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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by bukatyne(f): 12:02pm On Aug 15, 2021
JESHAL:



I take full responsibility but I'm saying in the garden of Eden they were both equals, if Adam was superior that nonsense probably would not have happened, regardless he chose to follow his wife and disobey, it's his fault

Have I stated they were/are not equal?

Or do you think my stating Eve was deceived is absorbing her of blame?

Have you seen anyone acquitted in court because he was deceived to carry drugs? They will only add the deceiver to the case.

Ignorance is not an excuse before the law.
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Nobody: 12:04pm On Aug 15, 2021
bukatyne:


A woman has to be promiscuous to be hypergamous.

If she is with A and sees a better B, she has to leave A for B till she gets to Z.

I don't believe the hypergamous/polygamous nonsense anyways.

Exactly, Men naturally are polygnous , it's like taking a piss, a woman is evolutionary hardwired to be very selective with her sexuality, remember they have few eggs , that's why prostitutes charge money and men are the biggest consumers of pornography, a woman must be aroused by you good looks or game, but a man will fvck anything in skirt even if she's ugly and unattractive, that's our libido due to testerones which drives our sexual urges
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Nobody: 12:04pm On Aug 15, 2021
bukatyne:


Have I stated they were/are not equal?

Or do you think my stating Eve was deceived is absorbing her of blame?

Have you seen anyone acquitted in court because he was deceived to carry drugs? They will only add the deceiver to the case.

Ignorance is not an excuse before the law.

Exactly
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 12:12pm On Aug 15, 2021
queenblossom:


Na God go bless you for at least speaking up for the truth. I will say it anyway any time that I am a strong believer of feminism. Any man condemning feminism is an evil man. Period. We are fighting for our right. We deserve to be treated as human and not as slave. If christ came to the world to wipe away our sins. Then the sun of Eve is not supposed to continue to follow us till we die. Or did jesus only wiped the sin of man and not the sin of woman.
so you want Dominion over a man
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Nobody: 12:16pm On Aug 15, 2021
CHoccolaTE:



So who told you feminists are responsible for single parenthood and not irresponsible men that want to keep sleeping around instead of sticking around to raise their kids.

Single motherhood is more prevalent among black people and that is why majority of inmates in prisons are black males. The reason these men became criminals is not because of feminism or single motherhood, they are adults with minds of their own.
Also, They are in a society that is heavily biased and racist against black people and police do not waste time to arrest black people for offences white people get pardoned for.

What about in Nigeria where males from the North turn out to be almajiri or bandits and they have a patriarchal system of polygamy in place there. Will it be sensible to blame patriarchy and polygamy for banditry and almajiri lifestyle?

Or Southern Nigeria where patriarchy is being practiced and there are few baby mamas but the males are yahoo boys and ritualists. Can we blame patriarchy for Internet fraud and ritual killing as well, like the way you blame feminism for criminal behaviour of males as if males are not naturally more violent and prone to criminality

Before the Sexual revolution invention of the birth control pills and legalization of Abortion, women were conservative and rarely had sex outside marriage due to risk of pregnancy, children out of wedlock was unpopular and divorce was not common, family units were valued, until the move to liberalism, via changing the laws to allow no fault divorce


Women are the ones that control sex and reproduction, it's your body and your choice, without your permission sex will not happen except in the case of rape, you choose the man who to procreate with, with more than 20 birth control options including Abortion, while men just have two condoms and vasectomy, why would you choose to bring a child into these world out of wedlock when statistically a two parents household is the best for raising children inside the confinement of marriage, why can't you have non-protective sex only in marriage showing women don't care about the consequences of their poor reproductive choices, if we remove alimony, child support,and welfare social programs you would see how women would be responsible overnight


In Nigeria it's as result of poverty most of the time, western societies don't have that excuse, see Islamic countries like UAE Qatar, Oman, Bahrain are very much traditional and they are not experiencing the nonsense Nigeria is experiencing and are highly developed Societies

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by neyoohhh: 12:21pm On Aug 15, 2021
CHoccolaTE:



So who told you feminists are responsible for single parenthood and not irresponsible men that want to keep sleeping around instead of sticking around to raise their kids.

Single motherhood is more prevalent among black people and that is why majority of inmates in prisons are black males. The reason these men became criminals is not because of feminism or single motherhood, they are adults with minds of their own.
Also, They are in a society that is heavily biased and racist against black people and police do not waste time to arrest black people for offences white people get pardoned for.

What about in Nigeria where males from the North turn out to be almajiri or bandits and they have a patriarchal system of polygamy in place there. Will it be sensible to blame patriarchy and polygamy for banditry and almajiri lifestyle?

Or Southern Nigeria where patriarchy is being practiced and there are few baby mamas but the males are yahoo boys and ritualists. Can we blame patriarchy for Internet fraud and ritual killing as well, like the way you blame feminism for criminal behaviour of males as if males are not naturally more violent and prone to criminality

Well documented, feminism and the welfare state destroyed the black American family, not slavery or prejudice. How come other blacks succeed in America but blacks can't?

It goes hand in hand, black American women empowered by feminism dropped the father figure replacing it with welfare, and raised hoodlums.

As for Nigeria the same principles apply, there's no welfare so the next type of provisioning is prostitution. Prostitution is also an attempt to drop fatherhood.

The consequences are the same, structural poverty + liberalism lead's to an abandonment of traditional families which leads to dysfunctionalities, which then raises an irreparable generation.

Europeans have fared better because of wealth and power, not very much blacks, hence why we say don't copy thing's you can't control.

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by wany(f): 12:31pm On Aug 15, 2021
bukatyne:


The topic is controversial and different from the OP.

I think 'Sexism or better put 'Misogyny in the Church's is a better title because you are dealing with sexism from one angle: man to woman.

That said, I have opened a thread on same issue. While I have not noticed the general misogyny in the Church (outside marriage), the Nigerian church greatly enables terrible husbands.

Greatly.

That's why any woman who claims to be a Christian should study the Bible and know what is expected of a Christian husband and demand it in her future spouse.
Is this really coming from you. undecided

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by bukatyne(f): 12:33pm On Aug 15, 2021
wany:

Is this really coming from you. undecided

What? undecided
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by wany(f): 12:41pm On Aug 15, 2021
queenblossom:
A woman is being raped and she is scared to speak up , because when she speak up,she will be blamed and the man will go free . I remember some years back when I was ganged raped, I couldn't open up to alter a word to anyone because in those days you there not say it. Not now that women are coming out to speak up . And now women are speaking up and they are still being condemned for speaking. And they say feminism is evil. You do not have the right to speak. And even some so called women of God ,still join the men to condemn us for speaking . We will fight this evil till we win the battle. Yes call it feminism, I don't care. The way of feminism has not even started and they are scared already. We are just in genesis now,by the time we get to malachi they will understand.
Young sis I feel you, read this book our mothers were slaves, and you will weep for the African woman.have said it here countless times the liberation of a sister is the night mare of a brother.is good to know women are now wakeing up to self worth but then I also see a gender war lurking behind the cottons. undecided

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by MrNipplesLover(m): 12:46pm On Aug 15, 2021
Thank you, Jesus.

❤❤❤❤
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 12:47pm On Aug 15, 2021
BRATISLAVA:


When you can't face it, you try to turn it into a personal attack.

Who told you I grew up in the ghetto? Don't become ridiculous in your deflection and detraction from the truth. Some of you are so scared of the reality you begin to post your hallucinations about me. You know nothing about me.

Guess it's another one of the "it's your_______" crew on the beat.

Jump out of my mentions. You have nothing sensible to say. These particular assumptions you made make you sound stupid.
so you want women to rule over you

Why not ask the US to be under Nigeria since you so advocate equality

Perhaps you would ask God to explain himself to you afterall he is a being

Yours truly was recently a victim of feminism
A woman attacked me in my house , destroyed my properties ,tore my clothes but fools like u said

* You for comot from the house give am
Another said
*You no know say na woman

*If woman dey curse u Waka leave am

The idiots said I was wrong in my own house , shouldn't have retaliated

If you want women to rule over u it's up to you just don't bring this foolishness online

In contrast to what most simp think

FEMINISM IS NOT GENDER EQUALITY ITS FEMALE SUPERIORITY

No insult intended but







if foolishness could be measured you would be used as it's si unit

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by neyoohhh: 12:47pm On Aug 15, 2021
wany:

Young sis I feel you, read this book our mothers were slaves, and you will weep for the African woman.have said it here countless times the liberation of a sister is the night mare of a brother.is good to know women are now wakeing up to self worth but then I also see a gender war lurking behind the cottons. undecided

Your mother's were slave seller's.

Efunshetan aniwura comes to mind, your current generation of women are sex traffickers, please go do some research on dubai, turkey, Italy .

I get it cooking and cleaning was slavery.

undecided

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by wany(f): 12:49pm On Aug 15, 2021
neyoohhh:


Well documented, feminism and the welfare state destroyed the black American family, not slavery or prejudice. How come other blacks succeed in America but blacks can't?

It goes hand in hand, black American women empowered by feminism dropped the father figure replacing it with welfare, and raised hoodlums.

As for Nigeria the same principles apply, there's no welfare so the next type of provisioning is prostitution. Prostitution is also an attempt to drop fatherhood.

The consequences are the same, structural poverty + liberalism lead's to an abandonment of traditional families which leads to dysfunctionalities, which then raises an irreparable generation.

Europeans have fared better because of wealth and power, not very much blacks, hence why we say don't copy thing's you can't control.

What traditional family are you talking about here, the one the woman is silent and unseen,the man throws all manner of thrash at the woman while she is suppose to endure and make her marriage.if ataga did not meet his death in the hands of chidima ,he too would have come to a forum like this to attack feminist, while frolicking and doing drugs with his daughter age mate.let the woman have their voice undecided
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by CHoccolaTE: 12:52pm On Aug 15, 2021
JESHAL:


Before the Sexual revolution invention of the birth control pills and legalization of Abortion, women were conservative and rarely had sex outside marriage due to risk of pregnancy, children out of wedlock was unpopular and divorce was not common, family units were valued, until the move to liberalism, via changing the laws to allow no fault divorce


Women are the ones that control sex and reproduction, it's your body and your choice, without your permission sex will not happen except in the case of rape, you choose the man who to procreate with, with more than 20 birth control options including Abortion, while men just have two condoms and vasectomy, why would you choose to bring a child into these world out of wedlock when statistically a two parents household is the best for raising children inside the confinement of marriage, why can't you have non-protective sex only in marriage showing women don't care about the consequences of their poor reproductive choices, if we remove alimony, child support,and welfare social programs you would see how women would be responsible overnight


In Nigeria it's as result of poverty most of the time, western societies don't have that excuse, see Islamic countries like UAE Qatar, Oman, Bahrain are very much traditional and they are not experiencing the nonsense Nigeria is experiencing and are high developed Societies


I will never understand the love you males have for blaming women for everything.

So because women control access to sex, it now means men cannot lie and pretend to get sex then abandon their children and mother to keep sleeping around? You are just hell bent on blaming feminism for single parenthood and male crimes.

1. Bad governance and corruption is the reason why Nigeria is backward.

2. Males in general are naturally more promiscuous that is why they run from marriage and family in the US, because they want to keep sleeping around and their society is not traditional or religious so nobody attacks them for it unlike in some African countries.

3. Racism is the reason why more black males are imprisoned, not single parenthood. Blacks are just roughly 15% of the population in USA but make up almost 40% of inmates in prison. Many cops have been exposed as racist and biased against black people.

4. Those UAE countries you listed are oil rich countries that is why they thrive. Its not because of patriarchy.

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by wany(f): 12:54pm On Aug 15, 2021
neyoohhh:


Your mother's were slave seller's.

Efunshetan aniwura comes to mind, your current generation of women are sex traffickers, please go do some research on dubai, turkey, Italy .

I get it cooking and cleaning was slavery.

undecided
Will heaven fall if you also cook and wash,after all is a survival skill. undecided

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by neyoohhh: 12:56pm On Aug 15, 2021
[quote author=wany post=104814552][/quote]

All products of a dysfunctional society, don't add more to it with ill advised, ill fated doctrines of feminism.

The farther out humans move away from true stable intimacy based relationship's the more violent society becomes.
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by DEMZEE(m): 12:57pm On Aug 15, 2021
bukatyne:


Same God that created Adam & Eve?

Not Adam & Eves?

It is part of the consequences of the fall of man.

And either men or women can be promiscuous.

Afterall, Durex calls Nigerian women are amongst the most promiscuous women in the world.

That alone blows your theory out of water.

Women are hypergamous not promiscuous.

If women are promiscuous why do they see sex as a value loaded exchange when it's just a handshake??
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by neyoohhh: 1:01pm On Aug 15, 2021
wany:

Will heaven fall if you also cook and wash,after all is a survival skill. undecided

Nope. Not an issue but I won't tolerate a woman who calls herself a feminist.

You give you receive.

Feminism isn't in your best interests, it turns you into commodities.

Enjoy your liberties, do good for society, raise good children, select good partners. It's that simple.

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by BRATISLAVA: 1:01pm On Aug 15, 2021
ume1000:
so you want women to rule over you

Why not ask the US to be under Nigeria since you so advocate equality

Perhaps you would ask God to explain himself to you afterall he is a being

Yours truly was recently a victim of feminism
A woman attacked me in my house , destroyed my properties ,tore my clothes but fools like u said

* You for comot from the house give am
Another said
*You no know say na woman

*If woman dey curse u Waka leave am

The idiots said I was wrong in my own house , shouldn't have retaliated

If you want women to rule over u it's up to you just don't bring this foolishness online

In contrast to what most simp think

FEMINISM IS NOT GENDER EQUALITY ITS FEMALE SUPERIORITY

No insult intended but







if foolishness could be measured you would be used as it's si unit

LMAO.

What does what you quoted have to do with your post?

Your story is more funny than stupid at this point.

You're another emotional man who can't stick to the topic due to his assumptions. How do you know what I would've said? Isn't that foolish of you to claim?

If you have a problem with simps who advised you, go and meet women who have been told to apologize to their husbands after the masochists beat them to comas.

BTW, hope you've apologized to said lady? You didn't watch your mouth with her. See what your nagging caused.

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by enthronedbyGod1: 1:01pm On Aug 15, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Perhaps "comparing" is what we've been compelled to do since those who ought to speak against such evils keep mute.

I have never heard you speak up against sexism, but strongly against feminism just as most Christian men do, which I noted in the Op.

Why is that?


Comparing both is giving a soft landing to one and making it seem like a lesser evil.
I agree that most Christian men speak more on the issue of feminism than that of misogyny or sexism, and my agreeing is not in reference to your comment about righteousness not speaking against it cos I can't accuse him of nothing I know about.
However a lot of us have spoken about both, and still speak about both, so I think you should have spoken against both instead of comparing.

God bless
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 1:04pm On Aug 15, 2021
BRATISLAVA:


LMAO.

What does what you quoted have to do with your post?

Your story is more funny than stupid at this point.

You're another emotional man who can't stick to the topic due to his assumptions. How do you know what I would've said? Isn't that foolish of you to claim?

If you have a problem with simps who advised you, go and meet women who have been told to apologize to their husbands after the masochists beat them to comas.

Hope you've apologized to said lady? You didn't watch your mouth with her.

did you advocate for female superiority aka feminism

Yes or no
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by NaijaHelper1(m): 1:04pm On Aug 15, 2021
I had to do a double take just to be sure I'm still on Nairaland.
Who are all these intelligent people reacting to this post and where have they come from?
Are these Nairalanders?
Do they live here in Nigeria or they're commenting from the other side?
This truly makes me happy to see we have this calibre of people alive and well in this Country.

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by BRATISLAVA: 1:05pm On Aug 15, 2021
ume1000:
did you advocate for female superiority aka feminism

Yes or no


"No insult intended but







if foolishness could be measured you would be used as it's si unit"

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by reddingtonblack: 1:06pm On Aug 15, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Perhaps "comparing" is what we've been compelled to do since those who ought to speak against such evils keep mute.

I have never heard you speak up against sexism, but strongly against feminism just as most Christian men do, which I noted in the Op.

Why is that?



Righteousness gave you the best reply i can ever think of. have you ever wondered why jesus had 12 disciples nd not even one female made the list.
i find it preposterous the only place the word "feminism" appeared was just in the topic ... what did you say you were doing again, comparism my burnt ass

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 1:07pm On Aug 15, 2021
BRATISLAVA:


"No insult intended but







if foolishness could be measured you would be used as it's si unit"
na so the yab pain u reach

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by jesusjnr2020(m): 1:08pm On Aug 15, 2021
Hmm...
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 1:14pm On Aug 15, 2021
BRATISLAVA:


You still sound incredibly stupid. How do you manage to do it?

Renew your mind and stop hallucinating.

Some grew up in palaces with great networks and supposedly good women in their lives, yet they are as backward as the ghetto when it comes to human rights and equality. What a joke.

are you a male or a transgendered

Don't take this as an insult o

Just asking cus u didn't state your gender
Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 1:21pm On Aug 15, 2021
TWLifestyle:
the husband is NOT the head of the home . A hone is an EQUAL partnership between husband and wife .
that was how gay and lesbian started

Men wanted to be women while women crave to be men

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by Karleb(m): 1:31pm On Aug 15, 2021
Feminism is a form of sexism.

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by wany(f): 1:33pm On Aug 15, 2021
CHoccolaTE:



So who told you feminists are responsible for single parenthood and not irresponsible men that want to keep sleeping around instead of sticking around to raise their kids.

Single motherhood is more prevalent among black people and that is why majority of inmates in prisons are black males. The reason these men became criminals is not because of feminism or single motherhood, they are adults with minds of their own.
Also, They are in a society that is heavily biased and racist against black people and police do not waste time to arrest black people for offences white people get pardoned for.

What about in Nigeria where males from the North turn out to be almajiri or bandits and they have a patriarchal system of polygamy in place there. Will it be sensible to blame patriarchy and polygamy for banditry and almajiri lifestyle?

Or Southern Nigeria where patriarchy is being practiced and there are few baby mamas but the males are yahoo boys and ritualists. Can we blame patriarchy for Internet fraud and ritual killing as well, like the way you blame feminism for criminal behaviour of males as if males are not naturally more violent and prone to criminality
Go through most post here by men and you will note how shallow and weak their defenses are,then look at the female post and see well detail analysis and research word play,now secondly notice the comprehension level of most men on feminism and you will understand why a woman has always being hush down.the deep fear and threat of the libral woman,is a cry for help from men. undecided

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Re: Sexism Or Feminism? Which Is Worse? by ume1000: 1:38pm On Aug 15, 2021
BRATISLAVA:


If we are following our feelings of superiority to be what nature demands, we would be right to accept the slavery of blacks and the supremacy of the white man. They believed it is nature for them to be above blacks and rule them. They graciously came to Africa to make sure of it and get manpower to do wonders. If we follow the Bible on such things, they have a right and reason to. And they have proved it was divinely mandated by the extent to which they have singlehandedly developed the world for all humanity. They are truly the lords of this planet.
is Nigeria the most populus black nation equal in strength to the us

Would you ask the us to step down for Nigeria to hop in

Even God asked job

Can u put a hook in Leviathan , would he plead with you , would you display him as an amusement for your maid servant

Somethings are just the way they are

The earth orbits the sun not the other way round attempting to reverse that would collapse the solar system

Replacing the CPU with a disk drive leaves you a dysfunctional pc

Invention are discovered not built (laws already govern this applied principles)

Discrupting these laws would only lead to choas

Am not against gender equality but female superiority (feminism) is a big NO

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