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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:36am On Jan 06, 2022
Great. That explain it. Now is the Nigeria 5K plus pipeline fuctional? And why do you have fuel shortages, and such fuel adulteration it shocking.
GeneralDae:

From your link, this is what I found:

The study focuses on Burkina Faso, Côte d’Ivoire, Mali, Niger, and
Senegal in West Africa and Botswana, Kenya, Madagascar, Malawi, South
Africa, Tanzania, and Uganda in East and Southern Africa, covering a
wide range of conditions that affect price levels, such as the market size,
geography (whether landlocked or coastal), existence of domestic refin-
eries, degree of sector liberalization including pricing, and level of eco-
nomic development.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:38am On Jan 06, 2022
I am pleasantly surprised. I wont be surprised though if it's been completed vandalized. How do you explain the incessant fuel shortages in Nigeria. How do you explain crazy fuel tankers in Lagos bursting into flames.

I remember reading Dangote refinery thing - and biggest problem was lack of product pipeline - the refined fuel would be fed into fuel tankers.

theenchanter:
yes, only kenya and SA have product pipeline.

P.S...... I won't bother to reply ur mention to this post because I know it would be useless as ur brain.



Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 8:38am On Jan 06, 2022
GeneralDae:

That one just speaks from his ass. He sees a new thing in Kenya and assumes they are the first in Africa or the only ones besides maybe South Africa grin
he's just useless. What the idiot is jubilating over has been in Nigeria for over 50years. smiley

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:41am On Jan 06, 2022
Once again misplaced anger. This is Nigeria on a typical day. Fuel shortage crisis. How can you boast of a functional product pipeline and have this?
theenchanter:
he's just useless. What the idiot is jubilating over has been in Nigeria for over 50years. smiley

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:45am On Jan 06, 2022
Suffering and Smilling, you were right, this Nigeria is crazy, now cash shortages in bank smiley smiley - the ultimate zoo. HOW THE HELL DOES THAT EVEN HAPPEN. How is that even possible...


Speaking on condition of anonymity, the official who heads one of the branches of a Tier-1 bank in Lagos, said: “Yes, it is in all the banks. I don’t really know what is going on. I will just be in my office and hear customers calling me that they want to withdraw cash and the staff were saying there is no money, and I will call somebody downstairs to help me look for cash or call another branch that we need cash, ‘can I send someone to you to collect some cash?’

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/01/widespread-cash-supply-shortage-persists-in-banks/

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 8:51am On Jan 06, 2022
rvp2018:
Great. That explain it. Now is the Nigeria 5K plus pipeline fuctional? And why do you have fuel shortages, and such fuel adulteration it shocking.
Why did the UK have fuel shortages last year


Why did the US experience fuel shortages last year .... They all have in the hundreds of thousands of kilometers of pipelines...


Your thinking capacity is not holistic

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:10am On Jan 06, 2022
rvp2018:
I am pleasantly surprised. I wont be surprised though if it's been completed vandalized. How do you explain the incessant fuel shortages in Nigeria. How do you explain crazy fuel tankers in Lagos bursting into flames.

I remember reading Dangote refinery thing - and biggest problem was lack of product pipeline - the refined fuel would be fed into fuel tankers.

Dangote was talking about Subsea Gas Pipeline Project from the Niger Delta to the Lekki Free Trade Zone in Lagos. That gas pipeline is a 1100 kilometres project.

It's so much work educating you for free, I hope you know that?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 9:20am On Jan 06, 2022
In Africa, We don't produce oil but we're one of the most developed countries in pipeline infrastructure.

Nigeria, one of the biggest oil producers in the world is not doing well - neither are they bad.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 9:24am On Jan 06, 2022
samorobo:


Way developed than Kenya,I agree.
You're making a lot of useless noise.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 9:31am On Jan 06, 2022
samorobo:


Don’t kid yourself.if Kenya was half as developed as Marrakech ,Casablanca or even Rabat we wouldn’t be here having this conversation.we wouldn’t even be arguing. the argument would have died before hitting page 3.

That is according to you, who don't have a brain, but according to jl115, who is 10times more intelligent than you, knows with facts at hand that Lagos ain't more developed than Kigali, Nairobi, and windhoek. If you want to bash Kenya in that sense, remember that your country is 1000yrs below Kigali.

And please, you're a disgrace to some of your compatriots, try expand your horizon of thinking, don't glue yourself on Kenyan affairs, there is Ghana and SA too.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 9:33am On Jan 06, 2022
Shma:
In Africa, We don't produce oil but we're one of the most developed countries in pipeline infrastructure.

Nigeria, one of the biggest oil producers in the world is not doing well - neither are they bad.
it's nobody's fault if u don't produce oil. U have oil but u don't produce it, so whose fault is that?

Why not blame it on ur limited extraction technology instead of ranting and singing unnecessary praise to ur self? We don't have minerals yen yen yen bullsh1t.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 9:37am On Jan 06, 2022
rvp2018:
With the 400M dollars Kipevu oil terminal in Mombasa now completed, Kenya wants to double its petroleum products handling capacity from the current 35,000 tonnes.

Remember Kenya is amongst few countries in Africa (South Africa is probably only other one in Sub Sahara) in Kenya with refined petroleum product pipeline...kenya re-export lots of - region.

Fuel shortage are unheard of in Kenya.
Coastal Kenya is doing impressive stuff.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 9:45am On Jan 06, 2022
theenchanter:
it's nobody's fault if u don't produce oil. U have oil but u don't produce it, so whose fault is that?

Why not blame it on ur limited extraction technology instead of ranting and singing unnecessary praise to ur self? We don't have minerals yen yen yen bullsh1t.

Mr, we just discovered oil recently, relax. It will take time to assemble the right technology - but before that, get your facts right. your article is 8yrs old when we've just discovered oil.

Nigeria which has been the biggest - and the leading oil producer in Africa for decades can't even brag about basic pipeline & electricity infrastructure. Your country should be doing Dubai kind of stuff, not allowing your cities to sink into shambolic state cool.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 9:52am On Jan 06, 2022
the
CSTRR:

Good for Ghana, but there is a trap to be avoided.

The carribeanization of Ghana.

I personally wouldn't want my country to be carribeanized.

Where people just come, have a good time for a short while and then go back to real countries where they carry out their economic activities and make money.

Tourism is good, but don't atop there.

Ghana is one of those sh*tholes that believes in stomach. You'll never see any serious investment in that country. Tourists visit ghana to see those rare species of humans but go to relevant - real countries to do investments. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 9:52am On Jan 06, 2022
Shma:


Mr, we just discovered oil recently, relax. It will take time to assemble the right technology - but before that, get your facts right. your article is 8yrs old when we've just discovered oil.

Nigeria which has been the biggest - and the leading oil producer in Africa for decades can't even brag about basic pipeline & electricity infrastructure. Your country should be doing Dubai kind of stuff, not allowing your cities to sink into shambolic state cool.
if u think the article is 8yrs old, then it's either u need a new phone, a new concave lens glasses or better still, a new pair of eyes because the article clearly dated "Friday, September 17, 2021", only the inserted picture that was taken in 2014. Dumb people everywhere.... From rvp, ur master, to the least idiot.

If u can't get the right technology for 8yrs, what's d assurance that u'll get it in the next 80yrs?

My country, Nigeria is doing it's best and I don't care about ur perception of her.

The point is, never u idiots claim to be a mineral-less country. U're not mineral-less but brainless to extract the minerals.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:00am On Jan 06, 2022
Shma:
the

Ghana is one of those sh*tholes that believes in stomach. You'll never see any serious investment in that country. Tourists visit ghana to see those rare species of humans but go to relevant - real countries to do investments. grin
yet Ghana received more investment in a year than your country will ever receive in a decade .....

Is it because your country is not a real country? grin


Ghana govt yearly infrastructure investment is twice of yours .... Make your statement make sense grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:01am On Jan 06, 2022
theenchanter:
if u think the article is 8yrs old, then it's either u need a new phone, a concave lens glasses or better still, a new pair of eyes because the article clearly date "Friday, September 17, 2021".

If u can't get the right technology for 8yrs, what's d assurance that u'll get it in the next 80yrs?

My country, Nigeria is doing it's best and I don't care about ur perception of her.

The point is, never u idiots claim to be a mineral-less country. U're not mineral-less but brainless to extract the minerals.
I will go with the tools you drop for reference. Your own tool is displaying a 2014 image, which sums up 8yrs mark.

I can write an article today and use the same content used in 2010 - it won't dispute the fact that the information is out of date.

Nigeria is doing her best, yes. If that's your capacity, then cool.

You didn't discover your oil, whites did - they provided the right technology to produce it, and they engineered the whole process until your brainless illiterates came for lessons who later took part in the process.

In Kenya, only kenyans - blacks discovered the oil. We did it on our own, We're extracting it on our own - with slight help from white experts - if the tech ain't capable enough, we've money to import more capable machines.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 10:10am On Jan 06, 2022
Shma:

I will go with the tools you drop for reference. Your own tool is displaying a 2014 image, which sums up 8yrs mark.

I can write an article today and use the same content used in 2010 - it won't dispute the fact that the information is out of date.

Nigeria is doing her best, yes. If that's your capacity, then cool.

You didn't discover your oil, whites did - they provided the right technology to produce it, and they engineered the whole process intil your brainless illiterates came for lessons.
it's obvious, like rvp, u don't have sense.

The article is a 2021 article but they used a 2014 image to drive their point, because apparently, nothing much have been done on site for them a get latest image, hence the usage of the image they've got.

Yes, u can write an article today and use 2010 content, but if the story on ground hasn't changed, then the today's article u wrote is not out of date because it's still a matter arising as at the time u wrote d article.

Ok, whites discovered oil in Nigeria abi? But is it not d same whites that discovered oil in Kenya, why haven't they provided the right technology for you to explore it?

Only if u know when to stop an argument, it'll save the earth some CO2.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:12am On Jan 06, 2022
Just30:
yet Ghana received more investment in a year than your country will ever receive in a decade .....

Is it because your country is not a real country? grin


Ghana govt yearly infrastructure investment is twice of yours .... Make your statement make sense grin

Those were never my sentiments, hobbit. The person who boldly claimed that your country is not real is a Nigerian. I was just emphasizing his point - because I saw how you humbled while responding to him.

I can't take any disrespect.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:15am On Jan 06, 2022
Very nice map. Look like Tanzania - Zambia is long one.
Shma:
In Africa, We don't produce oil but we're one of the most developed countries in pipeline infrastructure.

Nigeria, one of the biggest oil producers in the world is not doing well - neither are they bad.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:17am On Jan 06, 2022
The future of Kenya is Lamu industrial port city and Mombasa free port. Gov need to take care of AGOA - and establish industries around LAMU deep sea port. Once Japanase also build the free dongo kundu port - all the likoni-kwale areas can become a new industrial complex.

LAMU SEZ - 700Km SQm - will create 1 million jobs - I would invest in Lamu in the medium term. The deep sea port is ready.

Mombasa and Kisumu will take some time to fly

The Kenya vision 2030, envisions 3 world-class Special Economic Zones
for Kenya
•1) Greater Mombasa SEZ : 3,000 sq km – (to create 2 million new jobs).
•2) Lamu SEZ: 700 sq km – (to create 1 million new jobs).
•3) Kisumu SEZ: 700 sq km- (to create 1 million new jobs).

Special Economic Zones may include, but not limited to:
(a) free trade zones;
(b) industrial parks;
(c) free ports;
(d) information communication technology parks;
(e) science and technology parks;
(f) agricultural zones;
(g) tourist and recreational zones;
(h) business service parks;
(i) livestock zones.

Shma:

Coastal Kenya is doing impressive stuff.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:21am On Jan 06, 2022
Shma:


Those were never my sentiments, hobbit. The person who boldly claimed that your country is not real is a Nigerian, I was just emphasizing his point - because I saw how you humbled while responding to him.

I can't take any disrespect.
you seem to have a comprehension problem ....
Go and read again, brainless Kenyan ...


We were talking about tourist just being tourist and your incessant need to compare with Ghana compared your country to Ghana in investment .. and now that I've placed the investment facts to you...

You've quilled your tail in between your legs to finally think about your irrelevant country.. grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:25am On Jan 06, 2022
theenchanter:
it's obvious, like rvp, u don't have sense.

The article is a 2021 article but they used a 2014 image to drive their point, because apparently, nothing much have been done on site for them a get latest image, hence the usage of the image they've got.

Yes, u can write an article today and use 2010 content, but if the story on ground hasn't changed, then the today's article u wrote is not out of date because it's still a matter arising as at the time u wrote d article.

Ok, whites discovered oil in Nigeria abi? But is it not d same whites that discovered oil in Kenya, why haven't they provided the right technology for you to explore it?

Only if u know when to stop an argument, it'll save the earth some CO2.

Nonsense - don't reduce yourself to a dimwit, you're way above that. simple arithmetics will give you the power of time difference. You discovered oil a long time ago, Kenya just did it recently. You should understand different types of business level, starting with the early stage which involves production, we are still in production level, we have to spend a lot to earn a licence.

You didn't even read your article to understand. You're just replaying for relying sake.

Your article,

Tullow has yet to develop the field for commercial production more than nine years after it first struck oil in Turkana, attributing the delay to factors such as unfavourable global oil prices since 2014, approval delays for land and water rights, a tax dispute and Covid-19 disruptions.

The firm and its partners in the project Africa Oil and Total had initially planned to reach a final investment decision in 2019 and production of the first oil between this year and next year.

Tullow has already presented the Kenya government with a draft comprehensive investment plan for oil production in Turkana, looking to beat a government deadline to do so by the end of this year or risk losing the concession.

Tullow expects the Ministry of Petroleum to peruse the plan and provide feedback before it presents a final plan by December.

Approval of the investment plan will see the firm kick off plans to build the infrastructure, including an 825-kilometre heated pipeline to evacuate Kenya’s oil.

“Tullow and its joint venture partners have worked closely together over the past year to reshape the Kenya Development. Through this work, we have made the project financially viable at lower oil prices and adjusted our plans to improve the environmental and social impact of the development,” said Tullow.

When a firm first wins an oil licence, it is typically given a number of years of exclusive rights to explore.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:34am On Jan 06, 2022
theenchanter:
it's obvious, like rvp, u don't have sense.

The article is a 2021 article but they used a 2014 image to drive their point, because apparently, nothing much have been done on site for them a get latest image, hence the usage of the image they've got.

Yes, u can write an article today and use 2010 content, but if the story on ground hasn't changed, then the today's article u wrote is not out of date because it's still a matter arising as at the time u wrote d article.

Ok, whites discovered oil in Nigeria abi? But is it not d same whites that discovered oil in Kenya, why haven't they provided the right technology for you to explore it?

Only if u know when to stop an argument, it'll save the earth some CO2.

Understand the time difference. The whites who discovered your oil had a mission. They have drained your oil and now, they have left you with nothing. The people who discovered your oil have exploited you.

Kenya is not going to do that. We are going to conduct this process with due diligence.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PetroDolla2020: 10:38am On Jan 06, 2022
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Shma:
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Ghana is one of those sh*tholes that believes in stomach. You'll never see any serious investment in that country. Tourists visit ghana to see those rare species of humans but go to relevant - real countries to do investments. grin
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:39am On Jan 06, 2022
CSTRR:

Good for Ghana, but there is a trap to be avoided.

The carribeanization of Ghana.

I personally wouldn't want my country to be carribeanized.

Where people just come, have a good time for a short while and then go back to real countries .

He politely disrespected you. A comprehension problem is what is doing you.

Just30:
you seem to have a comprehension problem ....
Go and read again, brainless Kenyan ...


We were talking about tourist just being tourist and your incessant need to compare with Ghana compared your country to Ghana in investment .. and now that I've placed the investment facts to you...

You've quilled your tail in between your legs to finally think about your irrelevant country.. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 10:40am On Jan 06, 2022
Shma:


Nonsense - don't reduce yourself to a dimwit, you're way above that. simple arithmetics will give you the power of time difference. You discovered oil a long time ago, Kenya just did it recently. You should understand different types of business level, starting with the early stage which involves production, we are still in production level, we have to spend a lot to earn a licence.

You didn't even read your article to understand. You're just replaying for relying sake.

Your article,

Tullow has yet to develop the field for commercial production more than nine years after it first struck oil in Turkana, attributing the delay to factors such as unfavourable global oil prices since 2014, approval delays for land and water rights, a tax dispute and Covid-19 disruptions.

The firm and its partners in the project Africa Oil and Total had initially planned to reach a final investment decision in 2019 and production of the first oil between this year and next year.

Tullow has already presented the Kenya government with a draft comprehensive investment plan for oil production in Turkana, looking to beat a government deadline to do so by the end of this year or risk losing the concession.

Tullow expects the Ministry of Petroleum to peruse the plan and provide feedback before it presents a final plan by December.

Approval of the investment plan will see the firm kick off plans to build the infrastructure, including an 825-kilometre heated pipeline to evacuate Kenya’s oil.

“Tullow and its joint venture partners have worked closely together over the past year to reshape the Kenya Development. Through this work, we have made the project financially viable at lower oil prices and adjusted our plans to improve the environmental and social impact of the development,” said Tullow.

When a firm first wins an oil licence, it is typically given a number of years of exclusive rights to explore.

ur link is different from my post. They aren't the same.

But from ur post anyway, it's obvious kenya is still useless because since 2014 when u discovered oil, u still can't get approval for land and water right, together with tax dispute. All still under the govt parastatals.

As for the last paragraph, that's the straw that broke ur camel's argument back.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PetroDolla2020: 10:41am On Jan 06, 2022
stop talking trash and go and feed your starving millions of mudder fuger kenyans grin

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Shma:


Understand the time difference. The whites who discovered your oil had a mission. They have drained your oil and now, they have left you with nothing. The people who discovered your oil have exploited you.

Kenya is not going to do that. We are going to conduct this process with due diligence.
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just30: 10:42am On Jan 06, 2022
Shma:


He politely disrespected you. A comprehension problem is what is doing you.

he didn't

He basically described what tourism is... Unfortunately you didn't get it

You then made it an investment Convo and I pointed to the investment facts and you are still rampaging

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 10:42am On Jan 06, 2022
Shma:


Understand the time difference. The whites who discovered your oil had a mission. They have drained your oil and now, they have left you with nothing. The people who discovered your oil have exploited you.

Kenya is not going to do that. We are going to conduct this process with due diligence.
so what is tullow oil doing in Kenya?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 10:43am On Jan 06, 2022
Just30:
he didn't

He basically described what tourism is... Unfortunately you didn't get it

You then made it an investment Convo and I pointed to the investment facts and you are still rampaging
lol, he's trying to manipulate ur intelligence not knowing u're smarter than his class teacher will ever be.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:45am On Jan 06, 2022
theenchanter:
ur link is different from my post. They aren't the same.

But from ur post anyway, it's obvious kenya is still useless because since 2014 when u discovered oil, u still can't get approval for land and water right, together with tax dispute. All still under the govt parastatals.

As for the last paragraph, that's the straw that broke our camel's argument back.

I didn't drop any link, but they are the same
https://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/tea/business/80pc-of-kenya-crude-oil-cannot-be-tapped-3553356

Just go and read to the end.

Getting approval is not being backward - there is approval from the community, which in this case, is the Turkana community.

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