Shukusheka:
All these fact twisting just to push agenda sha. Anyone who watched Barcelona in 2009/2010 season knows Zlatan was struggling in the team and didn't settle well into the team.

Zlatan Ibrahimovich was very wasteful in front of goal, he was missing sitters after sitters. He was on a goal drought for 2 months in the league playing as a centre forward in a prime Barcelona team.

Of course agenda over facts.

Ronaldo’s fanatics are shameless for a reason and I wasn’t joking when I said that.

They’ve left National trophy and switched to Ibra’s beef to score point.

You’ll hardly see them anymore argue based on football stats, performances and achievements, na so so rubbish them dey bring up to score points.

Both players might be fully finished, but the truth remains that Messi is/was ahead of Ronaldo. It’s the bitter truth wey dey bitter me too because I like Ronaldo.

AnfieldFan:


Zlatan's SO CALLED FAILURE at Barcelona wasn't due to footballing activities...
You should know this considering how long you've been a football fan...

Zlatan struggled in the Barcelona team and didn't gel with the fast paced Tiki Taka football. He was very wasteful and unreliable as the team's CF. There was a game against Zaragoza Zlatan was so wasteful Messi had to dash him a penalty to save his ass.

Watch and see for yourself.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp7Ak0yH9fQ

Ibime:



Zlatan will never flop for that reason. Zlatan doesn't want all the time, he simply slows the game down before shooting which is a Hallmark of all good strikers. If slowness was his problem, he won't be scoring goals at 40 when he's even slower

Zlatan got bombed out deliberately because Messi wanted that position and was texting Pep about it.

First and foremost, I don't believe in that article, all this offline stuffs are not my thing. I can as well write that Ferguson is into some form of magic spell and defend it with how John terry slipped off for the last penalty when Ferguson suddenly pocketed his hands if could write well. And trust me people would consume it and use it as prove of their argument,even though what I wrote was just from the figment of my own imagination. So that's how useless I see all this kind of offline articles. I want event that happened on the pitch not some them say them say stories. Now let's talk about Zlatan,he is a fantastic striker no doubt but his pattern will always fall short when it mattered most because it requires that things should be done in his own way rather than following the flow of the game. He played mostly in the serial A where everything comes at snail level speed so his average 40 goals doesn't come as a surprise besides you don't get to play those intense game that would expose his flaw every week but occasionally. You can't have your time to shoot at will in a UCL semi final game, or other matches big games and this is where his flaws are mostly laid bared before our eyes. Secondly playing under the pep tiki taka as strikers requires you to make use of spaces to be able to latch onto the balls of those creative midfielders or bring out the defenders by holding on the ball and turning on them then realising the player in your front. Just watch the 2009/2010 UCL semi finals you will see the practical example of what I am trying to say.

popizaino:



First and foremost, I don't believe in that article, all this offline stuffs are not my thing. I can as well write that Ferguson is into some form of magic spell and defend it with how John terry slipped off for the last penalty when Ferguson suddenly pocketed his hands if could write well. And trust me people would consume it and use it as prove of their argument,even though what I wrote was just from the figment of my own imagination. So that's how useless I see all this kind of offline articles. I want event that happened on the pitch not some them say them say stories. Now let's talk about Zlatan,he is a fantastic striker no doubt but his pattern will always fall short when it mattered most because it requires that things should be done in his own way rather than following the flow of the game. He played mostly in the serial A where everything comes at snail level speed so his average 40 goals doesn't come as a surprise besides you don't get to play those intense game that would expose his flaw every week but occasionally. You can't have your time to shoot at will in a UCL semi final game, or other matches big games and this is where his flaws are mostly laid bared before our eyes. Secondly playing under the pep tiki taka as strikers requires you to make use of spaces to be able to latch onto the balls of those creative midfielders or bring out the defenders by holding on the ball and turning on them then realising the player in your front. Just watch the 2009/2010 UCL semi finals you will see the practical example of what I am trying to say.

I believe that 100%. Messi wanted the false 9. Ibra didn't flop anything, someone was just better and wanted his spot.

In Man City, Pep called all the players in one of his first meetings and asked if any of them is Messi. They said no. Then he said Messi is the only player in football that can tell him what to do and he can't bench, and they should shut up and follow his instructions precisely. That's as per Sami Nasri who was a first hand witness.

Ibime:



I believe that 100%. Messi wanted the false 9. Ibra didn't flop anything, someone was just better and wanted his spot.

In Man City, Pep called all the players in one of his first meetings and asked if any of them is Messi. They said no. Then he said Messi is the only player in football that can tell him what to do and he can't bench, and they should shut up and follow his instructions precisely. That's as per Sami Nasri who was a first hand witness.

Different journalist confirmed it. Here's an ex Barca marketing director saying the same thing.

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Debroslink:


When Guardiola granted his request, Messi dropped 50 La liga goals ( a record till date). Messi did this despite Ibrahimovic's presence in the team. We all know Ibrahimovic can't achieve such. Even Ronaldo couldn't.

So who the hell is that coach that won't grant Messi's request?

Easy with the lie na

Ibime:



I believe that 100%. Messi wanted the false 9. Ibra didn't flop anything, someone was just better and wanted his spot.

In Man City, Pep called all the players in one of his first meetings and asked if any of them is Messi. They said no. Then he said Messi is the only player in football that can tell him what to do and he can't bench, and they should shut up and follow his instructions precisely. That's as per Sami Nasri who was a first hand witness.

Bros Ibra flopped in that Barca team. He went through goal droughts while Messi who was playing from the wings was scoring hattricks after hattricks. I remember there was a point he had scored just 1 goal in 10 games. He was struggling.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp7Ak0yH9fQ

Trevor012:

Easy with the lie na

I admit my error there. Still doesn't change the fact that Ibra flopped @ Barca

Shukusheka:
Bros Ibra flopped in that Barca team. He went through goal droughts while Messi who was playing from the wings was scoring hattricks after hattricks. I remember there was a point he had scored just 1 goal in 10 games. He was struggling.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp7Ak0yH9fQ

Ibra only started returning poorly after he was bombed out from the no9

Ibime:



Ibra only started returning poorly after he was bombed out from the no9

No, he was misfiring before he lost his spot. He even went on a two month goal drought in the league in the middle of the season. He had some good games here and there but it was obvious Zlatan wasn't going to work and Messi playing as a false 9 was the future for Barcelona.

Zlatan of course won't want to take blame for his failure at Barcelona, so no one should be surprised he is pointing fingers at Messi for it.

Has anyone else seen the Netflix series on Bad Sports, episode 3 that talked about the Calcicopoli, Juventus and Moggi?

Was Moggi just made the scapegoat of a big ring?

Shukusheka:
Zlatan struggled in the Barcelona team and didn't gel with the fast paced Tiki Taka football. He was very wasteful and unreliable as the team's CF. There was a game against Zaragoza Zlatan was so wasteful Messi had to dash him a penalty to save his ass.

Watch and see for yourself.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp7Ak0yH9fQ

Ibra had 35 goal contributions in 46 matches....How is this flopping?
Ibra's issues came from his Inability to see eye to eye with Pep for whatever reason...
Every player has spells where the fail to find the back of the net, doesn't mean they aren't quality...

AnfieldFan:


Ibra had 35 goal contributions in 46 matches....How is this flopping?
Ibra's issues came from his Inability to see eye to eye with Pep for whatever reason...
Every player has spells where the fail to find the back of the net, doesn't mean they aren't quality...

You think Barca in 2009 paid 65m euros plus Samuel Eto'o for Ibra to come and score 22 goals a season?

Bombblacks:


Seems people like you don't understand the meaning of fluke. If you did something once and couldn't replicate it, it can well be regarded as a fluke.

Haba!!! This is very very very far from the definition of fluke

Melvyn11:

What batterings?

Messi batterrings of course

iamoyindamola:

Now let's use benchmark for that one cr7 use edge messi

Shukusheka:
You think Barca in 2009 paid 65m euros plus Samuel Eto'o for Ibra to come and score 22 goals a season?

22 goals a season with 13 assists is more than decent returns for any player...

AnfieldFan:


22 goals a season with 13 assists is more than decent returns for any player...

It was decent but Barca didn't beat their transfer record for a decent record. Even Eto'o who was used as a sacrificial lamb in the transfer deal was contributing way more than that number for Barca.

AnfieldFan:


22 goals a season with 13 assists is more than decent returns for any player...

This Ibra's total is less than Samuel Eto'o's goals (36) minus assists in his final season with Barca despite playing RW for most of the season. Now we sold this same Eto'o plus 60m to buy Ibra.

Ibra flopped abeg

Debroslink:


Ronaldo would have been the biggest flop in football history had he played under Guardiola in peak Barcelona. You think it's easy for a central striker to play Tiki-taka? Ask Ibrahimovic

anyone ever seen Ronaldo and flop in same sentence before now?

Shukusheka:
It was decent but Barca didn't beat their transfer record for a decent record. Even Eto'o who was used as a sacrificial lamb in the transfer deal was contributing way more than that number for Barca.

Ibra not hitting Eto's lengths doesn't invalidate his contributions...
Neymar and Suarez both failed to hit Messi's performances, doesn't take away the fact they were brilliant...The comparison you're making is not necessary...Ibra had a decent season with 35 goal contributions in 46 matches and who knows, maybe if Pep hadn't fallen out with him, he might have hit greater numbers in subsequent seasons..

Debroslink:


This Ibra's total is less than Samuel Eto'o's goals (36) minus assists in his final season with Barca despite playing RW for most of the season. Now we sold this same Eto'o plus 60m to buy Ibra.

Ibra flopped abeg

Ibra not hitting Eto's lengths doesn't invalidate his contributions...
Neymar and Suarez both failed to hit Messi's performances, doesn't take away the fact they were brilliant...The comparison you're making is not necessary...Ibra had a decent season with 35 goal contributions in 46 matches and who knows, maybe if Pep hadn't fallen out with him, he might have hit greater numbers in subsequent seasons..

Shukusheka:
It was decent but Barca didn't beat their transfer record for a decent record. Even Eto'o who was used as a sacrificial lamb in the transfer deal was contributing way more than that number for Barca.

Such a season will get you a second season at least if there was no wider politics at play, especially caveated by the fact he didn't play 9 all season.

The decision to ease him out for Messi was correct but no way can he be termed a flop. David Villa had worse numbers

Expert17:


They won't suspend shit, once you have 13 outfield players (10 starting and 3 subs) and a goalkeeper available; then you are good to go.

We go know academy wey useless now.

iamoyindamola:

You better behave yourself
bloody scumwat

Even you?

Jodera:
Haba!!! This is very very very far from the definition of fluke

Ok what's the definition of fluke and give examples.

iamoyindamola:

A new branded trait of stupidity have entered the argument, rest before it drag you down with it

You are meant for the mountain brother.

You saw it too.

Na why I kuku continue my honeymoon with wifey

elrony:


Make I give you pass this honeymoon period. I go deal with you later

I am extending the honeymoon period o,, oh ye vagabond priest

raumdeuter:


Leicester fluke league win or Everton consistent mid table.

I think Evertons consistency in Midtable is more impressive

Leyqute, see your egbon don enter the gist

Skimpledawg:

I am extending the honeymoon period o,, oh ye vagabond priest

E go soon end, I go fling you go that wilderness you priest of Beelzebub

Bombblacks:

Ok what's the definition of fluke and give examples.

definition: an unlikely chance occurrence, especially a surprising piece of luck.

In order words, it's something someone didn't intend to do or was just lucky enough to do. Flukes have been proven time and time again to be repeated.

Example: the goal saka scored against Chelsea last season was a fluke and it was repeated by masuaku against same Chelsea and against same Mendy. Those two goals are fluke and we can see that it was repeated as against your definition.

Leicester(for example) winning the league is no fluke cos it was not a surprising piece of luck cos they were winning consistently week in week out for a whole season.

In a nutshell, anything that demands consistency to produce results is no fluke