jl115:
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/sa-defence/sa-defence-sa-defence/seeker-uavs-for-the-saaf/

The South African National Defence Force (Defence Intelligence) was the launch customer for the Seeker 400, and took delivery of its first aircraft in late 2015, although operational testing and evaluation by Defence Intelligence division was still underway in 2019 ahead of the type being granted full military type certification.


You might just be the biggest clown in South -Africa.

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/unmanned-aerial-vehicles/denel-lost-a-seeker-400-in-a-2020-crash/

jl115:
https://www.defenceweb.co.za/sa-defence/sa-defence-sa-defence/seeker-uavs-for-the-saaf/

The SANDF opted not to order the armed version of the Seeker, which Denel sold to the UAE and Saudi. So no, we do not have UCAVs.

Odunayaw:
SA has a large fleet of UCAVs? Amazing

well if Nigeria has a "large" fleet by Nigerian definition then SA has as well...

Lurker4Long:

The SANDF opted not to order the armed version of the Seeker, which Denel sold to the UAE and Saudi. So no, we do not have UCAVs.

link?

Lurker4Long:

The SANDF opted not to order the armed version of the Seeker, which Denel sold to the UAE and Saudi. So no, we do not have UCAVs.

"The Seeker 400 has been ordered by the Defence Intelligence division of the South African National Defence Force, which took delivery of its first aircraft in late 2015"


https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/uae-orders-seekers-from-denel/

They did not buy or drones bru

jl115:
must I post the link here again?

You pulled out the Six (6) units figure from your as$.

From your link.

At the time of publication there was no indication of how many Seeker 400s were being built for the local client or when they will be delivered

kabe1:


You pulled out the Six (6) units figure from your as$.

From your link.

At the time of publication there was no indication of how many Seeker 400s were being built for the local client or when they will be delivered

Ever thought that there is more than one link?

jl115:


"The Seeker 400 has been ordered by the Defence Intelligence division of the South African National Defence Force, which took delivery of its first aircraft in late 2015"


https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/uae-orders-seekers-from-denel/

They did not buy or drones bru

You have been busted like the Clown Prince Orania which you are.

jl115:
well if Nigeria has a "large" fleet by Nigerian definition then SA has as well...

Dude!!!!



WTF!!!

Found the video on Twitter

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1514121257549283329

kabe1:

Dude!!!!



WTF!!!

why you surprised bru? The medium expenditure for UAVs over the next 3 years is nearly $8 million a year....

kabe1:


You have been busted like the Clown Prince Orania which you are.

can you not read the link?

kabe1:


The South African National Defence Force (Defence Intelligence) was the launch customer for the Seeker 400, and took delivery of its first aircraft in late 2015, although operational testing and evaluation by Defence Intelligence division was still underway in 2019 ahead of the type being granted full military type certification.


You might just be the biggest clown in South -Africa.

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/unmanned-aerial-vehicles/denel-lost-a-seeker-400-in-a-2020-crash/

OK so you just posted a link proving we bought the Seeker 400!!! Thanks bru

jl115:
can you not read the link?

From your South African links.

but the SANDF is known to fly DJI Phantoms and Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR)-developed Indiza hand-launched fixed wing UAVs

jl115:

OK so you just posted a link proving we bought the Seeker 400!!! Thanks bru

Where did I say you didn't buy one?

It has not been accepted into service as at 2019, and giving the liquidation of Denel, there's no evidence that your military accepted the aircraft into service.

The SANDF is only know to fly cheap Chinese DJI drones and hand launched Indiza drones.

jl115:


"The Seeker 400 has been ordered by the Defence Intelligence division of the South African National Defence Force, which took delivery of its first aircraft in late 2015"


https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/uae-orders-seekers-from-denel/

They did not buy or drones bru

There are 2 versions of the Seeker 400. The unarmed version which we ordered, and the Seeker 400 Syper, armed with 4 Impi-s.

As Kabe's post was about UCAV, that is, armed, no SANDF doesn't have.

kabe1:



It has not been accepted into service as at 2019, and giving the liquidation of Denel, there's no evidence that your military accepted the aircraft into service.

Denel Dynamics has not been liquidated. On the contrary, they won a new contract in the UAE just a few months ago.

kabe1:


Where did I say you didn't buy one?

It has not been accepted into service as at 2019, and giving the liquidation of Denel, there's no evidence that your military accepted the aircraft into service.

operational testing.... Just like how the rooivalk only officially entered service in 2011 but has been with 16 sqd since the late 90s

Lurker4Long:

There are 2 versions of the Seeker 400. The unarmed version which we ordered, and the Seeker 400 Syper, armed with 4 Impi-s.

As Kabe's post was about UCAV, that is, armed, no SANDF doesn't have.

link?

Lurker4Long:

Denel Dynamics has not been liquidated. On the contrary, they won a new contract in the UAE just a few months ago.

Same way they won a contract from Egypt for missiles, Chad for MRAPs and and the SANDF for Patria IFVs. We all know how the Bankrupt Denel executed those.

kabe1:
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The SANDF is only know to fly cheap Chinese DJI drones and hand launched Indiza drones.

Except you just posted a link saying we bought the Seeker 400

kabe1:


From your South African links.

but the SANDF is known to fly DJI Phantoms and Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR)-developed Indiza hand-launched fixed wing UAVs

OK and? So you think this sentence means the SANDF only flies these to drones?? Are you ret@rded bru?

jl115:
link?

Link to what? That our drones are unarmed? Gen Shoke, past CSANDF was asked in Parliament about armed drones and he specifically replied the SANDF has determined it has no need for armed drones at this stage.
His answers are here: www.pmg.org.za

We need a ref

Ukraines strategy in this war is borrowing heavily from the Chinese concept of a 'peoples war'.

jl115:
OK and? So you think this sentence means the SANDF only flies these to drones?? Are you ret@rded bru?

He doesn't know so educate him.
As far back as 2006, we were amongst the first to develop drones as targeting platforms for artillery, with the Paramount Vulture.

And then there's the jet-powered Denel Skua target drone, designed to mimic fast attack aircraft and used for testing weaponry, such as Denel’s own Umkhonto surface-to-air missile and the Brazilian-made MAA-1 Piranha air-to-air missile.

To this end, the Skua reach speeds of Mach 0.86 (1,062km/h) at an altitude of around 32,800ft. According to Denel, the endurance of the Skua is 60 minutes at a speed of Mach 0.7 (865km/h) and an altitude of roughly 20,000ft.

@kikuyu 1...Seems like the kdf is training some airmen for the Navy.

kabe1:


Same way they won a contract from Egypt for missiles, Chad for MRAPs and and the SANDF for Patria IFVs. We all know how the Bankrupt Denel executed those.

Gosh, you spend an inordinate amount of time being pained by us minnows, for such a giant!

Lurker4Long:

Link to what? That our drones are unarmed? Gen Shoke, past CSANDF was asked in Parliament about armed drones and he specifically replied the SANDF has determined it has no need for armed drones at this stage.
His answers are here: www.pmg.org.za

I understand that they might not have purchased the impi missiles.... However that doesn't mean they purchased another variant of the Seeker 400....its like saying The Gripen isn't bvr capable because saaf doesn't have BVRs....

jl115:
I understand that they might not have purchased the impi missiles.... However that doesn't mean they purchased another variant of the Seeker 400....its like saying The Gripen isn't bvr capable because saaf doesn't have BVRs....

I'm not sure that the Seeker 400 is modular like that. It might be, it might not.

Lurker4Long:

I'm not sure that the Seeker 400 is modular like that. It might be, it might not.

it is... It literally one of its selling points..

"This self-contained system with operational spares offers: a large payload carrying capability; high-definition video imagery; real-time data acquisition and transmission to remote receivers; autonomous takeoff and landing capability; external wing hard points for carriage of external fuel tanks or weapons; multiple sensor payloads; manual and autonomous capability (flight control and payload control); brake-assisted ground operation; separate or combined shelter configurations for the Mission Control Unit (MCU) and Tracking and Communications Unit (TCU); and integration with customer-preferred payloads (such as Communications Intelligence (COMINT), Electronic Intelligence (ELINT) and Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR)"

jl115:
OK and? So you think this sentence means the SANDF only flies these to drones?? Are you ret@rded bru?

There's no evidence to show the SANDF flies drones in active service other than DJI and Indiza.

Post the evidence to support your claims.