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Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Ogbuefi2020: 6:31pm On Nov 04, 2021
SonofDevil:
it doesn't change the fact that you Igbos play clannish politics unlike north.
Thats why people like ugwuanyi,ikpeazu re winning second term.
Majority of non- performing govs in north whether APC or pdp didn't return in 2019
you sound so childish
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by JaroMan: 6:35pm On Nov 04, 2021
SonofDevil:
pdp was only controlling south east and south south prior 2015 election.

Northern PDP caucus have already collapsed their political structure into APC merger.

In 2023 pdp is not getting APC northern caucus political structure so they can stop dreaming
You're the chairman of northern PDP caucus? You think I'm a neophyte that run permutations and combinations on things that are glaring? I don't waste my time of beer parlor gossip.
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Ogbuefi2020: 6:36pm On Nov 04, 2021
SonofDevil:
Drunk clown

Kano urban areas alone covers 251km unlike aba total size of 72km
i meant onitsha not aba , onitsha urban area is only second to lagos , kano huge population is rural
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by san316(m): 6:55pm On Nov 04, 2021
We read this kind of analysis prior to 2015 and 2019, but the rest they say is history.

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Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by SonofDevil: 7:13pm On Nov 04, 2021
JaroMan:

You're the chairman of northern PDP caucus? You think I'm a neophyte that run permutations and combinations on things that are glaring? I don't waste my time of beer parlor gossip.
lame .
If you check APC acceptance in national and local politics with your church mind you will discover APC is more of a northern party. It has been rejected by SS/SE in two occasions(2015/2019) in both national and local politics.
A northern PDP candidate cant change these overnight.

Its only APC that can defeat APC in 2023 PDP dont stand a chance

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Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Ogbuefi2020: 7:16pm On Nov 04, 2021
san316:
We read this kind of analysis prior to 2015 and 2019, but the rest they say is history.
pdp said the same thing in 2003, 2007 and 2011
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by SonofDevil: 7:16pm On Nov 04, 2021
Ogbuefi2020:

i meant onitsha not aba , onitsha urban area is only second to lagos , kano huge population is rural
ipob bureau of statistics.

Onitsha is 52km while kano urban alone area is 251km.

Kano city in total is 499km

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Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Ogbuefi2020: 7:22pm On Nov 04, 2021
SonofDevil:
ipob bureau of statistics.

Onitsha is 52km while kano urban alone area is 251km.

Kano city in total is 499km
urban area is different from ,city you are not familiar with the ,east please check demographia
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Ogbuefi2020: 7:25pm On Nov 04, 2021
SonofDevil:
ipob bureau of statistics.

Onitsha is 52km while kano urban alone area is 251km.

Kano city in total is 499km
according to demographia 2021 report onitsha urban is 6.9million while kano urban is 4.6,million , note that population matters more than land mass as one plot in ontsha contain 10flats at least

Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by SonofDevil: 7:28pm On Nov 04, 2021
Ogbuefi2020:

according to demographia 2021 report onitsha urban is 6.9million while kano urban is 4.6,million , note that population matters more than land mass as one plot in ontsha contain 10flats
where is the link to your source ipob bureau of statsitics.
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Ogbuefi2020: 7:32pm On Nov 04, 2021
SonofDevil:
where is the link to your source ipob bureau of statsitics.

https://www.nairaland.com/6602365/nigerias-largest-built-up-urban-areas
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by SonofDevil: 7:33pm On Nov 04, 2021
Ogbuefi2020:

urban area is different from ,city you are not familiar with the ,east please check demographia
you re confused. Urban area is a developed part of a city.

Kano city total landmass is 499km
Aba city total landmass is 72km
Onitsha city is 52km

If you add together the whole urbanised part of aba and onitsha together it is not up to half of kano urban areas.
Kano urban areas covers 251km out of 499km

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Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by SonofDevil: 7:41pm On Nov 04, 2021
Ogbuefi2020:

https://www.nairaland.com/6602365/nigerias-largest-built-up-urban-areas
the populations is for only urbanized area it doesnt mean aba or onitsha is more populated than kano city.
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Penguin2: 7:51pm On Nov 04, 2021
Ogbuefi2020:
Worse case scenerio SE igbos will concecede vp ticket to a SS igbo , yorubas will mock SE but we wont care , akeredulu attempt to use se/ss for tinubu has been destroyed . What SE needs to flourish is a just and fair government

Exactly my point.

We don’t mind voting A northerner with someone from Southsouth as vp as long as they would ensure that Ndigbo will no longer be an endangered specie in Nigeria.

But zombies think we don’t see through their scheming.
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Penguin2: 7:58pm On Nov 04, 2021
SonofDevil:
pa shukudi that's not how it works.
Political structure is what delivers for party . popularity of candidate is just added bonus.

If yardua and gej didn't inherit a good political structure from obj they wouldn't have beaten Buhari in 2007 and 2011.

Gej lost pdp north caucus politcal structure thats why he lost.

PDP is yet to recover the political structure till date

On what structure did Olusegun Mimiko depend on to win Ondo under Labour Party(LP) in 2007?

On what structure did Governor Abdulrazaq of Kwara depend on to win Kwara in 2019 and defeat the Saraki dynasty; a well known structure?

On what structure did Obaseki depend on to win re-election in Edo when almost every political heavyweight in the state was in APC?

Sometimes you reason like a child. Because you keep forgetting the people factor in all these.

No politician will lead any electorate by the hand on the day of election.
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by CharleyBright(m): 8:07pm On Nov 04, 2021
seunmsg:
Igbo man, be rest assured that nobody will give SE the APC ticket. Go to PDP and make your demand, that is where you sowed your votes so it shouldn't be too difficult to reap the presidential ticket of the party. APC will win the next presidential election irrespective of where the party candidate comes from. SE is inconsequential in determining who becomes the president so nobody gives a fvck about your threat. You don't have the votes to stop APC.

Uncle calm down.
It seems you don't totally understand the Dynamics of Nigerian Politics and the quagmire APC is in.
Firstly, Bola Tinubu is a Joker to think he can ever be Nigerian President. He is a Political Dullard if he thinks the North will hand over power to him.
A Muslim- Muslim ticket or Christian- Christian ticket can never work in Nigeria.
And incidentally, if Power goes to the South, the North must ensure it is a Muslim core North VP.

A Bola Tinubu Presidential ticket automatically means a Southwest Muslim President and a North Central or North- East Christian Vice President.
And the Northern Muslim power Bloc can never allow that and be scheme out of Political Power.
That Political Dynamics don't favor them and that will never happen.
That was the same Political Dynamics that played out when Abiola and Kingibe emerged as President and VP - bringing a Muslim- Muslim ticket. We know how it ended.

From the foregoing, ApC is in deep shit with the choice they would make.
Tinubu is dead on arrival. Another Northern Presidential candidate will be shooting themselves on the leg.
Automatically, APC must shift power to the South. And the only viable joker the APC can play to have a strong hold on power is to put Osibanjo as Presidential candidate and get a Muslim core north candidate for VP.
With Osibanjo, maybe some fence sitters might want to consider voting APC.

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Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Penguin2: 8:08pm On Nov 04, 2021
SonofDevil:
it doesn't change the fact that you Igbos play clannish politics unlike north.
Thats why people like ugwuanyi,ikpeazu re winning second term.
Majority of non- performing govs in north whether APC or pdp didn't return in 2019

So what you are telling us is that your Southwest candidate will be depending on the benevolence of northern voters to win, right? And if in 2023 the north decides to be clannish and support one of their own then it’s game over for Yoruba candidate.

Or is there anywhere else you would expecting miracle from?
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by SonofDevil: 8:08pm On Nov 04, 2021
Penguin2:


On what structure did Olusegun Mimiko depend on to win Ondo under Labour Party(LP) in 2007?

On what structure did Governor Abdulrazaq of Kwara depend on to win Kwara in 2019 and defeat the Saraki dynasty; a well known structure?

On what structure did Obaseki depend on to win re-election in Edo when almost every political heavyweight in the state was in APC?

Sometimes you reason like a child. Because you keep forgetting the people factor in all these.

No politician will lead any electorate by the hand on the day of election.


Mimiko had a good political structure and had alliance with tinubu political structure in ondo 2007.

Abdulrazaq had acn,cpc,and pdp political structure. Immediately saraki defected to pdp, pdp led by their chairman collaspe thier structure to Apc.


Obaseki used both Apc (defector) and PDP political structure in Edo to win.

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Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by SonofDevil: 8:09pm On Nov 04, 2021
Penguin2:


So what you are telling us is that your Southwest candidate will be depending on the benevolence of northern voters to win, right? And if in 2023 the north decides to be clannish and support one of their own then it’s game over for Yoruba candidate.

Or is there anywhere else you would expecting miracle from?
north re not clannish with politcs.
While abiola a southerner was beating tofa in North
Clannish igbos voted tofa a northerner ahead of abiola a southerner

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Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Penguin2: 8:17pm On Nov 04, 2021
SonofDevil:


Mimiko had a good political structure and had alliance with tinubu political structure in ondo 2007.

Abdulrazaq had acn,cpc,and pdp political structure. Immediately saraki defected to pdp, pdp led by their chairman collaspe thier structure to Apc.


Obaseki used both Apc (defector) and PDP political structure in Edo to win.


So you accept that after 12 years of APC in Edo, PDP still had structure?

But 8 years of APC and PDP structure has collapsed in the North?

PDP has no structure in the north and Ganduje had to depend on twisted rerun to win re-election after PDP candidate defeated him in the first count?

PDP has no structure in the north but Simon Lalong had to go on a rerun with PDP candidate in Plateau state?

PDP has no structure in the north but it reclaimed Adamawa and Bauchi from APC?
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Penguin2: 8:20pm On Nov 04, 2021
SonofDevil:
north re not clannish with politcs.
While abiola a southerner was beating tofa in North
Clannish igbos voted tofa a northerner ahead of abiola a southerner

You didn’t answer my question...

There’s always a first time for anything under the sun. So let’s assume in 2023 the north decides to play clannish politics and votes a northerner under PDP, where else would your Yoruba candidate hope on?
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Ogbuefi2020: 9:12pm On Nov 04, 2021
SonofDevil:
you re confused. Urban area is a developed part of a city.

Kano city total landmass is 499km
Aba city total landmass is 72km
Onitsha city is 52km

If you add together the whole urbanised part of aba and onitsha together it is not up to half of kano urban areas.
Kano urban areas covers 251km out of 499km
urban area is larger than a city , urban metropolitan area is made up of numerous cities and suburbs, infact you are a kid , i am even tired
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by naijapips04: 9:13pm On Nov 04, 2021
seunmsg:
Igbo man, be rest assured that nobody will give SE the APC ticket. Go to PDP and make your demand, that is where you sowed your votes so it shouldn't be too difficult to reap the presidential ticket of the party. APC will win the next presidential election irrespective of where the party candidate comes from. SE is inconsequential in determining who becomes the president so nobody gives a fvck about your threat. You don't have the votes to stop APC.

Oga tinubu will never get the ticket.
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Ogbuefi2020: 9:14pm On Nov 04, 2021
SonofDevil:
north re not clannish with politcs.
While abiola a southerner was beating tofa in North
Clannish igbos voted tofa a northerner ahead of abiola a southerner
why u de mumu urself nah ? north voted a southerner its ok but igbos voted a northener its clannish ?
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Drogunov: 9:43pm On Nov 04, 2021
seunmsg:


Dude, you’re free to say whatever makes you sleep well at night. It doesn’t change the reality on ground. Atiku won’t be president and Peter Obi won’t be Vice President.

And Tinubu won't be president too.
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by seunmsg(m): 9:56pm On Nov 04, 2021
naijapips04:


Oga tinubu will never get the ticket.

Yeah, it will be given to Peter Obi.

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Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Sonyboom765: 10:13pm On Nov 04, 2021
The only pendulum that can swing right now is the one that will swing you n your entire household to hell no other alternative.

Fahdiga:
Don't play God coz you are not. All you said is not cast on stone and you don't know the direction the pendulum might swing tomorrow. Again don't play God
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by naijapips04: 10:15pm On Nov 04, 2021
seunmsg:


Yeah, it will be given to Peter Obi.

Tinubu will never rule Nigeria. Know this and know peace.
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by Sonyboom765: 10:19pm On Nov 04, 2021
Was it your foolish wretch of a father that made this declaration or you are going mad ?


Penguin2:


You must have mistaken my article to mean me begging APC to zone its ticket to Southeast. Far from that dear brother.

I was just laying bare the reality that APC finds itself in right now.

Nothing is cast in stone, but you can’t be too hopeful that a Tinubu or an Osinbajo would garner more votes in the north than an Atiku or a Tambuwal.

And there’s no way the votes of the entire Southwest would come close to the votes of Southsouth and Southeast combined.

We have not put into consideration the fact that states like Oyo that has PDP governor might split its votes.

Add the fact that almost half of Lagos voters are Igbos.

Plus that Ondo has always tilted towards PDP.

Now where will the Southwest candidate get the numbers?

Don’t be emotional, try to be practical, pragmatic and realistic.
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by SonofDevil: 10:41pm On Nov 04, 2021
Penguin2:


So what you are telling us is that your Southwest candidate will be depending on the benevolence of northern voters to win, right? And if in 2023 the north decides to be clannish and support one of their own then it’s game over for Yoruba candidate.

Or is there anywhere else you would expecting miracle from?
South west is contesting APC platform that has its stronghold in
North west, north east,north central.
Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by SonofDevil: 10:53pm On Nov 04, 2021
Penguin2:


So you accept that after 12 years of APC in Edo, PDP still had structure?

But 8 years of APC and PDP structure has collapsed in the North?

PDP has no structure in the north and Ganduje had to depend on twisted rerun to win re-election after PDP candidate defeated him in the first count?

PDP has no structure in the north but Simon Lalong had to go on a rerun with PDP candidate in Plateau state?

PDP has no structure in the north but it reclaimed Adamawa and Bauchi from APC?

In Edo PDP structure alone didn't defeat APC.
It was coalition of pro-Apc obaseki and pdp vs apc while buhari stood neutral.

8 years of APC killed pdp structure in north. Pdp can't defeat Apc in north except they form coalition with CPC faction of APC .

Like i said in north they don't play clannish politics apc govs in adamawa and bauchi didn't perform the locals vote PDP in gubern and apc in national .

In bauchi apc has majority in bauchi house of assembly
Majority of house of reps and all the senators re apc. The only position pdp hold in bauchi is just the seat bala Mohammed is on which will be recovered

Ganduje almost because of the dollars video.but in national election APC thrashed pdp .apc won all senatorial tickets, majority of house of reps ,majority of state assembly lawmakers.

Simon LA long was leading with over 80k votes 150k votes was canceled they had to go for rerun. In national politics APC thrash pdp in plateau

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Re: Zoning For 2023: Has PDP Boxed APC To A Corner? by SonofDevil: 10:55pm On Nov 04, 2021
Penguin2:


You didn’t answer my question...

There’s always a first time for anything under the sun. So let’s assume in 2023 the north decides to play clannish politics and votes a northerner under PDP, where else would your Yoruba candidate hope on?
if your permutations for 2023 is north playing clannish politics then you re a clown

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