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Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by Nobody: 6:07pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
hupernikao: I need your assistance. |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by Nobody: 6:12pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by fredwill1357(m): 7:55pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
HardMirror:The evolution we are talking about does it have a mind of it's own? is it intelligent? does it have eyes and other senses? can it see? how does it know what to create? what needs to be created and how to create it? |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by HardMirror(m): 7:59pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
fredwill1357:no it does not. |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by fredwill1357(m): 8:00pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
LordReed:I think you are attaching too much importance to the human race, if a creator or creators exist, we are more like toys, robots and lower beings compared to them. If they don't want you to know about their existence or don't need your association, how do you get proof of their existence? |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by fredwill1357(m): 8:07pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
HardMirror:how then does it know what to create and how to create it? Most animals usually have a kind of defense mechanism, for instance a snail not being able to fight or run, has a shell it hides it's wet kinda fragile body in usually when it perceives it has being spotted. Animals who walk on fours usually have a tail to help them out, since their hands can't etc. |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by HardMirror(m): 8:22pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
fredwill1357:because you don't understand evolution. A snail is evolved to be a snail. Snails may die off in some distant years and we may have another organism but our life time is too short for us to witness any major leap. But for every human born, every animal born, there are mutations happening every time and over time it translates to bigger changes. As some mutations are re enforced and some die out. ... take a look at all animals. It is easy to see we have a common origin. The problem is the amount of micro changes happening daily is underestimated and overlooked. Look at dogs, cows, sheep's goats, maize, watermelon just under 10,000 years we humans have created hundreds of food varieties that never existed before and animals too that is just in a very very short time by just selectively breeding mutations in these animals and plants that we want 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by HardMirror(m): 8:31pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
fredwill1357: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVjgIF_m9J0 |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by fredwill1357(m): 8:35pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
HardMirror:some stones and objects of million of years have been discovered, and they are still like present stones and objects. What causes these mutations? I believe a need to meet up to something. |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by LordReed(m): 10:52pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
fredwill1357: If that is the case why do you believe then? Their existence is then irrelevant so what is the point of speculating? 3 Likes |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by DeepSight(m): 11:34pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
LordReed: It could give one living context and thus potential freedom. For example, if one concluded from the pieces of knowledge and experience available to you that this world is say, a reality show for an invisible audience or a social experiment in consciousness and psychology for a science class of extra-terrestrials, one may just abandon all pretenses to conscience and propriety and live wild and free. |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by LordReed(m): 11:43pm On Dec 27, 2021 |
DeepSight: But you can do that without thinking of some otherworldly audience. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by DeepSight(m): 12:12am On Dec 28, 2021 |
LordReed: I am not so certain. There is something about arriving at a personal conviction on any given matter which bequeaths a definition to one's trajectory of action that cannot be otherwise summoned. And for the man interested in the meaning of his life at an existential level of truth, nothing but conviction will suffice. This is what gives religion such a magnetic pull for many people. The true seeker however, can pursue this without the constraints of religion. But not without pondering those eternal questions - What really is out there? What am I? What am I doing here. Why am I here? And the existence or non-existence of God or gods is intricately tied up with these questions. |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by xproducer: 2:49am On Dec 28, 2021 |
HardMirror: +++ While people scoff/mock/dismiss until the last day - prophecy is continually being fulfilled before all our eyes - GOD has been and is still working. Facts! The Word of GOD never fails! "For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled." - Matthew 5:18 "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [a]instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." - 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit." - 2 Peter 1:21 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by ABCthings: 4:35am On Dec 28, 2021 |
fredwill1357: |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by ABCthings: 4:44am On Dec 28, 2021 |
HardMirror: There is na. 1. Evolution can't explain the origin of life, matter and energy. 2. Science can't explain supernatural activities. Supernatural activities prove God exist. God is the creator of things. |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by HardMirror(m): 7:12am On Dec 28, 2021 |
ABCthings:evolution is different from biogenesis. Both are science and science has given credible explanation to the origin of life. Science has rather debunked spiritual or supernatural activities as nothing of such has so far proven to exist. Can you tell me one single supernatural activity that proves god exist? |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by HardMirror(m): 7:13am On Dec 28, 2021 |
xproducer:imaginary last day. Stories |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by hupernikao: 7:59am On Dec 28, 2021 |
HardMirror: You are yet to answer how life began. Is it that hard HardMirror. One who claim knowledge but disappeared when the knowledge is needed is not fit to be relied on. O kàn fún wa ní fàabú ni with all your science said, science discovered. Let's explain how the very life began, you japaa. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by NNTR: 8:07am On Dec 28, 2021 |
DeepSight:How do you mean 'give one, living context and thus potential freedom'? DeepSight:With the portmanteau word television formulated from Ancient Greek 'tele' word, meaning 'far off or operating over distance', and the Greek word 'visio' word, meaning 'sight', I would submit that life, this side of eternity, is a reality television set or even goggle-box, displaying visual images with sounds for viewing consumption of both terrestrial and celestial beings Saying that life is a social experiment, if to be honest, is a gross overgeneralisation. Living on earth is not a research, especially not for someone that is omniscient. Not for someone who knows the end of everything from the beginning of the thing, even before the thing is formed. We are on earth with freedom of expression to express ourselves according to our individual nature and have experience(s). The thing about experience is, its the hardest kind of teacher. It gives you the test first and the lesson afterward. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by HardMirror(m): 8:12am On Dec 28, 2021 |
hupernikao:life started from synthesis of simple organic compounds. How did I japaaa? |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by hupernikao: 8:25am On Dec 28, 2021 |
HardMirror: Read what you wrote again and correct yourself. Organic compound is the uncreated matter, abi? That started all things. Correct yourself now. |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by HardMirror(m): 8:32am On Dec 28, 2021 |
hupernikao:will you shut up. Imagine talking to me as if you get sense. I should correct myself now. A senseless intellectually depraved person like you telling me to correct myself. Show me your sensible contribution on this thread that shows you even have an IQ of 50 here. |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by LordReed(m): 8:34am On Dec 28, 2021 |
DeepSight: You made reference to being wild and free, one can be wild and free without pondering the existence of otherworldly beings. Being wild and free has nothing to do with seeking answers to such questions. |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by HardMirror(m): 8:43am On Dec 28, 2021 |
LordReed:exactly 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by DeepSight(m): 9:47am On Dec 28, 2021 |
LordReed: It may. Remember I also qualified by referring to "the man who is interested in the meaning of his life at the level of existential truth." A conviction that life is a meaningless game may lead one to live wild and free, whilst a conviction that there is some higher purpose set afoot may lead one to cautious circumspection. I personally see the world as a school of consciousness and this informs my approach to many things - especially those things which I believe will be decisive at the crest of the wave. |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by fredwill1357(m): 9:50am On Dec 28, 2021 |
LordReed:Yeah, I said somewhere in this thread that life goes on however we came to be. Their existence is not completely irrelevant, depending on the angle you look at it. |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by DeepSight(m): 9:52am On Dec 28, 2021 |
HardMirror: Till this day, no one knows how. Nor has anyone been able to mix or even electrify "simple organic compounds" and thereby create life. This is a fact. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by hupernikao: 9:58am On Dec 28, 2021 |
HardMirror: Epèlé Sir. Shé kò sí ñkan Sir. Hope there is no trouble? On top internet discussion? You will survive it. I say again, go and read your message and correct yourself. Your inability to understand things and communicate well is embarrassing your 100% IQ. Focus on the discussion or japaa again. Was your "organic compound" uncreated? |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by LordReed(m): 10:09am On Dec 28, 2021 |
fredwill1357: What would be their relevance if they don't want us to know they exist? |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by HardMirror(m): 10:10am On Dec 28, 2021 |
hupernikao:organic compounds are products of inorganic compounds/elements. The fact you keep saying "japaa" proves my point that you no get sense and have nothing to contribute. You that has not japaaa, can you please tell us the origin of life? At least I have stated mine |
Re: Do You Know There Is No Single Evidence For Creation? by fredwill1357(m): 10:21am On Dec 28, 2021 |
LordReed:Remember I said I think you are attaching too much importance to the human race, you really think they owe us an explanation on why they created us? Humans can now create sentient robots with artificial intelligence that can feel emotions and even pain. If we get more technologically advanced we could move to mars or a more complicated planet, dump the robots on earth and play God in their existence. I personally think our creators created us out of boredom, maybe watching us all run around in the name of survival is fun for them. |
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