chrisooblog:
Non of the political parties back then had started serious campaigning. It wasn't like Funsho Williams was a movement who had started to gain popularity. His assassination was totally unexpected because up until that time there was no reason anyone would have wanted him dead.

The PDP aspirants were the very first suspects the police picked up.

Politics of Lagos was very petty back then with Ogunleye who was a minister under OBJ then using FERMA to harass Lagos state government agencies those were what dominated political discuss then. I don't remember Williams saying anything negative about Tinubu then it was Obanikoro and Ogunleye who were tackling BAT.

PDP was the real killing machine especially under OBJ. The number of unresolved murders
From Barnabas Igwe in Anambra, to Dikibo, to Harry Marshall, to Bola Ige, to Funsho Williams

Ogunlewe used his FEZRMA people to deal with Tinubu then when they refused to do Lagos roads and blocked Tinubu from doing it, when Tinubu did it they refused to reimburse

chrisooblog:
Non of the political parties back then had started serious campaigning. It wasn't like Funsho Williams was a movement who had started to gain popularity. His assassination was totally unexpected because up until that time there was no reason anyone would have wanted him dead.

The PDP aspirants were the very first suspects the police picked up.

Politics of Lagos was very petty back then with Ogunleye who was a minister under OBJ then using FERMA to harass Lagos state government agencies those were what dominated political discuss then. I don't remember Williams saying anything negative about Tinubu then it was Obanikoro and Ogunleye who were tackling BAT.

Police under which governor?

donstan18:

Police under which governor?

Was Police under IGP that reported to OBJ. Not like state police exists in Nigeria. Governors cannot command police. I remember a policeman openly defying Sanwoolu orders in from of TV cameras

The reason I’ll agree to disagree on this Funsho and Bola getting killed by BAT who wanted to dominate and control SW is because there’s no concrete evidence that he did.

But lowkey, we all know the truth.

Federal government controls the police so it doesn't matter under whichever governor it was.

donstan18:

Police under which governor?

raumdeuter:


Was Police under IGP that reported to OBJ

Let me get this straight..

Lagos State police reports direct to the president?

chrisooblog:
Federal government controls the police so it doesn't matter under whichever governor it was.

It does matter a lot. It really does matter.

You think Rivers state police for example will skip Wike and go to Buhari for report?

GloriousGbola:


the DOJ [FBI, DEA, Us marshals, ATF, office of attonery general ] has a 97% conviction rate

hushpuppi, who had far more cash in his disposal, bragged that he would fight the case the DOJ had against him. he had enough money to hire the best lawyers. once they presented the case, the man caved

in this case we have a DOJ agent who is 'familiar' with how drug dealers launder money observed suspicious transactions in Tinubus bank accounts. they seize the money.

Tinubu hires a firm and sues the US government saying it is my money [where does that happen? how can you have liver to do that if your money is actually drug money?]

They reach a settlement and pay all but 460k back to him, and obtain a commitment from Tinubu that he will not sue the US government, or any of the agencies or individual agents in the future over this matter

that is really the hall mark of a guilty drug baron - who obtains a commitment that you do not sue them in future if not a person who knows he done fked up?

how does a guilty drug baron reach a settlement with the DOJ. i am sure you know what settlements are. we will not take this to court because someone will get embarassed.

note that if the money was actually drug related, or if they had evidence to prove it was, the case would have continued - this was the 1990s war on drugs

does that sound like how you convict a drug baron?

or does it sound like someone made a mistake and ran in half cocked

this is the kind of article we have come to expect from David hundeyin. looks good but when you go into it it falls apart

unless of course there is a different definition of criminal record, convict etal that i do not know of

Bros but why was 460k withheld?

Gboy1026:
Bros but why was 460k withheld?

I asked the same question for clarification but didn’t get an answer.

donstan18:


Are we arguing that Tinubu has criminal records or he’s a CONVICTED drug baron?

The agreement to forfeit $460k was for what?

raumdeuter:


PDP was the real killing machine especially under OBJ. The number of unresolved murders
From Barnabas Igwe in Anambra, to Dikibo, to Harry Marshall, to Bola Ige, to Funsho Williams

Ogunlewe used his FEZRMA people to deal with Tinubu then when they refused to do Lagos roads and blocked Tinubu from doing it, when Tinubu did it they refused to reimburse

there was a giant sign outside MazaMaza at the time - this road is the property of the federal government of Nigeria - Please bear with us

and belive me, Maza Maza was another fked road. you could spend an hour getting into festac at the time. same thing with leaving. that is why those of us with long memories will celebrate Tinubu's actions i Lagos. we remember where we were coming from.

It's not a low key thing it's just a clear case of giving a dog a bad name to hang it.

One thing I have noticed about Nigerians is that once we have made up our minds about someone especially the one we don't like no evidence on this planet will change your mind.

donstan18:
The reason I’ll agree to disagree on this Funsho and Bola getting killed by BAT who wanted to dominate and control SW is because there’s no concrete evidence that he did.

But lowkey, we all know the truth.

chrisooblog:
It's not a low key thing it's just a clear case of giving a dog a bad name to hang it.

One thing I have noticed about Nigerians is that once we have made up our minds about someone especially the one we don't like no evidence on this planet will change your mind.

What’s actually giving you the mind to defend a politician when it comes to political murder?

Gboy1026:
Bros but why was 460k withheld?

you will have to ask David hundeyin that question

but do you think if they tied that money to actual drug transactions, Bola Tinubu would not have seen jail time?

for me and this is just conjecture - it was probably a case of ok - yes this money is yours, but you did not follow the following rules when bringing it into the country, which is why we flagged it as drug money - so even though it is not drug money - there is a fine/penalty for not declaring money of Bleep amount so therefore . . .

but like i said - only Bola Tinubu and the Agent on the case can answer that question. we have to wonder why david hundeyin did not interview the agent, or maybe publish details of his interview with the agent.

GloriousGbola:


you will have to ask David hundeyin that question

but do you think if they tied that money to actual drug transactions, Bola Tinubu would not have seen jail time?

for me and this is just conjecture - it was probably a case of ok - yes this money is yours, but you did not follow the following rules when bringing it into the country, which is why we flagged it as drug money - so even though it is not drug money - there is a fine/penalty for not declaring money of Bleep amount so therefore . . .

but like i said - only Bola Tinubu and the Agent on the case can answer that question. we have to wonder why david hundeyin did not interview the agent, or maybe publish details of his interview with the agent.

donstan18:

Let me get this straight..

Lagos State police reports direct to the president?

Joseph Mbu has entered the chat. the lion of ubima shall be tamed

if you know you know.

donstan18:

no be david post half cooked article that you shared as incontrovertible evidence?

who will you ask before?

every thing i posted is directly from the article.

David hundeyin knows the game he is playing is all i will say.

donstan18:

What’s actually giving you the mind to defend a politician when it comes to political murder?

michele obama is actually a man. you can tell from her hands and shoulders . also if she was not a man, she would come out to challenge the rumours that she is a man. therefore the rumours that michelle obama is a man are truth

donstan18:

It does matter a lot. It really does matter.

You think Rivers state police for example will skip Wike and go to Buhari for report?

Yes they will..

Infact the IGP will mess with wike if he so chooses.
Leave police matter.

You can't compare PMB to OBJ. When it came to dealing with governors OBJ was a tyrant. Fayose, Dariye are just a few governors that can testify to OBJ's ruthlessness. Someone that will get police to barricade state assembly buildings so that 3-6 members will impeach a governor he doesn't like.

So because PMB is doing democrat with Wike you think he can't deal with him? What stops the IGP from changing police commissioner? How did weak GEJ show Ameachi that year? Was it not police?

Army that Ameachi used in 2019 wasn't Wike crying up and down?

PMB just respects governors that's all nothing stops him from using police to treat your f-up.

donstan18:

It does matter a lot. It really does matter.

You think Rivers state police for example will skip Wike and go to Buhari for report?

GloriousGbola:


no be david post half cooked article?

who will you ask before?

every thing i posted is directly from the article.

David hundeyin knows the game he is playing is all i will say.

How Tinubu’s supporters started discrediting David’s article all of a sudden is actually funny.

They endorsed Fluttewave article, loved Cornflakes for Jihad article, but immediately he bursted Tinubu, they started discrediting his articles.

We know the game players between David and Tinubu supporters, absolutely not David.

liveLongNprospa:


Yes they will..

Infact the IGP will mess with wike if he so chooses.
Leave police matter.

I rate Governors high in their states. Maybe it’s just me.

I’ve seen Wike challenge Federal Government concerning TAX stuff or so and they did nothing to him.

donstan18:

Tinubu had nothing to do with Funsho Williams death?

I mean the loved Yoruba Funsho Williams who about picking the Ticket to contest?

Didn't Funsho William's contested against Tinubu in 2003 and lost?

donstan18:

How Tinubu’s supporters started discrediting David’s article all of a sudden is actually funny.

They endorsed Fluttewave article, loved Cornflakes for Jihad article, but immediately he bursted Tinubu, they started discrediting his articles.

We know the game players between David and Tinubu supporters, absolutely not David.

the cornflakes for jihad article had major issues and other journos called him out on it.

i am sure you also read what he wrote about Abiola and drug pushing

maybe we should also take that as gospel truth?

So I should say he did commit murder when there's no remotely clear evidence he did?

So I'm a good citizen if I believe a politician did something wrong when evidence suggests otherwise?

donstan18:

What’s actually giving you the mind to defend a politician when it comes to political murder?

donstan18:

It does matter a lot. It really does matter.

You think Rivers state police for example will skip Wike and go to Buhari for report?

https://www.punchng.com/news/i-tamed-the-leopard-of-port-harcourt-mbu/

you forget how PEJ used Mbu to harass the hell out of Amaechi?

chrisooblog:
You can't compare PMB to OBJ. When it came to dealing with governors OBJ was a tyrant. Fayose, Dariye are just a few governors that can testify to OBJ's ruthlessness. Someone that will get police to barricade state assembly buildings so that 3-6 members will impeach a governor he doesn't like.

So because PMB is doing democrat with Wike you think he can't deal with him? What stops the IGP from changing police commissioner? How did weak GEJ show Ameachi that year? Was it not police?

Army that Ameachi used in 2019 wasn't Wike crying up and down?

PMB just respects governors that's all nothing stops him from using police to treat your f-up.

I understand you but you didn’t get my point, I mean... You mean police will skip reporting to the Governor on state government issue to report to the President?

State government issues?

We're talking police matter you're mentioning court

Is Presidency in charge of judiciary?

donstan18:

I rate Governors high in their states. Maybe it’s just me.

I’ve seen Wike challenge Federal Government concerning TAX stuff or so and they did nothing to him.

chrisooblog:
We're talking police matter you're mentioning court

Is Presidency in charge of judiciary?

But they’re in charge of State Government issues ba?

chrisooblog:
So I should say he did commit murder when there's no remotely clear evidence he did?

So I'm a good citizen if I believe a politician did something wrong when evidence suggests otherwise?

There’s no evidence, yea I know.

But I want to know why you’re so sure a politician didn’t kill.

GloriousGbola:


https://www.punchng.com/news/i-tamed-the-leopard-of-port-harcourt-mbu/

you forget how PEJ used Mbu to harass the hell out of Amaechi?

Seems y’all are misunderstanding me.

chrisooblog:
Tinubu to all intents and purposes wasn't involved in Funsho's matter he had already conquered Williams politically of what benefit would it be to kill him? It will be like saying Fashola would kill Agbaje when AD/AC/APC was already strong on ground. Dude don't tell me you're taking FFK seriously? Someone that called APC a supporter of APC party which the has shamelessly returned to?

How could BAT be involved in Bola Ige's assassination when the incident happened in Ibadan? What did he have to gain? Besides I know from a reputable source that BAT absolutely had no hand in Ige's death.

OBJ despised/despises Tinubu. If he had anything on Tinubu he would have used it. GEJ as weak as he was didn't he drag Asiwaju to code of conduct bureau.

Guy forget unless there is a smoking gun somewhere the accusations are just your regular political image tarnishing exercise.

It's obvious Donstan didn't even know SW politics of that time and the divide that Bola Ige is.

Bola Ige was supposed to be AD (Yoruba) candidate in 1999 before that Ibadan meeting that produced Olu Falae to go against OBJ PDP.

Infact there were some that said Bola Ige betrayed and that why he accepted to be OBJ attorney general.

For those that know, Bola Ige and Tinubu actually belong to the same camp during all those years. There was absolutely nothing that link Tinubu to Bola Ige death.

donstan18:

But they’re in charge of State Government issues ba?

the reason why there is agitation for state police is because nigerian police are a federal appendage
in the end they are completely outside the state govt chain of command

of course when you see madmen like yeye bellow, you know why this is an issue. imagine if he had control of police or military. it would have been a full bloodbath at obajana

any governor who has personal issues with the police commissioner will find this out very quickly

same with the army. the army does not answer to state government

which is why the lekki massacre cannot be place on LASG. all LASG can do is call for support

but it is someone in the military heiruchy who will shout kill the motherfkers!