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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 6:53pm On Aug 14, 2022
rvp2018:
There are many - infact most of UDA are very young, educated and smart.

Our next women Rep's under 30s of age
Bomet,Meru,kirinyaga,Nandi and muranga .

UDA Cynthia Muge, 29 yrs, Women Rep Nandi County,
Linet Chepkorir Toto, 25 yrs, Women Rep Bomet
28-year-old Jane Njeri Maina has been elected as Kirinyaga Woman Representative
30yr old Betty Mana - Muranga county women rep

Meanwhile you're still getting a hard-on from a 57yr old woman. My mother is about 61yrs. She is my mother agemate

Congrats on electing youths!

Azimio doesn't care about age or gender; we go for brain & track record! You can be a woman or a youth but ignorant and obtuse of the task given.

So your point holds less water.

Before I forget: passaris is Old and "beautiful" , she's the people's choice. it doesn't matter whether she's 100yrs, you hate her, or you didn't expect her to win. I said the above to say this: swallow the pain(bitterness) in peace, my guy. Accept she won and get rid of these petty sentiments. cool

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 7:07pm On Aug 14, 2022
rvp2018:
We knew the winner within 24hrs. IEBC have 7 days to declare the result. Kenya is model democracy in Africa - and you're living in one party dictatorship where election are rigged without shame. Your opposition leader is in exile in Belgium.
this from the same guy that said there will be civil war if Raila wins grin cheesy grin walking contraindication you are cool

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 7:32pm On Aug 14, 2022
At this point I can safely say Kenya has a weak electoral system.

Ordinary election and it is taking you eternity to finish counting, which kinda yeye election bi dis one?
Are you guys having some calculation challenges or what? Even China won't use 7 days to finalize their election results.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 7:47pm On Aug 14, 2022
vankelvin:
At this point I can safely say Kenya has a weak electoral system.

Ordinary election and it is taking you eternity to finish counting, which kinda yeye election bi dis one?
Are you guys having some calculation challenges or what? Even China won't use 7 days to finalize their election results.
This is first time I'm seeing something like this ever.

Just when you thought you've seen it all.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:52pm On Aug 14, 2022
That still make it even best model. Civil war should occur if anyone commit coup on the people. That is why American have the right to hold fire-arms. American call it 2nd ammendent. Americans have the right to defend themselves from gov militia or fight it if there is legitimate cause - that is why some Trumpster stormed DC with guns. Our people it's 1st ammendment - you rig us - we kill you.
Why is kenya a model - unlike South Africa - that got democracy in 1994 - kenya has held election since 1963.
Kenya became 1st country in Africa to have sitting president election annualled.
Kenya is functioning democracy - that is envy of many in Africa.
jl115:
this from the same guy that said there will be civil war if Raila wins grin cheesy grin walking contraindication you are cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:55pm On Aug 14, 2022
You were trying to flog her as some sex object appeal - an old post menopausal women that can only impress 75yr old men like Raila. You were actually asking folks here to admire her beauty and virality. Your AZIMIO are crazy.
Shma2022:

Congrats on electing youths!

Azimio doesn't care about age or gender; we go for brain & track record! You can be a woman or a youth but ignorant and obtuse of the task given.

So your point holds less water.

Before I forget: passaris is Old and "beautiful" , she's the people's choice. it doesn't matter whether she's 100yrs, you hate her, or you didn't expect her to win. I said the above to say this: swallow the pain(bitterness) in peace, my guy. Accept she won and get rid of these petty sentiments. cool
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:57pm On Aug 14, 2022
This general election with six posts - and official declaration can only happen - when all forms have arrived in Nairobi - and this being a close election - everything has to be counter-checked. The difference is about 250K votes or 1.5%. Therefore it's not easy - even US takes time in such election.
vankelvin:
At this point I can safely say Kenya has a weak electoral system.

Ordinary election and it is taking you eternity to finish counting, which kinda yeye election bi dis one?
Are you guys having some calculation challenges or what? Even China won't use 7 days to finalize their election results.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by ProblemChild1: 8:02pm On Aug 14, 2022
vankelvin:
At this point I can safely say Kenya has a weak electoral system.

Ordinary election and it is taking you eternity to finish counting, which kinda yeye election bi dis one?
Are you guys having some calculation challenges or what? Even China won't use 7 days to finalize their election results.
In Nigeria after the the voting. That day that day they will announce the winner

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 8:31pm On Aug 14, 2022
rvp2018 post=115704167:
You were trying to flog her as some sex object appeal
- an old post menopausal women that can only impress 75yr old men like Raila. You were actually asking folks here to admire her beauty and virality. Your AZIMIO are crazy.

I have zero s*xual appeal on her. I posted her pics for old guys and youngings like @saddam & @Tayser who love thighs to see grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 8:38pm On Aug 14, 2022
vankelvin:
At this point I can safely say Kenya has a weak electoral system.

Ordinary election and it is taking you eternity to finish counting, which kinda yeye election bi dis one?
Are you guys having some calculation challenges or what? Even China won't use 7 days to finalize their election results.
stop being mean grin grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 8:38pm On Aug 14, 2022
GeneralDae:

This is first time I'm seeing something like this ever.

Just when you thought you've seen it all.
please allow them, else people may end up dying

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 8:41pm On Aug 14, 2022
rvp2018:
This general election with six posts - and official declaration can only happen - when all forms have arrived in Nairobi - and this being a close election - everything has to be counter-checked. The difference is about 250K votes or 1.5%. Therefore it's not easy - even US takes time in such election.
what happened to fax and party agent verifications as well as EC authentication of their seal, stamp and security codes on the forms?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 8:49pm On Aug 14, 2022
vankelvin:
At this point I can safely say Kenya has a weak electoral system.

Ordinary election and it is taking you eternity to finish counting, which kinda yeye election bi dis one?
Are you guys having some calculation challenges or what? Even China won't use 7 days to finalize their election results.
Hold on. Shut that banku mouth for a moment!

Elections were done on 9th. The same 9th, all the politburo, media stations, minions, and international media houses had the results.

What is the point here?

IEBC is trying to hold a ground for nego before an unpredictable nightmarish announcement takes place! They have 7days to verify and announce the results; that is something which can be done with due diligence and meticulously within a day.

FYI, this is a war between a very dangerous man and the deep state. Things have to be done carefully to avoid rendering the country into tatterdemalion( as result of violence)

Thus say, we have held all other elections within a day or two - and both were successful.

Don't be in a hurry to spew information out of ignorance.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:53pm On Aug 14, 2022
This zero trust society - the more manual the better. The DIGITAL FORMS came in within 24hours. What is happening is just comparing ORIGINAL forms with digital and copies. It's VERIFCATION process.

Kenya election have to be 1) simple 2) verifiable 3) free and 4) fair - we are now dealing with verifiability - meaning checking each form against digital copy sent immediately, copies each agent got, and against original. Then checking maths.

The difference so far btw what was sent the 1st night and now is not even 1,000 votes after 8-10 million. Meaning it's VERY accurate.

Just40:
what happened to fax and party agent verifications as well as EC authentication of their seal, stamp and security codes on the forms?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 9:28pm On Aug 14, 2022
GeneralDae:

This is first time I'm seeing something like this ever.

Just when you thought you've seen it all.


Echoke me saf grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 9:33pm On Aug 14, 2022
rvp2018:
This general election with six posts - and official declaration can only happen - when all forms have arrived in Nairobi - and this being a close election - everything has to be counter-checked. The difference is about 250K votes or 1.5%. Therefore it's not easy - even US takes time in such election.

The emboldened, Very necessary but 5 days is enough for your results to be ready?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 9:44pm On Aug 14, 2022
ProblemChild1:
In Nigeria after the the voting. That day that day they will announce the winner

The more you delay the more you give room for the losing party to change figures and create confusion.

In Ghana, our 2 main Political parties have their own collation centers at Districts, Regional and National level so 24-48 hours after election they would have gotten the results from all the voting centers across country. They know the final results even before our Electoral commission will come out to announce to the public.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 9:50pm On Aug 14, 2022
Just40:
stop being mean grin grin

I'm a peace lover

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 9:59pm On Aug 14, 2022
rvp2018:
This zero trust society - the more manual the better. The DIGITAL FORMS came in within 24hours. What is happening is just comparing ORIGINAL forms with digital and copies. It's VERIFCATION process.

Kenya election have to be 1) simple 2) verifiable 3) free and 4) fair - we are now dealing with verifiability - meaning checking each form against digital copy sent immediately, copies each agent got, and against original. Then checking maths.

The difference so far btw what was sent the 1st night and now is not even 1,000 votes after 8-10 million. Meaning it's VERY accurate.

That verification can be done within a day

Even hard copies verification shouldn't take more than 20 hours.

In a highly suspicious society like Kenya, you wouldn't want to hold on to results beyond 48 hours less you be accused of number paddling

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 10:00pm On Aug 14, 2022
Shma2022:

Hold on. Shut that banku mouth for a moment!

Elections were done on 9th. The same 9th, all the politburo, media stations, minions, and international media houses had the results.

What is the point here?

IEBC is trying to hold a ground for nego before an unpredictable nightmarish announcement takes place! They have 7days to verify and announce the results; that is something which can be done with due diligence and meticulously within a day.

FYI, this is a war between a very dangerous man and the deep state. Things have to be done carefully to avoid rendering the country into tatterdemalion( as result of violence)


Thus say, we have held all other elections within a day or two - and both were successful.

Don't be in a hurry to spew information out of ignorance.


The emboldened,
that's the only sensible thing in that long write up.

The 7 days is not only to help your tortoise electoral commission to collate figures but to also help defuse tension and prevent any post electoral violence.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 10:01pm On Aug 14, 2022
vankelvin:


I'm a peace lover

monalisa is crying in her grave grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 10:05pm On Aug 14, 2022
Just40:
monalisa is crying in her grave grin

grin cheesy
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:11pm On Aug 14, 2022
They are verified at polling station level. These 46,000 forms. Even if you have large team...this very intensive work. A day has 84,000 seconds.
Just40:
That verification can be done within a day

Even hard copies verification shouldn't take more than 20 hours.

In a highly suspicious society like Kenya, you wouldn't want to hold on to results beyond 48 hours less you be accused of number paddling
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 10:17pm On Aug 14, 2022
rvp2018:
They are verified at polling station level. These 46,000 forms. Even if you have large team...this very intensive work. A day has 84,000 seconds.

It seems Ruto is winning this election.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 10:23pm On Aug 14, 2022
ProblemChild1:
In Nigeria after the the voting. That day that day they will announce the winner

Nigeria is not a democracy.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 10:25pm On Aug 14, 2022
vankelvin:
At this point I can safely say Kenya has a weak electoral system.

Ordinary election and it is taking you eternity to finish counting, which kinda yeye election bi dis one?
Are you guys having some calculation challenges or what? Even China won't use 7 days to finalize their election results.

Why is everyone loosing their minds though? There are laws that govern the process. Just calm down and learn.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 10:29pm On Aug 14, 2022
Just40:
That verification can be done within a day

Even hard copies verification shouldn't take more than 20 hours.

In a highly suspicious society like Kenya, you wouldn't want to hold on to results beyond 48 hours less you be accused of number paddling

Please shush. undecided
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 5:59am On Aug 15, 2022
He already won when soft copy results were publicly exposed on 1st day. What we are doing is verifying his win and Raila loss. So far no major discrepancies.
vankelvin:


It seems Ruto is winning this election.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:11am On Aug 15, 2022
rvp2018:
That still make it even best model. Civil war should occur if anyone commit coup on the people. That is why American have the right to hold fire-arms. American call it 2nd ammendent. Americans have the right to defend themselves from gov militia or fight it if there is legitimate cause - that is why some Trumpster stormed DC with guns. Our people it's 1st ammendment - you rig us - we kill you.
Why is kenya a model - unlike South Africa - that got democracy in 1994 - kenya has held election since 1963.
Kenya became 1st country in Africa to have sitting president election annualled.
Kenya is functioning democracy - that is envy of many in Africa.
my bru, the 2nd amendment isn't there for people to start a civil wars.....i guarantee that Biden didn't win the 2020 election fairly and yet there is no civil war in the US.

You on the other hand just speculate that if Ruto lost then it must by rigging and thus there must be civil war.

Also SA had democratic elections before 94 as well.... It just didn't include certain people

Lastly of you look at African countries who are the most free and the most democratic then SA leads, only the likes of Mauritius and Botswana compete with SA in that regard
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 8:14am On Aug 15, 2022
rvp2022:
To get to leadership in a country like kenya you need to be corrupt (commercialized politics - in some countries it violence) and sometimes even murder people.
Mandela was trying Mahtma Gadhia non-violence but you meet with violence - and eventually he had to kill many of you people.
You locked him up - saying he was violent terrorist.
Great presidents like Kagame or old Museveni or Meles Zenawi killed people.
Ruto without money wont have a chance in kenya corrupt politics - and sometimes you murder a few people who want to murder you because it's high stake games here.

Now you cannot say because Meles Zenawi was corrupt or killed many he wasnt a great president.
Pinochet was corrupt but he made chile the only developed country - apart from Argentina.
Indonesia Suharto did the same.
China is dictatorship but they are going to first world.
Ghana military rule Rawling killed people but fixed Ghana.
Thomas Sankara killed people but fixed Burkina Faso.

Ruto will transform Kenya because he is brilliant, he is passionate, he is hardworking and he is effective leader.
He get stuff DONE.

Now you can moralize all day in a church but as leader - corruption/killing people - is part of TOR. That is why they are commanders in chiefs.

this is why Kenya will forever be backwards and behind SA

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 9:03am On Aug 15, 2022
Today, The president is announced.

Baba the 5th is the awaiting winner. The man from Sugoi is heading home.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Shma2022: 9:08am On Aug 15, 2022
Tension is mounting.

Meanwhile, in Eldoret, Kalenjins are waiting for grand disappointment. I don't know what they will do after Rao has been declared the winner. I hope No violence will happen.

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