LordReed:
Yeah, the end times can be 10,000 years long just keep believing. LoL.
As I said not my problem so not holding my breath.

Yankee101:




Train up a child in the way he should go, And when he is old he will not depart from it. 

Bible Proverbs 22:6

NNTR:
A closed mind is like a closed hand. Nothing goes in or comes out.
Also a closed mind often has the closed hand to hit with, and not share with.
The past may bring tears, the future may bring fears.
So, live in the moment, live the moment, live it, as if its your last day on earth,
as the end times, whether 10,000 years long or not, will happen & take care of itself

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Tetehjewels:


No need to get all hot and bothered because I helped you present your next line of argument before you could use it

You atheists when cornered try to push the argument of earthquakes, tsunamis or other natural disasters to fault God but because I caught you before you could you just had to redirect and attack me Son instead

Typical when the brain well runs dry for you guys

LordReed:


LMAO! Stop trying to be clever by half, you only make an arse of yourself. You don't address the point instead you create a strawman to attack, just like now you think I attack your son when I am attacking your disingeniousness. Bwahahahahaha!

You are now forming high horse, GTFOH with your self righteousness.

StJohnofChrist:
That's just it, God is spirit. No man hath seen God at any time. But we see God in the man Jesus.

If after following atheists with their logic and proving that God exists within the superficial scope of science, and they choose not to see footprints of him. And then seek more outside science. Atheists want people to prove the existence of God within the scope of science and one can, but these evidences do not satisfy them as to them it bears no watermark of a God.

My question to atheists is do you know of the existence of black magic, juju and its effects?
If you don't, there is Google to figure out things, then think about it. Could there be a source of power behind these practices, of course the practicioner will claim he serves a god/idol, some will say spirits, just a doubt from you may make one show you proof on the go, perhaps by making something appear or disappear, etc.

We Christians, also have proof, it's called Miracles, Signs and wonders, by a higher authority than that of juju, voodoo, blackmagic. As he has promised us.
Mark 16:17
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.


It's so that Christ may be glorified.
I can show you.

Tetehjewels:


Now he is hurt and starts attacking with subs and failed attempts to belittle the other party. Same old tactic for an atheist

The one who has been forming high horse is now trying to say I have been forming the high horse. Lemao

Dude just roll over and give up. You were looking for an angle to argue with and I gave you none. It hurts bad doesn't it?

Laugh away at yourself for falling flat Bwahahahaha

LordReed:


You're just dumb that's why I said you should get your 8yr old on, I am sure he and I would have a more intellectually decent and honest conversation than I can have with you. You that couldn't answer a simple question. GTFOH man. LMFAO!

Tetehjewels:


Now out of embarrassment he is all over the place throwing subs

My kid is not the cause of your embarrassment bro so leave him out of your shame.

Lick your wounds, roll over and act the possum.

Always looking for an angle to argue with but I helped cut you off by giving you none and he is pissed and now throwing reckless subs.

StJohnofChrist:
That's just it, God is spirit.

KnownUnknown:


Indeed, but which kind?

Spirits include whiskey, gin, vodka, schnapps, liqueur, and brandy. All spirits, except for beer and wine, are technically clear and colorless. The change in colour from golden brown hue and other rich colours comes from the aging process.

LordReed:


LMFAO! See me see projection. Dude you couldn't keep up and decided to be a nuisance. Your 8year old is more reasonable than you so it's you who is embarrassed by how dumb you turned out too be compared to an 8yr old.

If you weren't stupid you'd have answered the directed questions instead of forming arguments with yourself. Dumbarse.

LordReed:


LMFAO! Given how old the god is supposed to be it will be so dark a spirit it might as well be black. God the original Black Label. Bwahahahahahahaha!

hupernikao:


You must have read about hell too much since you even have fire added to it.

Brother, you need to learn the right things, thus is key for you. Days are coming when your knowledge will be tested, you can't build a conviction on false information. It won't hold ground. I hope you get this.

Tetehjewels:


Still on the subs and my 8yr old Kid

Kai the pain must be really deep.

KnownUnknown:


Johnnie Walker.

LordReed:


Your conjectures are not proof of a god much less the Christian god.

Do you mean if I believe black magic exists or is real? My answer is no I don't believe. Neither your god nor his polar opposite are real so there is no "source" of magical powers to consider.

Dranoid:
exactly, so if you are right and the Christian God is real, the person you quoted would be punished due to no fault of his but his 'design'

jesusjnr2020:
No surprises that the more intelligent and wiser child believes in God.

This agrees with the general pattern in history, where those who believe in God have been observed to be exceedingly more intelligent than their ungodly peers including athiests.

Daniel 1:19-20 (KJV)

And the king communed with them; and among them all was found none like Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah: therefore stood they before the king.
And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king enquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.

This is also reflected in modern science where Isaac Newton, generally considered to be the greatest scientist in history was proudly a believer in God.

The idea by atheists that are more intelligent than those who believe in God is merely a figment of their imaginations, as history has clearly proven this to be baseless and false.

Your neighbor's son is surely in very good company. It's only a matter of time before your son makes him see how foolish it was to deny the existence of God as Isaac Newton did to those of his day.

God bless.

StJohnofChrist:
The thing is, it's real, I mean the spiritual is real. The unseen realm. I mean it's very very real.

I mean, why do atheists think they have the capacity to judge the evidences one who claims there is God has, atheists believe they have the intelligence, neutrality and warts and all to assess the evidence deciding whether there is God or not.
It's just like when the Big bang investigation came up and it was proven that the world in fact had a beginning, it didn't sit well with some atheists as they placed their faith in the unproven multiverse theory, so I read, which in itself is not objective manifestation.
Confusion if you ask me.

I believe atheists are like blind people, it's like telling a blind man to behold the beauty of Mona Lisa and the fine art.

An atheist has the pre conceived mindset of "I don't believe in the existence of a God" because there can't be any evidence. So any attempt to prove otherwise is just a passing wind.

In this country Nigeria and beyond, most especially Nigeria where the supernatural influence is almost relied on. Some out of a pre conceived mindset choose to feign ignorance with the amount of info on the public domain.

I mean why don't you get out there and find the truth. Instead of asking, seeming humble yet full of pride questions like "Proove there is God" every time when you've already set your mind to never believe anything that comes as proof.

The only proof I can show you is the spiritual, and at that I will pray for you. Most encounters with God are not like a Road to Damascus encounter or a Slash of the ear encounter. It's an overtime build up of faith.

Tetehjewels:


Had my kid read through your comment twice and he looked at me with a smile after reading it the second time and asked me to really explain to him what an atheist is (what is an atheist) those were his words after I had told him an atheist typed that. So had to take a few minutes to explain the who and what of atheism.

He paused and then said "okay".

He now asked a question connected to your comment about feelings. He actually asked me the question but I will direct it to you instead.

He said,"Um Daddy when grandma left us did you feel sad?"

I said we all felt sad you know this.

He said did Uncle Dennis know Grandma before she left us? I said no he didn't (because Dennis is a new friend I just made from his PTA meeting for the new class and my grandma died 2yrs ago so he never knew me or her then.

He said if Uncle Dennis is told now that we all felt sad when grandma left us would he be upset at us?

I said I don't think so

He now said "why would someone get upset and argue my own feelings with me which I feel toward someone or something that makes me happy even if that person or thing does not exist?" He paused then continued

"I mean is it actually the non existence of that which makes me happy they are unhappy with or arguing about or they are arguing over my own feelings which are mine to have?"

"If I am happy over the thoughts about Grandma why should this be of any concern to anyone since to them they never met or knew or experienced Grandma right?"

Now it was my turn to smile. This kid has a way with his thoughts and words and the way he pauses, looks down and talks as if he is reading it from somewhere it was written on the floor baffles me.

So that's his Question to you. He asks questions a lot so expect more of that if you reply this..afterall he is just 8

Bluezy13:


If you weren't prepared, you shouldn't have brought it here.
Guess you were expecting accolades for your son

LordReed:


And you know this how?



I have the capacity because you are asking me to believe and I don't believe things just because you said so. I must be able to examine whatever it is you are presenting and so far you have offered nothing.

You are misinformed. The multiverse is not a theory it is a hypothesis and it was not the reason some people initially rejected the BBT. In fact the multiverse hypothesis doesn't even preclude the BBT so you are very wrong on your analogy.

Besides what has BBT or multiverse got to do with showing us that black magic exists?




Sure, I am blind to the imaginations in your head. You cannot record them on video and give me to see.



All you have to do is present the evidence. You keep claim you have evidence but you have as yet presented nothing.




Not interested in your unhelpful superstitions. Your country is in a mess that all your worthless black or white magic ghas done nothing about, including your many worthless prayers to your god. If indeed your black or white magic exists we should have seen it beat back the guns of the Europeans when they came but alas, superstition can't beat cold steel.



Get out where? You tell me where I can find this black magic.



When ever you are ready to deliver this spiritual let me know. But while you are doing that ask your god for my full home address lets see how real he is.

StJohnofChrist:
No matter what I bring to you, you'll end coming up with another explanation to
Aid your belief in unbelieve. Whatever that means.
Even if there were to be a giant finger writing in the sky "God exists". You'd come up with a scientific explanation to "help" your unbelief.

Your knowledge on what an hypothesis is and a theory is is not accurate.

kingxsamz:


Lol, funny guy.
You brought this funny story to Nairaland to make your son look "smart" in the eyes of your fellow religious folks, and when people started pointing out the fallacies in your son's defence for the existence of a god, you're claiming that they're hurt over your son's "feelings". Meanwhile, you're the one who brought this story here for public consumption. Nawa.
I don't know if you were expecting a resounding "praise the lord" from religious folks here, but I'm sure it's not what you had hoped for.
Anyways, I'd commend you for allowing your son to be open about topics like this, rather than shutting him out from it and his friend who doesn't share the same belief.

kingxsamz:


Lol, exactly what I told him.
He wasn't expecting the back to back criticisms. That's why he's waiting for his son to respond because he himself doesn't know how to argue about things like this.

Tetehjewels:


The criticisms remain here while the reality is happening in my home and that of my neighbor.

Reality wins every time

StJohnofChrist:
No matter what I bring to you, you'll end coming up with another explanation to
Aid your belief in unbelieve. Whatever that means.
Even if there were to be a giant finger writing in the sky "God exists". You'd come up with a scientific explanation to "help" your unbelief.

Your knowledge on what an hypothesis is and a theory is is not accurate.

Tetehjewels:


Sorry to disappoint you

My Son has asked his friends dad if he can follow him to Church on Sunday and the Dad has given his consent especially since his own son also said he would like to go.

So this Sunday I will have 2 boys with me in Church. My Boy and his best Friend

Big things start with small steps wouldn't you say?

kingxsamz:


And what's the reality?
Sky daddy is real?
Guess you didn't care much about"reality" when you brought this to the forum expecting praises.

kingxsamz:


Lol, they're kids so I don't know what you're feeling like. Most atheists grew up in religious homes.
Those kids going to church with you does not guarantee if they'll be religious or non religious as they grow older. Just drop the pride,lol. You might get your feelings hurt in the end.

Tetehjewels:


It hurts you right? Incidentally I have a plan and my plan has his kid as the beginning

Try to get a peaceful sleep tonight and don't stay up fuming with anger

Console yourself and not me. My feelings are fine while yours are clearly not.

First Son, next father !