ubunja:
you've explained well. Cold approaching is about phone numbers.
Now, I'm explaining to you. Being Chosen is about sex. And in Chosen we give phone numbers we don't take them.
I have realized we're in different worlds. You're after phone numbers,, while I'm after pussy. Success to me is sex, not a phone number. Why the hell will I chase a phone number? You're literally on the wrong thread man.

After numbers?
And the numbers don't generate pvssy neh?
What sorta fvckery is this?
Let's simply agree to disagree mbok
I take GOD beg you

Raalsalghul:


What are your thoughts on recommendations?

I know some guys don't fancy it because it kind of makes them look like a coward or sissy and it's also kind of old-fashioned but I've discovered it has a higher success rate than cold approach.

Reason being that the person recommending you for example her friend, relative or sister will divulge some information about your person which the Lady won't be able to gauge immediately from cold approach and get her interested.

Another added advantage is that peradventure she rejects, it won't hurt as much because the communication wasn't personal in the first place.

It has its own demerits too, but in my opinion better than cold approach.

Ahhhh recommendations!! Totally love them!!!!!! Reminds me of that miseducation I never got to publish titled "Approaching Girls With Minimal Risk Of Rejection"

It's a very interesting topic this one. Especially since I got my very first GF via recommendations back in the day. It's life on easy mode. Can easily turn any guy into a player.

Dizzyyish:
Hmm... so if man needs not 'respect' from woman he has no need for a relationship, unless he expects "love" in place of respect?

The context was for marriage bro.
You need to understand it in context.

LordIsaac:

Food for thought, indeed! And since they claim we are equal before God, I wonder why Christ chose 12 only male disciples.....

I think they say that "equality" thing because it sounds good. Throughout nature, male and female are not equal. One must be dominant and the other submissive.

There are few species where the female is dominant like hyenas and praying mantis but for the vast majority of other species males are dominant, including humans. This is a hard pill for (modern) women to swallow---understandably---but it is what it is.

It's just that now women and men who reason like women are pushing this "equality" narrative, unbeknownst to said men, men and women are different in several fundamental levels, hence; true equality can never be achieved. They're simply using the narrative to transfer power to the other side.

Tonnyray:
The context was for marriage bro.
You need to understand it in context.

I see..

ubunja:
Ahhhh recommendations!! Totally love them!!!!!! Reminds me of that miseducation I never got to publish titled "Approaching Girls With Minimal Risk Of Rejection"

It's a very interesting topic this one. Especially since I got my very first GF via recommendations back in the day. It's life on easy mode. Can easily turn any guy into a player.

I honestly don't know why a lot of guys frown at it and think it's old-fashioned: maybe it kind of undermines their ego.

Abeg share the miseducation.

Martinez39s:
The voice note which everyone is using as irrefutable evidence of Mason's guilty could have featured someone else with a similar voice. Even if it was Mason's voice, it could have been taken out of context. Also, women (and men) have inflicted injuries on themselves to frame people up. There are even cases of women who poured acid on themselves and blamed someone else; read up on acid attack hoaxes. Remember that for someone of Mason's status, a girl might not easily want to let go.

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(1) In this 7-minutes video, which I will urge everyone to watch to open their eyes, an abusive wife inflicted injuries on herself to frame her husband, fooled the police and sent her husband to jail. She fooled the police so well that the police helped her packed her things and some of the husband's stuff (which she claimed belonged her) as she was leaving. Unknown to her, CCTV footage showed she inflicted the wounds on herself and CCTV footages captured other events.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJwsIB0mwLk

(2) In this four-minute video, we see a millionaire's wife having a temper tantrum and hitting herself to frame the husband up. She got a self-inflicted black eye. All this came during their separation and her husband accused her of stealing millions worth of jewelleries from his home safe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM3gygwUFAw

(3) This three-minute long video shows a news report of Bethany Storro who poured acid on herself to frame up another woman. This was shown to be an acid attack hoax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjB0ssE0JQY

(4) Another acid attack hoax uncovered by the cops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcfZAhrJaW0

(5) Woman stabs herself to claim self defence as she kills husband.

Amber Heard did same with Johnny Depp and ruined his career.

Her own case was even makeup, where as she was the one abusing Johnny Depp.

If not for CCTV, Johnny would be in prison by now. If a wife could do that, how much more an estranged girlfriend.

This girl could be lying and incase she is, only God can help Greenwood if he doesn't have evidence to proof otherwise.

Tombrown3:


Yeah, have a friend who does more if the cold chasing stuff more than he gets laid. He sees it as flexing since he's good looking and hardly get turned down when he request for a girl's number.

The short story is, he hardly every get to fucck this girls, after wasting time and money on airtime and WhatsApp chat. Lol...

I keep asking him the aim of it all since he only ends up wasting his time and making these bitches feel valuable than they are worth.

Tony's comments totally took me by surprise!! .. These fellas are hooked on the chase. More than the actual outcome. All this time I thought we were talking about fuccing hoes but guys talking about getting phone numbers. I'm still shook!! Lol

ubunja:
I was actually thinking about this yesterday..... On this chosen/cold approach debate, it's like the guys who have never had a girl choose them and never experienced a relationship based on chosen, are the most hardcore opponents of it. All their life they've been choosing yet hate being chosen like the very plague. Why are they so opposed? It's an ego thing. The very thought of being chosen makes them feel weak and effeminate. It appears un-Alpha to them. Such guys have a lot of un-learning and deprogramming to do.

They might be opposed not because of ego but maybe because of jealousy,of the fact that no one has found them worthy of being chosen but all their previous relationships had them being the chasers! Anyone who has been chosen before, automatically knows it is better than chasing after someone who doesn't really send you and who can use your chasing against you to manipulate you!

ubunja:
Tony's comments totally took me by surprised.. These fellas are hooked on the chase. More than the actual outcome. All this time I thought we were talking about fuccing hoes but guys talking about getting phone numbers. I'm still shook!! Lol

You really only had to do due diligence in reading before quoting. That's the least one would've expected of you.
The topic was cold approaching, you butted in with your own topic from the blues citing Di Caprio and all what not and now you're "shook"
Like for real?
And as it pertains to fvcking hoes, unfortunately it's the internet and privacies must be respected otherwise it'd have been nice to compare body counts and quality of hoes in question with evidence. The ones choosing you and the ones I point and kill.

Femzaremz:
They might be opposed not because of ego but maybe because of jealousy,of the fact that no one has found them worthy of being chosen but all their previous relationships had them being the chasers! Anyone who has been chosen before, automatically knows it is better than chasing after someone who doesn't really send you and who can use your chasing against you to manipulate you!

you make a lot of sense. Especially since a man can have lots of money but still have a low sense of self worth. It's really sad. No matter how much people think you're worth, if you yourself think you ain't worth shiit you'll never rise above mediocre.

I repeat, whatever you do in this life, Have fun.
Like my oga here will say, women are for fvcks and fun. Sheer entertainment nothing more.
If or when I decide to settle down in marriage that's when definite rules come into play.
That's my mantra as per women in a nutshell.
Forgive me if I live by my own fvcking rules.

This life no hard kobo.

Kellzzyy:

This is the plain truth.
Cold approach is nothing but pedestalising women.
It is from here that entitlement mentality springs up. This is the very root of it all.
It doesn't make any sense at all.

Why go through the stress of cold approach when you can invest in yourself - physically, mentally, financially - and see them begin to gradually revolve around you, then as the chosen one, things get easier for you.

Only lack of sexual control will make a redpill guy decide to cold-approach a seemingly hot lady.
She looks so hot and irresistible, you then decide to pedestalise her by walking up to her and toasting. Really, is she the only hot girl you've ever met?
Anybody who HOLISTICALLY invests in himself well enough will get chosen by even the so-called hot girls, sooner or later.

Exactly bro

Any girl waiting for me to approach her will die at 90 and I won't even say hi

Kellzzyy:

This is the plain truth.
Cold approach is nothing but pedestalising women.
It is from here that entitlement mentality springs up. This is the very root of it all.
It doesn't make any sense at all.

Why go through the stress of cold approach when you can invest in yourself - physically, mentally, financially - and see them begin to gradually revolve around you, then as the chosen one, things get easier for you.

Only lack of sexual control will make a redpill guy decide to cold-approach a seemingly hot lady.
She looks so hot and irresistible, you then decide to pedestalise her by walking up to her and toasting. Really, is she the only hot girl you've ever met?
Anybody who HOLISTICALLY invests in himself well enough will get chosen by even the so-called hot girls, sooner or later.

Well, cold approaching a woman is not automatically pedestalising her. What you say to her is what determines whether or not you're pedestalising her.
We are humans, as such, get attracted to one another. What's the point of being in self-denial? If you go out and, somewhere, you see a lady that catches your eye, feel free to go and talk to her if you're in the mood, instead of eyeing her from afar waiting for her to choose you, a stranger (which rarely happens).
For instance, there is nothing wrong with walking up to an attractive lady and telling her "we should get to know eachother". If she says no, you move on. You haven't pedastalised her. You were just being sociable. We are social beings, so we should feel free to interact with whoever we want without considering it as a big deal.

However, there is a time and place for cold approach. There is also a time and place for hot approach.

Cold approaches are for times when and places where you're not really known. Hot approaches are for times when and places where You are known.
Either of the two situations you find yourself in should determine the approach to be used.

Junnior:
Well, cold approaching a woman is not automatically pedestalising her. What you say to her is what determines whether or not you're pedestalising her.
We are humans, as such, get attracted to one another. What's the point of being in self-denial? If you go out and, somewhere, you see a lady that catches your eye, feel free to go and talk to her if you're in the mood, instead of eyeing her from afar waiting for her to choose you, a stranger (which rarely happens).
For instance, there is nothing wrong with walking up to an attractive lady and telling her "we should get to know eachother". If she says no, you move on. You haven't pedastalised her. You were just being sociable. We are social beings, so we should feel free to interact with whoever we want without considering it as a big deal.

However, there is a time and place for cold approach. There is also a time and place for hot approach.

Cold approaches are for times when and places where you're not really known. Hot approaches are for times when and places where You are known.
Either of the two situations you find yourself in should determine the approach to be used.

You'll soon be labelled a simp or blue-pilled or my alternate.
Watch this space.

Karleb:
Amber Heard did same with Johnny Depp and ruined his career.

Her own case was even makeup, where as she was the one abusing Johnny Depp.

If not for CCTV, Johnny would be in prison by now. If a wife could do that, how much more an estranged girlfriend.

This girl could be lying and incase she is, only God can help Greenwood if he doesn't have evidence to proof otherwise.

Even though the presumption of innocence until proof of guilt, just like freedom speech and expression, is one of the core principles upon which western civilisation is built, it happens that men are guilty until proven innocent in cases like these.

Junnior:

Well, cold approaching a woman is not automatically pedestalising her. What you say to her is what determines whether or not you're pedestalising her.
We are humans, as such, get attracted to one another. What's the point of being in self-denial? If you go out and, somewhere, you see a lady that catches your eye, feel free to go and talk to her if you're in the mood, instead of eyeing her from afar waiting for her to choose you, a stranger (which rarely happens).
For instance, there is nothing wrong with walking up to an attractive lady and telling her "we should get to know eachother". If she says no, you move on. You haven't pedastalised her. You were just being sociable. We are social beings, so we should feel free to interact with whoever we want without considering it as a big deal.

However, there is a time and place for cold approach. There is also a time and place for hot approach.

Cold approaches are for times when and places where you're not really known. Hot approaches are for times when and places where You are known.
Either of the two situations you find yourself in should determine the approach to be used.

leave cold approaching to women.

NeroStealth01:
If you have ever been chosen by a woman before even if it is just once, you will never ever find cold approaching interesting. It would be a great waste of your precious time.

If a woman has ever wanted you so badly before, you will know that women also SIMP in great heights as bluePILLED men.
A woman who chooses you will call you every blessed day without even worrying or complaining about you not reciprocating.

If you have experienced being chosen before, cold approaching will bore you. Trying to impress a girl to like you will feel so stupid and abnormal.

You will never have to use a punch a line when she chooses you. You can do no wrong in the face of a woman who chooses you.
She will hug you on the first date. If you try to kiss her she won't resist you. She won't make you wait for anything.

When she chooses you, you don't have to take her to a fancy restaurant to impress her. Merely seeing your face alone she is already impressed, to the extent that she won't even notice the environment of the first date.

When you have experienced being chosen, you will never ever deal with low interest women again.

So much to talk about so little time. With all that has been preached here, there is still a lot to be learned.
If you want to do things the way you have always done it before coming to the REDPILL, then there is no reason to be here.

#TAKETHEREDPILL
#STAYREDPILLED
#STAYCOLD

The cold approach vs the hot approach (being chosen) is similar to a worker(A man who works for his money ie a salary earner) vs a serial entrepreneur(A man whose money works for him).

THE WORKER:
Wakes up in morning, brushes his teeth, takes his bath, goes to work, does the proverbial 9am - 5pm work time. In this time, he might have to engage "annoying customers", take shit from his boss, run errands, and other mind numbing tasks ALL FOR THE SAKE OF EARNING A SALARY AT THE END OF THE MONTH.
In the same manner, this is similar to a man who chases women of his interest.
He spots this particular woman, creates a strategy on how to move to her, woo her, collect her phone number, impress her(aka simp for her lol). In this time, he might have to go through not getting good responses from the woman, unnecessary cash requests, and other mind numbing issues from this woman ALL FOR THE SAKE OF GETTING SOME PUSSY.
If there's one thing similar between both of them, it's that they both expend a lot of energy just to get scraps. But there's a better alternative:

THE SERIAL ENTREPRENEUR:
He spends a good amount of time mastering his business, making sure his business fulfills a need, can scale to a lot of people, has total control of the business, and the best part, knowing how to dissociate himself from his business such that wherever he is and whatever his doing, the money keeps rolling in, such that he could go for a vacation and the money keeps coming in, he could be taking a sh*t in the toilet and the credit alerts keep coming in.
In the same manner, this is similar to the man who's aware of the game(mastered the game) and the art of being chosen who knows he doesn't have to go through the stress of the "woman chaser", he knows he doesn't have to wait till the end of the month to earn his salary (get some pvssy), he knows that he gives his phone number not collect phone number (just to make sure the woman is really interested in him), he knows if a woman chooses him and is really interested in him, HE KNOWS PVSSY CAN COME ANY TIME, ANY DAY AND NOT AT THE END OF THE MONTH LIKE THE SALARY EARNER.

As for me, I have vowed a long time ago never to do the cold approach and accept the "thought process" of the serial entrepreneur(the game aware man) and the rest is history!.

ubunja:
leave cold approaching to women.

Over 90% of women don't even have the balls to cold approach guys. So, I see nothing wrong in guys doing it, provided they don't kiss ass while at it. I believe it's mostly for fun though.

Do you know that if most guys quit cold approach, their body count would drastically reduce? They would be greatly limiting themselves to opportunities.
So, it's important that we find a way to balance doing both cold and hot approach concurrently and within the available time.

We can all agree to disagree.


Or We can keep at this till we wear each other out.



But let's keep the discussion civil, men should not act bitchy and emotional to get their point across, at the end of the day, a man gotta do what a man gotta do!



Shalom.

The issue with cold approaching is you stand a risk of making common mistakes that will kill your chances if you’re not experienced. She’s a strange girl to you , you’re a strange guy to her, everything is on a blank slate hence her mindset is “You’ve approached me cos you think I’m pretty, now impress me” ,if you’re not on top of your PUA grind you stand the risk of qualifying yourself, chasing, getting easily frustrated by her unreceptive attitude or body language or falling in for her manipulative behavior because a girl that is approached has her brain in default “chase me mode” or she takes her validation from you and she’s immediately done with you on the spot. Worst still she’s materialistic and she disqualifies you instantly cos you’re not holding an iPhone 13. There are lots of other variables involved too. The success rate for cold approach is extremely low hence why it’s called a number’s game. Cold approach was easier back in the day when we approach a girl in the hood and talk to her for hours while standing on the same spot and after that we collect her phone number to continue with free mtn2mtn calls, we call it “toasting” then. You cold approach now and she’ll most likely give you her phone number so you can patronize the bags and wigs she sells on her business WhatsApp. All of these is most likely centered on Nigerian girls though. I’ve only done one cold approach in my life and i was successful but it’s not my thing.

ubunja:
you make a lot of sense. Especially since a man can have lots of money but still have a low sense of self worth. It's really sad. No matter how much people think you're worth, if you yourself think you ain't worth shiit you'll never rise above mediocre.

I respect you bro, you ain't sentimental but rather, you work with facts only.

Calibrator:
We can all agree to disagree.


Or We can keep at this till we wear each other out.



But let's keep the discussion civil, men should not act bitchy and emotional to get their point across, at the end of the day, a man gotta do what a man gotta do!



Shalom.

Exactly each man to his own way of interpreting the redpill. They should cut the slack

Calibrator:
We can all agree to disagree.

Or We can keep at this till we wear each other out.

But let's keep the discussion civil, men should not act bitchy and emotional to get their point across, at the end of the day, a man gotta do what a man gotta do!

Shalom.

I concur! Men who do this are childish and they demonstrate emotional incontinence. Also, people must watch out for the need to prove a point by all means (even when you start twisting/changing your intended argument and throwing anything hoping something will stick). Highest, agree to disagree if you are convinced of your point and don't want to change. Anyway, as I always said, discussions will come and go... and the thread will move on.

ubunja:
leave cold approaching to women.

They'll never learn, don't bother yourself

For instance, you go to a party where you hardly know anyone but your friend who invited you. During the party, your friend goes away to chill with his babe, leaving you all by yourself. Meanwhile, you've sighted a number of hot bannies in the party. What will you do?
Will you sit there all by yourself waiting to be chosen? Chances are, if you're not with someone, you will be avoided.
You will have to simply socialize by cold approaching one of those bannies first. From there, if you're cool, other chics will start noticing you and start giving you signals which will then lead to hot approach.

So, you see? Men should find a way to balance doing both cold and hot approach.

PS: in order not to get burnt, cold approach should not be taken seriously.

enajite01:
DM for yr digital portrait

Seriously bro?

On a redpill thread?

luminouz:


Seriously bro?

On a redpill thread?

The report button is there for a reason.

Junnior:


Over 90% of women don't even have the balls to cold approach guys. So, I see nothing wrong in guys doing it, provided they don't kiss ass while at it. I believe it's mostly for fun though.

Do you know that if most guys quit cold approach, their body count would drastically reduce? They would be greatly limiting themselves to opportunities.
So, it's important that we find a way to balance doing both cold and hot approach concurrently and within the available time.

the question you need to ask is HOW DO WOMEN COLD APPROACH.

And no,, cold approaching doesn't raise body count.

Junnior:


Over 90% of women don't even have the balls to cold approach guys. So, I see nothing wrong in guys doing it, provided they don't kiss ass while at it. I believe it's mostly for fun though.

Do you know that if most guys quit cold approach, their body count would drastically reduce? They would be greatly limiting themselves to opportunities.
So, it's important that we find a way to balance doing both cold and hot approach concurrently and within the available time.

Bro, this your statistics dey fear me o!.

That's why we talk about green lights. You obviously haven't mastered it.

Women will never directly approach you.

Stop dreaming