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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by oteneaaron(m): 6:01pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Is this the FRUIT you keep talking about? Where you threatened Courz and asked him to "watch his back"? Is this the ROTTEN FRUIT that your organization produces? MaxInDHouse: 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:58pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
oteneaaron: "Pray you don't get into the trap of my former colleagues with stupid stories because i know some of them that will take you up on stories and that's the time exjws will deny you" The highlighted is not a threat but facts my guy! For my part i'm now one of JWs no longer with those that deal ruthlessly with liars anymore because now i'm of the opinion that says "Father forgive them because they don't know what they're doing" Luke 23:34 I'm only warning you that you should keep such blackmails on JWs and never forget that there are many out there that won't take it cool with you and all your friends spreading lies simply because you hate them. Fools like you always feel threatened when given wise advice, i'm not interested in doing anything to you if the organization of JWs doesn't bother about your crap what's my own business? All i know is that that's the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught whether you like it or not is none of my business! 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 9:03pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
oteneaaron: Very much around baba. I am well. Equally good to see your post and comment. I no really enter religious section to see stuff going on here. 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by GoodIsGod: 9:03pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Hear yourself at the bolded. Your self righteousness is worst than that of the man in the synagogue example Jesus gave pointing accusing fingers at another man saying, "God you know I am righteous, I am not like that sinner over there..." You are so blind to see how many times your beliefs as an organization has failed. And if they failed those time what assurance do you have that many of your beliefs now won't fail too? Going from house to house that you do is what makes you think you are the only one doing the instruction of " go ye into the world" because other christians that you nicknamed Christiandom are not all doing it. But you are ignorant that many churches do it. They may not do it as often as Jw do it. But they have other medium that they use in reaching out to people. It 21century you should know that. Finally I am glad to let you know that most of your beliefs are mere guesses. The fact that you believe they are facts doesn't make them facts. And again, the bible didn't say only those who knows where paradise is, or wether hell is grave or Jesus is Angel Michael are the ones the children of God. What the bible says is "Only those who believe in Him are given the opportunity to become the children of God" Wether Paradise is in heaven or earth it should not be my headache. What matters is believe in God Jehovah and believe in His son Jesus. Serve them and do away with sins. I don't need to start guessing if Jesus is Angel Michael. Of what benefit is that to my faith? You have been brainwashed. 4 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:08pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
GoodIsGod: Thanks for the story. So have you found a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses? 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 9:09pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
Janosky: Diversion tactics as usual, my post is not about Judas Iscariot. The Jehovah’s standards you talk about remain ARCHAIC IDEAS TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE Na your mouth talk am get to wrap your head and intelligence round it 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by GoodIsGod: 9:11pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: What are you Clowns performing. Mention one of your performances. Is Walking up and down the streets the performance you are referring to,? You guys are clowns. You are not better than the arrogant worshiper Jesus mentioned 4 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 9:12pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
oteneaaron: No be today we know for threatening people with destruction and armageddon He will soon tell you that, it is part of being TRUE DISCIPLES of Jesus christ. When other religious organisations do so, they are not true disciples of Jesus christ but producers of ROTTEN FRUITS. 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by achorladey: 9:16pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: See the part of his response again....... What matters is believe in God Jehovah and believe in His son Jesus. Serve them and do away with sins. Obviously this is not enough you must propagate your better performing performance group that you said are sinners like every other religious denominations and are influenced by the devil. 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by GoodIsGod: 9:42pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
Janosky: No! Jesus is not the servant of Jehovah. Jesus is the son of God. I am different from my father's servants. My father's servants are servants while I am the son. You said Jesus was a Jehovah's witness. Yes Jesus was a Jehovah's witness like every other genuine Christian among who you guys in your arrogance and self-righteousness named Christiandom. Because you believe they are evil. You ignorantly likened other christians to the scribes and the Pharisees not knowing you people are the ones behaving like the Pharisees. What did the Pharisees do? They have self-righteousness and Pride like Jehovah's witnesses. Like you accuse other christians of equating Jesus to God, the Pharisees accused Him of the same. While He Himself has made us to know that "if you have seen me you have seen the father... I am in the father and the father is in me" Another place he did what only God can do. He forgave sin! "For you to know that the son has power to forgive sin" , "your sins are forgiven" Another place he said, "Whatsoever you ask the father in my name, the same I will do" Not the same the father will do. But the same I will do. Why should I ask someone a thing and another will give me? Because I am asking the same person. Never make Jesus look like a servant He is the Son of God. Who the Father has given all power. (Total Trust) 3 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 9:43pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
Janosky:Wait...from ur first picture...it show even Pentecostal is better than u...0.9 to 1.7...? The churches u posted...I am not even a member of any... Do u see..from my comments. U can't even tell where I belong and dats wat I love...I want to belong to Christ. I want people to know me with Christ and not denomination... From ur statement...I guess ur Jehovah's witnesses...can u guess where I belong except Christ? TRY |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 9:50pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:So MaxinDHouse...u can admit that ur organization is infallible...Jesus Christ...u can admit that u make errors...wow... Those periods of ur error...ur people would av bn claiming it's the right path ooo...but now that those secrets were exposed...u claim it was in the past...in future...ur grandchildren will say d same tin...that this era was also an error. Christ is infallible...the Bible never change nor fail...when people misinterpreted it...that is wen they fail...WE DONT FAIL...THE CHURCH OF GOD(NOT DENOMINATION OR ORGANIZATION) IS INFALLIBLE COS CHRIST HOLDS US STRONGLY IN HIS PERFECTION AND WE WILL NEVER DERAIL. Read Jude 1:24 [24]Now all glory to God, who is able to keep you from falling away and will bring you with great joy into his glorious presence without a single fault. 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:52pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
GoodIsGod: God bless you jàre for the highlighted but i will mention more than one performance of the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught! [1] When Jesus commanded his disciples to go out there and make disciples he actually set the pace for making disciples which is going from house to house and door to door {Matthew 10:11-13} this will make it really difficult for any of his followers to be a thug or trouble maker in the society {1Peter 2:12} that's why you can't remember JWs being protesters or thugs in our society today! [2] Jesus taught his followers to stay away from politics because that's the only excuse people make for justifying innocent people {John 15:19; 17:14} so when racism leads to fighting and killings in the society where all other religions are involved JWs are neutral! [3] Jesus taught his followers not to revenge but wait for God's Kingdom to set matters straight {Matthew 5:39-42} that's why JWs won't support anyone who wants to revenge no matter what happens we sue for peace! Matthew 26:52 [4] Jesus insisted that his followers must love their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} but in the midst of his disciples they must love fellow believers much more. How? Just as he loves them! John 13:34-35; 15:12-13 This makes JWs preaching and teaching in all our neighbourhood hoping to help us and as for love among JWs even the whole world know that JWs love their fellow believers! [5] Jesus taught and prayed for his disciples to have the same line of thought on sacred matters {John 17:22} only JWs are known globally for having a unique teaching so no matter where you go on this planet you will recognize a JW by their oneness! [6] The reason why God sent Jesus is to make a global family of peace loving worshipers with his wonderful counsel {Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Isaiah 9:6} so after preaching and teaching his ideas must be taken round the globe and what will be the expected result? People from different races throughout the world will come together under one umbrella, they will use God's word (not politics) to make rules within themselves, they will resolve all their racial disparities, they will divert their resources into production of food and information materials, they will stop producing weapons and vowed never to learn war anymore! Micah 4:1-3 So despite the fact that the Watchtower has gathered sinners (imperfect humans) from all the nations of the earth and we know them in our neighborhood that they're just people like all of us, something like a spirit has help them to produce all the aforementioned just as Jesus Christ promised saying: By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18 YES! Despite being imperfect like all of us this group has achieved a lot with the same kinds of people you can find in different geographical locations on this planet. Surely no false religion can produce such fine WORKS! James 2:18-26 God bless you and may you have PEACE! 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:57pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
immaculatesense: Guy enough of this bull crap the Israelites were God's people and they made lots and lots of errors including many of their prophets yet you're clinging to their book today because that's the one and only organization God chose back then. Today JWs have produced lots of fine WORKS so if your own religion has failed in producing such fine WORKS it's none of my business. Whether they make mistakes or not the point is they've achieved what Jesus promised. Period! 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 10:02pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:I laugh at u...ur organization was built on lies and propaganda...is that the organization Jesus created. Ur creator Charles Taze Russell said Jesus is coming in 1878...and that marks the foundation of ur organization...which turned out to be the biggest lie of the time...so,we can sum up ur organization was build a centurion LIE...so,if ur own Jesus is the derail,the Lie and the death...the ur right that THAT Jesus founded ur organization...but as far as my Jesus is the way,the truth and the life...he is not a know liar or deciever that made people quit jobs,sell belongings but disappointed...my Jesus never disappoint. Once is a mistake...two may be seen as learning process...but six is too much and chronic lying...1878,1914,1918,1925,1968,1975...abah Hear the regrets of some of ur members back then 2 Likes
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 10:05pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Religion? WORKS? These are not Christian biblical terms to me...what I know is Church and FAITH What did Jesus promise that u fulfilled?...ohhh...okay...he promised to come in 1878,1914,1925,1968,1975 respectively...he told u and u declared it to the world through ur WatchTower abi...ohhh....maybe that's the job u did in fulfilling the promise...bravo...u do am true true... 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by GoodIsGod: 10:07pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Guy I am tired of typing. Feeling sleepy already. I would have picked your points one by one and show you that all those things, it's not JW alone that does them. Other christians do them better than you guys. It is well. Stay blessed. 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 10:14pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
achorladey:On the right track bro... organization built on the foundation of propaganda of failed second coming of Christ...laying claim to the purified and clean church...is that not blasphemy on it own...I am sure Charles Taze Russell is having a rethink where he is now...may God have mercy on all of us...Amen 4 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:31pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
GoodIsGod: OK you wish other religions claiming Christians can do the same but can you mention one so that we can all look into the matter? Well that's exactly what i've been telling your friends here that they're agitating as if people must not talk about what is obvious. Please i hate deceit o, i'm not saying JWs are perfect humans but it's obvious that a perfect spirit King is working in the midst of imperfect humans to produce those things we're all seeing! 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:36pm On Jul 09, 2022 |
immaculatesense: FINE WORKS only seen among JWs? MaxInDHouse: I don't want useless arguments, produce a better performing group than what i presented about JWs! 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by johnw47: 2:19am On Jul 10, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: so called jw maxindhouse there are many better performing groups than so called jw's, who don't for one thing mock truth calling it a story but there is no group performing fearful paranoia better than your group, or performing lies better than your group, or performing unholy speech better than your group, etc.etc.etc. your group is better performing group at very many things: rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death. Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by johnw47: 3:11am On Jul 10, 2022 |
to so called jw's it's all about a better performing group, a better performing group, a better performing group, a better performing group, a better performing group --------- whenever maxindhouse cannot reply to truth, which is often, he says: do you know of a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses Christians know it's not all about a better performing group, which so called jw's are not, but it is all about Jesus Christ Joh 3:36 Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; < He is the One it is all about to so called jw's it's all about their group to Christians it's all about their Lord |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:53am On Jul 10, 2022 |
Òpùrọ́ ènìyàn á sọ wípé ẹlẹ́rìí òhun wa ní ọ̀run alákeji! Liars always avoid precise and direct approach in handling serious issues! Jesus said: "You will be WITNESSES of me throughout the earth" Act 1:8 Which means people throughout the earth need to IDENTIFY a group practicing exactly what Jesus taught {Matthew 5:13-16} and that doesn't mean they'll not have their individual flaws but everyone will see that these people as a group are producing the fruit Jesus talked about even though each of them are imperfect humans like all of us. Matthew 7:16-18 The inhabitants of Antioch observed the way and manner the first century disciples conducted themselves orderly as a well organized group that's how they earn that group name "CHRISTIANS" not in contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines yet claiming DENOMINATIONS, that would have confused anyone living back then to IDENTIFY Jesus' disciples! Act 11:26 If none of you can point to a group then know today that you're judging yourselves because each individual noticed uniqueness in a GROUP known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES that's why we joined them so neither Janosky, Cornelboy or MaxInDHouse is claiming to be holier than anyone but we are telling the whole world that we have found Jesus Christ through the uniqueness of his group just as he promised us saying "You will serve as evidence that i once walked this planet" Act 1:8 and as for different religions claiming denominations of Christianity today Jesus has this to say "by their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16-18} that's why each sect is headed by an overseer or group of overseers hence you people do have daddy or mummy GOs or Superintendents. These people are supposed to represent the branches attached to Jesus who is the tree {John 15:1,5} so each sect is under scrutiny of producing the fruitage of FAITH which is the aforementioned WORKS Jesus emphasized. So if your religion can't meet up with that production then know that such branches (overseers) are fruitless that's why Jesus said they will be cut off and burnt {John 15:6} and what do you think will happen to all the fruit attached to such a branch? Of course they're going down with it! Matthew 15:14 God's word warned that individual assessment void of grouping is tantamount to self-righteousness which can't take anyone to God's Kingdom {Isaiah 64:6} rather it's by working with Jesus' brothers that will help out. So we need to IDENTIFY them {Matthew 25:31-46} how? By the quality of their production! Matthew 7:16-18 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:11am On Jul 10, 2022 |
Is The Watchtower Organization A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture? YES! Judging by the QUALITY of their production!
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Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 6:47am On Jul 10, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:GOOD FAITH only seen among the body of Christ (CHURCH) I Hereby present to you a better performing group THE CHURCH. 1 Corinthians 1:13,29,31 [13]Has Christ been divided into factions? Was I, Paul, crucified for you? Were any of you baptized in the name of Paul? Of course not! [29]As a result, no one can ever boast in the presence of God. [31]Therefore, as the Scriptures say, “If you want to boast, boast only about the lord.” 1 Corinthians 3:4-7,11 [4]When one of you says, “I am a follower of Paul,” and another says, “I follow Apollos,” aren’t you acting just like people of the world? [5]After all, who is Apollos? Who is Paul? We are only God’s servants through whom you believed the Good News. Each of us did the work the Lord gave us. [6]I planted the seed in your hearts, and Apollos watered it, but it was God who made it grow. [7]It’s not important who does the planting, or who does the watering. What’s important is that God makes the seed grow. [11]For no one can lay any foundation other than the one we already have—Jesus Christ. |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 6:57am On Jul 10, 2022 |
GoodIsGod:Wonderful response...great perspective...they seem to an the same replica of the Pharisees. 2 Likes |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by immaculatesense(m): 7:05am On Jul 10, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Guy come here... Is this how they interpret scriptures to u in WatchTower JW? How does John 15:19 and John 17:14 translated to Jesus telling us not to join politics...read it again...abi na sleep eye u use type am? Let me quote it for u...quote ur own version too...now tell me how that place talks about politics. John 15:19 [19]The world would love you as one of its own if you belonged to it, but you are no longer part of the world. I chose you to come out of the world, so it hates you. John 17:14 [14]I have given them your word. And the world hates them because they do not belong to the world, just as I do not belong to the world. GO ON...AM WAITING OOO |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 8:47am On Jul 10, 2022 |
Hi Courz:Courz the Nairaland con man LYING again and again. Answer this question: Photo1,Does "Internationalbiblestudents.com OWN the United Kingdom based Charity "International Bible Student Association" in Photo 2? No ! IBSA Charity in England is NOT Internationalbiblestudent.com in America. Courz con man LYING on Nairaland. Is the "Church" in every signboard mean they all have the same pastor/leadership? No !!!!!. Just as 100.9 FM is NOT EXCLUSIVE to only one radio station in Nigeria,yet it doesn't mean that all 100.9 FM radio station have the same Owner. Courz con man very delusional and dubious. |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:02am On Jul 10, 2022 |
immaculatesense: You're a LIAR! Jesus confirmed that there will be false prophets and they will deceive many! So all these different sects with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines can't be for the same Jesus because he wanted all his friends globally to have the same line of thought {John 17:22} and that they must love their neighbours as themselves {Mark 12:31} and there must be love among themselves {John 13:34-35} you and i know that all these will make Jesus liar if you his disciples in different countries join the political elements of this world and start killing one another! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 9:05am On Jul 10, 2022 |
GoodIsGod:Acts 3:13 "The God of Abraham, and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers,has glorified His servant, Jesus" Oga, is Exodus 6:3 (KJV) in your Bible? GoodIsGod REJECTS & DENY the holy scriptures in public. SHAME ON YOU, enemies of the Gospel. |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Janosky: 9:08am On Jul 10, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:My Bro loud the volume more more. Na him join the mumu to reject Acts 3:13. 1 Like |
Re: "Is The Watchtower Organisation A Trustworthy Interpreter Of Scripture?" by Courz: 9:36am On Jul 10, 2022 |
Janosky: You are trying very hard to twist this issue in your Maggot infested brain so that it can work out to your dilusion. You are really telling yourself that the sky is black when it is Blue. Try harder. You are really revealing your mental illness and people are reading your comments. Keep trying to twist it but your twisting will not change who owns IBSA, the main purpose of IBSA, and The fact that they are Freemasons! Dum Dum! IBSA was founded in England. Can't you read? It was founded in England and has branches in different countries as shown in their website. IBSA is a corporation of Jehovah's witnesses Outside the US. It is clearly shown in the pics I posted but You've got Maggot infested brain and you seriously don't want what you are seeing to be true. So, you are trying to use Meaningless Mathematics to wriggle your way out of the truth. You're making a fool of yourself Janosky. You are a Freemason. Bow your head in Shame with your Maggot infested brain! I know that what you are typing is what you are really trying to use to convince yourself. You can't believe what you have just seen. So, you are trying to console yourself! IBSA is separate from JWs But You JWs own IBSA aka Bible Students because Watchtower is a Freemason Cult! You are all Freemasons! You are dedicating your life to a Freemason Cult disguised as a Christian one! You're a Freemason by association Janosky with your Maggot infested brain. IBSA are owned by you JWs although they celebrate Christmas, Birthdays and everything else JWs prohibit at the same time stick to the teachings of Russell. Watchtower gets to exhibit its Full Freemason membership through IBSA and at the same time can pretend to be a pseudo Christian Cult through JWs in order to get your Free labor, Money and Donations. Your Governing body are from IBSA So you guys are One no matter how you choose to look at it! Why do you think your Governing body are fascinated by Charles Taze Russell and communicate with him from the dead during their Coven meetings as revealed by Freemason JWs? IBSA love their Charles Taze Russell.
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