does not obey His teachings and commandments is of their father, the devil- John 8 vs 31 - 50.

Kobojunkie:
A disciple or follower of Jesus Christ is one who lives in continual submission to and obedience of the teachings of Jesus Christ, God's Truth and Law in the Kingdom of God.

Okay. So that means anyone who calls themselves a Christian and a disciple of Jesus is tasked with preaching the gospel, as the great commission states, right?

SexyBabe001:


Lol... So you now know more than the owner and commission which employed them? Did you read their Letter when they were employed? Did you read their TOS?

Its easy for any disgruntled sacked member to come up with any story to blackmail his or her employer but the truth will always surface one day..

are u also an insider? so be fair to both sides and don't be so convinced.

Kobojunkie:
You can't fake God on the beatitudes...

What did you mean by can't fake God on the beatitudes.Do you know what beatitudes is all about?

olaeffect:

Let me share an insight with you for knowledge sake not argument. Acts 5: 1-11
Read the above portion of what happened between Peter and a church member and tell me if it falls within your myopic context of what Jesus only sent his followers and not to teach beyond.
I am waiting.

So, is it your understanding that when Peter confronted Ananias, and Saphira for lying against the Spirit of God, Peter, rather than be used to stand in judgement against them by the Spirit, was instead attempting to " teach" them a doctrine or even the Gospel?

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ Himself that anyone who claims to believe in Him but does not obey His teachings and commandments is of their father, the devil- John 8 vs 31 - 50.

What in this girl's comment makes you feel that she does not believe in Jesus and does not obey his teachings. please show me in case I am looking at the wrong thing

Romanoff:
Okay. So that means anyone who calls themselves a Christian and a disciple of Jesus is tasked with preaching the gospel, as the great commission states, right?

Yes, but not as the great commission states but as Jesus Christ commands them to. Even the apostles in the Bible did not go out preaching the gospel until Jesus Christ instructed them to, and this after He had spent time teaching them His Truth.

Some of you are really funny and may attract curses upon yourself. I remember the story of Moses and his elder sister (a prophetess). How God punished her with leprosy just for rebuking Moses even when Moses seemed to have done something wrong.

* Who are you to judge God's servant?
* Were you there when God told him to pioneer the Ministry?
* How do you argue with a man you don't know what God told him last night?
* Where are you people (that look for every occasion to insult Men of God) from?

My counsel to a few of you who have some spiritual sense, is not to fall into this trap.

God bless you.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ never linked Salvation, which He offers , to churchianism. And so since your post suggested a link now exists, it made sense to assume your teaching comes from another one of the many doctrines and traditions of men, which Jesus Christ declared were abominations where God's Truth is concerned.

Well the body of Christ is known as the Church, and before you can become a member of his body you need to be saved; this is known as salvation, and before you can be saved somebody needs to preach or tell you about Christ.
Whatever you mean by "churchianism" is what I will rather you enlighten me more upon.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, but not as the great commission states but as Jesus Christ commands them to. Even the apostles in the Bible did not go out preaching the gospel until Jesus Christ instructed them to, and this after He had spent time teaching them His Truth.

That command is what is called the great commission. Don't you think so?

No one has the right to question him.
How he runs his ministry is his personal affair.
He doesn't need to explain anything.
Organized Christian religion,particularly in Nigeria, actually leaves many unanswered questions.
I often wonder how things would have been if the twelve apostles were in this present time....Will they operate the way the current set of church leaders go about the church business?

olaeffect:

Well the body of Christ is known as the Church, and before you can become a member of his body you need to be saved; this is known as salvation, and before you can be saved somebody needs to preach or tell you about Christ.
Whatever you mean by "churchianism" is what I will rather you enlighten me more upon.

The Church that belongs to Jesus Christ is the Church that was built by Jesus Christ Himself. Your churches are, however, built by the hands of your pastors and Mogs for their kingdoms here on earth.

Anyone who frequents these churches that are built of the hands of men is a Churchian and the practice itself is "Churchianism".

yinkkus:


are u also an insider? so be fair to both sides and don't be so convinced.

You believed the sacked pastors but you didn't believe Oyedepo.. What will Oyedepo gain in lying? What exactly?

SexyBabe001:


Lol... So you now know more than the owner and commission which employed them? Did you read their Letter when they were employed? Did you read their TOS?

Its easy for any disgruntled sacked member to come up with any story to blackmail his or her employer but the truth will always surface one day..

This is the highest level of scam/fraud been carried out by these heartless god of men.....

I don't pity the dismssed pastors who are now crying, they were actively defending Oyedepo,....today he is crying on social media.....
This is to tell you that oyedepo doesn't care about you.... today he is a disgruntle member according to you...but yesterday he was a proud winners member, contributing his best to set up the church..
Even in a normal organization, except in cases of stealing or fighting, you don't sack someone in such a manner.......
This men are even wicked that the unbelievable/non christians....
Shame on you.....

Kobojunkie:
1. What was Jesus Christ's answer to His disciples when they asked Him whose sin was to blame for the man's blindness?

Did Jesus Christ command only the sick to go and sin no more?

Please learn to read the Bible without the filters installed on you by those Mogs.

Jesus Christ is God's New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God and that which you know as sin is disobedience of God's very commandments as given to us by Jesus Christ. All these who will follow Jesus Christ are cslled to submit to and obey the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, a life directlu opposite that lived in sin - disobedience.

Surely , so surely it is not the sick and tired that are called to go and sin no more but everyone who believes in God.

Well for me I think followership is also a big problem we have with most Pentecostal churches of nowadays where we believe that the General overseer or GO is always right in his actions and words. But it ought not to be so.
Even they was a time in the scriptures when Paul the apostle had to rebuke Peter because he was to be blamed. Yes but now Daddy G.O is right no matter the circumstances.

Romanoff:
That command is what is called the great commission. Don't you think so?

The original command is simply a command among many given as part of the New Covenant Law of God. However,men bave built doctrines, and kingdoms, around this one command which they term "the great commission".

triple996:
Christrianity is a joke.
Gods of men

maybe to people like you.

Glink2018:


Daughter of Jezebel...you don't have any saying in this matter because you are under the rulership of the devil...

When a purpose is not known abuse is inevitable...Bishop doesn't want those lazy youth to abuse heavenly mandate and ask them to leave ....

Learn to read properly before jumping in to comment. The person you are insulting is saying exactly the same thing you are saying.

Kobojunkie:
The original command is simply a command among many given as part of the New Covenant Law of God. However,men bave built doctrines, and kingdoms, around this one command which they term "the great commission".

https://www.christianity.com/jesus/early-church-history/great-commission/the-great-commission-is-the-great-command.html

Take a look at this study and let's discuss further after you're done.

I actually learned of the great commission in secondary school CRK and then Sunday School.

Take a look at that study and see where either of us is getting it wrong.

But as a living faith member that year, I knew the pastors are giving mandate to remit so so amount every week. That's why they do all they can to make sure they meet up because they are highly dealt with when they fail. This is not a church gist. This gist was from an insider. Let me stop here.

SexyBabe001:
Bishop Oyedepo addresses issue of Living Faith Rural Churches Low Income:

NONSENSE !
OUR ONLY CRITERIA IS HOW MANY SOULS WON AND NOT HOW MUCH INCOME.

WHEN WE EMPLOYED 7000 PASTORS AT ONCE SOCIAL MEDIA WAS DEAD. WE HAVE MORE EMPLOYEES THAN MOST STATES IN NIGERIA AND WE HAVE NEVER OWED THEM OR TAKEN BANK OVERDRAFT ONCE.

THE PASTORS WERE ASKED TO GO BECAUSE THEY WERE UNFRUITFUL.
MANY OF THE CHURCHES BUILT CAN NEVER PAY FOR THE CHURCH BUILDING IN 30 YEARS.

WE HAVE NO PATIENCE WITH FAILURE HERE.

-Bishop David Oyedepo at CHoP

*We have built more than 1,000 Churches in rural areas where in the next 30 years, they can never generate such fund, with each costing more than 14 Million Naira.
*We are hunting after souls, not income.

People are confused about our Ministry. I learnt some fellows said, “you know, they are not bringing income, that is why they asked them to go.” We asked you to go because you are unfruitful.

Unfruitful! Blatant failure. Doing what there? We have no patience with failure here.
When we employed 7,000 people at a time, Social Media was dead.
We have more employees in this Organisation than most of the States. Church Gist. No one is owed a dime salary and we don’t borrow, we don’t beg. Ask our bank whether we take overdraft.

We are covenant bound, working in the light of God’ Word.
Enjoying an open Heaven.
We have fully delivered the first phase of 1,000 plus buildings to the rural Churches. None of those Churches can generate that fund in the next 30 years. No, we are hunting after souls.

Money: NONSENSE!
We have never lacked it and yet we have never prayed for it, we are just simply obeying God and He is backing up what He is asking us to do. Awesome God.

Now the next set is about to be flagged off, just certifying the landed property issues, nothing else. We have no lack of anything. The world is confused.

Walking in the light of God’s Word. Please obey God to the full and watch out for His manifestations in your life.
Well, you don’t need so much Mathematics to know a thousand buildings; that is not 1000 Naira each, that is not 10 Million (Naira) each, that is not 12 Million (Naira) each, that is not 14 Million (Naira) each.

Some are 35 Million (Naira). At a go!
We have never seen it ourselves. We just watched God doing it.
The only criteria: How many souls have they gotten there? Then, build for them.
How many souls? Not once: “how much money do they have?”
Apart from individuals now investing in promoting the Kingdom of God: building 5 Churches, some building 2, some building 3 Churches.

Just obey God. Church Gist. Obedience will turn you to a living wonder
Have you ever seen raise a prayer point of “O God, send us money”?
You have been here for some time, we pray every day. Now we pray 3 times a day:
Covenant Hour of Prayer;
Covenant Revival Prayer: Morning and Evening.

Going out every day on the streets.
You want to see what we see, go and do what we do. But if you are not saved, there is nothing you do that matters. There is nothing you do that matters.

Note: The Church has spent over 2 Billion naira to built over 1000 church auditoria in the first phase.

#BishopDavidOyedepo
#CHoP22July2021
#ChurchGist

CHoP is an acronym for Covenant Hour of Prayer.

Source:
https://www.facebook.com/444807728996437/posts/2487101721433684/

You don't even need to explain Sir, we had always known that anti Christ people were behind the misinformation

Make we hear word jare. Trying to sugar-coat what we already know. Winning souls Koh, winning ghosts ni

ensamy:

Well for me I think followership is also a big problem we have with most Pentecostal churches of nowadays where we believe that the General overseer or GO is always right in his actions and words. But it ought not to be so.
Even they was a time in the scriptures when Paul the apostle had to rebuke Peter because he was to be blamed. Yes but now Daddy G.O is right no matter the circumstances.

Theses churches are built by the hands of men you call your pastors and Mogs and so have nothing to do with God or Jesus Christ except for the lies those who run these businesses tell you of them.

The Church that belongs to Jesus Christ is built by Jesus Christ Himself and it is managed and cared for by Him and Him alone. And only those who live in continual submission to and obedience of His teachings and commandments belong in His Church.