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A case for the Edo/Idu people as the Biblical Edomites
Sometime during the afternoon of September 21, 2011 I was contemplating about the connection, if any between the biblical Edomites and the Edo/Idu people of Nigeria. Then I received the answer – the red colour.
Many people have wondered what happened to the Biblical Edomites after Hell enist ( Amorite /Greco-Roman/West) conquest.

Some have assumed that Satan’s synagogue who are the Jews are the Edomites, some have argued instead for the Caucasians/Amorites. Such assumptions are misleading as the implication is that Isaac ( Ajaka ) and Rebecca (Abẹkẹ?) had as ibeji ( Aku for twins) a black man (Aku; re-lexified to Jacob) and an Amorite/Caucasian (Esau). Another proof that the Edomites are not Amorites is the biblical prophecy of Ezekiel 25 where it is mentioned that the people of the east who are the Amorites that took over Mesopotamia would invade the lands of the nations of the Levant, of which Edom is one, and displace the indigenous inhabitants.

In order to identify the extant descendants of Esau it is best to consider cultural patterns associated with the eponymous ancestor and his descendants as recorded in the bible. The RED colour stands out as the most useful marker:
When he was born “he came out red” (Genesis 25:25) – most likely he had a reddish-brown skin tone.
He was also called Edom because of a red stew which, according to Genesis 25:30, he liked to consume, perhaps his favourite. Aku was aware of this trait (Genesis 25:29-30) and perhaps used it to his advantage in getting the birth right.

The nation that came out of him was known to the Greeks as Idumea or red people.
Scholars have noted that Edom territory or Idumea is marked by the presence of reddish sandstone. Perhaps Esau (aka Edom) settled in that territory because of his innate attraction to the red colour (Genesis 36: 6-.
In Isaiah 63:1-3 the Saviour who is Eshumare ( Èshú ), is described as dressed like an Edomite after dealing with the Edomites because his white garment became dyed with blood which is of red colour.

Remarkably, the Edo people and their Edoid/Igboid descendants in southern Nigeria also share this peculiar attraction for the red color. They are the people of the Benin Kingdom located just east and south-east of the Aku (common name for the chosen heirs of Oduduwa; a.k.a ọmọ Oodua or offspring of Oodua/Oduduwa) territory with whom common history and traditions is a known fact.
They wear red attires with lots of red beads as seen in the pictures from
http://www.nairaland.com and video below.
This has been their distinctive marker amongst Nigerian peoples.

The ancient name of Edo is Idu, the name of their progenitor is Idu, and her people bear names with Idu as prefix or just Idu.
In Nigeria, their homeland is the region of highest cultivation of the oil palm (Elaeis guineensis) from which the reddish-orange palm oil is derived; they, along with the
Igbo who appropriated their culture and were ejected from the Edo kingdom in 1748, dominate the palm oil market as they are the largest wholesalers and retailers.

A lot of violent crimes including cult activities take place in their homeland with the attendant bloodletting.
They have always sought to annex the territory of the ọmọ Oodua and claim to be their seniors.

They were sacked by the same set of Amorites , that is, British/Babylonians, a repeat of history.
However, the Edo people seem not to know their pre-16 or 900 CE history which may be due to lack of publicly available written records upon migration into West Africa from the Levant, just like the Aku people, and/or a deliberate attempt at dissociation from the Esau and related prophecies.

Other similarities unrelated to the red colour include:
Edo is situated southeast of Aku territory, just as the biblical Edom
According to Amos 9:12, ọmọ Oodua would possess the remnant of Edom at the end of the 4th age; this re-occurred during the present 6th age from the 12 century CE when Ọranmiyan who is Aku and the orisha of the irunmọlẹ called Osoosi, an Aku prince, ambassador and later king, became ruler of the Edo people upon their request and approval by Ifa; he established his son from an Edo princess as the Oba (king) of Edo, thus re-establishing the Oba dynasty, and some Edo peoples like the Esan, Isoko, Urhobo etc later emigrated from Edo.

In the Book of Jasher is the narrative of how Esau was beheaded near the tomb of Aku (Jacob) who is Ọranyan/Ọranmiyan (Orion) and his head remained with Aku’s children while the Edomites ran away with the headless body of their ancestor. Fast-forward to the 12 century CE when Ọranmiyan (same person; atunwa/reincarnate) was sent to become Oba of Edo and establish a dynasty. Whenever an Oba (Oranmiyan’s descendant) slept his head was taken to a site in Ile-Ifẹ (spiritual home of the Aku; corresponding to Jerusalem) called
Ọrun Ọba Ado ( resting place of Edo kings).
Just as Esau and the Biblical Edomites were associated with dubiousness and ancient envy against the Aku, the Edo have not stopped fabricating tales to distort history and justify their crave for seniority.

Ajaka (re-lexified to Isaac) told Esau that he would live by the sword (Genesis 27:40). The royal symbols of authority in Edo are the ceremonial swords, and the Isoko and Igbo threaten a lot with their cutlasses and machetes.

Ajaka had two sons, Ọranmiyan (Jacob) and Ado (Edo/Edom) who became Alado (king) of Ado (Aku for Edo). Ọranmiyan, though the younger, inherited the land while the Ado/Edo was sent away (Genesis 36:6-7). Isẹdalẹ, the other name for Ado/Edo, is a compound name with the main part Isẹas the actual pronunciation of Esau .

A crude translation of Isẹdalẹ could be ‘the first to arrive on earth’ which indicates that he was the first of the twins to be delivered.
The do in Ado/Edo is translated as copulation or the satisfaction of sexual desires or reward-seeking behavior, and Ado/Edo refers to a person of lewd character. It turns out that such propensities are exhibited by do paminergic individuals of which associated behaviors include preference for instant gratification. Unsurprisingly, the people of Edo, including other former Edo peoples like the Etsako, Isoko and Urhobo, are known for their peculiarly high promiscuity and prostitution used for the acquisition of material rewards, and their women are of extremely pretty countenance. Italy has been a notorious destination for many Edo girls and women to engage in prostitution, both voluntarily and otherwise.

Non-Edo men have testified of the propensity of these females to give in to the satisfaction of sexual desires, especially since expatriates moved to the Niger Delta area and the associated prospects of acquiring oil dollars. The impact on the Edoid peoples nonetheless has been a consistently high level of violence as warned in Leviticus 19:29. There are lots of children without true identities, who have not known their fathers, and who are half-castes; children of iniquity. Violent crimes including abductions frequently occur and are not limited to politics. Youths, especially of higher education institutions, and elders are members of violent cult groups.

Thankfully, Eshumare has been showing them
mercy (cf. Numbers 24; Isaiah 11:14; Amos
The name Edom is false as it is actually Edo, and does not immediately translate to red as the translation in the bible is one of the many such mischievous and/or delusional re-lexifications by the Amorites (Gentiles/oyinbo) of the bible. This is proof that the use of the delusional translation of the name Edom based on its -d-m consonants to translate the biblical Adam is fictitious (Amorite academic fallacy and his-story – white supremacists’ distorted accounts of times gone by) as the Adamọ/Adimu is the actual name and unlike Edo it possesses an -m- consonant. Edo
and Adam does not mean red but the red colour is associated globally with lust and violence (blood-letting). “Edo” probably means “the dopaminergic/lewd/carnal one”.

The association of violence and reward-seeking behavior with Ado/ Edo is seen in the account of Genesis 25:29-34 when Isẹ went hunting and returned home quite famished, but Ọranmiyan, taking advantage of the situation after perhaps having observed over time his brother’s high dopamine activity, gave him (Isẹ) some red stew in exchange for his (Isẹ’s) birth right ( Genesis 25:29-34). The aftermath of this episode was that Isẹ was thereafter called Edo, perhaps by his parents who had probably been noticing the same high dopamine activity.

Many people around the world seek to discover their talents, their niches. That of the Edo is quite simple to identify as it is that peculiar drive which so far has been channeled towards lewdness, as seen in the number of Edo persons trafficked continually to Europe for prostitution, the highest in Nigeria. Perhaps they can effectively tackle this by coming together to find their niche where this drive can be positively channeled for the benefit of their society. It could have been such that brought fame and splendour to the former Benin kingdom from the 14th to 18th century CE.

COURTESY; FEYISETAN OPEYEMI – aka ORISHA AGANJU

I have seen it your are really obsessed with the Edos!
After when they start raining abuses on you ...u will start crying foul.
Why dont you just let this people be, Must we yorubas be the first to find trouble?
You are clearly disoriented and lack direction..... Just look at the trash u posted up.

I am Yoruba and one thing i know and admire about the Edos is thier zeal and drive to preserve thier culture and history of many centuries ..

The time you spend daily wanking n self juicing untop Edo matter shud be used on researching more about yoruba history or dont we yorubas av a rich history too?.... The benins are taught thier history from birth and do not need a stranger n certainly not a yoruba man to tell dem so.....Disist from Edo matter and stop this obssesion!!

Oduduwaa:
I have seen it your are really obsessed with the Edos!
After when they start raining abuses on you ...u will start crying foul.
Why dont you just let this people be, Must we yorubas be the first to find trouble?
You are clearly disoriented and lack direction..... Just look at the trash u posted up.

I am Yoruba and one thing i know and admire about the Edos is their zeal and drive to preserve their culture and history of many centuries ..

The time you spend daily wanking n self juicing untop Edo matter shud be used on researching more about yoruba history or dont we yorubas av a rich history too?.... The benins are taught thier history from birth and do not need a stranger n certainly not a yoruba man to tell dem so.....Disist from Edo matter and stop this obssesion!!

You See my problem with some Yoruba is that they always want to shy away from the truth when it kept coming at you. And later in life, we keep crying foul play! foul play! foul play! There is something you failed to see and it is the future far away from this generation. That write up wasn't MINE but someone's.

And this is a man who is well known outside the shore of Nigeria. Some people live in Nigeria while many live outside Nigeria, especially non Nigerians alike whom probably had done DNA test and having Nigeria's Origin. And they pry on sites likes this and whatever you dish out that stand contrary to what they have done self research or through their mentors or Babalawos, this forum become boring and FALSE.

This has nothing to do with EDO only because I even have EDOS as cousins from maternal lineage.....NO BAD BLOOD but write the way I have seen it and from other writers perspective

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2srartkYEw

This write up reeks of delusion and obviously coming from a brain with compound damage.

saddler:
This write up reeks of delusion and obviously coming from a brain with compound damage.

The Kings of Edom are very real and they are more than just Benin they include some Islamic kingdoms as well. Ottoman is Teman taken from the list of Edomite Kings surnames. These people suppress their identities because of what the Bible says about them is not good.

Edom is Black

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoYwzWJU6A0

Lmao
All this semitic obsession

It’s just madness

macof:
Lmao
All this semitic obsession

It’s just madness

Yet what if it's true you would still fall out laughing?

HarshBitterTrut:


Yet what if it's true you would still fall out laughing?

“What if” you say right? Meaning you have no basis for this reason and it is only a self induced belief
If it had any shred of truth you would have provided a wealth of evidence by now

macof:


“What if” you say right? Meaning you have no basis for this reason and it is only a self induced belief
If it had any shred of truth you would have provided a wealth of evidence by now

Why bother yourself over what you have no belief in it ? Afterall, you claimed Yoruba migrated from landlock Niger-Benue confluence without any proof.

Infact Ileife oral account and Ifa's stated account assert categorically that part of her history has been lost . And part of people's history is often lost,then what experts do is to see every possible postulations that can connect through oral history which is subjective.

It's through this oral histories that such information got can be used with other primary, aswell as with secondary sources to gain more knowledge about the people's possible place of origin.

Therefore your view is highly watery and not needed in this thread except you have things to share to that effect.Beside, you are an hypocrite because the same you was struggling to understand the original or correct pronunciation of Yorubas. While you dug deep to understand the trilateral root word "YRB."Yet you couldnt solve the meaning original word usage.

Anyway, Èlédùmárè will help you.

macof:


“What if” you say right? Meaning you have no basis for this reason and it is only a self induced belief
If it had any shred of truth you would have provided a wealth of evidence by now

I'm having a hard time understanding your objections. The truth is here.

HarshBitterTrut:



I'm having a hard time understanding your objections. The truth is here.

Truths are not what ifs
You yourself have subliminally exposed how fickle and based on belief not facts all this nonsense is by that statement
And of course, in all this you have no evidence

It’s more akin to madness really

Olu317:
Why bother yourself over what you have no belief in it ? Afterall, you claimed Yoruba migrated from landlock Niger-Benue confluence without any proof.

Infact Ileife oral account and Ifa's stated account assert categorically that part of her history has been lost . And part of people's history is often lost,then what experts do is to see every possible postulations that can connect through oral history which is subjective.

It's through this oral histories that such information got can be used with other primary, aswell as with secondary sources to gain more knowledge about the people's possible place of origin.

Therefore your view is highly watery and not needed in this thread except you have things to share to that effect.Beside, you are an hypocrite because the same you was struggling to understand the original or correct pronunciation of Yorubas. While you dug deep to understand the trilateral root word "YRB."Yet you couldnt solve the meaning original word usage.

Anyway, Èlédùmárè will help you.

Werey
More madness

macof:


Truths are not what ifs
You yourself have subliminally exposed how fickle and based on belief not facts all this nonsense is by that statement
And of course, in all this you have no evidence

It’s more akin to madness really

Sounds personal. I'm not getting ypur stake in this. May I ask politely, were you somehow offended personally by this post? You seem quite bothered.

macof:


Werey
More madness

Mmultifaceted liar
Exit this thread. Alàìnirónu ẹdà. Copy and paste liar without focus

Olu317:
Mmultifaceted liar
Exit this thread. Alàìnirónu ẹdà. Copy and paste liar without focus

Why not come with a similar write up about the Yorubas and their obsession with Skull mining and international fraud which your tribe is known for worldwide?

How some of you toil so hard digging up and promoting untruths and anything that ridicules another tribe except yours.

HarshBitterTrut:



Sounds personal. I'm not getting ypur stake in this. May I ask politely, were you somehow offended personally by this post? You seem quite bothered.

Lol my stake in this? Are you by any chance asking me not to comment unless I agree with your nonsense?
Funny bunch what concerns stakes with a simple correction

macof:

Lol my stake in this? Are you by any chance asking me not to comment unless I agree with your nonsense?
Funny bunch what concerns stakes with a simple correction

What exactly is the simple correction that you would like?

HarshBitterTrut:



What exactly is the simple correction that you would like?

That the video you shared is lazy and ignorant.
1. Non of the ethnic groups in Nigeria are semitic. The Yoruba, Edo, Igbo, Idoma, igala mentioned in your video are a Niger-congo people not a semitic people
2. "Hamitic" is not a real racial category and cannot be remotely stretched to imply such. "Hamito-Semitic" is an obsolete term used to refer to what we now call the "afro-asiatic language group". "semitic" being the only branch found outside Africa in Western Asia
3. Edo people of Benin city are not Edomites. There is no linguistic, historical, genetic or cultural evidence to suggest so. This claim is solely based on the names "idoma" and "Edo" looking like the name "Edom"

All this is based on an unhealthy obsession with where your religions come from. It is inferiority complex

macof:
That the video you shared is lazy and ignorant.
1. Non of the ethnic groups in Nigeria are semitic. The Yoruba, Edo, Igbo, Idoma, igala mentioned in your video are a Niger-congo people not a semitic people
2. "Hamitic" is not a real racial category and cannot be remotely stretched to imply such. "Hamito-Semitic" is an obsolete term used to refer to what we now call the "afro-asiatic language group". "semitic" being the only branch found outside Africa in Western Asia
3. Edo people of Benin city are not Edomites. There is no linguistic, historical, genetic or cultural evidence to suggest so. This claim is solely based on the names "idoma" and "Edo" looking like the name "Edom"

All this is based on an unhealthy obsession with where your religions come from. It is inferiority complex

There are two documentaries showing the link between Edo and Edom.

The first thing is to consider is their idolatrous religion which contains fertility sex practices, idol worship, fetishes, human and animal sacrifices.

Then you must consider all people originate from Asia and many went into Africa. All people were originally of dark hue until the curse of Canaanite brought about albinos known as leprosy. Losing melanin is a serious issue in a tropical zone and it occurs mostly in Africa. Only the descendants of Canaanites would carry such curse. Albinoism doesn't occur at all among Black Americans. If it does that family has Hamite genetics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoYwzWJU6A0

HarshBitterTrut:



There are two documentaries showing the link between Edo and Edom.

The first thing is to consider is their idolatrous religion which contains fertility sex practices, idol worship, fetishes, human and animal sacrifices.

Then you must consider all people originate from Asia and many went into Africa. All people were originally of dark hue until the curse of Canaanite brought about albinos known as leprosy. Losing melanin is a serious issue in a tropical zone and it occurs mostly in Africa. Only the descendants of Canaanites would carry such curse. Albinoism doesn't occur at all among Black Americans. If it does that family has Hamite genetics.

What evidence was provided by these two documentaries?

first of all, i take objection to calling any religion idolatrous. it is an intentional attempt to insult and discredit the religion for simply being a different religion and nothing more. Because in truth all religions use idols and contain fetishes, but none actually worship idols. There is a difference between "use" and "worship"

but what has this got to do with Edo and Idoma people being Edomites? Why not chinesse or cheerokee or aztec?

secondly, all people do not originate from Asia. There is no basis for this. Please provide evidence for this claim here

what does albinism have to do with Edo and Idoma people being Edomites? Edomites are not even "Hamitic" according to the obsolete categorisation you keep using as reference.
Are you aware the "hamitic theory" was anti-african racism and has been debunked? why are you still propagating something that human knowledge has grown passed?

macof:

What evidence was provided by these two documentaries?

first of all, i take objection to calling any religion idolatrous. it is an intentional attempt to insult and discredit the religion for simply being a different religion and nothing more. Because in truth all religions use idols and contain fetishes, but none actually worship idols. There is a difference between "use" and "worship"

but what has this got to do with Edo and Idoma people being Edomites? Why not chinesse or cheerokee or aztec?

secondly, all people do not originate from Asia. There is no basis for this. Please provide evidence for this claim here

what does albinism have to do with Edo and Idoma people being Edomites? Edomites are not even "Hamitic" according to the obsolete categorisation you keep using as reference.
Are you aware the "hamitic theory" was anti-african racism and has been debunked? why are you still propagating something that human knowledge has grown passed?

Benin Kingdom is an idolatrous Empire and that is no insult. Catholicism is an idolatrous religion and Rome an idolatrous Empire. Benin are famous for their carved idols which is considered some of the world's most exquisite artworks of brass and copper. Yet those carvings are depictions of gods and goddesses worshipped in their traditions. Some go around this definition by saying it's ancestral reverence yet the ancestors have been made into deities. If it's an image of a deity it is an idol. And not all religions have idols. The Torah written by Black Jews forbid idols and the Bible and Quran also forbids idols.

There is a dispute not spoken here. There is no deity besides the Creator and all other deities were created by man. This is the basis of Jewish faith which was the faith of Abraham. And it was never forced upon polytheists quite the contrary Abraham in Asia was forced to flee his home because of polytheists I.e idol worshippers.

Africa is not the origin of man. And the primate Lucy is not man's ancestor. We did not evolve from animal but we were created separate. Africa rooted in animal worship supports this Whiteman unscientific theory that man evolves from Apes just to feel superior as the land of origins.

HarshBitterTrut:



Benin Kingdom is an idolatrous Empire and that is no insult. Catholicism is an idolatrous religion and Rome an idolatrous Empire. Benin are famous for their carved idols which is considered some of the world's most exquisite artworks of brass and copper. Yet those carvings are depictions of gods and goddesses worshipped in their traditions. Some go around this definition by saying it's ancestral reverence yet the ancestors have been made into deities. If it's an image of a deity it is an idol. And not all religions have idols. The Torah written by Black Jews forbid idols and the Bible and Quran also forbids idols.

There is a dispute not spoken here. There is no deity besides the Creator and all other deities were created by man. This is the basis of Jewish faith which was the faith of Abraham. And it was never forced upon polytheists quite the contrary Abraham in Asia was forced to flee his home because of polytheists I.e idol worshippers.

Africa is not the origin of man. And the primate Lucy is not man's ancestor. We did not evolve from animal but we were created separate. Africa rooted in animal worship supports this Whiteman unscientific theory that man evolves from Apes just to feel superior as the land of origins.

i have gone indepth on my thoughts about the issue of "idolatry" here
https://www.nairaland.com/6806804/idol-worshipping-isese-propaganda

@bold so where is the origin of man? and please provide evidence. And how does the origin of man have to do with Edo and Idoma people being Edoimites...please what is the chronological correlation?

macof:

i have gone indepth on my thoughts about the issue of "idolatry" here
https://www.nairaland.com/6806804/idol-worshipping-isese-propaganda

@bold so where is the origin of man? and please provide evidence. And how does the origin of man have to do with Edo and Idoma people being Edoimites...please what is the chronological correlation?

What is your father's ethnic group?

HarshBitterTrut:



What is your father's ethnic group?

How would the answer to this question help you answer my own questions?

macof:


How would the answer to this question help you answer my own questions?

Because I personally desire to know where you are coming from.

HarshBitterTrut:
personal
adjective
US /ˈpɝː.sən.əl/ UK /ˈpɜː.sən.əl/


relating or belonging to a single or particular person rather than to a group or an organization:

It's always personal. The facts are always influenced by our own personal perception.

HarshBitterTrut:



Because I personally desire to know where you are coming from.

I take it you can’t answer any of the questions posed to you so you need to stall and change the topic?

macof:

I take it you can’t answer any of the questions posed to you so you need to stall and change the topic?

I am son of Jerry Bub De France my tribe are the Franks.

Who are you?