MaxInDHouse:


Of course they exist but the spirits behind this names are demons (fallen angels) that's why none of them was able to go round the world to gather people from all races in their name like JEHOVAH the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob did! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3, 5 compare to Zechariah 8:23 and Act 15:14

So those gods surely exist but they never proved to be SUPREME like JEHOVAH the God of Israel who asked His own worshipers to drop physical weapons and used His Holy Spirit to go round the world and gather obedient mankind for His name! Zechariah 4:6

When you're ready to have a real discussion without pushing your meaningless JW peace narrative, then I'll take you serious.

I asked a simple yes or no question

kkins25:
You using religious fairy tales to justify an argument that should prove the existence of God outside religion. Surely, God must exist outside the lenses of prophets?

Prove the existence of God outside religion? What do you mean by that? What has existence or nonexistence to do with any of this?

It seems so many of you are simply just stuck on this God-exists-or-God-does-not-exist loop that the bullsheet has you mentally locked.

What rule mandates that the worship of a deity,any deity, should only be considered within the confines of what is religion?

MaxInDHouse:


Do you know what ineffectiveness truly means?
Well it's the direct opposite of effectiveness which connotes ability to do something without force, more than 8,000,000 people have come out from all races throughout the earth and they have all agreed to live by the same line of thought never to raise weapons against anyone again but continue to work with people who have agreed to make the world a better place {Isaiah 2:2-4} and here you called that ineffectiveness?
Wow! As in WOW!

Wow ... Isn't that a miracle??

0.1% of the population decided to make the world a better place, and the world still isn't a better place.

Effective indeed

Wilgrea7:

For starters, we don't have policemen telling common folk to stone certain people to death, or to kill people who don't believe in their version of police.

O please eh, reduce your stupidly. Police enforce law. They don't make laws everyone knows that.

Wilgrea7:

Secondly.. the existence of police and the possible existence of a yet to be proven God are not the same thing.

I did not say anything about proof of God here yet you impute it. This one is your conscience judging you.

Wilgrea7:

My point was that crimes are committed in the name of a non-existent sky daddy.

See how insane you are?

So these are crimes committed in the name of sky daddy

https://www.nairaland.com/7360058/yahoo-boy-say-he-go

https://www.nairaland.com/7359891/nigeria-very-bad-see-fine

https://www.nairaland.com/7359363/see-how-11-years-old

It is amazing how stupid you can be,

Dtruthspeaker:


O please eh, reduce your stupidly. Police enforce law. They don't make laws everyone knows that.



I did not say anything about proof of God here yet you impute it. This one is your conscience judging you.



See how insane you are?

So these are crimes committed in the name of sky daddy

https://www.nairaland.com/7360058/yahoo-boy-say-he-go

https://www.nairaland.com/7359891/nigeria-very-bad-see-fine

https://www.nairaland.com/7359363/see-how-11-years-old

It is amazing how stupid you can be,

Once again you're foaming like a mad dog trying to get off a leash. For once in your life try to have a civil discussion without devolving to insults.

I never said crime would cease to exist in the absence of a belief in God. I said it would reduce. Buy some glasses and read my statement again.

I made reference to the crimed committed in the name of a god.. i never denied the existence of other crimes committed

Stop grabbing straws

Snitch24:
can there be a god without a religion

There could be. I would go far as to say a god wouldn't even want religion. Well assuming said god is truly powerful and didn't rely on worship to supply its power.

Ever8090:
My question is..

who cares about your atheism?

About my atheism, I do. I care about not deceiving myself with fanciful tales of supernatural beings. I care about maintaining my sanity without thinking there are enemies in every shadow.

Wilgrea7:

When you're ready to have a real discussion without pushing your meaningless JW peace narrative, then I'll take you serious.
I asked a simple yes or no question

Don't worry my response isn't just to discuss with an atheist but to poke your bubble of deception!
The one and only true God said the evidence of His presence is His Witnesses {Isaiah 43:10-12} and His Son (Jesus Christ) emphasized that it's by considering the evidence of God's word that the presence of God could be justified on planet earth! Matthew 5:14-16

So it's not about convincing an atheist but giving open-minded people the opportunity to make use of their brains!

Wilgrea7:

Once again you're foaming like a mad dog trying to get off a leash. For once in your life try to have a civil discussion without devolving to insults.

From times past to world end everyone will call a person who they see putting food through his nostrils, mad, as you sometimes do.

Wilgrea7:

I never said crime would cease to exist in the absence of a belief in God. I said it would reduce. Buy some glasses and read my statement again.

Look for where you said this under here. Liargrea, the Goal Post changer

Wilgrea7:


Your logic is outstanding... And not in a good way.

You're trying to equate the belief in a God to the existence of police. I can't even begin to point out the number of things wrong with it.

For starters, we don't have policemen telling common folk to stone certain people to death, or to kill people who don't believe in their version of police.

Secondly.. the existence of police and the possible existence of a yet to be proven God are not the same thing.

My point was that crimes are committed in the name of a non-existent sky daddy. And the removal of belief in said sky daddy would reduce the occurrence of crimes related to it.

See yourself?

Wilgrea7:

I made reference to the crimed committed in the name of a god....

See how your posts shouts "hey you dey lie" you emphatically said

Wilgrea7:
...My point was that crimes are committed in the name of a non-existent sky daddy...

No allowances or no variation no doubt! Just a very plain statement which You, by yourself, with your own mouth and hand gave, without any force or duress

"crimes are committed in the name of a non-existent sky daddy"

What a disgrs6!

sonofthunder:
Where did the big bang come from?

From whatever existed before it which we of course don't know what that is. The nature of what preceded the big bang is currently inscrutable.

Wilgrea7:

Wow ... Isn't that a miracle??
0.1% of the population decided to make the world a better place, and the world still isn't a better place.
Effective indeed

Effectiveness is when a school of thought is able to fish out people from all nations and see to it that they're performing according to the line of thought laid by the school so as to benefit all adherents.
You can't force food down the throat of someone who decides not to eat can you?
But when your food is nourishing and nutritional the benefits will become obvious in the appearance of those eating it no matter where they are. Ọmọ that's what effectiveness truly means! Luke 7:35

MaxInDHouse:


Don't worry my response isn't just to discuss with an atheist but to poke your bubble of deception!

Mission failed

Dtruthspeaker:


From times past to world end everyone will call a person who they see putting food through his nostrils, mad, as you sometimes do.

Miserable attempt at defending your insults. I could insult you as well for the same reasons you insult . I choose to keep things civil because that's how fruitful discussions work

Look for where you said this under here. Liargrea, the Goal Post changer

Look before you leap

Wilgrea7:


Considering the fact that belief in a supreme being hasn't made humans coexist with each other peacefully, I don't think taking a supreme being out of the equation can do any more damage.. If anything, it'll reduce it

Do you real eyes that religion means religion/rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.So, even your posting here and your anti-Godness is a religion!Do you real eyes that religion means religion/rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.So, even your posting here and your anti-Godness is a religion!...

MaxInDHouse:

Effectiveness is when a school of thought is able to fish out people from all nations and see to it that they're performing according to the line of thought laid by the school so as to benefit all adherents.
You can't force food down the throat of someone who decides not to eat can you?
But when your food is nourishing and nutritional the benefits will become obvious in the appearance of those eating it no matter where they are. Ọmọ that's what effectiveness truly means! Luke 7:35

When you're done changing the dictionary meaning of the word, you let me know.

Effectiveness means how well something works. I'm not the one who wrote the dictionary.. so please don't carry out your grievances on me. It's not my fault you disagree with reality

uloaku4jokotade:
Do you real eyes that religion means religion/rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.So, even your posting here and your anti-Godness is a religion!Do you real eyes that religion means religion/rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n/a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.So, even your posting here and your anti-Godness is a religion!...

Religion comes from religare, which means re-bind, who is doing the binding and who are they binding?
No wonder religion is the opium of the poor.

MaxInDHouse:


Don't worry my response isn't just to discuss with an atheist but to poke your bubble of deception!
The one and only true God said the evidence of His presence is His Witnesses {Isaiah 43:10-12} and His Son (Jesus Christ) emphasized that it's by considering the evidence of God's word that the presence of God could be justified on planet earth! Matthew 5:14-16

So it's not about convincing an atheist but giving open-minded people the opportunity to make use of their brains!

Nothing is more funny than you thinking you're making an intelligent statement

A dog can reply with more intelligence than all your responses so far

Wilgrea7:

Mission failed

Millions are out there WORKING for the God of LOVE, JOY and PEACE. The absence of people who can't establish the same in any other gathering doesn't make what this faithful ones are doing a failure!

Wilgrea7:

When you're done changing the dictionary meaning of the word, you let me know.
Effectiveness means how well something works. I'm not the one who wrote the dictionary.. so please don't carry out your grievances on me. It's not my fault you disagree with reality

In a world where people of all schools of thought failed to find out why they are killing (not just people who are not of their faculty) their own members a group has emerged and erased the use of weapons in the hearts of millions throughout the world just because they used what was written in an old book to teach themselves. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3
YES! Effectiveness means how well something WORKS!

Davidf555:
A dog can reply with more intelligence than all your responses so far

That’s what indoctrination and brainwashing does.

I'm not a churchgoer, naaaaaaaaaaaaa i'm one of the disciples of the world's most wonderful counselor of all times.
So you will continue to get annoyed over my comments because you have nothing upstairs to prove me wrong! Isaiah 54:17

Davidf555:

Nothing is more funny than you thinking you're making an intelligent statement

Davidf555:
A dog can reply with more intelligence than all your responses so far

Davidf555:
Got any questions for atheists?
Bring it on
Ask what's on your mind

uhm...Mr atheist,pls why do humans exist?
when u r done with that one answer the next one: what is the benefit of arguing the existence/inexistence of God?
Just one more question: if everyone stop believing in God,how would the world be like?
oh! That wasn't the last question. Would u vote for an atheist as a national leader (president)?
MORE QUESTIONS
Before the arrival of the white missionaries, was there a single atheist in Africa?
Is atheism the solution to human problem?
if all theist were removed,would the world be peaceful?
How do u as an atheist understand the term "ETERNITY"?
Is there any thing/being (or just anything in it's whatever form) that has always exist & will never cease to exist? ...MORE QUESTIONS LOADING

To Davidf555
If every human were to wake up one day & realize that there's no God up there,what would the world be like? If there's no God up there,why have humans tie their lives to God & religion for ages & why has religion in its various forms survive for so long?
And please sir,don't blow grammars. Just make ur answers simple because i'm not a graduate like you guys. I also hope to share ur answers with my grandma because she's the brain behind all these questions. Please explain it to her understanding because she doesn't know a single word in English except "cup"

Templee333:
To Davidf555
If every human were to wake up one day & realize that there's no God up there,what would the world be like? If there's no God up there,why have humans tie their lives to God & religion for ages & why has religion in its various forms survive for so long?
And please sir,don't blow grammars. Just make ur answers simple because i'm not a graduate like you guys. I also hope to share ur answers with my grandma because she's the brain behind all these questions. Please explain it to her understanding because she doesn't know a single word in English except "cup"

Your grandma doesn’t know any word in English except cup “yet” she’s also the one asking all these questions?
Who is lying between you guys?

Templee333:

uhm...Mr atheist,pls why do humans exist?
when u r done with that one answer the next one: what is the benefit of arguing the existence/inexistence of God?
Just one more question: if everyone stop believing in God,how would the world be like?
oh! That wasn't the last question. Would u vote for an atheist as a national leader (president)?
MORE QUESTIONS
Before the arrival of the white missionaries, was there a single atheist in Africa?
Is atheism the solution to human problem?
if all theist were removed,would the world be peaceful?
How do u as an atheist understand the term "ETERNITY"?
Is there any thing/being (or just anything in it's whatever form) that has always exist & will never cease to exist? ...MORE QUESTIONS LOADING

These are basic questions.
And by the way, a Sango worshipper or a ogun worshipper are theist. Hitler was a theist.
And god is a title not a person, let your grandma understand that.
Do you know where “theist” comes from? Heard of theos and Olympian theos?

Templee333:

uhm...Mr atheist,pls why do humans exist?
when u r done with that one answer the next one: what is the benefit of arguing the existence/inexistence of God?
Just one more question: if everyone stop believing in God,how would the world be like?
oh! That wasn't the last question. Would u vote for an atheist as a national leader (president)?
MORE QUESTIONS
Before the arrival of the white missionaries, was there a single atheist in Africa?
Is atheism the solution to human problem?
if all theist were removed,would the world be peaceful?
How do u as an atheist understand the term "ETERNITY"?
Is there any thing/being (or just anything in it's whatever form) that has always exist & will never cease to exist? ...MORE QUESTIONS LOADING

That's 11 questions so far

Which I'll answer

Davidf555:

So you believe in religion there's absolutely peace. Quite interesting.
What you're bringing up is entirely another topic. Do i have to believe in the same thing as my neighbor before we can live peacefully? Or we must both believe in God before we live together in peace?
You claim in places there's no religion weapons replace the religion which is quite an interesting opinion. .
So I'm going to let you give me your reference fact checked by international organizations

hey dave max spoke explicitly,GOD is SOVEREIGN INDEED,you cant fathom God except by the holy spirit.

Templee333:
To Davidf555
If every human were to wake up one day & realize that there's no God up there,what would the world be like? If there's no God up there,why have humans tie their lives to God & religion for ages & why has religion in its various forms survive for so long?
And please sir,don't blow grammars. Just make ur answers simple because i'm not a graduate like you guys. I also hope to share ur answers with my grandma because she's the brain behind all these questions. Please explain it to her understanding because she doesn't know a single word in English except "cup"

Life exists because the earth supports life, this earth has been existing for a long period of time. Atheism is the believe in the fact that truly after this earth, there is no other world.
Atheism has been in existence for a very long time but was persecuted by religious people because sadly the society condems people with opposite views.
Religion started as a way of the primitive man to understand the world without having to bother investigating things example it's very easy for an average Nigerian to go to a pastor for healing prayers before he/she takes drugs because they feel it's easier to themselves like that.
Atheism isn't something that's a big deal, it's just like me telling a Christian " you believe in 1 god out of 10000 gods in existence and i choose to believe in none"

Davidf555:
That's 11 questions so far

eventhough it takes u months to answer them one by one,i shall be waiting.

AllenforGOD:

hey dave max spoke explicitly,GOD is SOVEREIGN INDEED,you cant fathom God except by the holy spirit.

God is not partial {Act 10:34} so Holy Spirit in this sense means the ability to realize that what you're seeing is not ordinary or just a coincidence but the handiworks of someone who is supreme! Romans 1:20
The fact that atheists chose to blur their senses to what is obvious doesn't nullifies the existence of God!

Atheism is a belief just as Christianity
Are all christians good? If no? Then all atheists can't be good, some can be bad and for me personally I'll vote for a person depending on the stance on right wing- left wing politics not because of beliefs
More harm have been done in the name of God than all the world wars combined. From the crusades in middle east to the terrorism here in nigeria because they believe that" their God would reward them for killing people"
People live in peace not because of religion but because of law, when people are more conscious of the religion than the law you'll get terrorism like Lebanon. However an atheist society is actually the most peaceful kind. All most peaceful countries in the world today have a very high atheist percentage and are very highly developed.
And about eternal life
Humans love to believe they're special, that's why you see people killing animals without blinking a eye, do they believe these animals go to heaven? Do you personally think the chicken you killed or the cockroach you stamped on would go to heaven? No you believe they'll die .
So what makes humans special in this world that they believe they're going to live on forever? It's greed