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Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Kobojunkie: 4:52pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Romanoff:Even that very study is one of the many doctrines and traditions of men that Jesus Christ warned as nothing but lies where the Truth of God is concerned. ![]() All Jesus Christ did was give us comandments/rules and ask that we obey Him. He also instructed us against adding our own ideas and twist to what He says. ![]() |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Image123(m): 4:53pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Judolisco: It is not a forced thing for CONVERTS to be in one particular denomination. It is however important for converts to be in a Bible believing church for proper growth and nourishment. The early disciples gathered together and they were numbered and increased as shown. Do you have a problem with the numbering or the increase? |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by omasunny(m): 4:53pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by olaeffect(m): 4:54pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Hope you can see how you have missed the whole story in that bible verse simply because you were reading it with an argumentative spirit. What I was trying to point out to you from that passage was the act itself that was being supervised by Peter. Believers where selling their belongings and bringing the proceed to the feet of the Apostles for distribution amongst all who had need amongst themselves, now where is that a doctrine or where did Jesus tell them to do that according to your own understanding that the directives of Christ was just for them to preach the gospel. So after preaching the gospel and people accept the Gospel, do you in you own understanding think that is the end of a believers existence? Brother, after salvation you still have a glorious kingdom life to live before you go to heaven, that is where doctrine comes into play: *If your core interest is holiness; go to deeper live "If your core interest is prayer; go to mountain of fire *If your core interest is Abraham's dimensions of blessings (Financial prosperity); go to Winners Chapel We all have been saved. The same God that made one an apostle, also made another a pastor and yet another a prophet. I know most things I type here will be too deep for you to comprehend as they can only be understood by a spiritual minded person. 2 Likes |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Barnabe(m): 4:54pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Omo church business sure pass yahoo aswear ![]() |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Kobojunkie: 4:55pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
olaeffect:Pay attention... what I did was ask you a question! So, is it your understanding that when Peter confronted Ananias, and Saphira for lying against the Spirit of God, Peter, rather than be used to stand in judgement against them by the Spirit, was instead attempting to " teach" them a doctrine or even the Gospel? ![]() Was Peter preaching the Gospel in that case or standing in judgement against them? ![]() |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by stagger: 4:56pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
There is zero tolerance for lackadaisical pastors in Winners. I have worked with a pastor in a foreign country that grew a church from 10 persons to nearly 200 members in a year. The guy even had a job, but boy, this guy was a real pastor. Praying, evangelism, counselling, he was there at the forefront. 1 Like |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Nauttyprof(m): 4:57pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
PotatoSalad: Gullible. Your hatred for the church has made you believe anything. Did the man tell you his own side in the matter? NO, all he did was to paint the church bad. This is typical of any human being when things does not favour him or go his own way. He speaks evil of the other party. The heart of man is desperately wicked. |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Kobojunkie: 4:57pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
emapeteum:Nevermind! ![]() |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by triple996(m): 4:57pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by olaeffect(m): 4:58pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: I don't understand your point an nor is your question related to the discussion here. What is doctrine to you? What do you understand by doctrine, before we now go into examples of what is and not a doctrine. |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by lookingfly: 4:59pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
SexyBabe001:some churches baffle me at times, I onced stayed in a church for one year and the pastor kept saying anytime they go for their general program in Lagos and the cut of money he's Brach is supposed to remit is not up to the amount, that they don't allow them in for the program. That was when i knew church get business inside too.......most pastor face unnecessary financial pressures from the g.o and that's the plain truth. 1 Like |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by desiredhome: 4:59pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
CrestMan:Stop deceiving yourself and use your brain..... Same way they brainwash you with lies... that if you challenge their criminal acts you will be caused.... caused by who ?...... So many people still living in bondage in this 21st century.. 1 Like |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by soji1992: 5:00pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
So it's only in Nigeria where pastors are sacked! At the end of the day Does that make sense � |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Nauttyprof(m): 5:03pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
BafanaBafana: Hmmm..... I am not a member of winners but I believe Oyedepo wanted to knock off the believe that sacking the pastor was due money not being generate. Hence, the reason for the job creation thing. Your final submission on individuals is definitely right. Fear of God is missing nowadays and there are little messages out there that remind people on those sacred part of Christianity. Focus is on prosperity and this is affecting the spirituality of members. |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Nobody: 5:04pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
rollywise: The question is, how did they quantify that? |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Romanoff(f): 5:04pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: The great commission is the command of Jesus. And it's for everyone who is a disciple of Jesus. I believe we won't agree on this so I'll just stop here. |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by mechanics(m): 5:05pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Kobojunkie:Hmmmm, any one that does not know Jesus Christ is not fit to be a pastor. |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Nobody: 5:05pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Nauttyprof: So, if the church grew in population from 50 to 250 in one year, how do you quantify the souls won there? 1 Like |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Kobojunkie: 5:06pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
olaeffect:1. You brought up the story of Ananias and Saphira as justification of what occurs in your churches today, did you not? ![]() 2. Beginning in chapter 4, we are told that after being saved and recieving the Spirit of God, many of the first Christians sold all they had and brought it so they can use it as a group. ![]() 3. According to the story told of in Acts 5 vs 1 - 11, Peter stood against Ananias and Saphira for lying against the Spirit of God. What I want you to explain to me is how you feel Peter was in some way teaching a doctrine to them for their "salvation" or anything else as you do in your churches today, rather than doing exactly what is described in that passage which is condemn the liars? ![]() |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by olaeffect(m): 5:06pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Kobojunkie: Well you are not a Christian nor a member of the body of Christ so I owe you no explanation. But if you can ask your close friends that are believers or Christians they will let you know there were Churches in Corinth, Ephesus, etc in the days of the Apostles, and Churches (gathering of believers) spread all over the world, including branches of that singular church you are trying to say was built by Christ ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Nobody: 5:06pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Image123: Ok. He counted them. And you read...where... he said those were souls won? |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Judolisco(m): 5:07pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Image123:I don't have any problem with numbers... I'm an usher at my local church and we count every Sunday... My problem is sacking them after a year considering the pandemic, some were sent to Christian dominated areas like ekiti or benue I served in ekiti there's nothing u can do that people will leave their cac, Catholic, seven days, Anglican and come to winners except u are sharing food every Sunday... Even wen we did nysc rural rugged they were reluctant to come out until we started sharing things and giving free medical check up and drugs... Bishop made mention of fruitfulness.. Luke 13 talked about a master that wanted to destroy his vineyard after 3 Yrs of lack of productivity, but the servant asked him to be patient for one more year so he can tender it and if it still remains d same it can cut it off... Patience It's God that increases it's church no amount of evangelism can bring people 1 Corinthians 3:6 |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Kobojunkie: 5:07pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Romanoff:But the study you just referred me to assumes it is more than just that one command..there is a whole doctrinal school built around this great commission you speak of, and there are included lies that suggest that special rrewards await those win souls. ![]() All Jesus Christ did was give a command, without a blessing or promise attached to it. ![]() |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Nobody: 5:08pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Romanoff: Why do you as a pastor need to boast of any soul? And where did I talk of offering in my post? You guys always go on the defensive, and thereby lose focus on the point of discussion. |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by yinkkus: 5:10pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
SexyBabe001: my nature from my birth has been fairness, i don't get carried away with personalty. so to be clear to you i am not supporting the sacked pastor, the most i could do is to listen to his own side of the story too, i believe as an adult after he was sacked, there must be some verbal exchanges as to the reason he was sacked apart from the formal procedure, this is what he probably brought to the media and you don't except the G.O to fold his arms without defending or making a good image of his church.... so the main issue here is soulwinning, there is a thin line here, how can we measure soul winning in the church on the surface? is it not by members present? do you even know the mind of the members to know if their souls are won? and must a won soul come to your church? so the two may be saying the same thing in different ways. 1 Like |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Kobojunkie: 5:12pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
olaeffect:Jesus Christ Himself said that His Church is built by Him. ![]() And you are right, I am not one of your Churchians since I am instead of the Church that was built by Jesus Christ Himself. ![]() |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by ThatFairGuy1: 5:12pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
Hope Nairaland resident Pastor, righteousness2 is not among the sacked unproductive Pastors ![]() Prophesying Trump's winning alone is should get him sacked for being fake and his other Hypocritical nature ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Kobojunkie: 5:13pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
mechanics:Instead your pastors and Mogs are the false teachers and false prophets that Jesus Christ warned you against listening and associating with . ![]() |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Romanoff(f): 5:14pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
HedwigesMaduro: No. I talked about offering based on previous posts about this matter. This is actually the first time I'm commenting on this issue. Every Christian should be able to boast of a soul on a timely basis. As a pastor of a church, you should lead by example. |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Franklydes(m): 5:14pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
SexyBabe001:what are you saying na. Do you even reasoning, baba is still talking about money and you are saying his is not talking about money. Ah Nogerian youths and reason just don't mix |
Re: Why We Sacked Winners Pastors - Oyedepo Breaks Silence by Image123(m): 5:14pm On Jul 22, 2021 |
HedwigesMaduro: Yep, read Acts 2. |
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