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Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by Conner44: 12:46am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy: KAI! F U N K E E E! 8 Likes |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by BKayy: 12:48am On Feb 11, 2022 |
PressMyButton:We are genetically flesh eaters according to you but in your own custom, that cannibalism is what differentiates that commoners from the Aristocrats. Your culture brought out a new dimension of meaning for Cannibalism. As for your Aso oké, I don't need to speak much but show you pictures because I can't be teaching you people your history and customs for free everyday on this forum. 14 Likes 1 Share
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Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by aribisala0(m): 12:53am On Feb 11, 2022 |
PressMyButton:They could be , I don't know but they could.. Assuming without conceding the photo is real in the 19th century women across all West Africa often were seen with their breasts exposed. The shame associated with that today is directly imported frrom Islam and Christianity. It is not indigenous and I do not share it. If you consider our weather and historical context you would know. After 4 centuries of slave trade across West Africa there were no textile mills anywhere. Textiles were made by a very expensive process and clothes as we know them today were not worn in the 19th century. We were first given shame and then textiles which were a significant ite of slave trade/exchange You assume the stools are "royal" . I don't know. Assumiing that is the case . The sacrilege you cite is not one I recognize. I do not see anything wrong with those pictures .They are an accurate reflection of that time. when Brassieres did not exist in West Africa . Curiosity and not denial is the way to deal with that. For me they are excellent photos of strong women with a regal beaing. 19 Likes 1 Share |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by Rossikk(m): 12:54am On Feb 11, 2022 |
peleson1: Wrong. Benin City was PLANNED and is nearly 1000 years older than Opobo. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by Rickmann: 12:54am On Feb 11, 2022 |
FreeStuffsNG: What do you know? History is teaching you what has been, even before ur fathers and you still disputing. People sef! 10 Likes |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by PressMyButton: 12:57am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy:Take a closer look at the chair, that was a royal stool in the olden days. In Yoruba culture, you rarely see Yoruba women on a royal stool. Except for a regent which was even uncommon among the Ijebu tradition. The picture could have emanated elsewhere from colonial era of Africa. You might not want to push your luck too far considering the fact that Ibo women were as much characteristically ugly till they had a mixed Gene through sexual slavery and rape by the whites slaves merchants and colonialists. No other women from other tribes were sexually dehumanized as ibo women. 24 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by BKayy: 1:04am On Feb 11, 2022 |
PressMyButton:I don't think you need to stretch this too far because it might prompt me to post the original pictures of how your monarchs (eg Prince Adeliayo of Abeokuta) dress before British social uplifting. Those are your people, stop denying them because of the way they dress. It your heritage, my dear Afonja. You might not want to push your luck too far considering the fact that Ibo women were as much characteristically ugly till they had a mixed Gene through sexual slavery and rape by the whites slaves merchants and colonialists. No other women from other tribes were sexually dehumanized as ibo women.This part is just pure jealousy. It is exactly like those that call tall people "dogo" or those that say "na fair you fair, you no fine" No matter how dumb any animal is, it must recognise the angelic beauty of Igbo female goddesses. Even racists recognised Igbo women's extraordinary beauty during slave trade. You know that because you tried to include what never happened to justify their intimidating beauty which is by adding a fallacy of imaginary rape and the other bullshit you wrote. Ok, if we are to play by that, why is it that your own Yoruba women were not raped? Is it because their outstanding ugliness couldn't allow a white rapist to rape them? Like their ugliness scare rapists away 29 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by PressMyButton: 1:06am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy:Don't be unfortunate, is the fabric in the first picture Aso oke? The second picture is a recent picture. Across the length and breath of Nigeria, Aso ebi has become a household name. Your posting a Northern lady on an Ankara fabric is a common practice in today's Nigeria. Ibo ladies are one of the highest consumers of Aso ebi too. Don't be dumb. 27 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by BKayy: 1:10am On Feb 11, 2022 |
PressMyButton:And the Prince of Abeokuta was wearing animal skin when Fulani was clothing Ilorin Yorubas with Aso oke. Do you know the problem with you people? Your media has lied so much to you people that you can no longer recognise your ancestors. Just look at the other one above arguing whether the Ijebu people he is looking at is Ijebu or not. Afonjas sef 14 Likes 1 Share
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Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by Conner44: 1:13am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy: ABAMENA! Bkayy you’ve presssss that guy button sotey e tear comot for him shirt Oh lawd, abeg somebody should call ambulance or carry wheelbarrow go check am for under bridge (since igbo man don buy him and him family house finish) 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by aribisala0(m): 1:15am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy:What do your photographs prove? 6 Likes |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by PressMyButton: 1:17am On Feb 11, 2022 |
aribisala0:We could cut down on the assumption a little and be more appropriate on what was obtainable at the time. Yoruba women much as I can tell were not found unclothed during colonial periods. I could hardly ever find pictures of them naked. The time is relative, some parts of West Africa, including the SW much as I know, have had weave fabrics before the arrival of the whites. 10 Likes |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by PressMyButton: 1:22am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy:This is just a rigmarole exercise. You haven't disproved anything just a ranting of consolation. 18 Likes |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by aribisala0(m): 1:23am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy:Nothing wrong in wearing animal skin . At any rate animal skin cannot be every day dress .It s ceremonial and widespread among royalty in Africa all across the continent Do not allow colonialism imbue you with false shame. Photographs are photographs you are posting them and telling us what they mean. How can one deduce Fulani was clothing anyone from those photos? The question is technology? What weaving technology is used for asooke and where is that located? Not projecting your own issues on to the innocent photo 19 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by BKayy: 1:30am On Feb 11, 2022 |
aribisala0:"Whenever an Afonja is cornered, he starts being reasonable" But you can't deceive me. If I don't know you people, I would have said that you should spread what you just posted to your brothers so they will stop being ashamed of their ancestors, stop claiming what isn't theirs and learn to promote who they are. I guess you are shocked as hell to see the pictures I dropped here because your media has so much lied to you that many of you don't even know what your ancestors looked like. Let me tell you one thing, no matter how you project Igbo olden days picture, no matter how it looks like, none of us will be surprised or at worst think of denying them like you Afonjas are doing in this thread. We admire our ancestors ingenuity and originality. For example, take a look at this beautiful Igbo mama rocking the original indigenous exclusive Igbo chair and our ancient anklets 16 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by Conner44: 1:31am On Feb 11, 2022 |
Bkayy rest You’ve won this round. They are clutching straws and waving white handkerchiefs lol Don’t worry the rest of us can clean up the mess 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by PressMyButton: 1:31am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy:So, what's your point?.. Is anyone in the pics naked? That's a clothing made of hides and skin. It exudes sophistication and warriors' regalia at the time. They had bows and arrows with a touch of patterned designs. Ibos were too cavemen to have had such. It is a type commonly found among the Zulus of South Africa. It's a privilege for ibos being in Nigeria. Our artistry and intelligence is rubbing off on your folklore heritage. Unfortunately, many ibos like you from the backwaters are still much ungrateful and unrefined beyond lies and falsehoods. 24 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by Conner44: 1:38am On Feb 11, 2022 |
PressMyButton: Wa Ogbeni you nor go go iron this ya shirt wey bkayy don rumple finish You still dey here dey run maat 11 Likes |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by PressMyButton: 1:40am On Feb 11, 2022 |
aribisala0:Bro... I mean... this dude should realize we ain't on a dumbsite like radio biafra where ipob airheads throw canard piles at each other. 20 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by BKayy: 1:43am On Feb 11, 2022 |
PressMyButton:LOL. No need to start lamenting. The reason why what is supposed to be your original ancestors pictures looks like mockery to you people is because you've lied so much about them that who they are is insulting to you. You lied that they were literally wearing suits like the thread you people tried to claim British building as Alaafins Palace until we brought the picture you see in this thread. The thread where you claimed the British styled building as Yoruba https://www.nairaland.com/6828741/throwback-photo-alaafin-oyo-diviner As for civilisation. The only one of us that brought civilisation to each other was us Igbo(Awka) bringing technology (advanced metal smiting) to you Afonjas. The receipt is below https://www.nairaland.com/6765286/early-igbo-sojourners-eastern-yorubaland As for leaving Nigeria. Both of us know that the only reason why you are against Biafra is that you know that your existence worth absolutely nothing without Ndigbo. Just like a Parasite, you Afonjas being in Nigeria is the greatest that will ever happen in your history. Enjoy it while it last 15 Likes 1 Share |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by aribisala0(m): 1:45am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy:I am not the one you were arguing with Forget about that talk about being cornered Iam always reasonable you are the emotional needy guy. I am educating you and I always do that politely My point is the photographs do not say what you claim they are and I am proud of those photos I Go and look at my posts . I said assuming without conceding they are Yoruba they could be . I see nothing wrong with those photos and indeed if they are Yoruba I would be proud. With regard to animal skin again it is not about being reasonable but educating you about the mind enslavement that Christianity and Westernization have done to you as Islam has done in the North. Why should I be ashamed of wearing Animal skin? That is what the wealthy of that time did As a historian I will not lie or twist facts if they are genuine. I have no need to run from the truth. It is what it is . We are not narcissists like you lot making up a fictional collective persona 15 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by Conner44: 1:46am On Feb 11, 2022 |
Bros bkayy abeg remember say mortuary don close oh Pity their family. The smell go too bad abeg 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by PressMyButton: 1:51am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy:After posing for a picture, she is then led into a waiting ship offshore as a sex slave. Your ancestors were caught up in every hook of the bait. The white men puts them on anklets to identify his own LovePeddler. You glorify slavery as a trait of inferiority complex passed down to you from birth. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by BKayy: 1:54am On Feb 11, 2022 |
aribisala0:I repeat "whenever an Afonja is cornered, he starts being reasonable" Until today do you know that 1. Your ancestors wore animal skin as recent as early 20th century? 2. Your Alaafin of Oyo lived inside grasses and palm fronds? 3. Alaafin wives barbed Chinese hairstyle? 4. Your women posed almost nude for camera? I don't blame you people but your media that has decieved you people to the extent that pictures of your ancestors is now insult to you people just like the aerial view of your cities. Today the same Yoruba man that tried to claim British building, that claims no history of nudity and animal skin clothing is saying that 1. Animal skin is fashionable 2. Exposed breast is ok Let me not talk about the other funny things you said. All thanks to my brain reformatting evidences. Isn't Nairaland wonderful? Ndi ara Would you mind reminding me what brought all these arguments/exposure/education? 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by aribisala0(m): 1:55am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy: You are on an ego trip Not shocked to see them I have seen them before ON NAAIRALAND You would be shocked what is on Nairaland My point is those particular pictures are GREAT The fact that you think you are shaming anyone tells me more about your psychological predicament than anything else Nudity specifically with regard to breast exposure was quite common across West Africa and many visitors recorded this e.g Ibn Batuta To deny this is childish and ignorant. Anyone who has studied history would know what technology existed in what era 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by PressMyButton: 1:57am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy:When have I insinuated that?.. Was suit a trend at the time?. Was there a technology for suit making?. So, when did I "literally" insinuated they were wearing a suit? I have since observed that you lots are all vain, empty boasting and full of fabrications. When cornered, you try wriggle out of your lies like a rattle snake. I have no words for you. 15 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by BKayy: 2:02am On Feb 11, 2022 |
PressMyButton:They say "Jewelleries bring out the insecurity in wretched people" The history of Yoruba poverty is now telling on your comment. My dear Afonja, those are anklets and believe it or not, they are Igbo owned and it is not worn by Women alone (I will post that of men). You know our accomplishments look so sophisticated that you savages devise various gossips to downgrade it, in a bid to make it look as if both of us are on the same level. There has never been anytime in history you broke people came close to Igbo wealth. If you can say such nonsense about our anklets, only God knows what you will say about these 11 Likes 1 Share
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Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by Conner44: 2:02am On Feb 11, 2022 |
Ahn ahn what is all this Dem Comot white handkerchief for pocket dey wave am, . . You comot eye Dem keep handkerchief carry white flag dey turn am for the air, . . . You throw away face Now dem don go hire ladder dey climb igbebu signboard with white paint, . . . Yet you still dey c0ck your gun. . . In fact bkayy you no dey go heaven again, i dey go write petition give saint Peter What rubbish. . . How can you be so wicked 8 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by aribisala0(m): 2:14am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy: You have condensed all your hatred into a long post I am not here to engage on all the nonsense you are saying My summary I do not not know the authenticity of those photos In terms of date or genuineness Assuming but not conceding they are real I have no problem with them especially the exposed breasts. From that century that was the case across West Africa. I have known that for decades .I do not know how old you are so maybe it is an exciting discovery for you but for me it is old news You are quite ignorant as well. He is not my Alaafin , for the record. But we are related and united. Animal skin is ceremonial . I have no problem with that .I am proud of that. I have seen it in other parts of Africa even to this day No one wears animal skin everyday. You said Alaafin lived inside such and such . Wife had Chinese hairstyle Not sure where to start from with all that nonsense I must say those photos are more attractive than any I have seen from your place from that time . So this juvenile attempt at jousting with me is doomed 16 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by BKayy: 2:15am On Feb 11, 2022 |
PressMyButton as promised, here are the pictures of Igbo men rocking the ancient Igbo anklets that made you speak in tongues. You know that poverty has tap root in Yorubaland. It has ancestors and kinsmen in Yorubaland to the extent that indigenous anklets prior to European contact looks like "American wonder" to you. Ancient Igbo people never dressed as poor and wretched as Yorubas. 10 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by PressMyButton: 2:18am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy:This is a different work of art from the earlier picture. Leg anklets, wrist anklets and finger rings became a thing in Nigeria after colonisation. The fashion accessories were exchanged for some slaves commodity. As a matter of fact, smelting pre colonial were not fashion intended but for Agriculture purposes. farm implements and later into some crude hunting tools. In contrast, bracelets, anklets came with the arrival of the whites. 14 Likes 1 Share |
Re: A School In Opobo In 1899 (Throwback Photo) by aribisala0(m): 2:24am On Feb 11, 2022 |
BKayy: There was no such transfer of technology That is a blatant lie You have no oral traditions about the accidental discovery at Igbo Ukwu so how you can wake up and claim to have tranferred technology to anyone is just bizarre. Technology you did not transfer ANYWHERE in Eboeland ? Not to Owerri Oguta Aba or anywhere? but to Yorubaland Foe all we know the stuff was Igala stuff from a period before they were forced out by later arrivals which would explain why there was no oral tradition or similar findings anywhere else What I see here is a strategy to tell so many lies hoping some will endure. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
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