nihilistjnr:


Obi is the worst option in this scenario, because assuming he wins the presidential election, whilst labour party flops (as can be reasonably expected) at all other levels, what then?

What next?

How does a minority party President form a government? From what party does he appoint Ministers? How does he pass a budget through Senate? How does sponsor any bills effectively? Would you expect the President to focus more time on growing his party(which he would need to do) than fixing the country? How does he deal with opposition Governors?

How is he not a Lame Duck?

Itsrm:


So if I'm not supporting Obi, I must be supporting Tinubu. What kind of logic is this?

Donjazet2:


You keep dishing out surprisingly stupid arguments. Like, it's now a daily occurrence.

The 2 other candidates themselves barely are available for their own campaigns. They spend the most of their time in foreign countries. Relying on their foolish propagandist to spreading graphic designers up and down the internet while they chill.

Again, I'm not even talking of their children, I'm talking of the candidates, but in Obi, you want his entire family members to be involved, when that's the very thing we're campaigning against, the involvement of family in state politics. And furthermore, as a PDP boy you are, can you show me wike's children campaigning for him or atikus children campaigning for him.
Hypocritical lots.

raumdeuter:
Logical and factual arguments from GloriousGbola nihilistjnr izzou itsrm

If you can the best choice for you is to japa or find a way Nigeria can be paying you.

But if you are still in Nigeria and voting in the next election do not vote for any snake oil salesman

Vote Tinubu

Theflint1:
If this is your primary reason for not supporting Peter Obi's candidacy, I get it and respect it 100%, it's a very valid concern. That said, you work with the assumption that these politicians are binary, for most of them, APC and PDP are no more than political platforms.

Peter Obi winning the presidency will for sure influence the results of the senate/HOR elections which will come after. Also, there will definitely be decamping from the PDP especially, and probably the APC to LP given the amount of power and influence that the president of Nigeria wields. Whoever is on the right side of the presidency and on the right side early enough enjoys more influence. Peter Obi starting out as a minority will not be the first time we've had a president start out as a minority in the senate and if I remember correctly, Buhari started out as a minority in 2015.

Theflint1:
Is this the point where I ask who you're actually supporting and you say it's none of my business?

donstan18:

Ask the same person to drop video evidence of any Nigerian politician stealing money and watch him bring links from his village website to make a point.

Imagine asking you to show him where Okwute was stealing money. Clueless Okwute’s miscreants.

Itsrm:


I have said it before, I am not happy with any of the options before us. I will not be voting during the presidential election and I don't care who wins. As far as I'm concerned, they are all the same. The outcome after 4 or 8 years with any of them is more or less the same. That's where I stand.

Donjazet2:
Who wants to bet that in 2023, LP will have many new senators and House of reps members?

Do any of you sincerely think LP wouldn't win any assembly seat?

nihilistjnr:


Obi is the worst option in this scenario, because assuming he wins the presidential election, whilst labour party flops (as can be reasonably expected) at all other levels, what then?

What next?

How does a minority party President form a government? From what party does he appoint Ministers? How does he pass a budget through Senate? How does sponsor any bills effectively? Would you expect the President to focus more time on growing his party(which he would need to do) than fixing the country? How does he deal with opposition Governors?

How is he not a Lame Duck?

Itsrm:
Baba there is no or, na to leave and watch the country from afar

raumdeuter:


Some people dey wey the country dey favor, All those big houses in Island and exotic cars, na people dey buy am. And with every govt some people make it

raumdeuter:


Some people dey wey the country dey favor, All those big houses in Island and exotic cars, na people dey buy am. And with every govt some people make it

OasisX:
PMB Administration actually take a giant step to curtail oil theft and I believe recent discoveries are part of success of the project.

I guess we have heard of Deep Blue Project? Sophisticated tools, gadgets, equipment are procured and deployed for the project launched in 2021.

If you wanna know more, visit Google and grab some knowledge about it.

liveLongNprospa:
Look at all these Gen Zs...
These are the people that are not realistic.
These are the people that have not experienced Nigeria .

Did I miss anyone.. Eheeen these are the people that are not logical like the people on nairaland .

Make una nor make me laugh bwahaha

Sha look at what Obi causes sha
https://twitter.com/PrideOfAPeacock/status/1580180255666745344?s=19

GloriousGbola:
and that is the truth.

some people on this very platform have cracked remote work and are hammering - earning in dollars.

all these renewable energy guys are expanding into nigeria, people are hammering from there as well

same with google, fb, miscrosoft

we are told this country is hard - but i go to shoreline estate and every day there are more people building billion naira homes.

GloriousGbola:


and that is the truth.

some people on this very platform have cracked remote work and are hammering - earning in dollars.

all these renewable energy guys are expanding into nigeria, people are hammering from there as well

same with google, fb, miscrosoft

we are told this country is hard - but i go to shoreline estate and every day there are more people building billion naira homes.

GloriousGbola:


the problem with oil theft is not equipment per se though - it is human beings.

as an example DPR has a website and you are meant to do everything through it. all payments, registrations etc. but the registration and payments portal has been down for forever. so you have to pay someone to do your registration, as it can only be done locally.

that is just on example of how nigerian human beings fk the system

there are multiple checks and balances to counter subsidy fraud - but it is ultimately humans that are enabling it.

i also say this because buhari completely failed to deal with anyone in our adulterated fuel saga.
identifying the culprits could not have been hard - byt no one was sanctioned for an incident that literally brought the country to its knees

OasisX:


Spot on.... some people are buying cars of 200m value like toys. Buying houses worth 100m plus at Banana Island, Lekki corridors and so on.

You've to visit Nigeria again, lodge in lagos and try to feed your eyes with naija big boys lifestyles at Clubs on Island, especially DNA, The Library and the likes.

raumdeuter:


After 8yrs of Obi, Atiku Sowore Tinubu or even Obama, there will be people who made it from the govt, and there would be people who suffered from it

Itsrm:
That is because you are looking at just one thing..money

Obviously I can't afford to build those billion homes but I have enough to live comfortably and put my kids in one of the best schools here in PH.

I would like to say my motivation for leaving but may end up saying too much. The point sha is, it's not just about money.

raumdeuter:


One of my guys that I've tried in the past to convince to japa. in recent years got a top appointment with NNPC. I am sure that appointment na for life

All these companies you mentioned coming to Nigeria are coming to recruit Nigerians and give many people their breakthrough

With Japa in full force many jobs are open, companies are actually struggling to find people to fill those spots for qualified guys

If you are into Tech, and know your craft. If you are in Lagos, your chances of getting a job is very high now

Every night bars are full with people spending some peoples annual salary and trust me not all of them are doing illegal runs

Theflint1:
If this is your primary reason for not supporting Peter Obi's candidacy, I get it and respect it 100%, it's a very valid concern. That said, you work with the assumption that these politicians are binary, for most of them, APC and PDP are no more than political platforms.

Peter Obi winning the presidency will for sure influence the results of the senate/HOR elections which will come after. Also, there will definitely be decamping from the PDP especially, and probably the APC to LP given the amount of power and influence that the president of Nigeria wields. Whoever is on the right side of the presidency and on the right side early enough enjoys more influence. Peter Obi starting out as a minority will not be the first time we've had a president start out as a minority in the senate and if I remember correctly, Buhari started out as a minority in 2015.

raumdeuter:


I encourage japa a lot, But if you mention japa to some people they will spit on your face. Some the thought of living in a strange weather, with different color of people, some the cheap enjoyment, some the anyhowness in Nigeria

I recently met with a CEO from Nigeria who used to live in US before relocating back to Naija and he said he can never live in America full time again