airmark:



Don't let us open your book and sprinkle with virgin oil this evening o.

Havertz10:
it’s called a theory because it’s not proven, James Webb telescope will give us a few answers soon, but unlike you, I don’t resign to the believe that some insecure maniac with self esteem issues created the universe

Arguments in support of the notion that god exist are stupid and flawed, you aren’t the first set of people that have been misled into believing trash, una plenty, this foolishness has been reintroducing itself by various means for centuries, printing press and the bullshit of heaven gave you guys your current madness

A001:
There are various pieces of evidence in support of the Big Bang Theory, and it's the best theory that we have today explaining the origin of the Universe.

This piece explains the theory:

What is the Big Bang Theory? https://www.space.com/25126-big-bang-theory.html

In the coming years, scientists will make a lot of progress on that theory because of the successful design and deployment of the most powerful telescope in the world and in history, the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST).

The JWST is parked in Lagrangian points in space and will peer back into our distant past to gather data about the the origin of the Universe.

(Lagrangian points are areas in the Earth orbit with weak gravitational force reducing the fuel needed to maintain a satellite, telescope, and similar equipment.)

In the coming years, the device will send its data back to the Earth for scientists to check and analyze.

When it comes to the question of the origin of the Universe, scientists give us the best answers, which are refined and improved on daily with more and more discoveries.

But the religious texts only give answers that look vague like childish tales, invoking one god or the other to account for the origin of the universe.

The scientific method is better than the religious (divine) method because the former is open to questioning and skepticism, isn't based on dogmas, allows for objectivity, and is revised from time to time.

The fact that what we know as humans pales in comparison with what we don't know doesn't necessitate the existence of a supernatural entity called God.

Evolution is a well established phenomenon in science, and Neo-Darwinism is one of the most solid theories in science.

Everything changes (evolves) over time, but evolution doesn't accurately account for the origin of life on Earth.

My own position based on my research on the subject is that the following theories all account for the origin of life on this planet:
1. The Big Bang
2. Evolution
3. Intelligent Design
4. Panspermia (which states life began elsewhere in the Universe and was distributed by space dust, meteoroids, asteroids, comets, planetoids, and spacecraft)

In the coming years, more advances will be made in these areas.

By the time one delves deeper into how life began on Earth, one will realize that given the highly complex nature of life on this planet, there has to be an intelligent, self-conscious, and self-learning Mind (not a god or God) behind the scene.

Even taking a mere look at the DNA, the genetic building block (code) of life, it's only natural to think there's an intelligent Mind responsible for the design of the code in the DNA.

The level of complexity of the DNA, consciousness, brain, human body, planets, etc. is too high and the fine-tuning of certain aspects of nature (or constants of nature) too carefully done to say all this just occurred by chance.

Still, that doesn't mean God exists or has to exist.

Personally, I regard Existence as a self-conscious, intelligent, and self-learning system which humans, animals, planets, and other things in the Universe are all part of.

In other words, humans, animals, planets, etc. each form a subset (a group, field, or ring with infinite elements) of an infinite, self-conscious, self-learning, and intelligent system or set called Existence.

Then, I don't see the physical reality (world) as the only reality or realm in existence. Those of us that have had near-death experience, lucid dreams, out-of-body experience (OOBE) would have seen other realms of existence, worlds governed by laws of nature different from the physical world.

(I recall when I'd an out-of-body experience for the first time in 2005, where I saw myself floating over my body, looking at myself lying on the bed; then, as a religious person, I thought death had come, and because I was scared, my consciousness quickly drifted back into my body, and I woke up in fright, praying fervently never to be in such a state.

But now I know better that ours is just one of the many realms of existence, having had OOBE many times over the past decade. OOBE is like lucid dreaming and when one dies, it looks like OOBE at first.

The only difference is that in death, one transitions permanently into another world or realm, not temporarily like in OOBEs.

That's why our wise forefathers in Yoruba say ìkú dabi aajo aremabọ, meaning death is like a journey with no return. Having that experience (OOBE) is like going on a journey into space.

OOBEs, like lucid dreaming, are a journey into oneself, the deepest corners of one's brain, which is one's inner world.)

But these are personal experiences which can be subjective. Still, these phenomena suggest the existence of the multiverse.

It's scientifically possible that ours is just one of the many (maybe infinite) universes in existence, and like theoretical physicists such as nobel laureate Roger Penrose posit, other universe(s) exists
But that's not an established fact in science yet.

macjireh:


So u believe in d existence of a Multiverse ,, Havertz10 come and see Ur colleague

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A001:
There are various pieces of evidence in support of the Big Bang Theory, and it's the best theory that we have today explaining the origin of the Universe.

This piece explains the theory:

What is the Big Bang Theory? https://www.space.com/25126-big-bang-theory.html

In the coming years, scientists will make a lot of progress on that theory because of the successful design and deployment of the most powerful telescope in the world and in history, the James Webb Space Telescope (JWST).

The JWST is parked in Lagrangian points in space and will peer back into our distant past to gather data about the the origin of the Universe.

(Lagrangian points are areas in the Earth orbit with weak gravitational force reducing the fuel needed to maintain a satellite, telescope, and similar equipment.)

In the coming years, the device will send its data back to the Earth for scientists to check and analyze.

When it comes to the question of the origin of the Universe, scientists give us the best answers, which are refined and improved on daily with more and more discoveries.

But the religious texts only give answers that look vague like childish tales, invoking one god or the other to account for the origin of the universe.

The scientific method is better than the religious (divine) method because the former is open to questioning and skepticism, isn't based on dogmas, allows for objectivity, and is revised from time to time.

The fact that what we know as humans pales in comparison with what we don't know doesn't necessitate the existence of a supernatural entity called God.

Evolution is a well established phenomenon in science, and Neo-Darwinism is one of the most solid theories in science.

Everything changes (evolves) over time, but evolution doesn't accurately account for the origin of life on Earth.

My own position based on my research on the subject is that the following theories all account for the origin of life on this planet:
1. The Big Bang
2. Evolution
3. Intelligent Design
4. Panspermia (which states life began elsewhere in the Universe and was distributed by space dust, meteoroids, asteroids, comets, planetoids, and spacecraft)

In the coming years, more advances will be made in these areas.

By the time one delves deeper into how life began on Earth, one will realize that given the highly complex nature of life on this planet, there has to be an intelligent, self-conscious, and self-learning Mind (not a god or God) behind the scene.

Even taking a mere look at the DNA, the genetic building block (code) of life, it's only natural to think there's an intelligent Mind responsible for the design of the code in the DNA.

The level of complexity of the DNA, consciousness, brain, human body, planets, etc. is too high and the fine-tuning of certain aspects of nature (or constants of nature) too carefully done to say all this just occurred by chance.

Still, that doesn't mean God exists or has to exist.

Personally, I regard Existence as a self-conscious, intelligent, and self-learning system which humans, animals, planets, and other things in the Universe are all part of.

In other words, humans, animals, planets, etc. each form a subset (a group, field, or ring with infinite elements) of an infinite, self-conscious, self-learning, and intelligent system or set called Existence.

Then, I don't see the physical reality (world) as the only reality or realm in existence. Those of us that have had near-death experience, lucid dreams, out-of-body experience (OOBE) would have seen other realms of existence, worlds governed by laws of nature different from the physical world.

(I recall when I'd an out-of-body experience for the first time in 2005, where I saw myself floating over my body, looking at myself lying on the bed; then, as a religious person, I thought death had come, and because I was scared, my consciousness quickly drifted back into my body, and I woke up in fright, praying fervently never to be in such a state.

But now I know better that ours is just one of the many realms of existence, having had OOBE many times over the past decade. OOBE is like lucid dreaming and when one dies, it looks like OOBE at first.

The only difference is that in death, one transitions permanently into another world or realm, not temporarily like in OOBEs.

That's why our wise forefathers in Yoruba say ìkú dabi aajo aremabọ, meaning death is like a journey with no return. Having that experience (OOBE) is like going on a journey into space.

OOBEs, like lucid dreaming, are a journey into oneself, the deepest corners of one's brain, which is one's inner world.)

But these are personal experiences which can be subjective. Still, these phenomena suggest the existence of the multiverse.

It's scientifically possible that ours is just one of the many (maybe infinite) universes in existence, and like theoretical physicists such as nobel laureate Roger Penrose posit, other universe(s) exists.

But that's not an established fact in science yet.

Havertz10:
my reply is simple, if we factor empirical evidence, it’s only a fool that will believe that there is a god

Segedinho:

I am interested in this OOBE.

Did it just happen randomly or you did something to trigger it.


Just curious

Segedinho:

Sleep well baba......

DissTroy:


The onos is on you, the naysayers, to prove there's no supreme, all intelligent being. I choose to call that being God.

So far, even the most brilliant scientific atheists have not been able to disprove there's no God, including your late demi-god, Stephen Hawkings. (Funny how atheists adore him like a religious leader.)

Heck! There's infighting amongst atheists as to how the world came to me. Some believe the Big Bang Theory and some laugh it off.
How do you want to be taken seriously when you don't even have a united and common front?

What makes it even more ironic is, atheism has sects since some believe some theories and some don't so you bicker amongst yourselves as to who is more right and which more probable?
You know where else that happens? Religion! Like Catholism and Protestantism or Sunnis ans Shi'as.

So, which of the sects are you? Bing Bang or chemical evolution or which other?

A001:

It happens randomly or naturally for me. But some people say or claim they can stimulate it at will via meditation, use of entheogens or phychedelics (I don't like this risky method though and don't know if it works or not), and others.

I've not been able to do OOBE at will, but whenever it happens, I engage in it consciously.

It's like lucid dreaming, where one can consciously control or remember vividly some aspects of the dream.

I don't want to discuss the topic further please.

CAPdan21:

Na so Jesus take answer pursue the unbelieving pharisees... Continue the good work bro, ape nor fit do this one...Lmao

Havertz10:
my reply is simple, if we factor empirical evidence, it’s only a fool that will believe that there is a god

Ibime:
Father Abraham scored a brace yesterday bringing his tally to 27 goals

Segedinho:

I understand the bolded.


I wouldn't wonna ask more question to undermine what you had or went through as a result of the bolded.

But,how do u explain dreams that transforms into reality.

My mum dreams/sees exactly what will happen to someone and within a short period of time it triggers.

The one that really drew my attention was the accident my immediate elder bro had...just a week b4 she called and explained her dream to him.

Is their any scientific explanation for it?

izzou:
https://www.nairaland.com/7137602/lekki-lynching-police-reveal-identity

nihilistjnr

Dem don release identity. Our Arewa brothers no full the list as we assume

Make dem unban Okada abeg. E dey affect me

A001:

Some people have that gift where some of their dreams come to pass, but there are charlatans as well.

For the genuine ones, this is my own opinion: they might have got such information (the details of the dreams) unconsciously or consciously from another realm or from the subconscious part of the brain.

I honestly don't think the physical realm is the only realm of existence, and based on some of my life experiences, it doesn't make sense to see this reality as the only realm in existence.

It's because of some of the things I've experienced that I'm not atheist.

I think life is much deeper.

That's my own view, or you can call it speculations because I don't think there are concrete scientific answers to that question yet.

But there will be in the future.

A001:

It's not a belief. It's a position or a possibility (put mildly).

Segedinho:

Oh boy.

You bolded..if true is regarded as spirituality and to some extent has some connections with Christian's beliefs.

Christian believes in multi-realms..the physical wch is what is visible on earth and the spiritual wch actually controls the physical.

It can be altered if one posseses some special gifts/grace to decipher it.

Kimbeast:

The only “evidence” for a God are dusty scrolls written by goat herders in the Bronze Age.

A001:

There are myriads of beliefs, and often, what one believes could be different from reality.

Nevertheless, there are some elements of truth in all religions and belief systems, including the ATR and Christianity.

But to separate facts from fictions, it's better to adopt the scientific method (observation, reasoning, and experimention/testing).

That approach allows us to know objectively what's real and true (independent of one's religion, race, personal interests and affiliations, etc.) from what is ideated and false.

There are some scientific theories "that support the idea of parallel universes beyond our own".

Read more here: Do parallel universes exist? We might live in a multiverse. — https://www.space.com/32728-parallel-universes.html

BlueMann:
Most goals by an Englishman in a single Serie A season

Bakumo, you're doing well

macjireh:

Human beings have suffered sha,,we are so limited and confused...Even among u atheists,,u guys are divided....Is our God not wonderful?

macjireh:

Human beings have suffered sha,,we are so limited and confused...Even among u atheists,,u guys are divided....Is our God not wonderful?

macjireh:


Wat are d evidences for big bang theory and evolution?

macjireh:

Even among u atheists,,u guys are divided....Is our God not wonderful?

BlueRayDick:


I was talking about lynching/mob action the other day some people thought I was downplaying the Deborah incident. We as a people need to do away with that lynching culture.

Any small thing if a suspected thief is caught they lynch him, if a suspected kidnapper is caught the same thing , even seeing an unknown face in a neighborhood there’s been cases of residents raising false alarm and sending such people to early grave.

These guy probably didn’t even know the issue the late sound engineer had with Dahiru(the bike guy) but only joined in lynching based on whatever the mastermind (Chigozie) must have told them.