siofra:


The sense in this your post is more than all the sense in all the redpillers head on this forum.

Firefoxy:
Recently, you notice a lot of single guys making threads to give relationship advice to girls and telling them how to act in relationships. Hardly would you see a girl make a thread to ask for a lover, or tell men how to act in relationships.

We’ve come to the times where more and more men are growing desperate as they do not meet the standards of women. Sometimes they project their insecurities on women by saying you’d be alone forever, other times they try to convince you that you need to get married as soon as possible, even though you have no interest in it. You’re supposed to believe that you need them more, that way you become desperate too and stoop low to accept these low quality men.

Although they first convince themselves that they have to become a certain type of man, only then will women chase them. But it never works. Because they take advice from and listen to other desperate and bitter men, instead of women.

Research has shown that as time goes by, more men will be involuntary single.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim

They become incels and they pose a great danger to women. Because the world isn’t like it used to be, and more women are losing interest. They feel entitled to a life partner and when they can’t get that, desperation turns to hate. From belittling women on the internet, to committing crimes like rape and femicide. I’m afraid the time is here.


Good afternoon.

Palema007:
I used "sound" not "look" lol... Nevermind.

Well what you wrote up there sounded like a sob story of a confused toddler trying to convince his adamant mom why he needs a new pair of shoes.

"Everything ends in death" lol.. that was so funny to read. . Lol @shaming , sorry you felt that way. Not my intention, let's just agree that I got carried away

Magnoliaa:


There's a difference between being involuntarily single and being intentionally single?

Mtcheeewww. E be like say this one never hear of family planning and contraceptives.

All these teenage pregnancies and associated 'menace' is only an issue in countries where there is a general aversion to sex education.

Do I even need to tell you that the abortion rate is low, very low in countries where they are legalised?

So, no. Sexually aware/educated women = sexually responsible women

Educated women = awareness and sound decisions when it comes to marriage and number of kids to have.

All those loneliness talks are just sham. And you can easily sell it to the women here because they don't know better.

The woke Nordic countries don't seem as degenerated as your beloved patriarchal and religious and values-filled Africa.

No woman's life will be destroyed because she's not hinged to a man in any way - whether through kids, marriage or a family.

Men are going their own way, yet they are the one shooting up women and stalking and raping them because of sexual rejection and rejection to relationships. For all of the bitterness y'all claim feminists have, how many of us are going out to shoot men because we can't find a date?

So, no. The lack of suitable partners for marriage will not both affect us, or affect us the same way and our responses to such will definitely not be the same.

Even here on Nairaland, call it pretentiousness, but you'll never know if some lady likes a guy, even back when the 'toasting threads' were a thing, you'll find women declaring their feelings for a guy. Let it be a man that likes a girl, he'll troll her to heaven and hell and back, shame the living daylight out of her and do all manners of despicable thing to her because he wants her attention.

The men that ask women out normally are the outliers. The women that shoot up men because of rejection are also outliers. So it is a big fat lie when y'all come up with the 'women don't take rejection well' line. No matter how hurt or pained she is, a rejected lady is hardly thinking of ways to meet a man on the road and rape him in revenge.

Magnoliaa:


There's a difference between being involuntarily single and being intentionally single?

Mtcheeewww. E be like say this one never hear of family planning and contraceptives.

All these teenage pregnancies and associated 'menace' is only an issue in countries where there is a general aversion to sex education.

Do I even need to tell you that the abortion rate is low, very low in countries where they are legalised?

So, no. Sexually aware/educated women = sexually responsible women

Educated women = awareness and sound decisions when it comes to marriage and number of kids to have.

All those loneliness talks are just sham. And you can easily sell it to the women here because they don't know better.

The woke Nordic countries don't seem as degenerated as your beloved patriarchal and religious and values-filled Africa.

No woman's life will be destroyed because she's not hinged to a man in any way - whether through kids, marriage or a family.

Men are going their own way, yet they are the one shooting up women and stalking and raping them because of sexual rejection and rejection to relationships. For all of the bitterness y'all claim feminists have, how many of us are going out to shoot men because we can't find a date?

So, no. The lack of suitable partners for marriage will not both affect us, or affect us the same way and our responses to such will definitely not be the same.

Even here on Nairaland, call it pretentiousness, but you'll never know if some lady likes a guy, even back when the 'toasting threads' were a thing, you'll find women declaring their feelings for a guy. Let it be a man that likes a girl, he'll troll her to heaven and hell and back, shame the living daylight out of her and do all manners of despicable thing to her because he wants her attention.

The men that ask women out normally are the outliers. The women that shoot up men because of rejection are also outliers. So it is a big fat lie when y'all come up with the 'women don't take rejection well' line. No matter how hurt or pained she is, a rejected lady is hardly thinking of ways to meet a man on the road and rape him in revenge.

Magnoliaa:
Lol. To be sincere. This conversation has happened on Twitter and it was a man who tabled it. They could afford to be shitty because all they needed to do was provide money, as the sole breadwinners. Now women are demanding more from them character-wise and it's sending them in a frenzy.

LINTUNE:
STFU b**ch..that guy just told u the truth, you don't have to emotional about it..if a guy breaks your heart, move on and stop acting like a child.. your bitterness towards men changes nothing..the likes of chimamanda, cardi b, lizzo and even Simi are happily married, they will submit to thier husbands in real life , but come online to decieve buttered gals like you with feminist talks, use your head madam..

Firefoxy:

takimsipho:
Correct yourself. That's how oyibo women form hatred for men, then one small yahoo boy who didn't finish SS3 will scam them online working on the fantasies and insecurities. You girls don't acknowledge that shit happens in life. A girl I dated for 4 years and planed to marry got pregnant for some guy who abandoned her with the baby. I was shattered emotionally, but it doesn't mean that I hate women in general. People get hurt and move on. I bet when you were 16 years old, you didn't have all this view about men

Lightway:


Your profile pic... Is that Dubai?

Or which city?

Palema007:
Sigh.... Your quest to be right, your thirst for validation and your desire to have the last say is what is stopping you to see what really this thread is all about.

This isn't a Man hating thread! I don't hate men either! Naaahhhh I love Men! And respect men just as I respect women. I love the Men in my life, I don't preach or instigate hatred either. Shuu I spent hours on prick thread yesterday, you come dey tell me I hate prick owners? which kind misyarn be that!

Contrary to your belief and others who suffer herd mentality on here jumping up and down to defend what is not, to a sensible mind this is an objective thread. It's aim isn't to create a gender war, but to bring to realization the ills going on in our society, it causes which if properly discussed may result into coming up with solutions to curb these ills.

Here is a summary of the whole thread in a question: Why is it difficult for men to respect women's choices?

takimsipho:
Abeg..did the op who started the thread make it about men not respecting women's choices. She made a poor attempt to ridicule men as losers who can't meet up to women's standards . And to your question, men in previous generations lived on close knit societies where social norms and values were held in highest esteem. In this generation, except insecure men, men don't care what women do with their lives and bodies. Lol the sexual liberation of women is very sweet, you don't need to marry anybody to get some action these days. The only time it's an issue is when you love the girl or she is a family member. If women want to do silly things in the name of freedom or expressing themselves, no p. And I don't seek validation, rather I can't stand unnecessary bashing online.

SenecaTheYonger:
...

Hyerin:
Women are evolving while men are regressing. There will eventually be a mating crisis

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/growing-trend-fewer-men-in-college-leading-to-mating-crisis-2021-9%3famp

Men have refused to step up and be better. They think all that's needed of them is to make money and women will automatically fawn over them. False. Not in this modern age were women work and earn. Men still want traditional roles but aren't willing to play that part (paying all the bills, renovating the house, fixing the sink etc. Traditional masculine activities) and honestly, it's not even appealing to women anymore (the educated ones) because we still take the bulk of responsibility for the home and child rearing, in addition to working. Society doesn't give women credit for being workhorses and more women are seeing marriage for the scam that it is. Some are even choosing to opt out of it and children. And women do not mind being single either. So those fears of loneliness men use as a shaming tactic has no basis in reality

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-single/201810/why-so-many-women-are-perfectly-happy-stay-single%3famp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert

And with the rise of inceldom, red pill, MRA etc more women would gladly be single than settle. Their rhetoric is harmful and dangerous

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334155525_Exploring_Misogyny_across_the_Manosphere_in_Reddit

OLDESTWARRIBOY:


Please, do you live in Nigeria or Canada?? Beacuse what you wrote there does not reflect anywhere in my country.

Hyerin:

OLDESTWARRIBOY:

See plenty Grammer!! Sister calm down o..


It's the same thing I'm doing, except reverse by counteracting these peddled lies with correct information
You can admit most of what the guys said are close to Nigerian mentality/culture whatever the correct word is but the fairytale you wrote before is very far from us and may still be for the next 50 years.


More women are seeing marriage for the scam that it is.
you fuuuqing with me right?? in Nigeria today 95% of the girls wants to get married, even the girls at the brothel will go back to their various states and marry. Which women are seeing marriage as a scam?? Scam where? most marriages that has changed the life of girls and their families in Nigeria financially and our society respect married woman more. Nothing like Scam for women. Maybe Men



Some are even choosing to opt out of it and children.
Where in Nigeria?? Baby mamas that are frown upon and they called all sorts of names. even by fellow women. Chioma and etc did it beacuse of the cash/fame that comes with it which is made possible by a you guess it Man

Men have refused to step up and be better
Say What?? Step up for what. Explain more this beacuse it could mean many things before I make a statement.

And check my last comment too and say something.

Firefoxy:
Recently, you notice a lot of single guys making threads to give relationship advice to girls and telling them how to act in relationships. Hardly would you see a girl make a thread to ask for a lover, or tell men how to act in relationships.

We’ve come to the times where more and more men are growing desperate as they do not meet the standards of women. Sometimes they project their insecurities on women by saying you’d be alone forever, other times they try to convince you that you need to get married as soon as possible, even though you have no interest in it. You’re supposed to believe that you need them more, that way you become desperate too and stoop low to accept these low quality men.

Although they first convince themselves that they have to become a certain type of man, only then will women chase them. But it never works. Because they take advice from and listen to other desperate and bitter men, instead of women.

Research has shown that as time goes by, more men will be involuntary single.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim

They become incels and they pose a great danger to women. Because the world isn’t like it used to be, and more women are losing interest. They feel entitled to a life partner and when they can’t get that, desperation turns to hate. From belittling women on the internet, to committing crimes like rape and femicide. I’m afraid the time is here.


Good afternoon.

Hyerin:


There was a caveat and to quote myself:

"Certain truths will still apply if the populace wasn't as poor, uneducated and largely conservative"

Nigeria is still largely conservative. Culture permeates almost every aspect of our lives. Social forces influenced by patriarchial customs and norms are dominant. The ways in which this can be lessened is through education. When more people are properly educated, there will be alot of doing away with certain traditions but the widespread poverty is a big hurdle. You see, poverty, illiteracy and traditional culture go hand in hand. It's one of the reasons why Africa and some parts in Middle East, Asia and Latin America are underdeveloped. There's also socialization. Women are socialized to view marriage as the acme of existence. This is not unique to Nigeria alone but all over the world. Some women in the West are opting out of marriage and children all together because it's not what it is cracked out to be. There's research and studies that proves women have more to lose because they (Women) take on the bulk of child rearing and household duties, in addition to working full time. Thats alot of responsibility and some have decided it's not even worth venturing into. Now, those women are free to exercise their rights without much hassle unlike in Nigeria were the stigmatisation is great and due to the prevailing culture it is viewed as unthinkable. Do you catch my drift now? It's a whole lot of delving into because multi-faceted.

Besides, the articles I posted never mentioned Nigerian women but nevertheless this circles back to the above caveat and everything I've written thus far. To oversimplify my point:

The social forces and culture in Nigeria is stronger than that of the west. With culture, comes certain expectations of women due to tradition and because this is pervasive, Nigerian women have a narrow path in their lives i.e marriage and children. However, when this is lessened and more women get educated, they will be a "going against the grain".

Men have refused to step up and be better means exactly what the literal statement is. You still think money is everything. You can be absolutely devoid of any good character but once you have money, then you're now a "high value man" and the ladies will flock, isn't that so?

Well this is false.

Money sure can attract a women but it can't keep her if you're a shitty person. If money was the key to successful relationships then rich men won't be getting divorced left, right & centre. Nothing of good character/personality is emphasized for men. It's all just money and y'all run with it. To be better means to be a good person, which honestly, is the bare minimum.

I feel like all what I just typed out is common anense but you redpillers are so lacking in critical thinking and analysis. It's very irritating and none of y'all are worth the replies tbh.

OLDESTWARRIBOY:


Please, do you live in Nigeria or Canada?? Beacuse what you wrote there does not reflect anywhere in my country.

UncleJudax:

no mind all these third world country wanna be feminists. They are online, offline and everywhere begging for money and slutting...by codedly forming to be chef, fashion designer, masseuse etc

That's what it is...I don't want to even go that far!!

Don't mind her, She is living in fantasy land compiling western data for me. Where as happenings in Nigeria is the direct opposite.

Magnoliaa:


[s]There's a difference between being involuntarily single and being intentionally single?

Mtcheeewww. E be like say this one never hear of family planning and contraceptives.

All these teenage pregnancies and associated 'menace' is only an issue in countries where there is a general aversion to sex education.

Do I even need to tell you that the abortion rate is low, very low in countries where they are legalised?

So, no. Sexually aware/educated women = sexually responsible women

Educated women = awareness and sound decisions when it comes to marriage and number of kids to have.

All those loneliness talks are just sham. And you can easily sell it to the women here because they don't know better.

The woke Nordic countries don't seem as degenerated as your beloved patriarchal and religious and values-filled Africa.

No woman's life will be destroyed because she's not hinged to a man in any way - whether through kids, marriage or a family.

Men are going their own way, yet they are the one shooting up women and stalking and raping them because of sexual rejection and rejection to relationships. For all of the bitterness y'all claim feminists have, how many of us are going out to shoot men because we can't find a date?

So, no. The lack of suitable partners for marriage will not both affect us, or affect us the same way and our responses to such will definitely not be the same.

Even here on Nairaland, call it pretentiousness, but you'll never know if some lady likes a guy, even back when the 'toasting threads' were a thing, you'll find women declaring their feelings for a guy. Let it be a man that likes a girl, he'll troll her to heaven and hell and back, shame the living daylight out of her and do all manners of despicable thing to her because he wants her attention.

The men that ask women out normally are the outliers. The women that shoot up men because of rejection are also outliers. So it is a big fat lie when y'all come up with the 'women don't take rejection well' line. No matter how hurt or pained she is, a rejected lady is hardly thinking of ways to meet a man on the road and rape him in revenge.

And just in case my point isn't clear up to this point: I'm saying the undesirability of men will not affect women (equally) provided the above conditions are met. That is basically all round education for women- sexually, financially, emotionally, mentally...etc.[/s]

Hyerin:
Women are evolving while men are regressing. There will eventually be a mating crisis

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/growing-trend-fewer-men-in-college-leading-to-mating-crisis-2021-9%3famp

Men have refused to step up and be better. They think all that's needed of them is to make money and women will automatically fawn over them. False. Not in this modern age were women work and earn. Men still want traditional roles but aren't willing to play that part (paying all the bills, renovating the house, fixing the sink etc. Traditional masculine activities) and honestly, it's not even appealing to women anymore (the educated ones) because we still take the bulk of responsibility for the home and child rearing, in addition to working. Society doesn't give women credit for being workhorses and more women are seeing marriage for the scam that it is. Some are even choosing to opt out of it and children. And women do not mind being single either. So those fears of loneliness men use as a shaming tactic has no basis in reality

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/living-single/201810/why-so-many-women-are-perfectly-happy-stay-single%3famp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert

And with the rise of inceldom, red pill, MRA etc more women would gladly be single than settle. Their rhetoric is harmful and dangerous

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334155525_Exploring_Misogyny_across_the_Manosphere_in_Reddit