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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by JOSCOFELIX: 10:54pm On Apr 14, 2022 |
rka1:three day ago Russia had call some African country including Nigeria about improving it bilateral and military cooperation and assuring African country that if they is a bilateral support from African toward Moscow, that it will see more benefit for African country and today US have agree with the procurement of AH1z they refused to sell shouting human right. NATO and USA should know African would not be there boy. shine your eye Nigeria would not risk it relation with russia |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Sizzorkay: 12:20am On Apr 15, 2022 |
why are you sorry? Good for Russia. i heard it sank while being towed. I guess they couldn't find chewing gum to patch that thing up jk SuperSixSeven: |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Sizzorkay: 12:54am On Apr 15, 2022 |
I just wished Zelensky would negotiate and wind this down, massive arms are pouring into that country right now, i feel terrible for the civilians there, it's going to be bloodier, and i don't see the gain in that for Ukraine. Negotiation could have helped them keep at least some of that region, I'm not well versed on Ukraine's geography, but continuous war isn't going to help. And funny enough they attacked homeland of Russia twice i believe, after Putin warned them not to, i hope their capital doesn't get decimated, we wait and watch. Only winners here are those egging them on to keep fighting. davefurn: |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Faithful007: 6:06am On Apr 15, 2022 |
davefurn:I don't know what you're saying. Oil has never been Ukraine's major exports. They're a farming nation, exporting wheat and other agric produce. They also export industrial raw materials. Not the entire shore line of Ukraine is under seige. A huge chunk of Ukrainian shoreline up to the port of Odessa hasn't seen a Russian bullet. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 6:19am On Apr 15, 2022 |
rka1:If the FG have learnt anything at all, they'd run for their lives. This will effectively tie almost 50% of our attack platform to the whims of the US But meh, I know my government will reason from their intestines so I wouldn't hold my breath 5 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stormtrooper11(m): 6:26am On Apr 15, 2022 |
sczeska: Swrs, chief. Too much vodka ain't that good as thought. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stormtrooper11(m): 6:30am On Apr 15, 2022 |
kabe1: It's the Akinci. The advanced version of the Barkytar
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:31am On Apr 15, 2022 |
rka1: I really don't know how I feel about this purchase. We are tying a huge percentage of our military air capabilities to American control. Well, nobody will say President Buhari is not investing in security. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stormtrooper11(m): 6:33am On Apr 15, 2022 |
kabe1: Shots fired. 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:37am On Apr 15, 2022 |
Odunayaw: Apparently FG has not learnt anything. We are now firmly under the influence of the United States government. Super Tucanos - America AH-1Z - America Engines for M-346F/A - America Engines for NNS Kada - America Engines for 2 x OPVs from Turkey - America Engines for Proforce Defence ARA 2 MRAP - America Engines and subsystems for Akinci UCAV - America Critical parts of Nigerian security architecture is completely Americanized. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stormtrooper11(m): 6:38am On Apr 15, 2022 |
kabe1: This Russian war spoilt alotta stuff but people in the helms might not believe in the capability of the Chinese platforms. Nigerian flyboys wanna fly American. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:38am On Apr 15, 2022 |
Stormtrooper11: Just facts, no pun. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 6:46am On Apr 15, 2022 |
Stormtrooper11: I don't think it's this Russian war that spoilt stuff. Although this war has put a nail on Russia's coffin and slammed it shut with regards to military procurement. If you remember correctly, Nigeria has been chasing the Super Tucano since the administration of former President Yar'Adua. Including attempts by President GEJ to purchase American helicopters from Israel. It's been a long time coming. Really Nigerian pilots want to fly American. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Faithful007: 6:58am On Apr 15, 2022 |
kabe1:Let's weigh the pros and cons First of all, Nigeria does not produce any, so military equipment in Nigeria is generally foreign controlled. Either America, EU, Russia or China. Mixing up a fleet has proven to be ineffective, cost prohibitive and detrimental in the long run. So buying from all countries to cook up soup in your airbases is a foolish option to start with. America and EU pros Tested equipment battle proven and Reliable Counter terror mutual interest Economic sanction free Russia pros Reliable as well Good alternative to anti westerners China pros Cheap equipment little to no control America cons Legislature and congress control due to democracy Can be pricy due to high labor costs Russia cons Putin control (A lot you may not know here) Economic sanction prone Less counter terror mutual interest China cons May not be reliable Little counter terror mutual interest. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stormtrooper11(m): 6:59am On Apr 15, 2022 |
kabe1: But the opp block are gonna take it as pun lol |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stormtrooper11(m): 7:02am On Apr 15, 2022 |
kabe1: Exactly. Nigeria has always been interested in the F 16 too. We might just be flying those birds in half a decade. It's probable but I hope not. I want atleast the Chinese J-10C. The Americans might have the "best" equipment but the worst Terms and conditions for developing countries. We can't risk making our entire airforce Americanised . Just a slight going against their will and our entire airforce would be grounded. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stormtrooper11(m): 7:15am On Apr 15, 2022 |
Faithful007: Seems the Egyptians will need your advice on mixing up a fleet lol. I know you're Pro-American. You believe that Uncle Sam is always right. You believe yall the good guys but I tell you what, Have you ever seen Russia and China interfering in the internal politics of a country uninvited?? E.g. The Syrians invited the Russians, who invited America? These are some of the things people weigh. Look at the terms we was given when trying to purchase the A 29s initially. The Americans didn't want to share deep technical knowledge with us. Does Russia apply all those terms? Look at Pakistan. How the Americans always come to check out the F16s. Did China give Pakistan those terms and conditions for the J10? Look, the Americans don't see us as equal partners especially us in the developing world. They see us as "kids". When you say Russian equipment are economic sanction prone, I hope you meant prone to American sanctions cos Putin isn't the one known to sanction people and will you like to explain what you meant by Putin being controlling? You're a funny dude for saying American equipment is economic sanctions free. You're literally saying "Buy American equipment or get sanctioned by us for not buying ours". Even when you buy, they sanction your country if the politics in your country is not going in their favour. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by slimthugchimee2(m): 7:32am On Apr 15, 2022 |
kabe1: Na me go first tag jln on god 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by slimthugchimee2(m): 7:34am On Apr 15, 2022 |
kabe1: I just proforce would increase production as they are extremely slow |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:01am On Apr 15, 2022 |
slimthugchimee2: I expect Proforce to be included in this procurement. It would be a shame if they don't get any deliveries. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:02am On Apr 15, 2022 |
slimthugchimee2: This procurement has since been confirmed. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 8:22am On Apr 15, 2022 |
Stormtrooper11: The problem is, will the Americans allow Nigeria purchase the J-10C even if we want to get them, I really doubt that. With the purchase of the AH-1Z it would be very possible for Nigeria to also get the F-16. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by davefurn: 9:24am On Apr 15, 2022 |
Faithful007:Odessa have been seeing strikes alot; if odessa is taken, ukraine doesn't have a port city again. Most of ukraine products are agricultural and steel but it's to note that most of that are produced around especially the steel are produced around the eastern region close to the sea. https://tradingeconomics.com/ukraine/exports#:~:text=Ukraine%20exports%20mainly%20steel%2C%20coal,Others%20include%20Turkey%20and%20China. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.spglobal.com/commodityinsights/en/market-insights/latest-news/agriculture/030122-feature-russian-invasion-disrupts-ukrainian-sunflower-oil-industry%23:~:text%3DThe%2520major%2520growing%2520regions%2520for,eastern%2520provinces%2520of%2520the%2520country.&ved=2ahUKEwjm9bh0JX3AhUehf0HHWEIB4IQFnoECAUQBQ&usg=AOvVaw2XvrjqpnznG0zrpStmTJtD If the eastern region is lost, a huge chunk of ukraine economy crashes. When last I checked the map.of ukraine; well I didn't see any major port cities again. As you can see seed oils, highest ukrainian agricultural exports is mostly produced in the eastern and central region
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by rka1: 9:41am On Apr 15, 2022 |
kabe1:[quo Odunayaw:te author=JOSCOFELIX post=111955659] three day ago Russia had call some African country including Nigeria about improving it bilateral and military cooperation and assuring African country that if they is a bilateral support from African toward Moscow, that it will see more benefit for African country and today US have agree with the procurement of AH1z they refused to sell shouting human right. NATO and USA should know African would not be there boy. shine your eye Nigeria would not risk it relation with russia[/quote] I think it is probably a tactic used by the US to draw Nigeria in as they know we are looking at the Turkish and Indian attack helos. Just like they tried with Indonesia who look like going for the Rafale and the US put out a proposal for I think the F16. We will wait and see as both army aviation and NAF need new attack helos. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by SuperSixSeven: 9:49am On Apr 15, 2022 |
Stormtrooper11: Do you have any source for this? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 9:49am On Apr 15, 2022 |
rka1:as for the army helos Proposals are Agusta,HAL,T129 we're waiting for the final pick |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Stormtrooper11(m): 10:05am On Apr 15, 2022 |
SuperSixSeven: Yeah. I got a guy in the Ship House. He actually said this in March. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by NTSA: 10:16am On Apr 15, 2022 |
Sizzorkay:How true is this? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jl115: 10:35am On Apr 15, 2022 |
kabe1:.... Yeah naaahhh......Egypt, Algeria and even SA have large fleets of drones |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GeneralFarouq: 10:38am On Apr 15, 2022 |
Stormtrooper11:Kids with Xpensive and dangerous toys |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:47am On Apr 15, 2022 |
rka1: I think Nigeria has always been interested in buying American systems, the Americans weren't just interested in selling under Obama. I don't think Army aviation would be buying any advanced helicopters, we should see them with multi role helicopters. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by oyinpr(m): 11:25am On Apr 15, 2022 |
I think the airforce should transfer the MI series to army aviation[quote author=kabe1 post=111965835][/quote] |
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