Ibime:


That's the framework. We are saying the same thing. That's why I didn't want Benalvino chooking his mouth because he would not understand the context from his viewpoint.

But you won't too far comparing OANN.and MSNBC. To most of the world, MSNBC is left-centre.

I prefer watching ABC news personally if I want to see what's happening in Yankee without much agenda but it's almost impossible not to have agenda in Yankee, since everything is commercialised and polarisation sells, but most of the polarisation occured with the rise of Tea Party politics and reaction to it. Back in the day, I can watch CNN and see them supporting George Bush policies, not now.

I still disagree that Fox is centre-right. Fox has veered fully right with half of America steering hardly right during the Trump era. They have to satisfy their customers. Put it this way, many Fox Contributors are banned from the UK for hate speech. You can't be claiming centrist and considered too extreme for the UK such that a Conservative UK Govt will stop you from getting visa.

Shut your mouth. You don't know what you are saying. Msnbc is not leftwing because they don't support berny sanders. This is the kind of argument you are bringing to the table and you still want to claim I will not understand from my view point when it is you who does not know what he is saying.

You are still claiming they are fully right when they have both left and right wing host. Some of them are openly anti trump. Can you find any right wing host on msnbc? Or they are all fully nuts.

Ibime:


That's the framework. We are saying the same thing. That's why I didn't want Benalvino chooking his mouth because he would not understand the context from his viewpoint.

But you went too far comparing OANN and MSNBC. To most of the world, MSNBC is left-centre.

I prefer watching ABC news personally if I want to see what's happening in Yankee without much agenda but it's almost impossible not to have agenda in Yankee, since everything is commercialised and polarisation sells, but most of the polarisation occured with the rise of Tea Party politics and reaction to it. Back in the day, I can watch CNN and see them supporting George Bush policies, not now.

I still disagree that Fox is centre-right. Fox has veered fully right with half of America steering hardly right during the Trump era. They have to satisfy their customers. Put it this way, many Fox Contributors are banned from the UK for hate speech. You can't be claiming centrist and be considered too extreme for the UK such that a Conservative UK Govt will stop you from getting visa.

Programmings via Qanon andi conspiraci theory attaks, Russian job.

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raumdeuter:


Is there a country that is the economic opposite of Cuba and Venezuela?

Pinochets Chile, Perrons Argentina, Apartheid South Africa for example.

Ibime:


That's the framework. We are saying the same thing. That's why I didn't want Benalvino chooking his mouth because he would not understand the context from his viewpoint.

But you went too far comparing OANN and MSNBC. To most of the world, MSNBC is left-centre.

I prefer watching ABC news personally if I want to see what's happening in Yankee without much agenda but it's almost impossible not to have agenda in Yankee, since everything is commercialised and polarisation sells, but most of the polarisation occured with the rise of Tea Party politics and reaction to it. Back in the day, I can watch CNN and see them supporting George Bush policies, not now.

You sure you don't mean, they were supporting and pushing their own policy of increasing revenue and profit through Bush?

It's America Yo, as is said. Advertisers use their money to promotes what favours them, and globalisation, as in expansionism, favoured American money as there was nothing to invest in in America.

If you think Bush had policies, I really suggest you play with a puppet on a string.

Ibime:
Put it this way, many Fox Contributors are banned from the UK for hate speech. You can't be claiming centrist and be considered too extreme for the UK such that a Conservative UK Govt will stop you from getting visa.

Bloody despots! Funny thing was this same law was to ban Islamic hate speech imams.

Ibime:


That's the framework. We are saying the same thing. That's why I didn't want Benalvino chooking his mouth because he would not understand the context from his viewpoint.

But you went too far comparing OANN and MSNBC. To most of the world, MSNBC is left-centre.

I prefer watching ABC news personally if I want to see what's happening in Yankee without much agenda but it's almost impossible not to have agenda in Yankee, since everything is commercialised and polarisation sells, but most of the polarisation occured with the rise of Tea Party politics and reaction to it. Back in the day, I can watch CNN and see them supporting George Bush policies, not now.

I still disagree that Fox is centre-right. Fox has veered fully right with half of America steering hardly right during the Trump era. They have to satisfy their customers. Put it this way, many Fox Contributors are banned from the UK for hate speech. You can't be claiming centrist and be considered too extreme for the UK such that a Conservative UK Govt will stop you from getting visa.

Cable news is basically divided into News and Opinions
Any Network that does more Opinion than news is simply a propaganda network
If you ask OANN or MSNBC or even RT in Russia or Cuba state media they will say they are fair reporting, No news agency will admit that they are biased. Its an unbiased viewer that will make that deduction

I watch both Fox and CNN and sieve out the news from the Opinions, I will never watch MSNBC and OANN because they are crazy

The political climate in recent years has polarized everything even political discourse, That is why CNN left slant has become more obvious just like Fox right slat has become more obvious. When I first came to America in the Bush times You only need to watch CNN for 2hours before you can deduce that they didn't like Bush very much a lot of their news were very critical of him, Same with Fox and Obama and those were pre Tea Party days

With MSNBC and OANN you will know this immediately even centrist candidates are vilified with venom, You will see MSNBC characterize Bush as a war criminal and dumb, McCain is a geriatric, Villify Romney as a Vulture capitalist, Mormon cultist, while OANN can go as far as saying Hillary eats babies, Biden is a enemy agent and senile. Obama is antiChrist

McCain, Bush Biden Obama Romney Hillary are as centrist as you can get in a democracy

budaatum:




If you think Bush had policies, I really suggest you play with a puppet on a string.

Bush had many decent internal policies and many favourable policies toward Africa for one. Debt forgiveness being the prime and indisputable example.

His disastrous Middle Eastern policies overshadowed them.

Ibime:


Pinochets Chile, Perrons Argentina, Apartheid South Africa for example.

Are these extreme capitalist societies like Cuba and Venezuela are extreme communist societies?

Ibime:


Bush had many decent internal policies and many favourable policies toward Africa for one. Debt forgiveness being the prime and indisputable example.

His disastrous Middle Eastern policies overshadowed them.

G. W Bush is my favourite president of all time. He had many favourable policies to Africa. The middle east policies I dont blame him one bit for it. He did what any leader will do when terrorist fly planes into your country to kill your citizens on your soil

DissTroy:


You care about Hunter Biden. But you are a hypocrite and pathological liar.

You claim your reason for not caring is because Hunter Biden is not the POTUS or elected official so what he does (even in government-backed capacity) doesn't matter to you.

Here you are in May 2021 going on about Donald Trump Jnr, Donald Trump's son, calling him corrupt and a criminal and asking for his head. Even though:

1. DT Jnr isn't an elected official;
2. His father isn't the POTUS any longer;

It amuses me that you think you can block buda into your black and white world, diss. Complexity is befuddling to some.

Donald John Trump Jr. has engaged in attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election following his father's electoral defeat; he has promoted the stolen election conspiracy theory and advocated "total war" instead of completion of vote counting.[11][12] He spoke at the rally that led to the storming of the Capitol, where he threatened Trump's opponents that "we're coming for you."[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_Jr.

buda does "care about Donald Trump Jnr, Donald Trump's son"!

budaatum:


It amuses me that you think you can block buda into your black and white world, diss. Complexity is befuddling to some.



buda does "care about Donald Trump Jnr, Donald Trump's son"!

No comments from me on this . Quoting Wikipedia of all other sources?

raumdeuter:


G. W Bush is my favourite president of all time. He had many favourable policies to Africa. The middle east policies I dont blame him one bit for it. He did what any leader will do when terrorist fly planes into your country to kill your citizens on your soil

Democrats vilified Bush for every action he took.
With Trump it became worse. Everyone joined in frustrating him.
I think Trump was the best ever.
For instance he told the Europeans to not get hooked to the Russian energy . They laughed at him. Now Putin wants to be paid in roubles. Pegged to gold that he has been accumulating.

raumdeuter:


G. W Bush is my favourite president of all time. He had many favourable policies to Africa. The middle east policies I dont blame him one bit for it. He did what any leader will do when terrorist fly planes into your country to kill your citizens on your soil

Except Iraq war where he brought his personal family beef into National policy

raumdeuter:


Are these extreme capitalist societies like Cuba and Venezuela are extreme communist societies?

Yep, to the extent of using repression and murder to enforce their goals just like Cuba and Venezuela

basilico:


No comments from me on this . Quoting Wikipedia of all other sources?

It is not quoted as a source, dummy, they are reasons, and could have come from anywhere and still are my reasons for caring.

As for insignificant coke sniffing hunter, let me know when he becomes his father's adviser so I might care please.

basilico:


No comments from me on this . Quoting Wikipedia of all other sources?

Illiterate Isa fery bad.

Ya ah nat go mo dani high school

Kikikikikikiki

Ibime:
Yep, to the extent of using repression and murder to enforce their goals just like Cuba and Venezuela

I don't know about the extreme capitalist policies of Pinochet or Perron

Cuba and Venezuela are economically left even though Many Latin American countries are socially right

So talking about economy strictly, I dont know any country that is the polar opposite of Cuba

budaatum:


It is not quoted as a source, dummy, they are reasons, and could have come from anywhere and still are my reasons for caring.

As for insignificant coke sniffing hunter, let me know when he becomes his father's adviser so I might care please.

When it comes to matters that are not political Wikipedia is a good source
I am just advicing you never to trust Wikipedia on matters political.
For instance they have extensive articles on water treatment. Those I trust.
When it comes to Drumph the site goes haywire.

Anyway always seek the truth. If Seun made a mod I would ban you


You can read this also https://www.yaacovapelbaum.com/2020/10/29/hunter-bidens-pornhub-page/

Ibime:
Except Iraq war where he brought his personal family beef into National policy

In that climate post 9-11 any regime remotely sympathetic to terror or shows any semblance is targeted. That was the time when 9-11 happened, Madrid train bomb and London bomb.

When ISIS started showing themselves, We saw how Obama who was a major war critic went hardline with any regime that was suspicious. Its a different thing when you are a critic vs when you are a President who has to defend his country and interest

The Russian Ukraine is an example even though it has nothing to do with US directly in the near term but Biden is also confused on how to approach it, If Russia was not a nuclear power believe me that it will be like Iraq by now

basilico:


When it comes to matters that are not political Wikipedia is a good source
I am just advicing you never to trust Wikipedia on matters political.
For instance they have extensive articles on water treatment. Those I trust.
When it comes to Drumph the site goes haywire.

Anyway always seek the truth. If Seun made a mod I would ban you

You don't know how much research I do on political matters or anything else because you are far too dumb to read or you would have noticed my sources are not only Wikipedia.

Don't advice buda, bas. You've been told your word is worth nothing to me. Thankfully, S would never give such powers to a destructive cancelling magaqnut like you.

raumdeuter:


In that climate post 9-11 any regime remotely sympathetic to terror or shows any semblance is targeted. That was the time when 9-11 happened, Madrid train bomb and London bomb.

When ISIS started showing themselves, We saw how Obama who was a major war critic went hardline with any regime that was suspicious. Its a different thing when you are a critic vs when you are a President who has to defend his country and interest

The Russian Ukraine is an example even though it has nothing to do with US directly in the near term but Biden is also confused on how to approach it, If Russia was not a nuclear power believe me that it will be like Iraq by now

Watch this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGk2VLjsvGU

raumdeuter:


In that climate post 9-11 any regime remotely sympathetic to terror or shows any semblance is targeted. That was the time when 9-11 happened, Madrid train bomb and London bomb.

Na lie oh.

Bush said he's a War President before 9/11. He said that with Iraq in mind.

If anything, 9/11 delayed his plans for Saddam.

E sure me die say he already had plan to avenge Saddam's assassination attempt on his dad.

Clinton was a missiles man who will just send missiles rather than putting troops on ground. When AlQaeda bombed American Embassy in Kenya, he simply sent missile to Sudan. When Saddam's assassination attempt on Bush happened, Clinton only sent missile. Dubya came to do the job properly for his father. That's personal family beef. Saddam was not an Islamist.

basilico:


You can read this also https://www.yaacovapelbaum.com/2020/10/29/hunter-bidens-pornhub-page/

I should go and read the pornhub pages of the hunter I said I don't care about, bas?

Sorry, but I do not take my mind into the gutter, and most especially, not on bas' say so.

budaatum:


You don't know how much research I do on political matters or anything else because you are far too dumb to read or you would have noticed my sources are not only Wikipedia.

Don't advice buda, bas. You've been told your word is worth nothing to me. Thankfully, S would never give such powers to a destructive cancelling magaqnut like you.

So we can say God is good because Ill never be a mod?

basilico:


So we can say God is good because Ill never be a mod?

You can say that if you want. For me, Seun is far too intelligent than to let a destructive person like you be a mod on his site.

budaatum:

I should go and read the pornhub pages of the hunter I said I don't care about, bas?

Sorry, but I do not take my mind into the gutter, and most especially, not on bas' say so.

that's not a pornhub page . Its an analysis of this crack smoking wheeler dealer.
Like an ostrich burying its head in the sand You need to do research,

SMH

basilico:


that's not a pornhub page . Its an analysis of this crack smoking wheeler dealer.
Like an ostrich burying its head in the sand You need to do research,

SMH

So, you really think burying your head where others poke their diqs is better than poking your head in sand? No wonder your head is so full off poo you need to SYH.

Explain to me why I should do research about things I don't give a damn about, bas.

budaatum:


It amuses me that you think you can block buda into your black and white world, diss. Complexity is befuddling to some.



buda does "care about Donald Trump Jnr, Donald Trump's son"!

You are a shameless liar.

Your hanging statement was you don't care about Hunter Biden because " he's not an elected official or the President ".

Even though he has been exposed to be involved in making biological weapons which could kill millions.

But you care about Donald Trump's son whose offence is calling votes rigged.

You would rather crucify an Orubebe (Trump Jnr) but let a Shekau (Huntet Biden) go scotfree.

There's a reason I particularly target you of the several commenting: Every statement you make contradicts itself and I know (even before digging) that there's a contradicting comment of yours I can find. All I have to do is local-search the reverse case.

Hunter Biden committed an international war crime (bioweapons are against the UN Charter) but you don't care because it doesn't suit your agenda. Your ilk protected and housed Boko Haram for years.

You are a shameless hypocrite. But you don't feel it yet it won't stop me from rubbing your hypocrisy on your face every time I visit this thread.

Ibime:


Na lie oh.

Bush said he's a War President before 9/11. He said that with Iraq in mind.

If anything, 9/11 delayed his plans for Saddam.

E sure me die say he already had plan to avenge Saddam's assassination attempt on his dad.

Clinton was a missiles man who will just send missiles rather than putting troops on ground. When AlQaeda bombed American Embassy in Kenya, he simply sent missile to Sudan. When Saddam's assassination attempt on Bush happened, Clinton only sent missile. Dubya came to do the job properly for his father. That's personal family beef. Saddam was not an Islamist.

You can hate a regime all you want, but you wont have an excuse to invade if there was no 9-11. Max you will do is economic sanctions.
Hugo Chavez was hated but they didnt do anything to him. Bush tagged North Korea as axis of evil, he didnt do anything to them because there was no remote relationship with "Islamic terror"

The post 9-11 climate made anxiety about "WMD in the hands of AlQaeda" seem legit, Ghadaffi had bombed Lockerbie way back in 1988, and has been openly anti West. It was just a little excuse of Arab Spring that was used to treat his agelong fvckup. There was nothing Ghadaffi was doing in 2010 that he was not doing for the past 40yrs, I will even argue that he had calmed down his anti west stance in 2010 vs earlier years

Ibime:


Na lie oh.

Bush said he's a War President before 9/11. He said that with Iraq in mind.

If anything, 9/11 delayed his plans for Saddam.

E sure me die say he already had plan to avenge Saddam's assassination attempt on his dad.

Clinton was a missiles man who will just send missiles rather than putting troops on ground. When AlQaeda bombed American Embassy in Kenya, he simply sent missile to Sudan. When Saddam's assassination attempt on Bush happened, Clinton only sent missile. Dubya came to do the job properly for his father. That's personal family beef. Saddam was not an Islamist.

I agree with you on some matters here..
The MIC Military Industrial Complex loves war, because that's how they make their darn money, And not forget no one will ever invade America Its too complex an operation and ordinary Americans are armed to the teeth,

budaatum:

I should go and read the pornhub pages of the hunter I said I don't care about, bas?

Sorry, but I do not take my mind into the gutter, and most especially, not on bas' say so.

Again, the hypocrisy.

Here's Budaatum making references to alleged Pornhub pages of Donald Trump and rejoicing in it.

He was willing to take his "mind into the gutter" then.

budaatum:


Even pornhub are distancing from trump.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12964966_screenshot20210110015813twitter_jpegd49e1a0c8829603e56d08d218c5a5426

raumdeuter:


You can hate a regime all you want, but you wont have an excuse to invade if there was no 9-11. Max you will do is economic sanctions.
Hugo Chavez was hated but they didnt do anything to him. Bush tagged North Korea as axis of evil, he didnt do anything to them because there was no remote relationship with "Islamic terror"

The post 9-11 climate made anxiety about "WMD in the hands of AlQaeda" seem legit, Ghadaffi had bombed Lockerbie way back in 1988, and has been openly anti West. It was just a little excuse of Arab Spring that was used to treat his agelong fvckup. There was nothing Ghadaffi was doing in 2010 that he was not doing for the past 40yrs, I will even argue that he had calmed down his anti west stance in 2010 vs earlier years

Bush has many ways to provoke something from Saddam to attack him. Bush was going to war with Saddam even if Jesus came. Without 9/11, he will still cook agenda to attack Saddam.

The gassing of the Kurds is enough for Bush to rally to attack Saddam if he pumps enough news into the media. Thats why he had Colin Powell holding fake test tube with chemicals.

The only people.Bush needs to convince is the American people. He went to war with the disapproval of the UN.