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benalvino3:


So no one should obey a law they don't like?

The law is the law whether you like it or not and there are consequences if you don't obey it. Fact though is no one obeys laws they dislike enough to not obey. Thieves and murderers and drumptghp are examples.

What should be is laws that are unpoliceable and unforceable should not be passed, and do note that the Supreme Court has not passed any "law" here, and have delegated that responsibility to each state.

benalvino3:
My body my choice. Their state their choice.

Finally, you are understanding.

budaatum:


The law is the law whether you like it or not and there are consequences if you don't obey it. Fact though is no one obeys laws they dislike enough to not obey. Thieves and murderers and drumptghp are examples.

What should be is laws that are unpoliceable and unforceable should not be passed, and do note that the Supreme Court has not passed any "law" here, and have delegated that responsibility to each state.

Laws banning abortion is as unpoliceable as laws against murder. You are not saying they should not pass laws against murder or they should legalise murder.

budaatum:


Finally, you are understanding.

If you understand this then you will be happy for what the Supreme Court did.

benalvino3:


Laws banning abortion is as unpoliceable as laws against murder.

Not true, Ben. Abortion does not leave the evidence that murder leaves behind for starts, and you may not know a crime was committed with abortion.

Think if you can. If I murder you there'll be a dead body stinking up somewhere and someone will miss you, but no one would know I aborted you before my bump is obvious unless I told them I was pregnant with you in the first place.

benalvino3:


If you understand this then you will be happy for what the Supreme Court did.

I am not in any way against what the Supreme Court did, Ben. 'My body my choice', does mean 'my state my state's choice'. Just that we now have to debate when my body became the state's choice and how it will fly since I'm not going to be buying that in the supposed land of the free and the brave.

And there's the contradiction of New York not being able to pass it's own state laws where guns are concerned.

budaatum:


I am not in any way against what the Supreme Court did, Ben. 'My body my choice', does mean 'my state my state's choice'. Just that we now have to debate when my body became the state's choice and how it will fly since I'm not going to be buying that in the supposed land of the free and the brave.

And there's the contradiction of New York not being able to pass it's own state laws where guns are concerned.

Just asking for your opinion. Do you think the creator is happy with this ruling?

basilico:


Just asking for your opinion. Do you think the creator is happy with this ruling?

What creator of what, bas?

budaatum:


What creator of what, bas?

I can see where you are coming from. Black lives matter. Baby Lives Matter too.

Thomas Jefferson penned “all men are created equal, He did not pen all men are born equal.

“Preamble” of the Declaration of Independence
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to ......


By men he meant humanity not just biological men, It still stands today I figure out the left has not had time to have it changed to make it gender sensitive.

Gun law pass congress

The bill would incrementally toughen requirements for young people to buy guns, deny firearms from more domestic abusers and help local authorities temporarily take weapons from people judged to be dangerous. Most of its $13 billion cost would go to bolster mental health programs and for schools, which have been targeted in Newtown, Connecticut, Parkland, Florida and many other infamous massacres

raumdeuter:
Gun law pass congress

The bill would incrementally toughen requirements for young people to buy guns, deny firearms from more domestic abusers and help local authorities temporarily take weapons from people judged to be dangerous. Most of its $13 billion cost would go to bolster mental health programs and for schools, which have been targeted in Newtown, Connecticut, Parkland, Florida and many other infamous massacres

I think the law is sensible because you cannot buy a beer till 21 The problem with bills is that like the bolded part. Who determines whether you are dangerous for them to take your guns. Kyle Rittenhouse for example. If FBI decide you are an insurrectionist they can take your guns away. If you have bought 600 rounds of ammunition they can take your guns away also.

PDPGuy:
I expect CA and other blue state hospitals to be overflowing with women from Red states seeking abortions

If women in red states vote in state representatives who want abortion to be banned, then they get what they deserve.

basilico:

I can see where you are coming from.

No you can't see where I am coming from, bas.

You can not read my mind and you have shown a complete lack of the ability to discern an accurate understanding from what I write that you read.

basilico:


I think the law is sensible because you cannot buy a beer till 21 The problem with bills is that like the bolded part. Who determines whether you are dangerous for them to take your guns. Kyle Rittenhouse for example. If FBI decide you are an insurrectionist they can take your guns away. If you have bought 600 rounds of ammunition they can take your guns away also.

How is an individual going to be judged to be dangerous? Would he stand trial or take a mental evaluation? Can you lose your right to gun ownership for posting right wing opinions online? Would trans people be judged to be mentally fit? I have so many questions...

budaatum:


No you can't see where I am coming from, bas.

You can not read my mind and you have shown a complete lack of the ability to discern an accurate understanding from what I write that you read.

I don't come here to read minds . I come here to exchange my opinions with others. You on the other hand comes here sometimes to just irk people, be obnoxious and take them round in circles when you have no reasonable answer.

CoolUsername:


How is an individual going to be judged to be dangerous? Would he stand trial or take a mental evaluation? Can you lose your right to gun ownership for posting right wing opinions online? Would trans people be judged to be mentally fit? I have so many questions...

I would think that's the catch. Democrats want to take away guns so what ramdeuter posted I figure out that's the loophole they would exploit once the bill is signed into law. Just my thoughts.

CoolUsername:


How is an individual going to be judged to be dangerous? Would he stand trial or take a mental evaluation? Can you lose your right to gun ownership for posting right wing opinions online? Would trans people be judged to be mentally fit? I have so many questions...

That might man people who have displayed in the past that they can be unstable like having multiple violence related arrests

wirinet:


Imagine states are free to determine their abortion laws but are not free to determine their gun laws. And conservatives claim to concerned about human life. Hypocrisy of the highest order.

budaatum:


By civilly being disobedient. They can fill their already overfilled jails with abortees.

And good one America Supreme Court for letting each state decide, though I'm amused they won't let New York decide its own gun laws.

There's no hypocrisy there, Gun ownership rights are enshrined In the second amendment and no state has the power to make any law that contradicts that. Abortion rights on the other hand don't exist in the constitution and should be left to individual states just like the constitution intended. Roe V wade was an anomaly, the courts exist to interpret laws not manufacture laws that don't exist. That anomaly has been corrected by the present supreme court.

Timiofak:


This is being tone deaf stupid sha; pretending like the democrat majority had anything to do with it

When it all started 6 years ago

When everyone warned that this would happen; what did idiots and coons say “but her emails”

You allowed McConnel that would die in the next 10 years max to decide the fate of America for the next 50 years

Now blame the democrats some more; what do you want them to do? Pack the courts ? Remove the filibuster?

Lol; same sex marriages and gay marriages are all on the chopping board

Good riddance lol.

State rights my ass

Let’s also leave slavery to state rights

The States rights slogan is rooted in white domination.

Remember the civil war and Jim Crow era.

Anyway no need to sound the alarm bells Clarence Thomas has given Idaho and other red states heads up to ban contraceptives those ones are on the chopping block.

America is falling before our very eyes and the sad thing is that the majority allow these minority extremist to decide for millions of people.

Anyway JP Morgan has just announced that it will fund abortion trips of its workers to states where it will still be legal before Mike Pence completely bans abortion in America.

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raumdeuter:


That might man people who have displayed in the past that they can be unstable like having multiple violence related arrests

Might? That's the problem, when the answer to such an important question is not certain but is left open ended and subject to different Interpretations then it becomes dangerous. Any unscrupulous politician or DA can decide to Interpret it whichever way he wants and abuse it.

CoolUsername:


If women in red states vote in state representatives who want abortion to be banned, then they get what they deserve.

No woman deserves to die or be imprisoned for having a right over her body.

basilico:


I think the law is sensible because you cannot buy a beer till 21 The problem with bills is that like the bolded part. Who determines whether you are dangerous for them to take your guns. Kyle Rittenhouse for example. If FBI decide you are an insurrectionist they can take your guns away. If you have bought 600 rounds of ammunition they can take your guns away also.

but you can go to Iraq and die at 18
well, except you are in the army, 18 years shouldnt be buying guns

wirinet:


Imagine states are free to determine their abortion laws but are not free to determine their gun laws. And conservatives claim to concerned about human life. Hypocrisy of the highest order.

Lol, it is never about life but controlling women. If they did they would support gun control instead of leaving children to die. Support health care bills for women and children but they do not.

A lot of pregnant women in prison and a lot of women will be affected by this. I don't know why people are celebrating making lives of women difficult.

One thing is certain though the GQP is going lose big this November.

AmazonTopaz:

The States rights slogan is rooted in white domination.

Remember the civil war and Jim Crow era.

Anyway no need to sound the alarm bells Clarence Thomas has given Idaho and other red states heads up to ban contraceptives those ones are on the chopping block.

JIm Crow. A democrat
Democrats haven't been this upset since the slaves were freed.

AmazonTopaz:
America is falling before our very eyes and the sad thing is that the majority allow these minority extremist to decide for millions of people.

Anyway JP Morgan has just announced that it will fund abortion trips of its workers to states where it will still be legal before Mike Pence completely bans abortion in America.

I know many people wish for this to happen but America is not falling. Its the greatest country on the planet which will even get stronger

benalvino3:


but you can go to Iraq and die at 18
well, except you are in the army, 18 years shouldnt be buying guns

Never thought of it that way. At 18 you can get conscripted. I think as we have discussed here before absentee dads and mental health issues are the cause of these mass shootings in gun free zone.. Plus gangs and drug inflows.
This problem of guns and violence needs a holistic approach. The left has a one shoe fit it all. Take away all guns

Kachills:





There's no hypocrisy there, Gun ownership rights are enshrined In the second amendment and no state has the power to make any law that contradicts that. Abortion rights on the other hand don't exist in the constitution and should be left to individual states just like the constitution intended. Roe V wade was an anomaly, the courts exist to interpret laws not manufacture laws that don't exist. That anomaly has been corrected by the present supreme court.

But but women should have rights over their bodies. I saw a comment that a foetus is just a mass of cells. SMH

AmazonTopaz:
A lot of pregnant women in prison and a lot of women will be affected by this. I don't know why people are celebrating making lives of women difficult.

One thing is certain though the GQP is going lose big this November.

Kill the baby then? God also loves babies I think and there are baby nurseries in prison.

raumdeuter:


I know many people wish for this to happen but America is not falling. Its the greatest country on the planet which will even get stronger

Keep deceiving yourself.

You are free to.

Even the democratic world does not even recognise America. While other nations are progressing a fringe minority is taking the country back.