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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:46pm On Aug 12, 2021
EXCL. Manchester City are not giving up on Harry Kane deal. Man City board preparing a new bid for €150m - if Spurs stance will change Tottenham have not received any new proposal for Kane yet, and want to keep him - Man City strategy is to be ready... and wait
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 3:51pm On Aug 12, 2021
Romelu Lukaku’s (second) Chelsea debut will be against Arsenal on the 22nd of August.

[@David_Ornstein]

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:58pm On Aug 12, 2021
Amoto94:
Romelu Lukaku’s (second) Chelsea debut will be against Arsenal on the 22nd of August.

[@David_Ornstein]
While Athletic is reporting
Romelu Lukaku's transfer to #Chelsea is unlikely to be formally completed before this weekend’s fixture against Crystal Palace. [via @TheAthleticUK]

Sky sports are saying
Romelu Lukaku to #Chelsea is 'almost done' and 'should be announced in the next few hours'. Pictures of Lukaku at Stamford Bridge, with Marina Granovskaia and signing his contract 'are coming'. [via @SkyKaveh]

Last last them announce Lukaku on Sunday

Contacts between #Chelsea and Atalanta for Davide Zappacosta are 'concrete'. [via @AlfredoPedulla]

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 4:12pm On Aug 12, 2021
MercylessMercy:


You are trying to say Havertz couldn't have made that pass because he lacks such intelligence to make such

Na cruise lass lass cheesy cheesy

All of a sudden assist matter, at a point it will be the pre assist
Lol... Same person/people who rubbished Mount's assist in UCL final suddenly found havertz assist significant and worthwhile grin

The Irony is that Mount's assist was more difficult than havertz own oo

Na real cruise be this thread las las grin grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 4:13pm On Aug 12, 2021
nihilistjnr:


You would be doing the Lord's work! grin
Lol... I want to leave it for the elderly Sir cheesy grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 4:13pm On Aug 12, 2021
popizaino:


Just like RLC,CHO is about to serve you L that you wont be able to dodge. An obvious one.

Hehehe. Coming from someone who is carrying a big L over Ross Barkley. I thought that matter was already settled. Barkley has been transfer-listed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 4:17pm On Aug 12, 2021
BlueRayDick:


grin grin grin

How now?
ain't you tired of hearing bullshit about players must move to Barcelona or real Madrid to win balon d'or.

If Chelsea player wins balon d'or, that's will put nail on that nonsense talk.

That's why I wanted VVd for balon d'or that time after people started saying Ronaldo was robbed of balon d'or cos he left Madrid (which is the truth if you look at it)


Players with balon d'or ambitions shouldn't necessarily have to move to Madrid or barca.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 4:20pm On Aug 12, 2021
MaziAlaye:

Can't remember what Nedved danced to win it in 2003 despite having lower stats than Henry... also can't remember zidane giving any dancing move to win it in 2006 despite having lower stats... Football is more than stats
that's why I said we need specific metric to pick balon d'or or we will continue to have robbing Peter for Paul situation.

For Me, im tired of balon d'or coming from influencial team in uefa.

Until we have that metric, jorginho or nothing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 4:22pm On Aug 12, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
what is his stat in central midfield Na.
Post it.


Let's compare it with other central midfielder like kdb who were also at the world cup but didn't win Balon d'or for some reason you can tell me.
Kdb Did he even win the bronze ball at the world cup? What I was telling you is that the comparison is unfair, only posting the categories like interceptions and tackles that favoured jorginho over Modric rather than the whole thing, If I use the same metric in your pic for busquets and xavi, busquets would top it too
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 4:22pm On Aug 12, 2021
Kilishihunter:

Kdb Did he even win the bronze ball at the world cup? What I was telling you is that the comparison is unfair, only posting the categories like interceptions and tackles that favoured jorginho over Modric rather than the whole thing, If I use the same metric in your pic for busquets and xavi, busquets would top it too
oh

So it's about what the team won now? Not individual stat grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 4:23pm On Aug 12, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
oh

So it's about what the team won now? Not individual stat grin
Do they give world cup golden ball to the countries or player undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 4:26pm On Aug 12, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
that's why I said we need specific metric to pick balon d'or or we will continue to have robbing Peter for Paul situation.

For Me, im tired of balon d'or coming from influencial team in uefa.

Until we have that metric, jorginho or nothing.

Ballon d or is given by a team of journalists not UEFA bro, btw what do you consider as the metric for it being given to a player?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 4:27pm On Aug 12, 2021
eitsei:
nothing is taking away that balon d'or from Messi not that I want to him to win it sha
and jorginho will be robbed.

I like Messi probably more than anyone else here but Coppa America is not enough to win balon D'or.

If Copa is enough, then AFCON should be in the debate too.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 4:31pm On Aug 12, 2021
Kilishihunter:

Ballon d or is given by a team of journalists not UEFA bro, btw what do you consider as the metric for it being given to a player?
the most popular unwritten metric has always been(atleast in the last decade or so), that your team wins something tangible like UEFA champions league, world cup. And you have to be influencial in that team.

Kante can be considered most influential player in the team on the way to UCL trophy but since it all happened in the year that we have Copa and euro. Those were considered to and who is the next best thing if not jorginho?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 4:38pm On Aug 12, 2021
The thing with Chalobah is that his versatility is very important. The dude can play wing-back, in all CB positions, and in midfield. That's like 7 positions he can cover in our setup.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MaziAlaye(m): 4:42pm On Aug 12, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
that's why I said we need specific metric to pick balon d'or or we will continue to have robbing Peter for Paul situation.

For Me, im tired of balon d'or coming from influencial team in uefa.

Until we have that metric, jorginho or nothing.


When last did Jorginho win MOTM let's start there

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 4:42pm On Aug 12, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
the most popular unwritten metric has always been(atleast in the last decade or so), that your team wins something tangible like UEFA champions league, world cup. And you have to be influencial in that team.

Kante can be considered most influential player in the team on the way to UCL trophy but since it all happened in the year that we have Copa and euro. Those were considered to and who is the next best thing if not jorginho?

Well what I know is that it's being given to the best performing player in a calendar year span, Well on the trophies side you might be mostly right as he has won big trophies thrice but quick question bro was Jorginho the best performing player in either Italy or Chelsea?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 4:50pm On Aug 12, 2021
Kilishihunter:

Well what I know is that it's being given to the best performing player in a calendar year span, Well on the trophies side you might be mostly right as he has won big trophies thrice but quick question bro was Jorginho the best performing player in either Italy or Chelsea?
jorginho is Chelsea's highest goal scorer on EPL.
And his passing stat is off the chart.

Chelsea didn't have best performing player in 2021.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 4:54pm On Aug 12, 2021
MaziAlaye:


When last did Jorginho win MOTM let's start there
What does that have to do with anything?

Motm always favour goal scorers.

How many motm did Modric have in UCL when he won balon d'or.

Ronaldo with most motm didnt even win it. cheesy


By the way, jorginho was part of team of the tournament.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 5:01pm On Aug 12, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
jorginho is Chelsea's highest goal scorer on EPL.
And his passing stat is off the chart.

Chelsea didn't have best performing player in 2021.
Mount was awarded Chelsea player of the season, Kante's name was all over the place after the matches against real Madrid and man City, though both were not attackers, So what are you telling me bro? Even the goals he scored in EPL were penalties,

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 5:04pm On Aug 12, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
What does that have to do with anything?

Motm always favour goal scorers.

How many motm did Modric have in UCL when he won balon d'or.

Ronaldo with most motm didnt even win it. cheesy


By the way, jorginho was part of team of the tournament.
Modric won that award courtesy of his performance in the world cup...
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 5:06pm On Aug 12, 2021
Kilishihunter:

Mount was awarded Chelsea player of the season, Kante's name was all over the place after the matches against real Madrid and man City, though he isn't an attacker, So what are you telling me bro?
mount was best player of the season cos he was the most consistent and he had more appearance then everyone else.
He isn't necessarily the best performing.

Kante didn't do well in Euro 2020.

Between Kante and mount, who is your best?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 5:08pm On Aug 12, 2021
patrickmuf:
Modric won that award courtesy of his performance in the world cup...
but are there no players with motm in world cup?

Should we start using most motm as standard for balon D'or?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 5:10pm On Aug 12, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
but are there no players with motm in world cup?

Should we start using most motm as standard for balon D'or?
No, we shouldn't...But as for Modric, his outstanding performance in the world cup gave him an edge...The fact that he did it with Croatia was even more impressive.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 5:10pm On Aug 12, 2021
patrickmuf:
No, we shouldn't...But as for Modric, his outstanding performance in the world cup gave him an edge...The fact that he did it with Croatia was even more impressive.
outstanding In what sense?

What did he do for Croatia that hazard and kdb didn do
Or mbappe and Pogba and Kante didn't do?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PDPGuy: 5:11pm On Aug 12, 2021
PSG will be lethal on corner kicks this season, with Marquinhos and Ramos being their starting CBs!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 5:12pm On Aug 12, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
ain't you tired of hearing bullshit about players must move to Barcelona or real Madrid to win balon d'or.

If Chelsea player wins balon d'or, that's will put nail on that nonsense talk.

That's why I wanted VVd for balon d'or that time after people started saying Ronaldo was robbed of balon d'or cos he left Madrid (which is the truth if you look at it)


Players with balon d'or ambitions shouldn't necessarily have to move to Madrid or barca.

Ororo won his first Ballon D'or based on his performance at man utd na.

All those talks about not giving a player because he's not a barca or Madrid player na beer parlor talk. We've seen AC Milan player like kaka win it in the past......

If a player is deemed to merit it by majority of those doing the voting, then he will surely get it irrespective of the club he plays for.

Jorginho was not Chelsea's best player last season, neither was he Italy's best player at the Euros.....Jorginho winning the Ballon D'or will attract more criticism than Modric's own sef

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 5:17pm On Aug 12, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
mount was best player of the season cos he was the most consistent and he had more appearance then everyone else.
He isn't necessarily the best performing.

Kante didn't do well in Euro 2020.

Between Kante and mount, who is your best?
So far the Chelsea awardees gave mount player of the season, that means they deemed him best for that time, Kante's performances bore more fruit than others in the later stages towards the UCL, Since you can't lay claim to jorginho being the best player in Chelsea, what about in Italy where he won the euros?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kilishihunter: 5:19pm On Aug 12, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Ororo won his first Ballon D'or based on his performance at man utd na.

All those talks about not giving a player because he's not a barca or Madrid player na beer parlor talk. We've seen AC Milan player like kaka win it in the past......

If a player is deemed to merit it by majority of those doing the voting, then he will surely get it irrespective of the club he plays for.

Jorginho was not Chelsea's best player last season, neither was he Italy's best player at the Euros.....Jorginho winning the Ballon D'or will attract more criticism than Modric's own sef
Lewandowski would have most likely won it last year if they didn't cancel the award
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NinjaMetahuman: 5:25pm On Aug 12, 2021
BlueRayDick:


Ororo won his first Ballon D'or based on his performance at man utd na.

All those talks about not giving a player because he's not a barca or Madrid player na beer parlor talk. We've seen AC Milan player like kaka win it in the past......

If a player is deemed to merit it by majority of those doing the voting, then he will surely get it irrespective of the club he plays for.

Jorginho was not Chelsea's best player last season, neither was he Italy's best player at the Euros.....Jorginho winning the Ballon D'or will attract more criticism than Modric's own sef
it's about football politics and media building a team up to serve as propaganda.

Pre Ronaldo and Messi era, we didn't have to worry about player being from a certain team to win balon d'or.
Even till after 2012, best players just wanna join teams that could guarante UCL trophy or be competitive in UCL.
One of the reasons hazard signed for Chelsea.

Now we have best players trying to ship themselves to Madrid cos media and politics have built them up as a team balon d'or player have to be if they want to be the best.

Madrid wining and Barca players winning balon D'or every year is not even helping matter.

Now we have situation whereby the likes of hazard mbappe think they need force their way to Madrid to be the best.
Imagine, mbappe still trying to join Madrid even when his current team has bigger chance of winning UCL than Madrid.

Despite Chelsea being UCL winner, if let's say halaand wants to chose a team today. Madrid and Chelsea are available, which team did you think he would chose.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Almajirihunter(m): 5:27pm On Aug 12, 2021
Jorginho and ballon’dor in one sentence cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by MaziAlaye(m): 5:45pm On Aug 12, 2021
NinjaMetahuman:
What does that have to do with anything?

Motm always favour goal scorers.

How many motm did Modric have in UCL when he won balon d'or.

Ronaldo with most motm didnt even win it. cheesy


By the way, jorginho was part of team of the tournament.

How many UCL MOTM did Kante get and how many goals did he score?
Btw Modric won 3 MOTM in 5games during the world Cup and he won 3 MOTM in UCL KO Stage...

Even if you're to measure with goals, Jorginho doesn't have a goal that isn't penalty this season so??

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