izzou:


I am telling you it is not right.

You came to show me links of my point too.

Thank you very much.

So at least, you agree that dumping bodies in a river cannot be justified

Segedinho:

I gave you an instance with names regarding known criminals terrorizing my childhood residence..

They have come in an out of jail several times due to leakages.

They continue with theur mayhem wenever dey are freed until they were disgracefully abd rightly ended......

raumdeuter:


Ezzu corpses were killed by SARS and thats the reason for the Endsars protest

Who will police kill in Nigeria and not claim they are criminals, thats why they always say before you execute someone you have to take them through a legal process

Is the death right according to you

Theflint1:
I never said dumping bodies in rivers could be justified, my point was that there was no way those killings can be linked to Peter Obi. I know from first-hand experience that police officers do catch and kill, especially for hardened criminals. How many persons that have family members that were involved in kidnapping or robbery will go to the governor to complain that they can't find the body of their family member, some of them will even be happy to be rid of the family member.

CSP Nwafor was a junior police officer, he had the head of his area command to report to, and that area commander reported to the commissioner of police. If I'd fault Peter Obi, it's for not conducting LGA elections early enough...Azukuwu was one division, there's no way CSP Nwafor would have been steady killing indigenes of a particular community and it won't get to an LGA chairman who would make reports to a governor.

izzou:


So Segedinho found them guilty and labelled them criminals

No trail, no conviction

How did you do it bro? Juju?

Segedinho:

I asked you about d nature of people killed but u never replied.......

I only came to d conclusion that if it was a sporadic shooting or massacre,it would been louder

Segedinho:

i swear ...i only knew Endsars was orchestrated as a result of daily harassment never knew about Ezzu incidence..


The lapses in police politics is too much and one cannot in all honesty vouch for d outcome of captured criminals/kidnappers n co..


People are easily released to cos more "wahala"....

A repentant criminal once told us that he gives percentages to a known police in every succesful operation(but no killings)

Nobody send kpokpo 4 my yard dat year cos definitely with little raba ..u will be out.....




let me gist you one story..

One fulani young guy...should be 17 as at den directly opposite my room( face my i face you) told me he wants to travel...gave me an un-opened bournvita cos he was going to spend months.

3daya later,i saw his friend in his room ..i confronted him..and he told me wat happened...dis lil boy went to Rob..killed d person and took off with his jeep down to d North..he was traced and caught due to d tracker in d car.....

They brought d guy under 1 year he was released..

He only met and told me sorry that he has bleeped up.....he is still in d street till today cos we still chat a lil whenever i visits d street....

GloriousGbola:


The demonstrations at the tollgate can be described in the same way

Understand that the moment you defend extrajudicial killing of criminals, you are setting your self up for the same down the line.

izzou:


A fair opinion i can accept.

Remember that the beginning of this discussion was why Lagos was the focus of Police brutality, when it happened in other states too.

Everybody remembered Lekki. Nobody remembered Ezu river.

Not fair, in my opinion

raumdeuter:


Do you think everyone killed by police in Nigeria are criminals? If Yes then why the campaign against SARS

Do you believe that everyone in Ezzu river was guilty?

I am sure you have dealt with police and they have attempted to frame you before. If you dont sort early they will pin the murder of Abacha on you

Theflint1:
How can you seriously be comparing a massacre in Lekki that was streamed live and in 2020 to a discovery of bodies that happened in some backwater town in Anambra in 2013? Maybe you dey talk am for bants sha, but how many persons for Azukwu dey Twitter?

Host Lekki Twitter hangout and host Azukwu Twitter hangout make we see.

Way more persons were killed in Zaria by the Nigerian army, who's talking about it? The killings in Odi, Bayelsa, who dey talk about am?

raumdeuter:


Do you think everyone killed by police in Nigeria are criminals? If Yes then why the campaign against SARS

Do you believe that everyone in Ezzu river was guilty?

I am sure you have dealt with police and they have attempted to frame you before. If you dont sort early they will pin the murder of Abacha on you

izzou:


A fair opinion i can accept.

Remember that the beginning of this discussion was why Lagos was the focus of Police brutality, when it happened in other states too.

Everybody remembered Lekki. Nobody remembered Ezu river.

Not fair, in my opinion

izzou:


End Sars is about Police Brutality.

So, unlese Awkuzu is not police Brutality too,then we should not be having this conversation.

BlueRayDick:


I think u are mixing things up .

The protest against police brutality happened in most states of the federation. I saw videos of the protest in Osun , Oyo , Rivers etc back then .

In Lagos it happened at Ikeja , Lekki and other parts of the state . Why Lagos state owned turned brutal was the fact that Lagos state government felt it’s had enough by first introducing non state actors into the protest; when that failed the police officers went guns blazing and orile police station was burnt on the eve of the shootings in Lekki , police men were attacked in Mushin and they exchanged gun fire with touts , etc .

Sanwoolu declared a curfew that didn’t even allow people get to their homes before it was enforced that night, the protesters chose to remain at their location knowing fully well they won’t make it home before the curfew starts and the soldiers did their thing .

On another note I still wonder why all the celebrities who were at the venue earlier that day found their way home prior to the curfew and subsequent shootings ; only for the protesters and only Dj Switch on the receiving end . I mean one of those Psquare Guys was there that day earlier , AY the comedian and so on. I believe those guys had info and were just telling people from the comfort of their house to raise flag and sing national anthem. Na why I no dey follow people do Aluta even when I was a student . I no go allow them kill the only don of my family just laidat

Theflint1:
Nigerian's across the country are using EndSARS as their rallying point for police brutality for obvious reasons, and Agbadorians are using Azukwu SARS killing as their rallying point for police brutality. Both are trending and both are being discussed.

What of victims of extra-judicial killings in New Benin police division, why's no one trending that?

obainojazz:
SARS is horrible everywhere and Raumdeuter once said, Governors don’t control the police
Suddenly Obi should be blamed for Awkuzu SARS that was formed before him and continued after.

izzou:


We can't blame Sanwo-Olu for anything that happened that day

obainojazz:
SARS is horrible everywhere and Raumdeuter once said, Governors don’t control the police
Suddenly Obi should be blamed for Awkuzu SARS that was formed before him and continued after.

obainojazz:
SARS is horrible everywhere and Ramdeuter once said, Governors don’t control the police
Suddenly Obi should be blamed for Awkuzu SARS that was formed before him and continued after.

obainojazz:
SARS is horrible everywhere and Raumdeuter once said, Governors don’t control the police
Suddenly Obi should be blamed for Awkuzu SARS that was formed before him and continued after.

Theflint1:
That's the funniest thing in all of this, cause only last week I remember him asking for and referencing the video of a governor refusing to obey Sanwo-Olu as proof that governors don't control police in the state. E reach Peter Obi now it becomes what was his role in Azukwu SARS and Izzou on one hand dey absolve Sanwo Olu of EndSARS massacre when na im start dey complain say Azukwu SARS no dey trend...the hypocrisy

Well na election season, so agenda must agend, and it's understandable.

Theflint1:
That's the funniest thing in all of this, cause only last week I remember him asking for and referencing the video of a governor refusing to obey Sanwo-Olu as proof that governors don't control police in the state. E reach Peter Obi now it becomes what was his role in Azukwu SARS and Izzou on one hand dey absolve Sanwo Olu of EndSARS massacre when na im start dey complain say Azukwu SARS no dey trend...the hypocrisy

Well na election season, so agenda must agend, and it's understandable.

obainojazz:
SARS is horrible everywhere and Ramdeuter once said, Governors don’t control the police
Suddenly Obi should be blamed for Awkuzu SARS that was formed before him and continued after.

Elder0001:
I've been observing this thread for a while now and all I can say is this thread is filled with disgusting two faced individuals. Only Izzou, Gloriousgbola, and Ibime say things the way they are. If they see something that is right they'll say so, and if they see something that is wrong they'll also say it is wrong.

The rest, especially this Ramdeuter fellow are just something else. Ramdeuter's old posts on this forum are very disturbing to read.
One thing is certain, and that is Nigeria needs to be divided. The tribalism in this country is too much. I put it to y'all that if Nigeria doesn't get divided, or go back to the regional system of governance we were practicing during the 1st Republic, Nigeria would remain the same even in the next 100years.

Back to observation mode.