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Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:29am On Jan 21, 2022 |
achorladey: Since you're always here arguing about the doctrine of a particular religion and we all know that there is over 41,000 different sects all claiming denominations in Christianity with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines. Can you kindly tell us the name of your own Church? You're blessed as you do Sir! ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 6:37am On Jan 21, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: The same person that will go about calling me apostate, miscreant and all sort of names and label wants to know the name of my religion and states you are blessed ![]() ![]() ![]() Kindly tell us ko kindly type it ni? When you keep calling me names you are doing so in a kind way ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:41am On Jan 21, 2022 |
achorladey: What is the name of your Church? ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 6:50am On Jan 21, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Miscreant, insane, mad, asiere, asinwin and apostate non denominated Church ![]() ![]()
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Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:08am On Jan 21, 2022 |
achorladey: Thanks for the highlighted! So since the over 41,000 different sects claiming denominations in Christianity are having contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines, should we conclude that you've not found any doctrine that's of Christ in all these religions or you just don't like submitting yourself to rules binding on fellow believers? ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 7:39am On Jan 21, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Are the religious denominations manufacturers of the Doctrines like love God and love neighbor? Do I have to find such teachings or doctrines in a religious denominations or organisation? A. Yes B. No Do I look like a lawless person or must I submit to the rules of religious organization or denominations before I get called a lawful person? When people leave the religious organization you belong following their policies to stop associations with them are such persons lawless or carrying out lawlessness? Answer and let your words hit you back following your numerous antecedents here. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:52am On Jan 21, 2022 |
On faceless social media like this many claims they're believers in God/Christ but it takes real intelligence to expose them as wolves in sheep's clothing. The first thing about a true believer is acknowledgement of a Supreme Being and if anyone acknowledges the supreme being then such a person can't be isolated in faith, you must have fellow humans (beings) like you who truly submit to that Being you revere as Supreme, that's why a church or congregation is required. The authenticity of your revered Supreme Being is how all adherents are united in thought regarding right and wrong {John 17:22} in the absence of that then you can't truly claim you believe in the Supreme Being because the fact remains that you see yourself as supreme independent of any form of restraint. That's what Jesus meant when he said: “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!" Matthew 7:21-23 Of course Satan's agents will disguise as children of God {2Corinthians 11:14} but deep within them each don't want to be submissive to any God because they see themselves as Gods {Genesis 3:5} hence they open a large door for iniquity (lawlessness) {Matthew 7:23} it's like they're on a broad road so they can switch from on lane to another freely! Matthew 7:13-14 ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 8:11am On Jan 21, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: MaxInDHouse and his usual narratives ![]() ![]() ![]() On faceless social media like this many claims they're believers in God/Christ but it takes real intelligence to expose them as wolves in sheep's clothing. Just like you claim to believe in God and Christ ![]() ![]() ![]() The first thing about a true believer is acknowledgement of a Supreme Being and if anyone acknowledges the supreme being then such a person can't be isolated in faith, That's why their worship to that supreme being is in spirit and in truth ![]() ![]() ![]() you must have fellow human beings like you who truly submit to that Being you revere as Supreme, that's why a church or congregation is required. Reality says many submit to that supreme being and criteria for submitting to that being does not require setting up a church and orgnized religious denominations scattered all over the world. ![]() ![]() ![]() The authenticity of your revered Supreme Being is how all adherents are united in thought regarding right and wrong {John 17:22} in the absence of that then you can't truly claim you believe. Dedicated religious members of the Catholic Church are united in thought regarding right and wrong. Do you then regard their supreme being as AUTHENTIC? ![]() ![]() Of course Satan's agents will disguise as children of God {2Corinthians 11:14} but deep within them each don't want to be submissive to any God because they see themselves as Gods {Genesis 3:5} hence they open a large door for iniquity (lawlessness) {Matthew 7:23} it's like they're on a broad road so they can switch from on lane to another freely! Matthew 7:13-14 The last time I checked MaxInDHouse is not Jesus he goes about peddling lawlessness and calling others workers of LAWLESSNESS based on nothing or simply they do not dance to his tune. ![]() ![]() Full mode of operation ![]() ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:16am On Jan 21, 2022 |
achorladey:Actions speaks louder than words. When Jesus said "love God and neighbours" he only summarized over 600 laws given to the Israelites in just one phrase. So why was this two laws extended up to over 600? Well it's to help figure out lawless men in their society back then but since many Jews have gone to John the baptist to present themselves as willing Jews prepared to live by God's laws without being pestered. Jesus simplified things by giving them a summary of the whole laws! achorladey:YES! Matthew 16:6 achorladey:YES! Because at baptism a candidate signified with his action that he's prepared to start a new life living by the rules and regulations of the group that baptized him just as baptismal certificates approaching John knows fully well that they're prepared to surrender willingly to all the laws binding on fellow Jews. So when Peter said "get baptized in the name of Jesus Christ" {Act 2:38} he is implying that his listeners must surrender to all the rules binding on Christ's followers {John 15:13} and anyone found disobeying be EXCOMMUNICATED! 1Corinthians 5:8-13 achorladey:YES! God's word says we must not greet them again {Romans 16:17; 2John 1:10-11} because they've proved to be unfaithful after knowing what is good and vowing to live for the rest of their life in harmony with what they've learned {Ecclesiastes 5:4} their turning makes them worthless from the viewpoint of our Master Lord and King! Luke 9:62 achorladey: I have answered using God's word as the basis for what i believe. Can you also do the same instead of talking about what i believe? Please present what you believe using God's word to substantiate for us to know why your submission is of God! ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 8:28am On Jan 21, 2022 |
Thanks bro. You know my aim is to get someone to the Truth, so one has to be cool, patient and that. But I'll still like to know what the complete teaching is and the church you belong to. That'll be fair since you know im a JW to be. tctrills: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:30am On Jan 21, 2022 |
When i ignore you it's because there is no one around that needs to distinguish between true believers (sheep) and disguised unbelievers (goats). But today i will respond to all your posts because of the interested one (Cornelboy) Matthew 18:6 ![]() achorladey:This is a LIE! Catholics in one country often carried weapons to KILL fellow Catholics in another country, this shows they are NOT UNITED in thought regarding right and wrong! achorladey:Workers of lawlessness needs to be exposed! If you're not one of them please present a group of people or religious organization with which you're bound to the same line of thought regarding right and wrong! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 8:35am On Jan 21, 2022 |
How is that a foolish question bro? It's a simple question and you might choose not to tell me. Well you obviously know i believe and practice the JW doctrine and I'm currently studying with them. achorladey: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:37am On Jan 21, 2022 |
Lawless men hiding behind Satan's system in the name of DENOMINATIONS! Jesus Christ is one man and he prayed fervently to his father for all his disciples to have the same line of thought {John 17:20-23} so whatever opens a door for contradictions is of Satan the Devil, that's why lawless men love that system where they'll switch freely from one doctrine to another depending on whatever soothes their liken {Matthew 7:13-14} but at the same time they want to claim they're still worshipers of the same God with the religion they disowned! ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 8:39am On Jan 21, 2022 |
Okay but don't you have a church? At least their doctrines would have influenced your opinion here. tctrills: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 8:49am On Jan 21, 2022 |
I'll like to go and read about Apostates. It's not their modulus operandi, just that we all are different from each other. Everyone should learn to be cool. But the fact is the truth of God should be one, not different beliefs out there in Christianity. achorladey: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 8:53am On Jan 21, 2022 |
We were both contending that remains the fact. I said it's this but you said it's not. Abeg let's be straightforward now. Its not like i was fighting you and you cross your arm. achorladey: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:24am On Jan 21, 2022 |
cornelboy: The highlighted is the bone of contention. Different sects claiming denominations in Christianity with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines doesn't mean anything to them as long as all the different religions lay low underG but against the group standing tall above all {Matthew 5:14-16} they are battle prepared to criticize with all their vigor. What really baffles me is the way they hide under the none-denominations stuff yet they're out to criticize doctrines. To illustrate, let's take the countries in the world as examples of different sects and their constitutions as doctrines. If you ask any of these lawless men to speak of the country of their choice they will spend the whole day telling you how one country's policy is fair to all concerned but when it's time to talk about God they don't want to hear anything call rules. How can someone say he doesn't belong to any country yet he wants to criticize countries punishing offenders for going against their constitution! ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by tctrills: 9:51am On Jan 21, 2022 |
cornelboy:Do you think I learnt that meat contains blood in church? |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by tctrills: 9:55am On Jan 21, 2022 |
cornelboy:Sorry bro, I don't discuss my personal religion here. I only discuss doctrines and principles. And I don't think the JW is the worst church. They have their good points. I do not want to see this forum as a place for marketing any particular church. So, my brother, you may not want to bring up your church here but if you do, you should be ready to hear from me. I would be using the bible to question your opinions. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by tctrills: 10:07am On Jan 21, 2022 |
cornelboy:I noticed one of your JW brothers asking you to be careful of me and I laugh. He might be right though. I would always tell you my opinion even when it's against your religion. I would ask you questions and if you are a fanatic, you would end up hating me like that your brother. I would continually ask you to prove your point from the Bible. I see you after a few debates getting to hate me like that your brother. see, this is very simple. when you come out and tell others that they are false and only you have a monopoly of the truth, I guess they are entitled to ask you questions. And you don't end up hating them when you cant answer. Let me give you an example. One of your people openly called the catholic church the church of the devil. I then reminded him that the bible he uses and believes was put together by the Catholics and the devil is not capable of any good thing so If you call the Catholics to question, you also have to call their bible to question. Your brother went totally crazy because of this. i had to leave him alone for his own good. 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:51am On Jan 21, 2022 |
tctrills: I don't hate righteousness, what i detest is when lawlessness joins hands with hypocrisy! If you're here to criticize God's word as an atheist i'll welcome you with open arms since you don't uphold any form of teaching, but when you come in to criticize organized form of worship yet claiming you also believe in God and you're not ready to present a better option then i will call you "an agent of Satan" because that's the only Bible character who wants everyone to be independent of organized form of worship! John 8:44 compare to Genesis 3:4-5 ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 11:08am On Jan 21, 2022 |
tctrills: You see there's difference in composing the Bible and compiling it. The Catholic didn't write the bible. There was a time they hid the bible from the masses and they were able to spread their lies. If you don't believe in Trinity, you can't believe Mary as the mother of God. They have done more harm than good to Christianity. The first apostles and early church didn't believe in hell fire as a place of suffering after death. Paul, Peter and others didn't preach and warn people about hell. |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 11:12am On Jan 21, 2022 |
tctrills:What's your religion, are you a Muslim or a Catholic? And what's the complete teaching? |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by tctrills: 11:15am On Jan 21, 2022 |
cornelboy:You are right, they did not write the bible but they decided what books should be in the bible as we know it today. Remember, there were so many books but the Catholics decided to bring some together and give us the bible as we know it now. And I would love to have this discussion with you about hell 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 11:27am On Jan 21, 2022 |
Who appointed you as the moderator? Lol. You can use the Bible to prove Trinity without using ideas outside it? We will see in my next post about Trinity. tctrills: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 11:38am On Jan 21, 2022 |
cornelboy: Simple as it is, do you see me quote the law on blood in the first place? Who brought the law of blood into the discussion in the first place? Its not like i was fighting you and you cross your arm. I am not in an armament race with you ![]() ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 11:39am On Jan 21, 2022 |
Do you know Martin Luther? I respect him a lot for what he did to make the bible available for everyone. Catholicism can't be that same religion the early church practice ![]() tctrills: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 11:43am On Jan 21, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: That's what happens when you keep placing unnecessary remarks and embargo on. People, you have to keep watching your back and suspicious and suspicion everywhere ![]() ![]() |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by cornelboy(f): 11:43am On Jan 21, 2022 |
Na your problem o cos i didn't invite you, everyone was giving his own opinion and i was supporting mine. Nobody was contending with anybody. Biko achorladey: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 11:46am On Jan 21, 2022 |
cornelboy: Which came first, Catholicism or Martin Luther? Do you respect the Catholic too for their works regarding the Bible too? |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by achorladey: 11:49am On Jan 21, 2022 |
cornelboy: It is a a forum, nairaland forum. Understand what it is. You don't have to invite me. I have only brought a scripture cited into close examination. Learn. |
Re: Are Jehovah Witnesses Right About Their Belief Against Blood Transfusion? by tctrills: 11:54am On Jan 21, 2022 |
cornelboy:That's the point. Let's assume you are right. Yet the bible as we know it was collected and abridged by them. The Catholics decided what got into the bible. they decided to make the new testament 27 books even though many more books were written by the apostles. So if you think they are really of the devil how come you are comfortable believing their bible. That's the point I am making. We criticize the Catholics but we somehow believe they did right with the bible. Somehow, you believe the Catholics were right in omitting so many books from the bible |
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