Jodera:
You're grasping at straws here

You said pep is a fraud, we debunked that.
You guys said he met a stable team in barca that's why he excelled, we debunked that.

You said Messi was already great before Pep that's why pep excelled, we debunked that again.

Now you wan carry me go gotze like say gotze na bayern, wetin concern Pep with Gotze biko kwanu?

Omoh I nor know who follow you argue all those arguments wey u mention...my first post to you was the one addressing how Pep made Messi great...Why u dey turn Amala because u nor get answer?

CAPdan21:

Wow...So 15 goals is the best Pep can do with German Messi which he has already bettered before Pep...LMAO

Gotze best under Klopp 16 goals
Gotze best under Pep 15 goals

Tell what is the difference?

CAPdan21:

Omoh I nor know who follow you argue all those arguments wey u mention...my first post to you was the one addressing how Pep made Messi great...Why u dey turn Amala because u nor get answer?

This is the numbers that showed that Pep made Messi

2005/06 - 8 goals
2006/07 - 17 goals
2007/08 - 16 goals

Pep came

2008/09 - 38 goals
2009/10 - 47 goals
2020/11 - 53 goals
2011/12 - 73 goals

Pep left

2012/13 - 60 goals
2013/14 - 41 goals
2014/15 - 41 goals
2015/16 - 54 goals

Jodera:
You're grasping at straws here

You said pep is a fraud, we debunked that.
You guys said he met a stable team in barca that's why he excelled, we debunked that.

You said Messi was already great before Pep that's why pep excelled, we debunked that again.

Now you wan carry me go gotze like say gotze na bayern, wetin concern Pep with Gotze biko kwanu?

Gotze even had a metabolic disorder that was damaging his muscles. I don't know when Pep became liquid metal Odumeje performing miracles to heal the sick.

raumdeuter:


Gotze best under Klopp 16 goals
Gotze best under Pep 15 goals

Tell what is the difference?

Let me put it in simple English....Call any other attacker under Pep that scored Messi least goals which is 38 or shut up about Pep making Messi great..

afrodoc2:


Gotze even had a metabolic disorder that was damaging his muscles. I don't know when Pep became liquid metal Odumeje performing miracles to heal the sick.

Does Sterling,Sane,Ribery, robben have metabolic disorders?...how many of them put up Messi like numbers

Abrahamovic attends peace talk between Russia and Ukraine in Turkey.

Oooops...... he's a Criminal or what do I know?!

andrewbaba44:




My Omo is omoed

my brother The thing tire me oo.

CAPdan21:

Let me put it in simple English....Call any other attacker under Pep that scored Messi least goals which is 38 or shut up about Pep making Messi great..

Lewandowski scored 42 goals under Pep

Like I told you run from Messi to Gotze to Sterling I will meet you there

Oya bring out the next name

CAPdan21:

Let me put it in simple English....Call any other attacker under Pep that scored Messi least goals which is 38 or shut up about Pep making Messi great..

Sterlings best goal scoring season under Pep
Messis best goal scoring season under Pep
Mullers best goal scoring season under Pep

Pep never claimed he can turn you to Messi but he will try to get the best version of you

CAPdan21:

Omoh I nor know who follow you argue all those arguments wey u mention...my first post to you was the one addressing how Pep made Messi great...Why u dey turn Amala because u nor get answer?

You're just the follow up of those earlier arguments na

If you don't know that it's good coaches and clubs that makes players great and mostly not otherwise. Many players have entered doldrums or haven't reached the expected heights because of the kinda coach or club they met

afrodoc2:


Gotze even had a metabolic disorder that was damaging his muscles. I don't know when Pep became liquid metal Odumeje performing miracles to heal the sick.

Imagine!
Pep Na miracle worker for cap.dan eyes

raumdeuter:


Sterlings best goal scoring season under Pep
Messis best goal scoring season under Pep
Mullers best goal scoring season under Pep

Pep never claimed he can turn you to Messi but he will try to get the best version of you

Louder boss!!!!

Jodera:
Louder boss!!!!

He will soon ask why JS Park, Nani, Tevez etc did not become Ronaldo under Ferguson

Jodera:
You're just the follow up of those earlier arguments na

If you don't know that it's good coaches and clubs that makes players great and mostly not otherwise. Many players have entered doldrums or haven't reached the expected heights because of the kinda coach or club they met

E nor concern me whether Pep is a Fraud tho we might visit this later if ATM dumps Pep out....Saying Pep made Messi is like saying Sir Alex made Ronaldo or all that bullshit...It's why in table tennis Nadal, Federer and Djokovic would still dominate with me as their coach but no table tennis coach can make an Andy Murray a Federer...My point in a nutshell, Messi would have been great regardless of Pep

CAPdan21:

which fucking dominance....since checkbook pep left Messi has won 3 more balon d'or how many best coach has pep won...Messi has also won another treble how many trebles has pep won...local league merchant..Can never be my Coach...

During Pep's time, 4 balon d'ors in 4 years.

After Pep, 3 balon d'Ors in 9 years.

Do the maths.

raumdeuter:


Lewandowski scored 42 goals under Pep

Like I told you run from Messi to Gotze to Sterling I will meet you there

Oya bring out the next name

Imagine calling Lewy a world class attacker as an example of Pep making a player great...If anything Klopp made him great which is equally fallacious

Jodera:
Exactly what I'm telling you and hensben. Messi never showed that prime until Pep came to his life not the other way round like you and hensben are making us to believe.

No pep = No busquet, no prime Messi, no prime Xavi and iniesta, no Pedro.

That's Pep for you boss

Stop turning fact on its head.

What Hensben told you was that Messi was in top form and that made Fraudiola win his UCLs. You countered it by asking

Jodera:
Was Messi of 2008/09 peak Messi?

For your information, people knew Messi before Fraudiola coached Barca and definitely was developing without him. In fact he won UCL before him and the previous season before Fraudiola joined, he scored 6 goals in UCL. He was a blessing to Fraudiola.

Even Raumdeuter called Fraudiola, a fraud at Bayern.

raumdeuter:


Pep played 11 vs 11 and lost 4-0 at home

Carlo played 10 vs 11 and lost 1-2 at home

Spot the difference

CAPdan21:

Imagine calling Lewy a world class attacker as an example of Pep making a player great...If anything Klopp made him great which is equally fallacious

You asked for the attacker who scored 38goals and more under Pep and I gave you lewandowski

Now you can change turn amala and run to Kafanchan. I dey there dey wait you

Sterlings best goal scoring season under Pep
Messis best goal scoring season under Pep
Mullers best goal scoring season under Pep

CAPdan21:

Tell me why you're comparing Messi @ 34 with a 21-29 yr old Messi...at which age did de Lima and dinho leave their prime...the fact that a 34 year old is still expected to put up numbers of a 20 something year old is a testament to his greatness..
CC: Raumdeuter

Jodera reasoning like Raumdeuter is disappointing.

raumdeuter:


You asked for the attacker who scored 38goals and more under Pep and I gave you lewandowski

Now you can change turn amala and run to Kafanchan. I dey there dey wait you

Your arguments are nonsensical....Lewy was already a golden boot winner b4 pep came even then he never gave Messi like numbers...Nice try but you must do better

CAPdan21:

Wow...So 15 goals is the best Pep can do with German Messi which he has already bettered before Pep...LMAO

Fraudiola had health issues, that's why.

raumdeuter:


Gotze best under Klopp 16 goals
Gotze best under Pep 15 goals

Tell what is the difference?

So the 16 couldn't turn to 26+ since Fraudiola was the miracle worker as he did for Messi.

airmark:




Fraudiola had health issues, that's why.

Pep made Messi... Imagine the nonsense
Pep can make a once in a century talent but is struggling to win UCL despite spending a 1bn.. Some jokes write themselves

CAPdan21:

Does Sterling,Sane,Ribery, robben have metabolic disorders?...how many of them put up Messi like numbers

Sane was insane
Sterling had Pound sterling debt
Robben/Ribery had robbery trauma.

Excuses

CAPdan21:

Your arguments are nonsensical....Lewy was already a golden boot winner b4 pep came even then he never gave Messi like numbers...Nice try but you must do better

Did Lewy ever score 30 league goals before Pep?
Did Messi ever score 70 goals

CAPdan21:

Pep made Messi... Imagine the nonsense
Pep can make a once in a century talent but is struggling to win UCL despite spending a 1bn.. Some jokes write themselves

Messi that made Chelsea fans shiver under Rijkaard?

Their Fraudiola should turn Foden to another Messi na. Nonsense talks.

airmark:


So the 16 couldn't turn to 26+ since Fraudiola was the miracle worker as he did for Messi.

Its stupid to expect players to be Messi when they dont have the same DNA as Messi

Pep most likely will get you to the best version of yourself as we saw with Muller and Sterling

CAPdan21:

Pep made Messi... Imagine the nonsense
Pep can make a once in a century talent but is struggling to win UCL despite spending a 1bn.. Some jokes write themselves

How come this once in a millenium talent cannot reproduce the numbers under Pep anymore?

When will Messi have another 70goal season he has tried at least 5 coaches since Pep

Messi under Pep was the best version of Messi ever

raumdeuter:


Its stupid to expect players to be Messi when they dont have the same DNA as Messi

Pep most likely will get you to the best version of yourself as we saw with Muller and Sterling

So it's the best version of Gabriel Jesus we have in Man city.

raumdeuter:


How come this once in a millenium talent cannot reproduce the numbers under Pep anymore?

When will Messi have another 70goal season he has tried at least 5 coaches since Pep

Messi under Pep was the best version of Messi ever

Another nonsense argument...Salah under klopp posted 43 goals in his first season after scoring 15 or 16 goals the previous season...since then Salah has not hit 40 goals, if klopp had left after that season we will now start hearing how klopp made Salah...70+ goals is an anomaly even for Messi

airmark:


So it's the best version of Gabriel Jesus we have in Man city.

If you know a better version let us know