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My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Speaklove: 7:12pm On Jan 02, 2022
First of all #Lordreed I never intended to go public -with with this discussion between myself and you.
but as i was noting down the words that God inspired me to give as a reply to your question I found out that "they are too
Powerful and effect-creating"so much that they could also be the saving grace for others while keeping you in view .

This is not a plan to shame you or put you to public ridicule or debate -I am not a debator.
So please bear with me and forgive me for taking this path .
Thank you very much for your cooperation and understanding-#speaklove

.
This was Lordreed's reply to one of my comment on a particular post of mine
This is the link https://www.nairaland.com/6901414/ever-thought

LordReed:


A god that resides only in your mind can't answer such a prayer. And that is all your god is, a mental construct which is why I said no thanks. If your god was real you'd direct me to him but alas all you can do is offer supplication to your mental magic sky daddy.

This is my reply .
It is not meant for lordreed alone but also for all those who upheld the same thought about god like himself.

#speaklove#
You said
" A god that resides in your mind. "
#me
So if you claimed he resides in my mind then that should be one if the evidences that he is real because ;the mind is one of the four components of the soul .

The human soul is a living matter ,
And the mind is not an ordinary term to describe the thinking faculty of a human but a factual space of existence within the soul of man .

Secondly
You said "If your god was real you'd direct me to him but alas all you can do is offer supplication to your mental magic sky daddy"

#me
This is an indication that you've conceived a wrong or partial definition of the term or word "REALITY" within you .

"Reality" is not "Reality" because you can see or touch it ,rather it is about what you can or not see or what you can hear or not hear but
Which affect and influence your existence irrespective of your knowledge about it or acknowledgement of it .

So God was not or is not real because we think or imagined his existence but because we can see and feel his influence ,his power ,his dominion ,his artistic splendor displayed all over the wall of creation .

We ourselves are one of the proofs of the existence and reality of god -in that we are constantly faced with bewilderment every time we behold the streams of miraculous innovations and new findings from experiment conducted by this wonderful being called man .
So even the findings done through scientific experiments are not(or should not be) for discrediting the existence of God but for pointing to undeniable and factual traits that are no less than the handiwork if a higher being
Whose splendor are greater than anything humans can think or imagine ,and this being can not be called anything less than God-the Creator.

In fact;sometimes it is the wonder that flows from the exploits of men that made some men to begun to call some of their fellow men "gods" .
Even the man David looked at man and wondered, that he asked in
Psalms 8:4-6
[4]"What is man that You are mindful of him, And the son of man that You visit him?
[5]For You have made him a little lower than the angels, And You have crowned him with glory and honor.
[6]You have made him to have dominion over the works of Your hands; You have put all things under his feet,
.
But they had no knowledge that man was made in the image and likeness of God.
This means: man was created to manifest the majesty of God to the whole of creation as a representative of God on earth .

So the scriptures say
Romans 8:19
[19]For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God.

You #Lordreed#
I believe you are here on nairaland .
I did not believe because I could see you
But I believed your existence here on nairaland because I can feel you and see the works of your hand .

You yourself are an expression of the reality of God.

If you are looking for the evidence of the reality of God do not go far my dear friend
But look at yourself in a mirror .

You are fake as far as the mirror is concern because you don't live in the mirror ,
(same way god does not live in the world)

The mirror can't see you (even though you can see yourself in the mirror)
The mirror can't hear you (even though you can hear yourself speaking be for the mirror)

But you yourself know that you truly exist even though the mirror doubt or deny your existence .

The mirror can not see you
But you can see the mirror and even see yourself in the mirror .

The same way when God want to take a look at himself to see how he looks
He looks at "Lordreed" and smile and say how handsome I am .

But "lordeed" doesn't want to believe in god because he cant see God ,but God can see himself in" Lordreed" because God is real .

Lordreel -you are like " a mirror ",and God is like "Lordreed " who take a look at a mirror and see himself in the mirror even though the mirror might disagree , deny or doubt the existence of Lordreed".

So the mirror's inability to hear or see lordreed does not invalidate the existence of Lordreed .
The same way
Lordreed's inability to hear or see God does not invalidate the existence of God .

This is my reply to Lordreed and to every other person who upheld the same thought that he penned out as a question or argument for the nonexistence of God .

This answer his inspired by the spirit of the same God whose existence you question or doubt .
Even this answer alone is a pointer to the glory of the living God -even Jehovah who saved us and washes us from our sins by the blood of his son Jesus Christ .
For God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whosoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

#Lordreed .this is a stream of love that flows from the heart of the spirit of the living God who dwells in me towards you ,
And he declare unto you today and now
2 Corinthians 6:2
[2]For He says: “In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

Please yield your hearts to Jesus and be saved.! please.

I love you .

Modified On 2 -2 - 2023

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Speaklove: 7:28pm On Jan 02, 2022
I'm going to post a diffrent topic on this issues someday

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Nobody: 7:42pm On Jan 02, 2022
Speaklove:
First of all #Lordreed I never intended to go public -with with this discussion between myself and you.
but as i was noting down the words that God inspired me to give as a reply to your question I found out that "they are too
Powerful and effect-creating"so much that they could also be the saving grace for others while keeping you in view .

This is not a plan to shame you or put you to public ridicule or debate -I am not a debator.
So please bear with me and forgive me for taking this path .
Thank you very much for your cooperation and understanding-#speaklove

.
This is was Lordreed's reply to one of my comment on a particular post of mine



This is my reply .
It is not meant for lordreed alone but also for all those who upheld the same thought about god like himself.

#speaklove#
You said
" A god that resides in your mind. "
#me
So if you claimed he resides in my mind then that should be one if the evidences that he is real because ;the mind is one of the four components of the soul .

The human soul is a living matter ,
And the mind is not an ordinary term to describe the thinking faculty of a human but a factual space of existence within the soul of man .

Secondly
You said "If your god was real you'd direct me to him but alas all you can do is offer supplication to your mental magic sky daddy"

#me
This is an indication that you've conceived a wrong or partial definition of the term or word "REALITY" within you .

"Reality" is not "Reality" because you can see or touch it ,rather it is about what you can or not see or what you can hear or not hear but
Which affect and influence your existence irrespective of your knowledge about it or acknowledgement of it .

So God was not or is not real because we think or imagined his existence but because we can see and feel his influence ,his power ,his dominion ,his artistic splendor displayed all over the wall of creation .

We ourselves are one of the proofs of the existence and reality of god -in that we are constantly faced with bewilderment every time we behold the streams of miraculous innovations and new findings from experiment conducted by this wonderful being called man .
So even the findings done through scientific experiments are not(or should not be) for discrediting the existence of God but for pointing to undeniable and factual traits that are no less than the handiwork if a higher being
Whose splendor are greater than anything humans can think or imagine ,and this being can not be called anything less than God-the Creator.

In fact;sometimes it is the wonder that flows from the exploits of men that made some men to begun to call some of their fellow men "gods" .
Even the man David looked at man and wondered, that he asked in
Psalms 8:4-6
[4]"What is man that You are mindful of him, And the son of man that You visit him?
[5]For You have made him a little lower than the angels, And You have crowned him with glory and honor.
[6]You have made him to have dominion over the works of Your hands; You have put all things under his feet,
.
But they had no knowledge that man was made in the image and likeness of God.
This means: man was created to manifest the majesty of God to the whole of creation as a representative of God on earth .

So the scriptures say
Romans 8:19
[19]For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God.

You #Lordreed#
I believe you are here on nairaland .
I did not believe because I could see you
But I believed your existence here on nairaland because I can feel you and see the works of your hand .

You yourself are an expression of the reality of God.

If you are looking for the evidence of the reality of God do not go far my dear friend
But look at yourself in a mirror .

You are fake as far as the mirror is concern because you don't live in the mirror ,
The mirror can't see you (even though you can see yourself in the mirror)
The mirror can't hear you (even though you can hear yourself speaking be for the mirror)

But you yourself know that you truly exist even though the mirror doubt or deny your existence .

The mirror can not see you
But you can see the mirror and even see yourself in the mirror .

The same way when God want to take a look at himself to see how he looks
He looks at "Lordreed" and smile and say how handsome I am .

But "lordeed" doesn't want to believe in god because he cant see God ,but God can see himself in" Lordreed" because God is real .

Lordreel -you are like " a mirror ",and God is like "Lordreed " who take a look at a mirror and see himself in the mirror even though the mirror might disagree.

So the mirror's inability to hear or see lordreed does not invalidate the existence of Lordreed .
The same way
Lordreed's inability to hear or see God does not invalidate the existence of God .

This is my reply to Lordreed and to every other person who upheld the same thought that he penned out as a question or argument for the nonexistence of God .

This answer his inspired by the spirit of the same God whose existence you question or doubt .
Even this answer alone is a pointer to the glory of the living God -even Jehovah who saved us and washes us from our sins by the blood of his sin Jesus Christ .
For God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whosoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

#Lordreed .this is a stream of love that flows from the heart of the spirit of the living God who dwells in me towards you ,
And he declare unto you today and now
2 Corinthians 6:2
[2]For He says: “In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

Please yield your hearts to Jesus and be saved.! please.

I love you .

Modified



Atheism doesn't make me special....but I remain atheistic because theism doesn't solve problems.




Theism doesn't answer questions.



I actually think atheists can be much more stupid than theists......but I know I ain't like every other atheist.



In other words,all atheists are not the same.





Life is absurd ....... and it's beyond your life.
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Speaklove: 7:58pm On Jan 02, 2022
HellVictorinho3:




Atheism doesn't make me special....but I remain atheistic because theism doesn't solve problems.




Theism doesn't answer questions.



I actually think atheists can be much more stupid than theists......but I know I ain't like every other atheist.



In other words,all atheists are not the same.





Life is absurd ....... and it's beyond your life.




Yes atheism doesn't make you or anyone who would agree special ,instead it takes away your specialty and genuineness and hands you the wind to box with -the result :you will never hit a thing but hoping to hit something hard someday because you enjoy the ventilation it gives which is freedom of being directly influence .

Secondly it takes embracing what men call stupidity to be a true theist .
It requires foolishness many times
So atheist are wise but ..................
fill the gap with anything that you've ever heard a spirit being calls foolishness in their own realm .

So the mistake,and insufficiency of atheism is like eternity,

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Nobody: 8:52pm On Jan 02, 2022
Speaklove:

Yes atheism doesn't make you or anyone who would agree special ,instead it takes away your specialty and genuineness and hands you the wind to box with -the result :you will never hit a thing but hoping to hit something hard someday because you enjoy the ventilation it gives which is freedom of being directly influence .

Secondly it takes embracing what men call stupidity to be a true theist .
It requires foolishness many times
So atheist are wise but ..................
fill the gap with anything that you've ever heard a spirit being calls foolishness in their own realm .

So the mistake,and insufficiency of atheism is like eternity,



Theism doesn't make you special.... atheists aren't always wise.... spirits don't exist...... sermons can't solve my problems.

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by DeepSight(m): 8:57pm On Jan 02, 2022
Speaklove:

If you are looking for the evidence of the reality of God do not go far my dear friend
But look at yourself in a mirror .

You are fake as far as the mirror is concern because you don't live in the mirror ,
(same way god does not live in the world)

The mirror can't see you (even though you can see yourself in the mirror)
The mirror can't hear you (even though you can hear yourself speaking be for the mirror)

But you yourself know that you truly exist even though the mirror doubt or deny your existence .

The mirror can not see you
But you can see the mirror and even see yourself in the mirror .

The same way when God want to take a look at himself to see how he looks
He looks at "Lordreed" and smile and say how handsome I am

You know, notwithstanding the generally simplistic nature of your post, this bit with the analogy of the mirror really struck a nerve with me. There is something to it. . . its quite evocative of the idea of beings on different dimensions of reality. Such as a two dimensional creature being unable to perceive a three dimensional creature, even though the three dimensional creature can see the two dimensional creature.

For God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whosoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

This is problematic.
Please remember always - that even if you establish the existence of "God" you still have a long way from there to the conclusion that the execution of a Jewish man adjudged guilty of sedition by the Romans somehow absolves you of your sins and will make a paradisaical home for you in an afterlife.

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Nobody: 12:03am On Jan 03, 2022
DeepSight:


You know, notwithstanding the generally simplistic nature of your post, this bit with the analogy of the mirror really struck a nerve with me. There is something to it. . . its quite evocative of the idea of beings on different dimensions of reality. Such as a two dimensional creature being unable to perceive a three dimensional creature, even though the three dimensional creature can see the two dimensional creature.



This is problematic.
Please remember always - that even if you establish the existence of "God" you still have a long way from there to the conclusion that the execution of a Jewish man adjudged guilty of sedition by the Romans somehow absolves you of your sins and will make a paradisaical home for you in an afterlife.


There's no dimension of reality where God is..... neither is the analogy of the mirror worth the time.

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Speaklove: 3:15pm On Jan 04, 2022
Hmm.
I'm back!
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Workch: 8:07pm On Jan 04, 2022
Speaklove:
First of all #Lordreed I never intended to go public -with with this discussion between myself and you.
but as i was noting down the words that God inspired me to give as a reply to your question I found out that "they are too
Powerful and effect-creating"so much that they could also be the saving grace for others while keeping you in view .

This is not a plan to shame you or put you to public ridicule or debate -I am not a debator.
So please bear with me and forgive me for taking this path .
Thank you very much for your cooperation and understanding-#speaklove

.
This is was Lordreed's reply to one of my comment on a particular post of mine
This is the link https://www.nairaland.com/6901414/ever-thought



This is my reply .
It is not meant for lordreed alone but also for all those who upheld the same thought about god like himself.

#speaklove#
You said
" A god that resides in your mind. "
#me
So if you claimed he resides in my mind then that should be one if the evidences that he is real because ;the mind is one of the four components of the soul .

The human soul is a living matter ,
And the mind is not an ordinary term to describe the thinking faculty of a human but a factual space of existence within the soul of man .

Secondly
You said "If your god was real you'd direct me to him but alas all you can do is offer supplication to your mental magic sky daddy"

#me
This is an indication that you've conceived a wrong or partial definition of the term or word "REALITY" within you .

"Reality" is not "Reality" because you can see or touch it ,rather it is about what you can or not see or what you can hear or not hear but
Which affect and influence your existence irrespective of your knowledge about it or acknowledgement of it .

So God was not or is not real because we think or imagined his existence but because we can see and feel his influence ,his power ,his dominion ,his artistic splendor displayed all over the wall of creation .

We ourselves are one of the proofs of the existence and reality of god -in that we are constantly faced with bewilderment every time we behold the streams of miraculous innovations and new findings from experiment conducted by this wonderful being called man .
So even the findings done through scientific experiments are not(or should not be) for discrediting the existence of God but for pointing to undeniable and factual traits that are no less than the handiwork if a higher being
Whose splendor are greater than anything humans can think or imagine ,and this being can not be called anything less than God-the Creator.

In fact;sometimes it is the wonder that flows from the exploits of men that made some men to begun to call some of their fellow men "gods" .
Even the man David looked at man and wondered, that he asked in
Psalms 8:4-6
[4]"What is man that You are mindful of him, And the son of man that You visit him?
[5]For You have made him a little lower than the angels, And You have crowned him with glory and honor.
[6]You have made him to have dominion over the works of Your hands; You have put all things under his feet,
.
But they had no knowledge that man was made in the image and likeness of God.
This means: man was created to manifest the majesty of God to the whole of creation as a representative of God on earth .

So the scriptures say
Romans 8:19
[19]For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God.

You #Lordreed#
I believe you are here on nairaland .
I did not believe because I could see you
But I believed your existence here on nairaland because I can feel you and see the works of your hand .

You yourself are an expression of the reality of God.

If you are looking for the evidence of the reality of God do not go far my dear friend
But look at yourself in a mirror .

You are fake as far as the mirror is concern because you don't live in the mirror ,
(same way god does not live in the world)

The mirror can't see you (even though you can see yourself in the mirror)
The mirror can't hear you (even though you can hear yourself speaking be for the mirror)

But you yourself know that you truly exist even though the mirror doubt or deny your existence .

The mirror can not see you
But you can see the mirror and even see yourself in the mirror .

The same way when God want to take a look at himself to see how he looks
He looks at "Lordreed" and smile and say how handsome I am .

But "lordeed" doesn't want to believe in god because he cant see God ,but God can see himself in" Lordreed" because God is real .

Lordreel -you are like " a mirror ",and God is like "Lordreed " who take a look at a mirror and see himself in the mirror even though the mirror might disagree , deny or doubt the existence of Lordreed".

So the mirror's inability to hear or see lordreed does not invalidate the existence of Lordreed .
The same way
Lordreed's inability to hear or see God does not invalidate the existence of God .

This is my reply to Lordreed and to every other person who upheld the same thought that he penned out as a question or argument for the nonexistence of God .

This answer his inspired by the spirit of the same God whose existence you question or doubt .
Even this answer alone is a pointer to the glory of the living God -even Jehovah who saved us and washes us from our sins by the blood of his son Jesus Christ .
For God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whosoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

#Lordreed .this is a stream of love that flows from the heart of the spirit of the living God who dwells in me towards you ,
And he declare unto you today and now
2 Corinthians 6:2
[2]For He says: “In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

Please yield your hearts to Jesus and be saved.! please.

I love you .

Modified thrice by 7 :45pm. On 2 -1 - 2022
It's amazing how you think you can convince any athiest by using quotes from the Bible.
The flaws in the Bible which we have read is why we are mostly atheists

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by LordReed(m): 8:18pm On Jan 04, 2022
Speaklove:
First of all #Lordreed I never intended to go public -with with this discussion between myself and you.
but as i was noting down the words that God inspired me to give as a reply to your question I found out that "they are too
Powerful and effect-creating"so much that they could also be the saving grace for others while keeping you in view .

This is not a plan to shame you or put you to public ridicule or debate -I am not a debator.
So please bear with me and forgive me for taking this path .
Thank you very much for your cooperation and understanding-#speaklove

.
This is was Lordreed's reply to one of my comment on a particular post of mine
This is the link https://www.nairaland.com/6901414/ever-thought



This is my reply .
It is not meant for lordreed alone but also for all those who upheld the same thought about god like himself.

#speaklove#
You said
" A god that resides in your mind. "
#me
So if you claimed he resides in my mind then that should be one if the evidences that he is real because ;the mind is one of the four components of the soul .

The human soul is a living matter ,
And the mind is not an ordinary term to describe the thinking faculty of a human but a factual space of existence within the soul of man .

Secondly
You said "If your god was real you'd direct me to him but alas all you can do is offer supplication to your mental magic sky daddy"

#me
This is an indication that you've conceived a wrong or partial definition of the term or word "REALITY" within you .

"Reality" is not "Reality" because you can see or touch it ,rather it is about what you can or not see or what you can hear or not hear but
Which affect and influence your existence irrespective of your knowledge about it or acknowledgement of it .

So God was not or is not real because we think or imagined his existence but because we can see and feel his influence ,his power ,his dominion ,his artistic splendor displayed all over the wall of creation .

We ourselves are one of the proofs of the existence and reality of god -in that we are constantly faced with bewilderment every time we behold the streams of miraculous innovations and new findings from experiment conducted by this wonderful being called man .
So even the findings done through scientific experiments are not(or should not be) for discrediting the existence of God but for pointing to undeniable and factual traits that are no less than the handiwork if a higher being
Whose splendor are greater than anything humans can think or imagine ,and this being can not be called anything less than God-the Creator.

In fact;sometimes it is the wonder that flows from the exploits of men that made some men to begun to call some of their fellow men "gods" .
Even the man David looked at man and wondered, that he asked in
Psalms 8:4-6
[4]"What is man that You are mindful of him, And the son of man that You visit him?
[5]For You have made him a little lower than the angels, And You have crowned him with glory and honor.
[6]You have made him to have dominion over the works of Your hands; You have put all things under his feet,
.
But they had no knowledge that man was made in the image and likeness of God.
This means: man was created to manifest the majesty of God to the whole of creation as a representative of God on earth .

So the scriptures say
Romans 8:19
[19]For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God.

You #Lordreed#
I believe you are here on nairaland .
I did not believe because I could see you
But I believed your existence here on nairaland because I can feel you and see the works of your hand .

You yourself are an expression of the reality of God.

If you are looking for the evidence of the reality of God do not go far my dear friend
But look at yourself in a mirror .

You are fake as far as the mirror is concern because you don't live in the mirror ,
(same way god does not live in the world)

The mirror can't see you (even though you can see yourself in the mirror)
The mirror can't hear you (even though you can hear yourself speaking be for the mirror)

But you yourself know that you truly exist even though the mirror doubt or deny your existence .

The mirror can not see you
But you can see the mirror and even see yourself in the mirror .

The same way when God want to take a look at himself to see how he looks
He looks at "Lordreed" and smile and say how handsome I am .

But "lordeed" doesn't want to believe in god because he cant see God ,but God can see himself in" Lordreed" because God is real .

Lordreel -you are like " a mirror ",and God is like "Lordreed " who take a look at a mirror and see himself in the mirror even though the mirror might disagree , deny or doubt the existence of Lordreed".

So the mirror's inability to hear or see lordreed does not invalidate the existence of Lordreed .
The same way
Lordreed's inability to hear or see God does not invalidate the existence of God .

This is my reply to Lordreed and to every other person who upheld the same thought that he penned out as a question or argument for the nonexistence of God .

This answer his inspired by the spirit of the same God whose existence you question or doubt .
Even this answer alone is a pointer to the glory of the living God -even Jehovah who saved us and washes us from our sins by the blood of his son Jesus Christ .
For God so loved the world that he gave his only son that whosoever believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life.

#Lordreed .this is a stream of love that flows from the heart of the spirit of the living God who dwells in me towards you ,
And he declare unto you today and now
2 Corinthians 6:2
[2]For He says: “In an acceptable time I have heard you, And in the day of salvation I have helped you.” Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

Please yield your hearts to Jesus and be saved.! please.

I love you .

Modified thrice by 7 :45pm. On 2 -1 - 2022

There is one thing that will get me to start believing in your god. Will you ask your god for it?
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Speaklove: 7:09pm On Jan 14, 2022
LordReed:


There is one thing that will get me to start believing in your god. Will you ask your god for it?

What is it ?
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Speaklove: 7:14pm On Jan 14, 2022
Workch:
It's amazing how you think you can convince any athiest by using quotes from the Bible.
The flaws in the Bible which we have read is why we are mostly atheists

It is rather amazing how you think you could interpret another man's (spiritual) language simply by exercising your brain


It is like a french man trying to interpret fulfude by his intellectual capacity without seeking insight from the indigenous.

Think again
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Bacteriologist(m): 7:46pm On Jan 14, 2022
Speaklove:

#speaklove#
You said
" A god that resides in your mind. "
#me
So if you claimed he resides in my mind then that should be one if the evidences that he is real because ;the mind is one of the four components of the soul .

The human soul is a living matter ,
And the mind is not an ordinary term to describe the thinking faculty of a human but a factual space of existence within the soul of man .

Believing something is true IN YOUR MIND is not evidence that such things exists in reality.

If I believe that a hot cup of milk is rotating around the solar system, that doesn't make it true. Subjective experiences and anecdotes are just that, anecdotes.


"Reality" is not "Reality" because you can see or touch it ,rather it is about what you can or not see or what you can hear or not hear but

Wrong. Reality can be subjective, granted. But when we refer to reality, it's usually about objective reality in facts and observed phenomenons. Wishful thinking and opinions are not necessarily real and have little to do with reality.


So God was not or is not real because we think or imagined his existence but because we can see and feel his influence ,his power ,his dominion ,his artistic splendor displayed all over the wall of creation .

When and where did you see this god? Besides which god? Each religion (we have like 4,000 of them) can use this same line and what changes is they substitute Allah, Ifa, Obatala, Thor.

Seeing nature and thinking therefore God exists. DOES NOT mean that God exists. You're just making a leap to appeal to your preconceived belief.



We ourselves are one of the proofs of the existence and reality of god -in that we are constantly faced with bewilderment every time we behold the streams of miraculous innovations and new findings from experiment conducted by this wonderful being called man .

Yea, thats not how evidence works.


So even the findings done through scientific experiments are not(or should not be) for discrediting the existence of God but for pointing to undeniable and factual traits that are no less than the handiwork if a higher being
Whose splendor are greater than anything humans can think or imagine ,and this being can not be called anything less than God-the Creator.

Yall apologists used to claim thunder was god speaking, science came along and gave a clear explanation of how thunder works and how it merely a natural phenomenon which is not at all as a result.of supernatural or divine influence, the same has happened for explanations of many other things, such as gravity and genetics.

So far everything deemed supernatural has been exposed to be as a result of complete natural processes. No god needed

Science keeps making enquiries and making investigations based on facts and giving us explanations for observed phenomena while all you church folks do is say "yea god did it"

You need to step up and read the writing on the wall. Science is closing the god gap and religion is losing its grip in the minds of many with each passing day.

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by LordReed(m): 11:48am On Jan 16, 2022
Speaklove:


What is it ?

If your god can tell you my present full address, I will start to believe.
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Nobody: 4:14pm On Jan 16, 2022
LordReed:


If your god can tell you my present full address, I will start to believe.

LordReed my man, are you still here causing trouble? grin

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Speaklove: 6:07pm On Jan 16, 2022
LordReed:


If your god can tell you my present full address, I will start to believe.

I myself have no power to tell you such things but God does .
His power and majesty is above what you've ask for ,because he is the one who knows the beginning and the end of all things before they began .
The bible has a record of such challenge of yours presented to God in the days of Daniel
And God shew himself as the majesty who know all things -the alpha and omega .

And I trust him to give you a reply best suit for your request ,and let him show his glory to others like you that his name might be glorified at the end .

Let God be truth and everyone a liar .

See lordreed my God is supreme above your question and he will reveal his majesty to the world through your question and your life that you will end up being a proclaimer of the glory and knowledge of God that is in the face of Jesus Christ -even the word of God .

Only wait for God to give answer to you
And it shall be done .

#speaklove 16 -1 -2022 (6:08pm)
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by LordReed(m): 11:37pm On Jan 16, 2022
Speaklove:


I myself have no power to tell you such things but God does .
His power and majesty is above what you've ask for ,because he is the one who knows the beginning and the end of all things before they began .
The bible has a record of such challenge of yours presented to God in the days of Daniel
And God shew himself as the majesty who know all things -the alpha and omega .

And I trust him to give you a reply best suit for your request ,and let him show his glory to others like you that his name might be glorified at the end .

Let God be truth and everyone a liar .

See lordreed my God is supreme above your question and he will reveal his majesty to the world through your question and your life that you will end up being a proclaimer of the glory and knowledge of God that is in the face of Jesus Christ -even the word of God .

Only wait for God to give answer to you
And it shall be done .

#speaklove 16 -1 -2022 (6:08pm)

Well then let your god reveal it to you.
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by LordReed(m): 11:38pm On Jan 16, 2022
PastorMIsBack:


LordReed my man, are you still here causing trouble? grin

I dey o! How far? Happy New Year!

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Speaklove: 8:53am On Oct 30, 2022
Ho God!
lord of all the earth !
Visit us again ,and take away the iniquity of the land ,and let peace reign again in our midst .
Cause your righteousness to flow like a river
And justice like a fountain of a great fall .

Arise and shine upon us ho sun of righteousness .

Forgive us ,and pardon our unbelief .
Strengthen. And quicken us ; and we shall call upon thee as the child cries after it mother.

Cause us to thirst for thy word as a nursing child thirst for its mother's milk .

teach us to wait on thee as the farmers waits for the rain

Do not turn away forever but remember us once again - ho remember Jerusalem your Church and Israel you people
Remember me ho God - my righteousness
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by LordReed(m): 12:28pm On Oct 30, 2022
Speaklove:
Ho God!
lord of all the earth !
Visit us again ,and take away the iniquity of the land ,and let peace reign again in our midst .
Cause your righteousness to flow like a river
And justice like a fountain of a great fall .

Arise and shine upon us ho sun of righteousness .

Forgive us ,and pardon our unbelief .
Strengthen. And quicken us ; and we shall call upon thee as the child cries after it mother.

Cause us to thirst for thy word as a nursing child thirst for its mother's milk .

teach us to wait on thee as the farmers waits for the rain

Do not turn away forever but remember us once again - ho remember Jerusalem your Church and Israel you people
Remember me ho God - my righteousness

10 months and your god cannot tell you my address? LoLz.
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by MFGCooperative: 3:39am On Oct 31, 2022
LordReed:


10 months and your god cannot tell you my address? LoLz.

He's not a prophet. That's a place for prophets or those who have the gift of the word of knowledge. He can only know your location if he was specially given divine revelation. God is careful what He gives to men because He doesn't want us to be destroyed by pride

Start by looking the link below. You'll find your answers.

https://www.nairaland.com/3724794/diary-mad-prophet
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by LordReed(m): 5:53am On Oct 31, 2022
MFGCooperative:


He's not a prophet. That's a place for prophets or those who have the gift of the word of knowledge. He can only know your location if he was specially given divine revelation. God is careful what He gives to men because He doesn't want us to be destroyed by pride

Start by looking the link below. You'll find your answers.

https://www.nairaland.com/3724794/diary-mad-prophet

That doesn't concern me. All I want is for your god if he really exists to reveal my full home address to him.
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by MFGCooperative: 7:28am On Oct 31, 2022
LordReed:


That doesn't concern me. All I want is for your god if he really exists to reveal my full home address to him.

Whether He reveals it to him or not, that doesn't stop Him from existing. God is not your servant. He wouldn't meet you on your terms.
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by LordReed(m): 7:30am On Oct 31, 2022
MFGCooperative:


Whether He reveals it to him or not, that doesn't stop Him from existing. God is not your servant. He wouldn't meet you on your terms.

Whatever. A god that can't respond is as good as not existing.

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:47am On Oct 31, 2022
LordReed:

That doesn't concern me. All I want is for your god if he really exists to reveal my full home address to him.

Matthew 16:4 smiley

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by LordReed(m): 7:52am On Oct 31, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Matthew 16:4 smiley

Story. LoLz
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:53am On Oct 31, 2022
grin
LordReed:


Story. LoLz
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by Wilgrea7(m): 8:14am On Oct 31, 2022
Speaklove:

This is my reply .

It is not meant for lordreed alone but also for all those who upheld the same thought about god like himself.

Good day. Then in that case, permit me to weigh in on the discussion.

#speaklove#
You said
" A god that resides in your mind. "
#me
So if you claimed he resides in my mind then that should be one if the evidences that he is real because ;the mind is one of the four components of the soul .

1. Something residing in your mind is not evidence for it's existence. I believe someone pointed this out earlier.

To a lot of children, santa claus resides in their mind as a guy who will give them presents if they act nice, or coal if they act badly. Doesn't make the existence of santa claus any more true

2. You need to define what a soul is, and then show evidence of such.

The human soul is a living matter ,
And the mind is not an ordinary term to describe the thinking faculty of a human but a factual space of existence within the soul of man .

Secondly
You said "If your god was real you'd direct me to him but alas all you can do is offer supplication to your mental magic sky daddy"

#me
This is an indication that you've conceived a wrong or partial definition of the term or word "REALITY" within you .

"Reality" is not "Reality" because you can see or touch it ,rather it is about what you can or not see or what you can hear or not hear but
Which affect and influence your existence irrespective of your knowledge about it or acknowledgement of it .

This definition of reality is flawed, because it tries to make a case for mental concepts in the physical world.

Making reference to the santa claus example again. The mythical character influences the behavior of many little children.

A lot of children ensure to act nice so they get presents of Christmas, or avoid getting coal. Santa has a very real psychological effect on those children. That doesn't mean he exists in the real world.

So God was not or is not real because we think or imagined his existence but because we can see and feel his influence ,his power ,his dominion ,his artistic splendor displayed all over the wall of creation .

Creation itself, or more specifically, the universe we live in today, doesn't attest to any specific “God". It only attests to the fact that

1. It had a beginning/cause
2. It is incredibly complex, and quite honestly breathtaking.

The theist automatically assigns this to God. Not just any god/gods.. but one particular, male Judeo-Christian God

There is no evidence from our observation of the universe or creation, that points to a single creator, talkless of a male one.. or one who specifically cares about us humans

You still have a lot of work to do to prove that whatever caused the universe was indeed the Jewish God that allegedly came to earth in the form of a man to die for our “sins".

We ourselves are one of the proofs of the existence and reality of god -in that we are constantly faced with bewilderment every time we behold the streams of miraculous innovations and new findings from experiment conducted by this wonderful being called man .
So even the findings done through scientific experiments are not(or should not be) for discrediting the existence of God but for pointing to undeniable and factual traits that are no less than the handiwork if a higher being
Whose splendor are greater than anything humans can think or imagine ,and this being can not be called anything less than God-the Creator.

My point above also applies here. Nothing, and mean absolutely nothing, in human invention, points to any specific deity, or anything close enough to being called a “God".

In fact;sometimes it is the wonder that flows from the exploits of men that made some men to begun to call some of their fellow men "gods" .

Men who call other men gods do so in relation to the idea of a being more powerful than them in some way. It does not in any way prove the existence of a supreme God.

If a kid calls his elder brother “little santa" because he always buys him ice cream everyday, does that automatically mean Santa exists?


But they had no knowledge that man was made in the image and likeness of God.
This means: man was created to manifest the majesty of God to the whole of creation as a representative of God on earth .

You need to first prove the existence of a God, before you go ahead to prove the similarities between said God and humans.


You #Lordreed#
I believe you are here on nairaland .
I did not believe because I could see you
But I believed your existence here on nairaland because I can feel you and see the works of your hand .

You yourself are an expression of the reality of God.

Correction. You do not believe LordReed is here on nairaland. You know . There's a big difference.

Secondly, direct sight is not the only standard for judging reality. We can't see air, or radiation. Doesn't make them any less real.

You know Lordreed exists because nairaland was created to be used by conscious humans, and the posts and replies here point to conscious human behavior.


If you are looking for the evidence of the reality of God do not go far my dear friend
But look at yourself in a mirror .

You are fake as far as the mirror is concern because you don't live in the mirror ,
(same way god does not live in the world)

The mirror can't see you (even though you can see yourself in the mirror)
The mirror can't hear you (even though you can hear yourself speaking be for the mirror)

But you yourself know that you truly exist even though the mirror doubt or deny your existence .

The mirror can not see you
But you can see the mirror and even see yourself in the mirror .

The mirror is not conscious. It has no organs that can perceive light, or sound, or any other sort of stimuli conscious beings perceive. So your mirror analogy fails here.

The same way when God want to take a look at himself to see how he looks
He looks at "Lordreed" and smile and say how handsome I am .

But "lordeed" doesn't want to believe in god because he cant see God ,but God can see himself in" Lordreed" because God is real .

Lordreel -you are like " a mirror ",and God is like "Lordreed " who take a look at a mirror and see himself in the mirror even though the mirror might disagree , deny or doubt the existence of Lordreed".

So the mirror's inability to hear or see lordreed does not invalidate the existence of Lordreed .
The same way
Lordreed's inability to hear or see God does not invalidate the existence of God .

My replies above apply here as well.. so i won't bother repeating them again.

This is my reply to Lordreed and to every other person who upheld the same thought that he penned out as a question or argument for the nonexistence of God .

I appreciate your desire to prove the existence of your God. But unfortunately, you've still failed to do so, as per the points addressed above.

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by MFGCooperative: 9:35am On Oct 31, 2022
LordReed:


Whatever. A god that can't respond is as good as not existing.

It's your fate. You have the right to choose your fate.

God does not have to prove Himself to you. He'll punish you for denying Him anyway. He's mightier than you. He doesn't have to look for you at all. Who are you? Just make your choice and face the consequences of whatever choice you make. I already made mine, and I'm sure you've made yours. So, it's all balanced. Everyone to his own choices. I wouldn't blame your choice, neither should you blame mine. Everyone's choices shall speak when our eyes shall close in death.
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by LordReed(m): 9:38am On Oct 31, 2022
MFGCooperative:


It's your fate. You have the right to choose your fate.

God does not have to prove Himself to you. He'll punish you for denying Him anyway. He's mightier than you. He doesn't have to look for you at all. Who are you? Just make your choice and face the consequences of whatever choice you make. I already made mine, and I'm sure you've made yours. So, it's all balanced. Everyone to his own choices. I wouldn't blame your choice, neither should you blame mine. Everyone's choices shall speak when our eyes shall close in death.

LoLz. Very convenient that the consequence is after death when nobody knows anything anymore and can neither see or speak, very convenient. As convenient as a scam. Tehehehehe.

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Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by MFGCooperative: 9:43am On Oct 31, 2022
LordReed:


LoLz. Very convenient that the consequence is after death when nobody knows anything anymore and can neither see or speak, very convenient. As convenient as a scam. Tehehehehe.

Man is a spirit inhabiting a natural body. Once he leaves his body, he'll be fully responsible as a spirit for the things he did while in his natural body. If that looks like scam to you, then, let it be scam.
Re: My Open Reply To "Lordreed" On His Argument Concerning The Existence Of God by LordReed(m): 9:54am On Oct 31, 2022
MFGCooperative:


Man is a spirit inhabiting a natural body. Once he leaves his body, he'll be fully responsible as a spirit for the things he did while in his natural body. If that looks like scam to you, then, let it be scam.

Another thing you have no evidence for. Everything you are saying is just layers upon layers of nothing.

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