Nigerian new gold refinery site at Night in Osun State.

Yeah ... the tourism trap

CSTRR:

Good for Ghana, but there is a trap to be avoided.

The carribeanization of Ghana.

I personally wouldn't want my country to be carribeanized.

Where people just come, have a good time for a short while and then go back to real countries where they carry out their economic activities and make money.

Tourism is good, but don't stop there.

forgiveness:


It doesn’t change the fact that Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Saints Kits etc are more developed than South Africa.

Now, show me the ranking of each of these indexed. I want to show you something.

in terms of HDI they are yes.... Who's denying that?

Shma:

Vertical infrastructure are basically buildings - low rise, skyscrapers etc.
Horizontal infrastructure is self explanatory - roads, rail system, fibre connectivity, etc.
Morocco is more developed - than nearly all sub-Saharan countries, save SA.
With Morocco's tiny economy, they are doing more than Nigeria - that explains how inflated your figures are.
Next time, engage the brain. Don't be childish every time.

Don’t kid yourself.if Kenya was half as developed as Marrakech ,Casablanca or even Rabat we wouldn’t be here having this conversation.we wouldn’t even be arguing.the argument would have died before hitting page 3.

Shma:


More organised than Lagos and Abuja - even though they focused on one area.

Way developed than Kenya,I agree.

gallivant:


Konza has more structures than Eko Atlantic desert. Just a quick reminder.

Don’t kid yourself,the only thing you have up there is an unproductive tea farm and a backdrop of sand dunes

gallivant:




Clearly we are dealing with armchair intellectuals.

Yeah that would be rvp cos that was what he was implying by shifting goal post.

kikuyu1:


[s]Ordinarily, I'd meet respond to you anymore than I would a battling dog: is Gupta a Kanuri, a Fulani or one of the "hard-working " people? Could he be Ijaw or maybe Ejiagham[/s]?

Stupid questions .I take you as sufferingnsmilling.

obaaderemi:
Kenyaairways debts would frighten off anyone. SAA about ten years ago was where Kenya airways is . Debt ridden.

A shame,a sham and what else; a hot mess. I would do thesame if I was SAA.

rvp2018:
Yes Brazil has revolunitized tropical farming - previously it was accepted knowledge that farming in the tropics was hopeless and agri only thrived in temperate climates but Brazil invested in research and have nailed it.

Africa countries should be busy copying Brazil.

And we are. The sooner you accept that our agro sector is no joke the better for your mental health.

https://www.blueprint.ng/nigeria-to-receive-first-batch-of-tractors-from-brazil-in-q1-2022/

rvp2018:
Heckling is not going to sway anybody. You're wasting your time. Facts are very stubborn. Your GDP data is COOKED. OVERCOOKED. CRAZY FIGURES

I doubt that. It’s as real as it gets.
See for yourself.

chrisooblog:
Now you have added illiteracy to lying. Did you even bother watching the video you posted? The rail line leading to our port in Apapa is being fixed because they discovered a fault it wasn't stolen. While the AC not working video is from early last year (note they didn't say the train isn't working)

Srsly why do you guys even bother replying that dude.I don’t even read this days cause I k is it’s the same ol’ crap.

GeneralDae:
Nigerian new gold refinery site at Night in Osun State.

The diversification is happening.we can’t be stopped,oh no we can’t.

Tractors is not what I am talking about. I am talking quality seeds and semens - that Brazil R& has produced - I am talking going there and bringing their sugarcane, rice, soya, name it seed varities- and planting it in Africa.

Tractor - is equipment like any other - and climate of the manufacturing country is not important.

But how can you copy Brazil when officially you claim to be more productive than Brazil

samorobo:


And we are. The sooner you accept that our agro sector is no joke the better for your mental health.

https://www.blueprint.ng/nigeria-to-receive-first-batch-of-tractors-from-brazil-in-q1-2022/

Precisely. When I looked at Nigeria data - I knew there was some cooking - but a quick comparison of their production data - and big boys like Brazil and US - demonstrated the cooking was horrendous.

Yemi Kale simply manufactured crazy guesswork in his office in Abuja but on the ground Nigeria agricluture long collapsed - and Nigeria uses oil proceeds to import food and refined fuel.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:


I have been also to Rwanda and before the war, Namibia Botswana Mozambique Malawi Seychelles Lesotho Swaziland, Liberia Benin Republic Togo all of these countries I have attended projects in agriculture. How can you say you produce a lot of food when people are dying of Hunger and poverty in Nigeria people do tomatoes which Nigeria produces 40% of it is thrown away

If Nigeria invested seriously in palm oil industry - it would be the next Malaysia. In kenya we are spending a billon dollars to import palm oil annually. This money that should be going to Nigeria. Palm oil is key igredient for manufacturer of a thousands things.

popizaino:



Nigeria also has her fair share of mechanized agricultural farms. This is Ada palm oil in limo state, Edo state also NAIFOR and there is another one in cross rivers state.

https://www.farmlandgrab.org/post/view/29793-edo-earmarks-100-000ha-of-land-for-oil-palm-cultivation




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsOcRBBdNBQ

Precisely. The production figures are wild guestimate because the entire sector is informal. You farm, you eat, take the surplus to local market and that is it. Nothing formally marketted. Nothing exported.

So the figures are just crazy guesswork and do not make sense at all.

SUFFERInSMILIIN:


Listen to me in Nigeria there is no organise farming it is not organised you just take your things to the market and sell the government does not know what people produce there is nobody which checks the quantity of production in the market or from the farms even not the government so all of those figures are bogus. I just go to the market and sell my product that is the Nigeria where there is no grain marketing board there is no rice with marketing board where you have to sell to you sell your food in the market so there is no calculation at all

With the 400M dollars Kipevu oil terminal in Mombasa now completed, Kenya wants to double its petroleum products handling capacity from the current 35,000 tonnes.

Remember Kenya is amongst few countries in Africa (South Africa is probably only other one in Sub Sahara) in Kenya with refined petroleum product pipeline...kenya re-export lots of - region.

Fuel shortage are unheard of in kenya.

President Uhuru is expected to commission the new Kipevu Oil Terminal in Mombasa.He will be accompanied by China's Minister for Foreign affairs and govt officials

From the Kipevu oil terminal - the six product pipeline - is fed into Kenya Pipeline - and is pumped to all kenya major cities- Nairobi, Nakuru, Eldoret and Kisumu. From Kisumu it's then pumped again to ships in Lake victoria - all the way to Kampala Uganda. Fuel stations collect them few kilometers from their nearest depot.

Fuel shortages in kenya are almost non existent

Kenya has almost 1,800 kilometres of refined products oil pipeline. Nigeria, Ghana and TZ (?) zero. Although we still have a long way to get to South Africa level - I think by 2015 we had about 1,600 petrol stations - about size of Gauteng - but we definitely the regional kings - supplying fuel as far south as Zambia - and far north as South Sudan.

From Kipevu oil terminal, risers each dedicated to a separate oil product and six onshore pipelines each dedicated to a separate oil product connecting the terminal to the Kenya Petroleum Refineries Limited (KPRL) and Kenya Pipeline Company (KPC) storage tanks.

rvp2018:

Kenya has almost 1,800 kilometres of refined products oil pipeline. Nigeria, Ghana and TZ (?) zero. Although we still have a long way to get to South Africa level - I think by 2015 we had about 1,600 petrol stations - about size of Gauteng - but we definitely the regional kings - supplying fuel as far south as Zambia - and far north as South Sudan.

From Kipevu oil terminal, risers each dedicated to a separate oil product and six onshore pipelines each dedicated to a separate oil product connecting the terminal to the Kenya Petroleum Refineries Limited (KPRL) and Kenya Pipeline Company (KPC) storage tanks.

The maintenance and integrity of the petroleum pipelines in Nigeria is the sole responsibility of NPSC. The pipelines are strategically located across the country and have about 5,120 kilometers length. Products are moved through these pipelines by pump, using mainline and boaster pimps, while some pump stations complement the work of the pipelines. The operation started in 1979 by the defunct Pipelines and Products Marketing Sector (PPMS), which was renamed Pipelines and Products Marketing Company (PPMC).

https://nnpcgroup.com/Downstream/pages/npsc.aspx

Nigerian problem with the pipelines in the past have been primarily due to vandalism and non functioning of the four refineries in the country built in the 1970's.

rvp2018:
Kenya has almost 1,800 kilometres of refined products oil pipeline. Nigeria, Ghana and TZ (?) zero. Although we still have a long way to get to South Africa level - I think by 2015 we had about 1,600 petrol stations - about size of Gauteng - but we definitely the regional kings - supplying fuel as far south as Zambia - and far north as South Sudan.

From Kipevu oil terminal, risers each dedicated to a separate oil product and six onshore pipelines each dedicated to a separate oil product connecting the terminal to the Kenya Petroleum Refineries Limited (KPRL) and Kenya Pipeline Company (KPC) storage tanks.

you really like to compete with Ghana .

For your information.... Ghana has almost 6,000 kilometers of product pipeline and over 230,000 metric tonnes of product tank farm storage capacity on the Volta Lake for product transfer to northern Ghana..

BOST and VRA have been laying pipelines even before Kenya got it independence....

I see - 5,120km of refined product pipeline is impressive - but probably completely vandalized by now - and fuel tankers are the main transport - and there is incessant fuel shortage

GeneralDae:


The maintenance and integrity of the petroleum pipelines in Nigeria is the sole responsibility of NPSC. The pipelines are strategically located across the country and have about 5,120 kilometers length. Products are moved through these pipelines by pump, using mainline and boaster pimps, while some pump stations complement the work of the pipelines. The operation started in 1979 by the defunct Pipelines and Products Marketing Sector (PPMS), which was renamed Pipelines and Products Marketing Company (PPMC).

https://nnpcgroup.com/Downstream/pages/npsc.aspx

Nigerian problem with the pipelines in the past have been primarily due to vandalism and non functioning of the four refineries in the country built in the 1970's.

Just30:
you really like to compete with Ghana .

For your information.... Ghana has almost 6,000 kilometers of product pipeline and over 230,000 metric tonnes of product tank farm storage capacity on the Volta Lake for product transfer to northern Ghana..

BOST and VRA has been laying pipelines even before Kenya got it independence....

That one just speaks from his ass. He sees a new thing in Kenya and assumes they are the first in Africa or the only ones besides maybe South Africa

rvp2018:
I see - 5,120km of refined product pipeline is impressive - but probably completely vandalized by now - and fuel tankers are the main transport - and there is incessant fuel shortage

Just admit you fvcked up with your initial assertion and let's move on.

The usual madness. Put a link and we can take you seriously.

Just30:
you really like to compete with Ghana .

For your information.... Ghana has almost 6,000 kilometers of product pipeline and over 230,000 metric tonnes of product tank farm storage capacity on the Volta Lake for product transfer to northern Ghana..

BOST and VRA has been laying pipelines even before Kenya got it independence....

I got that information from World Bank a few years ago. This is 2010 - Petroleum Markets in Sub Sahara Africa report
https://documents1.worldbank.org/curated/en/907171467990361424/pdf/549270NWP0eifd10box349431B01PUBLIC1.pdf

Only Kenya and South Africa have product pipelines. The pipeline
operation in Kenya has been frequently disrupted by power shortages.
A project for extending the pipeline to Uganda has suffered from years of
delay. The pipeline capacity in South Africa is currently constrained, but
another multi-product pipeline is planned. These limitations in the availability of operating pipeline capacity have increased costs of fuel supply.
There are long-term prospect

GeneralDae:

Just admit you fvcked up with your initial assertion and let's move on.

Yes WB is my ass,

Pipelines
State-owned product pipelines exist in Kenya and South Africa. The
30-year-old Mombasa–Nairobi section of the oil pipeline in Kenya has
at times operated at only 50 percent of capacity, partly because of erratic
power supply (East African 2007)

South Africa has both crude oil and petroleum product pipelines.
Petronet, a subsidiary of Transnet, which is majority owned by the government, is responsible for their operation. An impediment to price efficiency
is a temporary capacity constraint on the Transnet pipeline from Durban to
South Africa’s industrial heartland, Gauteng. This affects the cost of product supply not only to South African markets, but also to Botswana. In
response, Transnet has a plan to build a new multiproduct pipelin

GeneralDae:

That one just speaks from his ass. He sees a new thing in Kenya and assumes they are the first in Africa or the only ones besides maybe South Africa

GeneralDae:

That one just speaks from his ass. He sees a new thing in Kenya and assumes they are the first in Africa or the only ones besides maybe South Africa

it's just lunacy

rvp2018:
I got that information from World Bank a few years ago. This is 2010 - Petroleum Markets in Sub Sahara Africa report
https://documents1.worldbank.org/curated/en/907171467990361424/pdf/549270NWP0eifd10box349431B01PUBLIC1.pdf

Only Kenya and South Africa have product pipelines. The pipeline
operation in Kenya has been frequently disrupted by power shortages.
A project for extending the pipeline to Uganda has suffered from years of
delay. The pipeline capacity in South Africa is currently constrained, but
another multi-product pipeline is planned. These limitations in the availability of operating pipeline capacity have increased costs of fuel supply.
There are long-term prospect

From your link, this is what I found:

The study focuses on Burkina Faso, Côte d’Ivoire, Mali, Niger, and
Senegal in West Africa and Botswana, Kenya, Madagascar, Malawi, South
Africa, Tanzania, and Uganda in East and Southern Africa, covering a
wide range of conditions that affect price levels, such as the market size,
geography (whether landlocked or coastal), existence of domestic refin-
eries, degree of sector liberalization including pricing, and level of eco-
nomic development.

rvp2018:
The usual madness. Put a link and we can take you seriously.

Just shut up and go and sleep....

You will never catch up with countries that consume more petroleum products than you in anything about petroleum

rvp2018:
I got that information from World Bank a few years ago. This is 2010 - Petroleum Markets in Sub Sahara Africa report
https://documents1.worldbank.org/curated/en/907171467990361424/pdf/549270NWP0eifd10box349431B01PUBLIC1.pdf

Only Kenya and South Africa have product pipelines. The pipeline
operation in Kenya has been frequently disrupted by power shortages.
A project for extending the pipeline to Uganda has suffered from years of
delay. The pipeline capacity in South Africa is currently constrained, but
another multi-product pipeline is planned. These limitations in the availability of operating pipeline capacity have increased costs of fuel supply.
There are long-term prospect

yes, only kenya and SA have product pipeline.

P.S...... I won't bother to reply ur mention to this post because I know it would be useless as ur brain.