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Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Nobody: 10:24am On Dec 27, 2021 |
TenQ: I said you should tell me what you want to hear before you can assist me financially What is that knowledge you need about me? |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Nobody: 10:26am On Dec 27, 2021 |
LordReed: The silence is not helping matters |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by NNTR: 10:42am On Dec 27, 2021 |
LordReed:Matthew 26:59 Now the chief priests and the whole Council (Sanhedrin, Jewish High Court) tried to get false witnesses to testify against Jesus, so that they might [have a reason to] put Him to death. Mark 14:53-65 53Jesus was led off to the high priest. Then the chief priests, the nation's leaders, and the teachers of the Law of Moses all met together. 54Peter had followed at a distance, and when he reached the courtyard of the high priest's house, he sat down with the guards to warm himself beside a fire. 55The chief priests and the whole council tried to find someone to accuse Jesus of a crime, so they could put him to death. But they could not find anyone to accuse him. 56Many people did tell lies against Jesus, but they did not agree on what they said. 57Finally, some men stood up and lied about him. They said, 58 “We heard Him say He would tear down this temple that we built. He also claimed that in three days He would build another one without any help.” 59But even then they did not agree on what they said. 60The high priest stood up in the council and asked Jesus, “Why don't You say something in Your own defense? Don't You hear the charges they are making against You?” 61But Jesus kept quiet and did not say a word. The high priest asked Him another question, “Are you the Messiah, the Son of the glorious God?” 62 “Yes, I am!” Jesus answered. “Soon you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right side of God All-Powerful, and coming with the clouds of heaven.” 63At once the high priest ripped his robe apart and shouted, “Why do we need more witnesses? 64 You heard Him claim to be God! What is your decision?” They all agreed He should be put to death. 65Some of the people started spitting on Jesus. They blindfolded Him, hit Him with their fists, and said, “Tell us who hit You!” Then the guards took charge of Jesus and beat Him. Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories. |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Alao046(m): 10:53am On Dec 27, 2021 |
TenQ:I left religion as a whole, and not just Islam. Because as you can see, god is vacuum, void, non existing. So everything there are just lies and nonsense. But still its far better a strong religion than christainity. Christainity is empty, more lies and controversy surrounds it than Islam, Islam came after christainity so it is more matured and stronger than christainity |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by TenQ: 11:23am On Dec 27, 2021 |
Alao046:That's were you get it completely wrong. Christianity is NOT a religion. It is a RELATIONSHIP that has religious components. Islam however is a RELIGION! That is why you can't use religion to judge Christians, you can however use their relationship with God as a yardstick to evaluate them. There is a world of a difference! On your choice of Atheism, good for you. And what is/will be your gain? If you exist, don't you know that others that you know not of also exists. Can you explain the source of LIFE and CONSCIOUSNESS from inorganic materials? |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by TenQ: 11:27am On Dec 27, 2021 |
Crystyano:Because you act like one is is dependent on... I'll like to keep a distance! |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by LordReed(m): 11:56am On Dec 27, 2021 |
NNTR: The charge was he claimed to be equal to the god, were they wrong or not? |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by johnydon22(m): 8:28am On Dec 29, 2021 |
seguno2: Not necessarily, that would mean Hindus or Buddhists are just as violent because as you know they don't get shit on as much too. Atheists who were once muslims seem to be anti-Islam more 1 Like |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Myer(m): 9:27am On Dec 29, 2021 |
paxonel: You that have fully understood the bible like Luke, kindly share what others have missed. What differentiates a Christian from others? |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Alao046(m): 1:21pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
TenQ:If i can't, how does that prove the existence of a vacuum god. ![]() ![]() ![]() Even if i don't know how i came to exist, it still will never prove the existence of any supreme nonsense diety. |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by paxonel(m): 1:41pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
Myer:I can't say i have fully understood the bible yet, but i can tell you that i have understood it basic ideas and concepts, and i wish that everyone calling himself or herself a Christian should understand. Otherwise, they will continue to be defeated by atheists and other antiChrists or anti-christians. And i will also add that, it takes one to be educated to have a proper understanding of the dynamics of scriptures. If you are not educated or have a basic knowledge of logic, everything the bible is trying to explain to you will never benefit you, especially the parables and teachings of Jesus Christ. The highest you can do with these things is to use them to do the usual religious activities, that's all. But they never benefit you. Logic helps you to prepare your brain.. the knowledge of who exactly they are as Christians. And as such, they have missed or lost focus of the purpose of their existence on this earth. People who were erroneously thought from childhood by doctrines brought to Africa by colonial Christian missionaries of the 18th century that they will be raptured someday from this earth, and they still believe that error till this modern day, what do you expect from them? many Christians in Africa still do not know what distinguish them as Christians from other people. This is a very ridiculous confusion among believers. When you see pastors calling altar call today in their pulpit(example is pastor Enoch Adeboye), the same Christians will come out to be saved, not knowing that they are already saved just being born Christians. The question people will ask is, why will Pastor Adeboye involved in that kind of a scam ? |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Myer(m): 2:21pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
paxonel: You did not answer the last question though. What differentiates a Christian from a non-Christian? |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by TenQ: 3:16pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
Alao046:If you can't explain anything but you could make important decisions based on not knowing, what does it make you? What do we call people who act without thinking? |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by paxonel(m): 4:12pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
Myer:A Christian have faith in Christ, while a non Christian does not. |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by seguno2: 4:14pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
johnydon22: Hindus and Buddhists are quite violent in their own territories. They are not so relevant to us in Nigeria, compared with Christianity and Islam. |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Myer(m): 5:00pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
paxonel: That's not really a convincing point. A muslim could as well claim what differentiates a Mislim from any other religion is prophet Mohammed. Likewise a Jew can claim what differentiate them from other religions is Abraham or Moses. A Confucian can claim its Conficius. A Buddhist can claim Bhudda etc. So you see why just simply saying Christ does not answer the question. 2 Likes |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by paxonel(m): 5:51pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
Myer:ok exactly, and that's the truth. This is because, there are varieties of faiths this is whole point I'm trying to make. There are other indept knowledge we need to know beyond mere saying Christ |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Myer(m): 7:20pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
paxonel: You are still being elusive. Are there things that differentiate a Christian from others or not? If yes, praytell, do share |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by paxonel(m): 8:17pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
Myer:there is absolutely nothing else that differentiate a Christian from a non Christian other than his faith. As much as Christians enjoy life non Christians also do. Christians live righteously, infact there are non Christians who are more righteous than their Christian counterparts. So, there is nothing to boast of being a Christian other than faith which is the spiritual aspect |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Myer(m): 8:19pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
paxonel: Can you give scriptural reference to back this? |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by johnydon22(m): 9:01pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
seguno2: Exactly just as Islam is not as relevant as Christianity in southern Nigeria where these atheists are mostly from. Get it? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by paxonel(m): 9:48pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
Myer:Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. This implies that any form of boasting(which also include righteous living by keeping the law) is irrelevant, when it comes to faith. So, saying because i am a Christian therefore, i am better than Muslims, is boasting. In the real sense, there are muslims that are living righteously and doing better than some Christians. So, being a Christian is not about our ability to show to the world that we can live like Christ, it is just simply believing, that's all |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Myer(m): 9:57pm On Dec 29, 2021 |
paxonel: But a Muslim has Faith in Allah and Mohammed just as well as a Christian has faith in God and Jesus Christ. Likewise other religions and whom they place their faith in. At the end of the day, it's all a matter of having a religion you have faith in. Interestingly by virtue of geography we are inclined to be Muslims and Christian's in Nigeria. While Arabs are inclined to be mostly Muslims. Asians are inclined to be Buddhists and Hinduists. Etc So faith alone is not itself a distinguishing factor. |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by sonmvayina(m): 7:47am On Dec 30, 2021 |
I have the knowledge of God and I know what God means, what God is and is not.....I think to follow his dictates, laws and statues....The Christian religion has got nothing to do with God. It has nothing divine in it. It was only created after years of arguments by its first adherents.... Have a good knowledge of God and free yourself from the shackles of religion.. |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by paxonel(m): 7:51am On Dec 30, 2021 |
Myer:have you ever asked yourself how come inspite that in Africa, the dominant religions were the ones practiced in the name of ifa, oduduwa, obatala, sango, etc, but today, these faiths are not dominant anymore? It is because Christianity and Islam were introduced to Africans. Now, that is the power of introduction. To preach a new faith that wasn't used to the people and coverting the people into new religious ideas. This will ensure that, as time goes on Arabs will not always inclined to be Muslims. Asians will not always inclined to be Buddhists. Africans will not always inclined to practice oduduwa, obatala, sango or ogun worshipping. Even Europe and the Americans may have a lot of their population drifting away from Christianity into atheism and so on. Now, having said introduction, preaching was and it is still a method of introduction till this day. But there are methods which are more adequate and reliable than preaching, one of which is living good life and being a light that may attract people to your religion. This method works effectively. You don't need to convince anyone to join your religion, they are convinced by what they see in you sometimes, they become adhrent of your religion in their heart without you knowing what has happened to them. At the end of the day, what matters is : What faith do you belong, not how you live your life. A scripture says without faith it is impossible to please God |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Alao046(m): 3:18pm On Dec 30, 2021 |
TenQ:A how does that still leads to the prove of the existence of your heavenly invisible sky daddy. ? The fact that u don't know something, does not mean that someone else does not know it, or will not know it, even if it is a billions years to come. The thing is that i don't know, and i am honest enough to say that i don't know, but you religious folks don't also know too. But instead of you guys to also say you don't know, you will start bringing up one cartoon story of how one something somewhere said let there a light and how some people somewhere eat one apple and it is affecting me now. You cannot know the answer the every question in life, the one you know you say u know, and what you don't know is what you don't know. |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by IMAliyu(m): 4:00pm On Dec 30, 2021 |
Alao046:Interesting, I've always thought it was the other way around. That Christianity was more mature than Islam because it's older. And has had more time to work out its theology and philosophies that's why it's less prone to violent fanaticism now adays. Islam, though is more defined in its doctrines than Christianity. And that both Islam and Christianity are immature when compared to Buddhism and Hinduism. |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by TenQ: 5:32pm On Dec 30, 2021 |
Alao046:Common sense tell us that we can't know everything. Common sense tell us that every knowledge is useful. Common sense tell us that there are situations when we take reasonable action based on probabilities Common sense tell us that we sometimes base serious decisions on logic even though evidence is scarce. A brute mule will decide a position while pretending that there is not an iota of bases to take a reasonable action. |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Nobody: 8:31pm On Dec 30, 2021 |
Alao046: My mum keeps saying God will do it.... many Nigerians keep saying God will do it.......e no dey tire them? E don tire me! They will say thank God for waking up because it's not by your power...... some did not wake up.......but that one sef tire me..... anything about God just tire me..... O su mi ! I am fed up! |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Alao046(m): 8:02pm On Dec 31, 2021 |
TenQ:Sorry sir, my common sense will never allow me to believe in a non existing sky daddy without any iota of evidence. My common sense will not be called common if i base my whole life believing in a comic book written by drunkards. My common sense will not be called common when I start to believe that someone used a holy rod to divide the red sea, or that a prostitute virgin become pregnant and gave birth. My common sense cannot be called common if i start to believe that someone who could not save himself from been hanged on a cross like a chicken 2000yrs ago when he was alive, will now come and save me from my problem now that he is dead and his bone has gotten rotten. 1 Like |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by Alao046(m): 8:03pm On Dec 31, 2021 |
HellVictorinho3:There a many mad people roaming about the street, but they don't know |
Re: Are You An Atheist Or Anti-christian?? by sonmvayina(m): 8:09pm On Dec 31, 2021 |
I believe in one universal indivisible God and creator. Who is responsible for both good and evil. The Christian ideology is bull crap... |
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